Re: [RBW] IRD Defiant cranksets

2011-04-17 Thread James Warren
Sweet. Thanks for the link. On Apr 17, 2011, at 10:09 PM, cyclotourist wrote: > I just tripped across these cranks on the interwebs, and don't know > much about them. They sure look beautiful though! Cold forged, > 110/74bcd, square taper... I'm not seeing any downside, although they > may no

[RBW] IRD Defiant cranksets

2011-04-17 Thread cyclotourist
I just tripped across these cranks on the interwebs, and don't know much about them. They sure look beautiful though! Cold forged, 110/74bcd, square taper... I'm not seeing any downside, although they may not work with widely spaced chain stays. No affilition, etc, just passing it on. They have

[RBW] Re: Todays ride

2011-04-17 Thread Kelly Sleeper
Nigel Smythe Big Box bag that they don't make anymore. I'm really liking the large saddle sack bag though. I'm using it on my bombadil.. ' http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/5614851327/in/photostream They both seem to work equaly well with differences... Kelly grrlyrida wrote: > What's fu

Re: [RBW] New Bleriot Owner; intro and some thoughts

2011-04-17 Thread James Warren
Ooh, nice desilencing of the "t". On Apr 17, 2011, at 8:50 PM, Ray Shine wrote: > > > I am also a proud and happy Blerioteer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@goog

[RBW] Re: Venturing Crew Monument Peak to Mission Peak Ride!

2011-04-17 Thread Benedikt
That looks like a ride to remember. On Apr 17, 5:11 pm, manueljohnacosta wrote: > For those that don't know I mentor a co-ed Boy Scout Troop at the > school that I work called Venturing Crew #999. One of my greatest > perks in my life is the ability to share both my love for biking and > my love

Re: [RBW] New Bleriot Owner; intro and some thoughts

2011-04-17 Thread Ray Shine
Welcome to the group, Steve. It's a good bunch of resourceful folks. I am also a proud and happy Blerioteer.  I purchased mine from another list member last year. (I buy a lot of things from members of this list.) I already had three  700c Riv's -- including the aforementioned canti-Romulus --

[RBW] Re: New Bleriot Owner; intro and some thoughts

2011-04-17 Thread grrlyrida
Where are the pics?!!! On Apr 17, 8:19 pm, cyclotourist wrote: > Hey there Steve, I sincerely hope your Bleriot is all you hoped for! > My ex-Bleriot was one of my favorite bikes.  I shouldn't have sold it, > but a fancy new Rivendell caught my eye... or so the story goes.  I > think Bleriots wer

[RBW] Re: Todays ride

2011-04-17 Thread grrlyrida
What's funny is that before I clicked on to your post, I said to myself, "Oh good Kelly posted. He always has something interesting to say with great pics." And as usual I was right. Thanks for posting Kelly. I always enjoy your ride commentary and pics. That's a huge bag. What brand is it? Ness

Re: [RBW] New Bleriot Owner; intro and some thoughts

2011-04-17 Thread cyclotourist
Hey there Steve, I sincerely hope your Bleriot is all you hoped for! My ex-Bleriot was one of my favorite bikes. I shouldn't have sold it, but a fancy new Rivendell caught my eye... or so the story goes. I think Bleriots were the best deal in Rivendell bikes for a long time. Prior to that it was

Re: [RBW] New Bleriot Owner; intro and some thoughts

2011-04-17 Thread Kelly Sleeper
Welcome to the group. Can't wait to see the bike. Kelly Oh don't worry about feathers.. I've ruffled a few and they haven't voided me yet. yet may be the key word... lol -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post t

[RBW] Todays ride

2011-04-17 Thread Kelly Sleeper
I know folks are tired of me talking about my biking experiance but all I can say anymore is wow. Nice 40ish mile ride today on road with paved trails, single track, mud, tree roots, rocks you name it.. smooth pavement .. head winds, tail winds, just a great time. I don't know how fast I wen

Re: [RBW] New Bleriot Owner; intro and some thoughts

2011-04-17 Thread CycloFiend
Thanks for sharing the story, Steve, and welcome to the bunch. As far as your feelings about the graphisc well, I think everyone on the list is known to have opinions. The caveat here is to respect others' points of view as well. Please feel free to link to photos* so we can enjoy it visual

Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread CycloFiend
on 4/17/11 11:25 AM, Jeremy Till at jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: > I'd ride one. I wonder if a 59 or a 63 would fit me better. Yeah, I'm actually a bit curious as to how the specific sizing on this bicycle will turn out. I've ridden one, and it was a pretty spritely little beast. http://rambli

[RBW] Re: Bike to Work Month

2011-04-17 Thread Benedikt
I'm already seeing A LOT more cyclists on the road. It's funny I always find bicycle lights laying in the road in May. Anyone wants to follow our team it's called "The Handlebarbarians." On Apr 16, 7:50 am, "Steve D." wrote: > Yep. I've been commuting to the office on my Atlantis in Bell Town >

[RBW] Re: Bike to Work Month

2011-04-17 Thread Benedikt
30 out of 120 people. That's really good. I'm lucky if I can get a team of 10 out of the 500-600 that I work with. Fenders ARE nice. On Apr 15, 11:29 pm, Brian Hanson wrote: > I'm in - probably captaining one of our company teams.  We usually get a > fourth of the folks in the office to ride in

[RBW] Re: New Bleriot Owner; intro and some thoughts

2011-04-17 Thread manueljohnacosta
Welcome to the bunch! As another budget Bleriot owner, I commend you on your find. We are a rare and interesting breed us riot riders. All other Bleriot owners I've know share the same story. Second owners or third owners from the original buyers. All coming from some road background.Lucky to even

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread charlie
That double top tube does serve a purpose and it really depends on how you load your bike and how heavy or light the rider is. I for one would prefer the double top tube because of aesthetics, novelty and function. True it doesn't fit most peoples idea of how a frame should look and it might appea

Re: [RBW] Follow up re WTB: 58 cm Rambouillet

2011-04-17 Thread CycloFiend
They are similar, but not exactly the same. Here's a chart with most of the differences: http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20040225124308/http://rivbike.com/html/bike s_romulus_16.html There are also some specific discussions on the Romulus page here - http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/romulus/ - Jim

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread zybariver
I've got to agree, the "undertube" on a roadbike is silly, and smacks of fashion over function. I was considering this frame, but color me gone. Greg On Apr 17, 7:13 am, Eric Daume wrote: > I haven't seen any mention of the Soma/Amos update on the Riv page: > > http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knot

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread Bill
What no one is talking about yet is how it will be built out, component-wise. Sure, some will go the full-Riv route - Nitto noodles, bar-end shifters, Sugino triple, B17 saddle, etc., at least those who read this list and buy it frame-only from Riv if it's sold that way. I can see many shops who

[RBW] New Bleriot Owner; intro and some thoughts

2011-04-17 Thread islaysteve
If I was to get carried away, I'd probably start to gush about how I never thought I'd be introducing myself as a new owner on the RBW Owners Bunch. But I'll try not to do that. I was doing quite a bit of road riding between '95 and '02, including some centuries and metrics. Quite a bit for me a

[RBW] trade: nitto technomic deluxe stem

2011-04-17 Thread omnigrid
anyone want to trade stems? I have a Nitto Technomic Deluxe in 80mm length / 26.0mm clamp. Excellent, new-ish condition. Looking for a 90mm or 100mm of the same stem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, s

[RBW] Re: Downhill Leg

2011-04-17 Thread EricP
Agree. It's good. Didn't sign up for the 30 days, although am trying to hold to it. Just to see. This can be a tough month for riding. Should be doable. As long as the forecasts are wrong and we don't get 9 inches of snow this week. (Yes, snow. In Minnesota. In April.) Eric Platt St. Paul,

[RBW] Re: Follow up re WTB: 58 cm Rambouillet

2011-04-17 Thread Minh
Hi Chris, Jason linked to the waybackmachine which is like an archive for old internet websites, that's what the riv site looked like back when this information was posted. On Apr 17, 6:14 pm, numbnuts wrote: > Now how is it that I have been all thru the Riv website, and > specifically looked fo

[RBW] Venturing Crew Monument Peak to Mission Peak Ride!

2011-04-17 Thread manueljohnacosta
For those that don't know I mentor a co-ed Boy Scout Troop at the school that I work called Venturing Crew #999. One of my greatest perks in my life is the ability to share both my love for biking and my love of teaching in one rolled up bunch. Last Friday crew #999 conquered two mountains by bike

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread Michael_S
not to beat a dead horse... but the double top tube road bike is just plain marketing schtick, nothing else. For me I would have bought a Hunquapillar if the 54 had the diagonal tube. I think that is a classic look and make sense for a camping/ rough stuff bike. ~Mike On Apr 17, 4:42 pm, cycloto

Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread cyclotourist
And for me, I lurv the double TT on the Bombadil and larger Hilsens, but don't like the diagnatube of the Hunqapillar. But either on a "road" bike seem overkill. Luckily we can vote with our wallets and get a Roadeo, or a Hilsen or an Atlantis :-) On 4/17/11, Bruce wrote: > OTOH, I love the loo

Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread Bruce
OTOH, I love the look of the diagatube and would ride it on a road bike any day. > >From: Philip Williamson >To: RBW Owners Bunch >Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 4:17 PM >Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS update > >I was disappointed by the undertube as well, especia

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread Frankwurst
Amen. I was looking forward to this bike and actually building a Road bike per say. I just can't do the double top tube thing. I don't need them or like the look, so I'm out. On Apr 17, 1:40 pm, rob markwardt wrote: > The double top tube is becoming a rivendell signature.  I prefer the > cream he

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread bfd
On Apr 17, 10:39 am, William wrote: > bfd > > I think you are taking your point a little far.  Grant/Rivendell is > not marketing the San Marcos at all, much less marketing it towards > the mainstream racing bike customer.  Merry Sales and Soma aren't even > 'marketing' the San Marcos, and it's

[RBW] Re: Follow up re WTB: 58 cm Rambouillet

2011-04-17 Thread numbnuts
Now how is it that I have been all thru the Riv website, and specifically looked for this info, and I didn't find this page? Am I right that these are archived elsewhere, and not referenced on Riv's site? Is there a secret handshake? All the best, Chris Redding, Ca. > They are similar, but not

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread Philip Williamson
I was disappointed by the undertube as well, especially on a bike identified as "road-only." Philip Philip Williamson www.biketinker.com On Apr 17, 10:47 am, Ron MH wrote: > "It's basically a roady frame, not a country bike, not a touring bike, > just a really nice and versatile road frame ki

Re: [RBW] Follow up re WTB: 58 cm Rambouillet

2011-04-17 Thread James Warren
That was the word directly from the source at the time the canti-Rom came out. It was the result of a miscommunication between Rivendell and Toyo, and Grant foresaw that the "mistake" would end up being a really nice frame, so he decided to follow through on the order, ending up with a frame th

Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2011-04-17 at 11:40 -0700, rob markwardt wrote: > The double top tube is becoming a rivendell signature. I prefer the > cream head tube. +1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-

Re: [RBW] Re: How are those winter projects coming?

2011-04-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2011-04-17 at 11:48 -0700, Minh wrote: > I'd be slow to damn all freewheels because of this. The ird ones have > a bad rep. And it's too bad it is still happening ihqve one and still > seeing these reports are making me nervous. No, there /used to be/ many absolutely wonderful freewheels.

Re: [RBW] Follow up re WTB: 58 cm Rambouillet

2011-04-17 Thread andrew hill
Just out of curiosity - is the canti-Rom the same as the regular-Rom except for cantis? On Apr 17, 2011, at 10:51 AM, Jason Hartman wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Michael Williams > wrote: > Hey Tim, I have a 59 Romulus frame for sale if you have any interest. Ive > read th

Re: [RBW] 11 for 9 stem trade

2011-04-17 Thread James Warren
Nathan, Yes. I have a 9 cm Technomic Deluxe. I never use it. I could use an 11 cm. -James Warren Southern California On Apr 17, 2011, at 1:10 PM, nathan spindel wrote: > I'd like to trade my 11cm/26.0 Technomic Deluxe for a 9cm/26.0cm Technomic or > Dynamic. Anyone interested? > > -nathan >

[RBW] 11 for 9 stem trade

2011-04-17 Thread nathan spindel
I'd like to trade my 11cm/26.0 Technomic Deluxe for a 9cm/26.0cm Technomic or Dynamic. Anyone interested? -nathan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To un

Re: [RBW] WTB: Nitto Technomic 8cm and/or Nitto Dirt Drop 10cm

2011-04-17 Thread Rene Sterental
I have both. Email me offline. Pretty much brand new as I only used them when trying to improve my bike fit. May have some marks from trying different heights. Rene Sent from my iPhone 4 On Apr 16, 2011, at 8:04 PM, Christian wrote: > Hi everyone > > I'm looking for one or both of the above. >

[RBW] Re: How are those winter projects coming?

2011-04-17 Thread Minh
I'd be slow to damn all freewheels because of this. The ird ones have a bad rep. And it's too bad it is still happening ihqve one and still seeing these reports are making me nervous. On Apr 16, 11:06 am, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Sat, 2011-04-16 at 07:29 -0700, Mike wrote: > > I picked up th

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread rob markwardt
The double top tube is becoming a rivendell signature. I prefer the cream head tube. On Apr 17, 11:10 am, cyclotourist wrote: > Nailed it. > > On 4/17/11, William wrote: > > > > > > > bfd > > > I think you are taking your point a little far.  Grant/Rivendell is > > not marketing the San Marcos

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread Jeremy Till
I'd ride one. I wonder if a 59 or a 63 would fit me better. Unfortunately, probably not in the cards for me financially anytime soon. Although maybe i can do a frame on layaway. On Apr 17, 7:13 am, Eric Daume wrote: > I haven't seen any mention of the Soma/Amos update on the Riv page: > > ht

Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread cyclotourist
Nailed it. On 4/17/11, William wrote: > bfd > > I think you are taking your point a little far. Grant/Rivendell is > not marketing the San Marcos at all, much less marketing it towards > the mainstream racing bike customer. Merry Sales and Soma aren't even > 'marketing' the San Marcos, and it's

Re: [RBW] Follow up re WTB: 58 cm Rambouillet

2011-04-17 Thread Jason Hartman
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Michael Williams < mkernanwilli...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Tim, I have a 59 Romulus frame for sale if you have any interest. Ive > read that its the same exact fram as the Ram, just different paint. > Thanks, -Mike > > They are similar, but not exactly the same.

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread Ron MH
"It's basically a roady frame, not a country bike, not a touring bike, just a really nice and versatile road frame kind of the way the Rambouillet was, and the Roadeo would be if it were a hair heavier and had rack mounts. A ROAD bike with clearance for tires up to 33mm with fenders, or 35mm withou

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread MichaelH
What baffles me about the second top tube on a road bike is what problem it is trying to solve? The Atlantis and bikes like the Co- Motion Americano are plenty strong enough to load up and take on an extended tour. Maybe on a very large size, like 67, a second top tube makes sense but it certainl

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread William
bfd I think you are taking your point a little far. Grant/Rivendell is not marketing the San Marcos at all, much less marketing it towards the mainstream racing bike customer. Merry Sales and Soma aren't even 'marketing' the San Marcos, and it's their bike. Grant 'specifically' said that those

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread charlie
I totally dig the double parallel top tubes especially the Sam Hillborne I saw recently. In fact I wish the new Simple one had that feature. I wonder if Waterford would make a Simple one in that configuration with somewhat beefier tubing. I'm not fond of the diagonal tubes of the Hunqa or Bomba but

[RBW] Re: What is that thing to the right of the fork crown?

2011-04-17 Thread Bill
Widely misunderstood? This sounds like just the ticket. Put me down for serial number 01. My Sam is a 60, so size it accordingly. Now I'm going to wait and watch for the big brown truck to show up with it. On Apr 15, 11:06 am, grant wrote: > It COULD be a nakkin ring, and with a Joe Bell p

[RBW] Re: fs: Nitto 7cm stem

2011-04-17 Thread Eric
SOLD! Thanks! On Apr 15, 11:43 pm, Eric wrote: > For sale is a one Nitto 7cm stem. 26.0 clamp. A little rough around > the edges but needs a new home. > > $15 shipped/PayPal'd from Chicago > > http://tinyurl.com/3bjhyal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou

Re: [RBW] WTB: Nitto Technomic 8cm and/or Nitto Dirt Drop 10cm

2011-04-17 Thread omnigrid
I have a 80mm technomic deluxe w/ 26.0mm clamp. excellent, new-ish condition. On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Christian wrote: > Hi everyone > > I'm looking for one or both of the above. > > Thanks > > Christian > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group

[RBW] Re: bent steerer - I think

2011-04-17 Thread Ron MH
Jim, thanks for validating my current feeling on the issue. I'm coming to the conclusion that it wouldn't make sense to add just "a touch" of rake to the Quickbeam's fork. The 'beam is a supreme handler as it was designed. Who am I to mess around with that? On Apr 16, 9:08 am, CycloFiend wrote:

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread bfd
On Apr 17, 9:09 am, newenglandbike wrote: > I guess there is no accounting for taste, because I have always dug > the second top-tube (I prefer the name 'innertube' to 'undertube', but > i digress) ever since the bombadil came out, although I agree it > probably works better on a mountain/all-pu

[RBW] Re: How are those winter projects coming?

2011-04-17 Thread stevep33
Winter projects are progressing...slowly, becoming spring projects The bikes and misc parts got cleaned out in a major way sold/ ebay'd or donated. Not the least of which were my lovely Rambouillet http://www.flickr.com/photos/27988383@N06/sets/72157623702627095/ and my Trek 610 fixie beater

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread newenglandbike
I guess there is no accounting for taste, because I have always dug the second top-tube (I prefer the name 'innertube' to 'undertube', but i digress) ever since the bombadil came out, although I agree it probably works better on a mountain/all-purpose bike. I was also drawn to the plain-gauge tub

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread bfd
On Apr 17, 8:01 am, Tim McNamara wrote: > Me, too.  The second top tube is a deal killer.  Sorry to be grousy but it's > a dumb idea except maybe for cargo bikes. > Agree. I can see 650b for smaller size, but the 700c bikes getting a second top tube is too much! I don't get Grant when he says:

Re: [RBW] AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread Tim McNamara
Me, too. The second top tube is a deal killer. Sorry to be grousy but it's a dumb idea except maybe for cargo bikes. On Apr 17, 2011, at 9:13 AM, Eric Daume wrote: > I haven't seen any mention of the Soma/Amos update on the Riv page: > > http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/349 > > I

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread William
Eric I shared your reaction to the 2TT on the San Marcos. A second top tube sounds very much unnecessary and out of place on a 59cm road bike that is sturdy enough for fenders but not racks. I'll keep saving for a Roadeo or a custom (or the next thing I can't live without). On Apr 17, 7:13 am,

[RBW] AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread Eric Daume
I haven't seen any mention of the Soma/Amos update on the Riv page: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/349 I was disappointed to hear this about the second top tube: *It is an "expanded" frame, meaning the top tube slopes up 6-degrees to assure good comfy highish handlebars even if you b

Re: [RBW] Re: Romulus geometry chart?

2011-04-17 Thread Tim Whalen
Thanks for the help with geometries and suggesting the Legolas! It was fun to research a Rivendell I had never paid attention to. This group is not only helpful but a pleasure. Seth, you ought to be Rivendell's VP for sales! Good riding, Tim On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Michael_S wrote: >