I actually much prefer a cable hanger from the seatpost bolt (The WF
Sams have a brazed on cable stop). However, the cable hanger included
with my Sam didn't really fit, so I got the longer Surly with built in
barrel adjuster. Very nice, though the new Nitto cable hanger Riv
sells looks even nicer
Most excellent priorities!!!
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:14 PM, RoadieRyan wrote:
> Chapeau Brian and Ryan on the snow commute! I bailed on the commute
> entirely and worked from home today and based on the traffic reports I
> was hearing alot of car and bus commuters wish they would have had
>
Chapeau Brian and Ryan on the snow commute! I bailed on the commute
entirely and worked from home today and based on the traffic reports I
was hearing alot of car and bus commuters wish they would have had
your commute. Hope you get there and back safe and sound tomorrow, it
was pretty icy in spo
you can use those little rubber donuts to keep the cable away from the
frame.
Glad you are haapy with the new Hillborne. That was my 1st too. I've
since sold it and have a green Rambuillet. I was very happy with the
fit and ride of the Sam, not as much with the expanded top tube
"look". I do miss t
Don't worry! :-)
Although Jagwire has a nice cable kit with a sheath for the exposed cable.
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Minh wrote:
> thanks guys, wierd duh moment for me tonite, for some reason it never
> registered to me that i could run side-pulls or canti's on this. I
> stared at the
thanks guys, wierd duh moment for me tonite, for some reason it never
registered to me that i could run side-pulls or canti's on this. I
stared at the frame tonite for a few minutes wondering why grant built
a canti bike without the cable stop in the rear before i realized that
i could use side-pu
I'd not worry about trying put a disc brake on the bike. They stop just fine
with either a canti or liniar brake.
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:24 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
> Those orange Sams are a pretty nice gateway drug...
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 7:52 PM, rcnute wrote:
>
>> Nice to score th
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 19:56, doug peterson wrote:
> James Black had a silver Tubus Fly on his Nishiki at our last So Cal
> Riv ride. I'm thinking that rack would look way cool on the mini-
> lantis.
It's a great rack, but watch the tire clearance if you want to go with
fatties and fenders - mi
I have two of the so called men's Ti O2 as my go fast saddle
inventory. I know what you mean about reluctance to share your
secrets.
On Nov 22, 8:54 pm, Mojo wrote:
> I have found the long-discontinued Avocet O2 women's saddle works
> great for my offroad bike. It has a flat back and a mid-profi
I have found the long-discontinued Avocet O2 women's saddle works
great for my offroad bike. It has a flat back and a mid-profile dip
like the B17. It is a bit wider and shorter than the B17 but works
well for my butt. For reference, I am 6ft, 195lbs, 34 inch waisted
pants.
I hesitated to mention
Now here's a testament to the bike commute. I just talked with a co-worker
who left before me to take the bus (faster than cars in weather like this),
and she just got home 5 minutes ago. Granted she went 25 miles to my 10,
but 5 hours vs. 1 hour. Yikes...
Brian (happy to be a biker) Hanson
On
I've tried a couple of WTB saddles (Vigo and Pure V), and while
they're OK, neither completely got rid of my soft tissue discomfort.
Two that do work for me are a Specialized Alias on my go-fast, and the
wider Terry Liberator Y "Gelissimo". For a B17 replacement, I'd
recommend the Terry. its gel
Only made it three blocks up to the corner store tonight...too cold to
enjoy going much further (no snide comments from the cold weather list
members...I moved here from Havre, MT where it's currently a balmy
-2!). My winter bike is a RockCombo with fat 26" wheels and 700c
fenders. Lots of cleara
That is actually very sensible of you to recommend.
Should have thought of that myself.Thank You..
Will
On Nov 22, 8:14 pm, William wrote:
> I'd strongly recommend getting a standard stem with a ton of
> adjustability until you have you pain situation cleared up and only
> after that is dia
I was web crawling on the topic of ultra-compact double cranksets last
night and found this post from list member benzzoy last March:
"I don't particularly like the look of the Davinci or the TA Carmina
cranks.
I do love Campagnolo's last generation Record/Chorus triples, that
were unfortunately
Those orange Sams are a pretty nice gateway drug...
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 7:52 PM, rcnute wrote:
> Nice to score the orange! Soon you'll ride it so much you'll forget
> about the paint. I vote blue bar tape.
>
> Ryan
>
> On Nov 22, 1:51 pm, Minh wrote:
> > First i want to say thanks to ever
I'd strongly recommend getting a standard stem with a ton of
adjustability until you have you pain situation cleared up and only
after that is dialed then invest the big $$$ in a stem that has the
look you want. There are few things more frustrating than taking a
wild guess on a custom stem, then
how about a salsa sul quill. price is decent...and you could have it
powdered the color of your choice.
thought they were being manufactured again, but could be wrong about
that.
I'd bet one of the most cost effective customs would come from Doug
Curtis at Curtlo.
On Nov 22, 7:36 pm, CycloFiend
It must have been the size that kept it from selling. My wife is
5'-2" but has short legs. Even with the tiny tires she doesn't have a
lot of clearance. Next to my 58 her bike looks like a toy. OTH,
it'll be a heck of a lot easier to pack up & ship for a tour!
James Black had a silver Tubus Fl
Nice to score the orange! Soon you'll ride it so much you'll forget
about the paint. I vote blue bar tape.
Ryan
On Nov 22, 1:51 pm, Minh wrote:
> First i want to say thanks to everyone on this group, i've been a Riv
> member for a long time but away for the last few years. I recently
> looked
I had seven miles each way. Funnest commute ever.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30684...@n08/sets/72157625324703389/
Ryan
On Nov 22, 5:33 pm, Brian Hanson wrote:
> I had to ride in today what with the snow and everything - I don't get these
> chances much since I moved here from MN. I didn't ta
As others have mentioned, Rick Hunter.
Tony Pereira makes beautiful stems, but I don't know what his backlog is
like. Ditto Bruce Gordon, though he does list both stock and custom sizes
on his website.
Old mtb stems may be a different diameter at the bars - you'd want to
confirm that.
- J
-
Good for you, Brian!
It's fun to ride in the snow. I went down hard on black ice a couple
of winters ago, so decided to invest in Schwalbe Marathon Winters -
the carbide studs work great. They come in 26x1..75, so they'll fit
your Miyata. Don't need them too often around here, but when you need
th
I almost bought this bike just cause the price seemed soo right. It
would have been a bit small for my wife, I would have just flipped the
frame and bought a correct sized one. Glad I held off cause seems like
it worked out perfect for you.
It was crazy that it was on CL for so long at that crazy
Doug, congrats on the good deal, i saw this on CL for months and
figured it wasn't moving due to the size, glad someone got it who
could appreciate it.
On Nov 21, 12:15 pm, doug peterson wrote:
> Rob:
>
> My not so li'l bro likes heavy duty everything. I pointed him to the
> Hunq & he said "that
First i want to say thanks to everyone on this group, i've been a Riv
member for a long time but away for the last few years. I recently
looked at my stable of bikes and realized i didn't actually want to
ride any of them for a long period of time so i decided to solve
that. A new go-fast bike wa
I use an app called AutoStitch. I merges photos you have taken with the
camera--it will even work with several rows to create a taller image.
--Eric N
On Nov 22, 2010, at 4:55 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 16:41 -0800, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Does it provide panorama assi
The Ideal stem would be a Lugged quill Nitto stem with rise at least
80mm.
I will check out Rick Hunter. thanks for the tip folks.
Will
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Second Rick Hunter. I don't know of any other custom builders that
will do a quill stem... and only a stem without a frame.
The Nitto Dirt Drop looks great in my opinion. I like it better than
a Techno Deluxe. Give it a try, you can always sell it on the forum!
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Very nice!
Are you using Pano? I've been very pleased with that app.
Rob in Seattle, where it's 23º and snowing.
On Nov 22, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Eric Norris wrote:
> Today's ride on the Quickbeam:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157625449202494/
>
>
> --Eric N
>
> --
> Y
Call Rick Hunter~ Huntercycles.com
He can build anything and is a great guy.
- Frank
On Nov 22, 9:51 pm, williwoods wrote:
> Hey guys. So I am having a bit of a dilema. Been riding my Bullmoose
> bars all week and my hands just arent agreeing with these.
>
> I am going to run either Porteur bars
Hey guys. So I am having a bit of a dilema. Been riding my Bullmoose
bars all week and my hands just arent agreeing with these.
I am going to run either Porteur bars or Albatross or something
similar with not a whole lot of rise not drop bars.
There arent a whole lot of options these days as far
BAs in that snow? I salute you. ("Sa-lute" ala Hee Haw)
Yeah, one learns to kick the fenders the dislodge snow/slush build
up. Sometimes a quick wheelie will work too. Or just picking up the
bike and slamming it back down at convenient stops.
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
On Nov 22, 7:33 pm, Brian
WTB Laser V works for me. Been riding using that on the Fargo off and
on for the past couple of months.
Otherwise, I'll be the lone voice and advocate Terry saddles. Have a
couple of them and rotate them in and out.
Have to admit to a love/hate relationship this year with Brooks
saddles. Love
I had to ride in today what with the snow and everything - I don't get these
chances much since I moved here from MN. I didn't take the Hilsen (not snow
qualified), but did OK on the Riv'ified Miyata. The Big Apples did their
job, but it was getting sketchy on the way home with the temps around 2
Next time through you should stick some Resurrectio stickers on that
boat.
On Nov 22, 4:41 pm, Eric Norris wrote:
> Thanks. The iPhone can take very nice photos when the conditions are right.
> And being in a scenery-rich environment doesn't hurt!
>
> --Eric N
>
> On Nov 22, 2010, at 4:23 PM, St
Eric,
Very nice, did the Station to Lighthouse last week to get myself ready
for the 200k, still not an easy ride even with light winds.
Steve, wish you were out hern to enjoy this ride, hard for sure but
nice.
Ron
On Nov 22, 4:12 pm, Eric Norris wrote:
> Today's ride on the Quickbeam:
>
> htt
On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 16:41 -0800, Eric Norris wrote:
Does it provide panorama assist? And what stitching software did you
use?
I'm a big panorama fan, but generally I use it more to provide a field
of view about like what I see with my eyes than a 180 degree wide view.
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Thanks. The iPhone can take very nice photos when the conditions are right. And
being in a scenery-rich environment doesn't hurt!
--Eric N
On Nov 22, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 16:12 -0800, Eric Norris wrote:
>> Today's ride on the Quickbeam:
>>
>> http:/
On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 16:12 -0800, Eric Norris wrote:
> Today's ride on the Quickbeam:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157625449202494/
Nice panorama! I'm impressed that you took that with a phone.
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It's a very nice bag, well made and the right size. I decided I'd
rather have black bags and not use a decaleur. The Berthoud I ordered
has a full leather bottom so I was going to use some clips on the rack
with knurled nuts on the inside of the bag ot attach it. Something I
saw on one of JP Weigle
Grant says "I used Splats during the later rains of last year, and never had
flappage"
I says "no flappage, I am in on the Splats!"
Dave 'I love the word flappage' Nawrocki
Fort Collins, CO
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Mike,
whay not put it on the CoHo? Just wondering, the bag looks great, but
is there something about the design that you do not prefer and like in
other bags?
Rob
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On Nov 22, 8:17 am, Michael_S wrote:
> So far no one has contacted me so if I don't hear today I'll th
Another vote from me for WTB, it's the closest i've found to the
Brooks for me.
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I think GP wrote that he'd had a friend or acquaintance by that name,
with that spelling. Maybe it was to that person.
Roger
(first time poster)
On Nov 21, 8:41 pm, James Warren wrote:
> If you have Rivendell Reader #33 from Fall of 2004, take a look at Page 3,
> the last two lines of text befo
The Lierre that is replacing the Ourson looks pretty great, too. So
many snazzy 650B tires to ride!
On Nov 22, 1:03 pm, rcnute wrote:
> I am so getting a pair. Or two.
>
> Ryan
>
> On Nov 22, 9:32 am, cyclotourist wrote:
>
> > For those of you in the 650B camp or are B-curious, Jan/Compass is
I am so getting a pair. Or two.
Ryan
On Nov 22, 9:32 am, cyclotourist wrote:
> For those of you in the 650B camp or are B-curious, Jan/Compass is closing
> out the Ourson tires. Basically Col de la Vie tires with a lighter/folding
> casing. Sounds like a great tire for mixed terrain rides!
>
I can't believe nobody has suggested just cutting out a hole in the
brooks saddle. Isn't that what Grant would say and did say in one of
those recent readers? a knife, courage and a hole my friend!
james
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Dude, that Bilenky is just, dude.
On Nov 22, 9:58 am, Seth Vidal wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:55 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
> > That's what I presumed on looking at it. Cool that you have one! I wonder
> > if a modern builder (Bilenky??) could correct for that without having to
> > over bu
Cute. Well done. I posted a smartaleck comment to the finished
product. I'm going to be doing some bike storage infrastructure
projects this winter as well, but it all looks like it will involve
pulleys and hooks in the rafters of the garage.
On Nov 22, 10:03 am, Lee wrote:
> The rains arrived
The splats are probably a better deal if you have twins.
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The most comfortable non-Brooks (style saddle) I own is a Specialized
Romin. It's one of the few cut-out saddles I've tried which actually
seem to succeed in relieving pressure. Also, the Romin comes in
various widths, and if you go to a Specialized dealer you can ask to
be measured on the ass-o-me
I have never had quite that dramatic and experience from the stand to
the road under load, but guessing, trial and error have both been a
big part of my learning about bikes. The net is a wonderful thing.
On Nov 22, 10:28 am, Juhani wrote:
> It seems like the shifter is working now! :)
>
> Almost
...in case you missed it.
http://www.rivbike.com/images/products/full//3859/splatmilo505_3.jpg
or scroll right on:
http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/musa-splats-pair/60-053
Classic, Keven! But what's Milo going to say to you about this in a dozen
years?!? ;-)
cheers,
Andrew
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Another suggestion for WTB saddles. I just put a Speed V (their
cheapest saddle) from a town bike i sold on my road bike and
discovered that it's quite comfortable for long rides. No pressure on
the nether regions.
I've never ridden a Brooks for anything more than a hundred yards or
so I can't c
Have to admit, I'd not seen the BE shifters all the way out w/ the
brakes before; I like it, though. Might try that on my next bike.
On the Ram, what I did was put the first part of the housing from the
BE shifter under the tape, right to where it starts to arc up to the
brake levers; I didn't w
on 11/21/10 4:01 PM, Kelly at tkslee...@gmail.com wrote:
> I started a thread awhile back asking or stating I thought I would
> lose 2 or 3 miles per hour. I started another thread on Bicycle
> Lifestyle "How important is speed" or some such garbage. Then as
> reading the Simpleone thread here i
Well, thanks all for the responses. My conclusion is this: The
SimpleTwo is a reasonable notion. It definitely goes on the list of
potential bike-y projects for me. It may be before or after or instead
of or pre-empted by a mixte (still thinking about Betty as the Next
Bike Thing). But I can enjoy
It seems like the shifter is working now! :)
Almost too embarrassing to tell how it went. I never got the shifting
adjusted while the bike was in the stand (actually 2 different
stands). Trust me, I tried everything. That’s why I never tried it
loaded - the shifting seemed far too nasty for that.
Scroll down below the tandem to find there is an article on bike
handling, including a geometry discusson and examination of shimmy.
Due to mail 11/29; expect a busy early December on this forum!
dougP
On Nov 22, 9:58 am, Seth Vidal wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:55 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Seth Vidal wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:55 PM, cyclotourist
> wrote:
> > That's what I presumed on looking at it. Cool that you have one! I
> wonder
> > if a modern builder (Bilenky??) could correct for that without having to
> > over build it. I love t
Is that issue out yet? I have not seen it. Looks like some
interesting subjects.
I'd love to have a Bilenky tandem, not sure I'd use it enough to
warrant the cost though.
~Mike~
On Nov 22, 9:58 am, Seth Vidal wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:55 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
> > That's what I pre
So far no one has contacted me so if I don't hear today I'll throw it
on Ebay tonight.
~Mike~
On Nov 21, 5:07 pm, Michael_S wrote:
> I bought this six months ago but haven't used it. Brand new khaki
> Inujirushi bag in smaller size, measurements are (W: 250 mm X H: 220
> mm X D: 170 mm). Cost
My preference is the WTB Pure V saddle as an alternate to Brooks. The
all leather Team version is very comfortable to sit in and has a
middle channel to minimize pressure under there. Another is the Selle
Italia Flite Max, both are farily wide, but not as wide as the B17 .
~Mike~
On Nov 22, 8:
The rains arrived in the Bay Area this weekend and scuttled my road
and trail plans. But instead of cleaning chains or re-shellacing bars,
I headed into my friend and riding partner's workshop to dream up a
bike stand for the Quickbeam. It was a fun project and seems to be
working out well. Feel fr
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:55 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
> That's what I presumed on looking at it. Cool that you have one! I wonder
> if a modern builder (Bilenky??) could correct for that without having to
> over build it. I love the design, but would need it to be tough enough and
> not crazy f
That's what I presumed on looking at it. Cool that you have one! I wonder
if a modern builder (Bilenky??) could correct for that without having to
over build it. I love the design, but would need it to be tough enough and
not crazy flexy...
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Seth Vidal wrote:
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:44 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
> That is the coolest design ever!
>
> Anyone know if there are downsides to a frame built like that? Is it super
> flexy or overbuilt to reduce flexiness? Tough enough for bouncing around on
> trails/fire roads???
>
I suspect that is either
Kelly:
Here's the Riv site link on the topic:
http://www.rivbike.com/article/clothing/all_you_need_is_wool
Lots of good stuff in that "read about..." area. Wool dosen't stink
(a real plus when touring) and is the Schwalbe Marathon of fabrics. I
have a medium weight LS wool jersety that must be
That is the coolest design ever!
Anyone know if there are downsides to a frame built like that? Is it super
flexy or overbuilt to reduce flexiness? Tough enough for bouncing around on
trails/fire roads???
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 9:32 AM, bfd wrote:
> On SF CL, there's a "french" mixte tandem
Eric:
You gotta plan ahead; think about late January / early February, when
the excitement of the holidays has worn off, the snow is just a
nuisance, and it's a slog to Spring. I couldn't possible write that
after the New Year without stirring up all sorts of trouble. My
touring bud from St Paul
On SF CL, there's a "french" mixte tandem for $650:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/2074149973.html
Doesn't say who build the bike or the size, but at that price, it
might be a decent deal. Good Luck!
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For those of you in the 650B camp or are B-curious, Jan/Compass is closing
out the Ourson tires. Basically Col de la Vie tires with a lighter/folding
casing. Sounds like a great tire for mixed terrain rides!
http://janheine.wordpress.com/2010/11/22/closeout-grand-bois-ourson-650b-x-36-mm-tires/
What about a B17 Imperial. You get to stay with the Brooks and you
get the slot. I find the Imperial comfortable right out of the box.
On Nov 22, 10:02 am, JGS wrote:
> Hey there,
>
> I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to
> worry that I'm putting too much pressure
I have just spent a bit of time on WTB Pure V. It was very
comfortable and cheap. The problem with it is that "waist” is wide.
The saddle always felt big between my legs. I looked at other WTB
saddles and the wide mid section seems to be part of the design.
Still, it is worth a try. If a Brooks
Some shops may have the WTB Test Ride Program, which is basically a
collection of specially-marked and loaner saddles that you can try
before you buy. We have sold a lot of WTB saddles this way. The two
most popular are the Rocket (narrow-ish) and the Pure (wider, similar
dimensions to a B17). All
I've had good luck with some Specialized Body Geometry saddles --
Avatar Gel for sport (comes in different widths), and the Milano (also
comes in a gel version) for commuting/upright riding. -- Forrest
(Iowa City)
On Nov 22, 9:41 am, Peter Pesce wrote:
> Not sure I'd want to leave a Brooks outs
Not sure I'd want to leave a Brooks outside in NYC either!
I've heard good things about WTB saddles - and they make a pretty wide
variety, so finding a good fit should be possible.
Many of them come in a simple black design, which would look ok. Some
other designs are too flashy for my tastes.
I
Really like the WTB Devo/Deva. Only difference is screen printing AFAIK.
Plus the added benefit of titanium rails, so you'll be faster, better
rested, and undoubtedly smell better.
http://www.wtb.com/products/saddles/racing/devo/
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 7:17 AM, JGS wrote:
> I do ride w/ the
I'm in Bristol, Va.
For those familiar with the area I'll do a brief point to point breakdown. I
took Wagner Road from my house to Island road. Island road to Pittstown
road. Pittstown to Campground road. Campground to Reedy Creek road. Reedy
creek crossing state line and using hway 421 into Tennes
I do ride w/ the nose tipped up, which helps but not enough. I think
part of the problem is that I'm in many different positions since I
mostly ride as a commuter. When I ride more for sport and can shift
my weight forward the pressure tends to move to my sit bones where it
should be.
I've alway
Selle Anatomica of course.. but have you tried your Brooks with the nose tipped
up?
From: JGS
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Sent: Mon, November 22, 2010 9:02:05 AM
Subject: [RBW] Non Brooks Saddle recommendations please.
Hey there,
I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle
Hey there,
I've been riding w/ Brooks saddle for several years and I've come to
worry that I'm putting too much pressure on my softer parts. I've try
adjustments but I'd love to know if anyone has a recommendation for a
simple saddle w/ a slot to protect me that might be great and look
good w/ my
If I may, point is you enjoyed it. IMHO keeping track of your avg speed, HR
etc., is OK if you want to test yourself and such, just don't make it an
obsession, or get bummed if you have an off day or your avg suffers because
you stopped to look at stuff.
Been asking everyone this-what area are yo
Forgot the thread related content.
I don't really know nor care why my Rivs are my favorites. Tubing spec,
geometry, where the tire contacts the road in relation to the steering
axis,amount of springiness, stiffness. I really don't know and really don't
care why. IMO it just don't get any better.
I'm glad I read this. I've been a "bicycler"( I love that
description...thanks Grant P) for the past 22 years. I've never raced and
found early on that group rides weren't for me. I've never been fast
(15-17mph avg at best..usually 13-14) and found that trying to go above that
took the fun out o
Since this is the topic - in cooler weather, a wool long sleeve tee
with either a short or no sleeve tee on top. Then either a
windbreaker or heavy wool shirt on top. Depends on the weather. Have
a couple of old Filson shirts that are good for that. And even better,
an old Bemidji Woolen Mills s
Well put. It did kind of go off course and I think I did some of the
steering. My point was you do notice the weight difference. And you notice
the comfort too. Good position is worth it. It's why so many people come
and go in our sport. They realize that, gasp, no, they aren't going to be
the
Similarly, on a ride which ranged from 53F - 71F over 100Km, a l/s light Ibex
baselayer under a Joneswares s/s jersey. Joneswares shorts, thin wool socks.
Not
cold enough for wool gloves, but if it were, Ibex for cool, and JC Penny for
cold. I wore a wind jacket for about the 1st hour, then no
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