Forgot the thread related content. I don't really know nor care why my Rivs are my favorites. Tubing spec, geometry, where the tire contacts the road in relation to the steering axis,amount of springiness, stiffness. I really don't know and really don't care why. IMO it just don't get any better. I'm no lightweight either. I go 205-215 lbs depending on time of year. My Sam is a 60 and the Ram a 64. I'm sure I'm not the first to say (didn't read all the posts) but to the OP. If you are concerned as to the tubing spec vs your weight I"m sure a call to Grant would clear the matter up completly. C
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 6:49 AM, clyde canter <clyde.can...@gmail.com>wrote: > I'm glad I read this. I've been a "bicycler"( I love that > description...thanks Grant P) for the past 22 years. I've never raced and > found early on that group rides weren't for me. I've never been fast > (15-17mph avg at best..usually 13-14) and found that trying to go above that > took the fun out of riding for me. > I hit the big 5-0 Saturday and it hit me like a boot to the groin (mentally > at least). I was however able to do a wonderful 77 mile ride on my GP > designed Sam Hill. > I Rode to two neighboring towns and back, some mixed terrain, stopped for > lunch (had my first bison burger, great, even though a bit too heavy for a > mid ride break). Total time a bit over 6 hours. Time on bike 5 1/2 hours or > so. Point is I finished. It was the longest ride of my life. I feel I > could have easily done another 23 miles for a solo century, but I had > commitments and had to stop at that. > > Sunday I was able to get out and do a 50 mile all road ride on my Ram. Lots > of curvy roads and fast descents (Jack Brown greens are unbelievable). I > recouped pretty well from Saturday's ride and pushed myself pretty hard. > When I got home I logged my miles and started to flip through my computer to > the avg speed, but decided what the hell and cleared the trip out. I guess > I didn't really want to know how fast or slow I was. I had an awesome time > and that was all that mattered. > > I guess the point I'm trying to make is this. I'm so thankful I didn't let > my slowness discourage me over the years. Bicycler-ing for its own sake has > always been what I looked forward to the most when the weather was nice. > And even when it wasn't so nice. I love it as much today as I did 22 years > and 80 some K miles ago. > > As for Grant Petersen designed bikes I can honestly say they are my > favorites. Ride quality, aesthetics, the whole picture. They are truly a > pleasure to own and use. They are the benchmark I set to gauge all other > bikes I own and ride. I'm quite fond of my other bikes too, but they are > certainly no Rivendells. Thanks Grant! > > Sorry to ramble on, > Clyde (1/2 century old bicycler who lives among non bicyclers,who wanted to > share his experiences with other bicyclers) Canter > > > > > n Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 3:17 PM, robert zeidler > <zeidler.rob...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Well said my friend and this is what I failed to say earlier. Unless >> you're racing for the rent money, it is completely and totally about how you >> feel. If you are 1/2 slower on a metric century, but had a great time, >> that's what counts. >> >> Speaking of Jan, whom I really respect, but nonetheless, he says rando's >> aren't racing but that's what they are doing. I stopped racing waaaay back >> in '92-it was time. It took a while to get it out of my blood. I still >> like going fast, but when I ride a century or a double metric, I make sure >> there is a lot of fun mixed in. If I want to snap a pic I do it. Were are >> all going to end up in the same place eventually. Think it will matter who >> got there first? (just a litl joke!). >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Noel <emiller3...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> A one pound weight difference in a frame actually indicates a fairly >>> significant difference in tubing thickness. Speaking only for myself, >>> significant differences in tubing thicknesses make for significant >>> differences in ride quality. >>> >>> Now, I don't exactly agree with Jan's "planing" hypothesis, and I >>> don't feel I'm any faster or slower on bikes with thicker or thinner >>> tubing, but I do indeed prefer the "feel" (how's that for an objective >>> measurement?) of thinner wall tubing. Heavy gauge tubing (meaning >>> anything over .9/.7/.9) of standard diameter and *any* gauge OS tubing >>> feels wooden and dead to me - "thudding" is a pretty good >>> description, IMO. I personally find that a mix of .8/.5/.8 and . >>> 9/.7/.9 standard diameter makes for a lively frame - and I'm 200 >>> pounds on a 63 cm. frame. >>> >>> Weight? Don't know and don't care. If I wanted light I'd by a Madone. >>> All I care about is ride quality, and I agree that Grant/Riv are >>> building frames out of such heavy tubing that ride quality suffers - >>> even with my beloved Grand Bois Hetres. Thankfully, enough people >>> disagree with me that Rivendell is able to keep its doors open! >>> >>> Noel >>> Orange County, CA. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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