The double top tube is becoming a rivendell signature. I prefer the cream head tube.
On Apr 17, 11:10 am, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote: > Nailed it. > > On 4/17/11, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > bfd > > > I think you are taking your point a little far. Grant/Rivendell is > > not marketing the San Marcos at all, much less marketing it towards > > the mainstream racing bike customer. Merry Sales and Soma aren't even > > 'marketing' the San Marcos, and it's their bike. Grant 'specifically' > > said that those folks who did buy a $6000 road bike should have bought > > a bike like the San Marcos. Somebody with as much experience reading > > Grant's postings as you do know what Grant means by that. He means > > that folks who buy plastic 16lb bikes should be buying 20lb steel > > bikes. That's a lot different than saying "Hey, you bike shoppers! > > After you test ride that Cervelo and that Madone, come check out this > > undertube! That would be ridiculous, but that's not what Grant said, > > that's what you said. > > > Merry Sales paid Grant for a design. Grant supplied one. None of the > > prototype photos have the second TT, so I suspect Merry Sales/Soma > > made the decision to add it. There's no way Grant called Merry Sales > > and said "I've done the calculations and the bigger two sizes MUST > > have a 2TT!" I'd bet a dollar that it's a fashion-driven decision, > > and the tiny production run makes it sound like a loss-leader, which > > bums me out on several levels besides the lousy idea of a 2TT on a > > road bike. > > > good luck! > > > Me, I love the 2TT on my parallel Bombadil, and I'm glad my 56cm > > Hillborne doesn't have one. > > > On Apr 17, 9:53 am, bfd <bfd...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Apr 17, 9:09 am, newenglandbike <matthiasbe...@gmail.com> wrote:> I > >> guess there is no accounting for taste, because I have always dug > >> > the second top-tube (I prefer the name 'innertube' to 'undertube', but > >> > i digress) ever since the bombadil came out, although I agree it > >> > probably works better on a mountain/all-purpose bike. I was also > >> > drawn to the plain-gauge tubing. I still like the bombadil's > >> > concept, even though now it is changed, but the original parallel > >> > second tube is hard to beat in my book. > > >> I agree in part. There are many, like yourself, who like the double > >> top tube look. That's great and with only 15 framesets per size, it > >> should easily sell. However, Grant is not marketing to you or those > >> who like it. Instead, he specifically said the frame is aimed at "bike > >> guys who buy $6,000 carbon frames." That's ridiculous. People in the > >> market for $6K carbon bikes are not looking at either 650b or double > >> top tubes. The only way either of those things get popular with the > >> $6K carbon crowd is if someone in the Tour de Frances wins on one. Now > >> THAT will get people's attention and sell these kind of bikes. Of > >> course, its not going to happen.... > > >> > FWIW, I was in Harris Cyclery the yesterday, and they have a 58cm > >> > Hunqapillar built-up in the show room. It has the gray/red paint > >> > job. All I can say is, pictures don't do that bike justice. > > >> I haven't seen one of those yet and I live in San Francisco! I'm sure > >> there's a few around as I do see alot of Riv bikes. Good Luck! > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > Cheers, > David > Redlands, CA > > *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would > probably benefit more from > improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.