On Apr 17, 10:39 am, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> bfd
>
> I think you are taking your point a little far.  Grant/Rivendell is
> not marketing the San Marcos at all, much less marketing it towards
> the mainstream racing bike customer.  Merry Sales and Soma aren't even
> 'marketing' the San Marcos, and it's their bike.  Grant 'specifically'
> said that those folks who did buy a $6000 road bike should have bought
> a bike like the San Marcos.  Somebody with as much experience reading
> Grant's postings as you do know what Grant means by that.  He means
> that folks who buy plastic 16lb bikes should be buying 20lb steel
> bikes.  That's a lot different than saying "Hey, you bike shoppers!
> After you test ride that Cervelo and that Madone, come check out this
> undertube!  That would be ridiculous, but that's not what Grant said,
> that's what you said.
>
If Grant said it the way you did - "folks who buy plastic 16lb bikes
should be buying 20lb steel bikes" - I would agree. However, he
didn't. Further, I seriously doubt the new Soma is going to weigh in
at 20lb. Let's face it, guys who buy this frameset (which probably
weighs in at 4+ lbs for the frame; 1.5+lbs for the fork), are not
going to throw on light parts like Sram Red, Campy SR 11 or DA 10.

If you're paranoid about riding carbon, don't. However, I do think its
ridiculous that Grant is making statements that guys on $6K carbon
bikes should be looking at this one.


> Merry Sales paid Grant for a design.  Grant supplied one.  None of the
> prototype photos have the second TT, so I suspect Merry Sales/Soma
> made the decision to add it.  There's no way Grant called Merry Sales
> and said "I've done the calculations and the bigger two sizes MUST
> have a 2TT!"  I'd bet a dollar that it's a fashion-driven decision,
> and the tiny production run makes it sound like a loss-leader, which
> bums me out on several levels besides the lousy idea of a 2TT on a
> road bike.
>
Since I'm not involved in the conversations between Grant and Jim
Porter of Merry Sales, I can't and won't speculate as to who said
what.

> good luck!
>
> Me, I love the 2TT on my parallel Bombadil, and I'm glad my 56cm
> Hillborne doesn't have one.
>
Me, I ride a CARBON calfee with a gulp, CARBON FORK (that easily has
25K miles on it) and a steel taylor cross bike and both don't have
redundant top tubes. Good Luck to you!

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