Re: [Qemu-devel] vmware video broken in git

2009-12-11 Thread Dave Airlie
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > Hi Dave, > > On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 14:59 +1000, Dave Airlie wrote: >> Hi guys, >> >> Building 0.11.0, qemu -vga vmware -sdl works fine. >> with git I just get a blank screen. >> >> I'm trying to bisect but I keep running into a big chunk of

Re: [Qemu-devel] TCG is hard to understand!

2009-12-11 Thread Jun Koi
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Laurent Desnogues wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Jun Koi wrote: >> >> Another question: I look at tcg_gen_callN() to see how the helper is >> executed. We put the helper opcode into the TCG code buffer, and put >> helper's params into gen_opparam_buf. >

[Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 3/3] qemu-img rebase

2009-12-11 Thread Kevin Wolf
This adds a rebase subcommand to qemu-img which allows to change the backing file of an image. In default mode, both the current and the new backing file need to exist, and after the rebase, the COW image is guaranteed to have the same guest visible content as before. To achieve this, old and new

[Qemu-devel] [Patch] remove unused params in some TCG functions

2009-12-11 Thread Jun Koi
Hi, Thanks to everybody helping me to have more understanding on QEmu internals. This community is great! This trivial patch removes some unused params in tcg_out_st() and tcg_out_ld(). Probably this remains from dyngen time? Thanks, Jun diff --git a/tcg/i386/tcg-target.c b/tcg/i386/tcg-targe

Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] raw: Use the right host device driver for open/create

2009-12-11 Thread Kevin Wolf
So the proposed patch is too hacky, but nobody likes to discuss what the right way is? What about 0.12? Are we just going to provide the current bad user interface? Kevin

Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/7] Improve alpha-linux userspace emulation

2009-12-11 Thread Tristan Gingold
On Dec 10, 2009, at 1:05 AM, Richard Henderson wrote: > > The following patch series results in an emulator that's good enough > to run a good bit of the GCC testsuite, dynamic linking and all. > There are more failures than native hardware. At first glance they > appear to be fpu related, but

[Qemu-devel] [FOR 0.12 PATCH] vnc: fix capslock tracking logic.

2009-12-11 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
The capslock tracking logic added by commit 6b1325029d80455b9da7cd7bd84a88cb915b867c doesn't work correctly for vnc clients without EXT_KEY_EVENT support. The reason is that qemu converts keysyms for letters to lowercase for the keysym2scancode lookup. It then also passes the lowercase value down

Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/17] pci: switch a ton of drivers to symbolic names

2009-12-11 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 06:28:39PM +, Paul Brook wrote: > On Thursday 10 December 2009, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > The recent e1000 bug made the important of using > > symbolic macros for pci config access clear for me. > > So I started going over drivers and converting > > to symbolic const

Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [FOR 0.12 PATCH 2/4] pci: don't hw_error() when no slot is available.

2009-12-11 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 09:13:06PM +0200, Gleb Natapov wrote: > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 08:04:56PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 03:22:52PM +0200, Gleb Natapov wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 02:23:05PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > > > On Thu, Dec 10, 200

Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [FOR 0.12 PATCH 2/4] pci: don't hw_error() when no slot is available.

2009-12-11 Thread Gleb Natapov
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:37:31PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 09:13:06PM +0200, Gleb Natapov wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 08:04:56PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 03:22:52PM +0200, Gleb Natapov wrote: > > > > On Thu, Dec 10, 200

Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/19] monitor: Convert do_info_name() to QObject

2009-12-11 Thread Luiz Capitulino
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:00:31 + "Daniel P. Berrange" wrote: > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 03:49:20PM -0200, Luiz Capitulino wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:38:13 + > > "Daniel P. Berrange" wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 02:54:57PM -0200, Luiz Capitulino wrote: > > > > > > An op

Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/19] monitor: Convert do_info_name() to QObject

2009-12-11 Thread Anthony Liguori
Luiz Capitulino wrote: The list of what libvirt uses is also outdated. In addition to those in yellow, we also now use, or will likely use in near future device_add device_del info pci set_link migrate_cancel migrate_set_downtime drive_add info usb So given the 0.12 release targ

Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/19] monitor: Convert do_info_name() to QObject

2009-12-11 Thread Anthony Liguori
Luiz Capitulino wrote: On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:24:38 +0200 Avi Kivity wrote: Let me put it another way, I don't think adding null to the json parser and incorporating it into this command is a good idea at this stage in the release so if we want to do something like this, we need to defer

Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/19] monitor: Convert do_info_name() to QObject

2009-12-11 Thread Anthony Liguori
Daniel P. Berrange wrote: Please don't do that. libvirt is adding support for new features all the time. I don't want to be in the situation where we can't add a new feature because it is missing in the JSON impl. If we're going to provide a supported JSON monitor it needs to have all the command

Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/19] monitor: Convert do_info_name() to QObject

2009-12-11 Thread Luiz Capitulino
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:18:27 -0600 Anthony Liguori wrote: > Let's focus on converting the remaining monitor commands. The goal is > that any user of the monitor today can convert over to QMP. > > Once we've achieved that goal, let's start looking at introducing proper > commands that make sen

[Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Yaniv Kamay
Hi, Spice project is now open, for more information visit http://spice-space.org, due to a server relocation the site will be down during this weekend. Spice ship patched QEMU based on fairly old KVM snapshot as a reference implementation. The Spice team plane to push all the relevant bits into Q

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Jun Koi
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Yaniv Kamay wrote: > Hi, > > Spice project is now open, for more information visit http://spice-space.org, > due to a server relocation the site will be down during this weekend. > > Spice ship patched QEMU based on fairly old KVM snapshot as a reference > impleme

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Alexander Graf
On 11.12.2009, at 14:45, Yaniv Kamay wrote: > Hi, > > Spice project is now open, for more information visit http://spice-space.org, > due to a server relocation the site will be down during this weekend. > > Spice ship patched QEMU based on fairly old KVM snapshot as a reference > implementatio

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Yaniv Kamay
- "Jun Koi" wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Yaniv Kamay > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Spice project is now open, for more information visit > http://spice-space.org, > > due to a server relocation the site will be down during this > weekend. > > > > Spice ship patched QEMU based on fa

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Yaniv Kamay
- "Alexander Graf" wrote: > On 11.12.2009, at 14:45, Yaniv Kamay wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Spice project is now open, for more information visit > http://spice-space.org, > > due to a server relocation the site will be down during this > weekend. > > > > Spice ship patched QEMU based on fa

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Jun Koi
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Alexander Graf wrote: > > On 11.12.2009, at 14:45, Yaniv Kamay wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Spice project is now open, for more information visit http://spice-space.org, >> due to a server relocation the site will be down during this weekend. >> >> Spice ship patched QEM

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Anthony Liguori
Yaniv Kamay wrote: Hi, Spice project is now open, for more information visit http://spice-space.org, due to a server relocation the site will be down during this weekend. Spice ship patched QEMU based on fairly old KVM snapshot as a reference implementation. The Spice team plane to push all the

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Anthony Liguori
Jun Koi wrote: On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Alexander Graf wrote: On 11.12.2009, at 14:45, Yaniv Kamay wrote: Hi, Spice project is now open, for more information visit http://spice-space.org, due to a server relocation the site will be down during this weekend. Spice ship patch

Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/6] Fix -kernel with SeaBIOS v2

2009-12-11 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 08:54:42PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote: > Strange - qemu -kernel has zero interaction with the host kernel. It's > a totally normal boot process. Well, it's entirely reproducable. Any idea how to make progress on this? It really keeps me from making progress on doing any qe

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Yaniv Kamay
- "Anthony Liguori" wrote: > Yaniv Kamay wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Spice project is now open, for more information visit > http://spice-space.org, > > due to a server relocation the site will be down during this > weekend. > > > > Spice ship patched QEMU based on fairly old KVM snapshot as a >

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Chris Wright
* Anthony Liguori (anth...@codemonkey.ws) wrote: > Jun Koi wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Alexander Graf wrote: >> >>> On 11.12.2009, at 14:45, Yaniv Kamay wrote: due to a server relocation the site will be down during this weekend. Spice ship patched QEMU based on f

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Chris Wright
* Yaniv Kamay (yka...@redhat.com) wrote: > - "Anthony Liguori" wrote: > > Since VNC is extensible (and we've extended it many times for QEMU), > > if > > Spice possesses unique encoding mechanisms that are advantageous, why > > > > wouldn't we just add those mechanisms to VNC as an extension

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Anthony Liguori
I'm not getting into this discussion and is not going to happen, you have all the necessary information on spiec-space.org in order to take intelligent decision. The QEMU community can choose to reject Spice if it decide to do so. There's nothing to reject. You haven't posted patches. Whe

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Anthony Liguori
Chris Wright wrote: That's a fork like it or not. It is a branch of work. The branch has been done without community interaction, so yes, it looks like a fork. Branches don't carry independent names like "vdesktop". They don't carry their own version strings like 0.4. Regards, Anth

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Yaniv Kamay
- "Anthony Liguori" wrote: > Jun Koi wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Alexander Graf > wrote: > > > >> On 11.12.2009, at 14:45, Yaniv Kamay wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> Spice project is now open, for more information visit > http://spice-space.org, > >>> due to

[Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/7] linux-user: add core dump support for M68K

2009-12-11 Thread Nathan Froyd
Signed-off-by: Nathan Froyd --- linux-user/elfload.c | 29 + 1 files changed, 29 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/linux-user/elfload.c b/linux-user/elfload.c index eb89f5f..53851d9 100644 --- a/linux-user/elfload.c +++ b/linux-user/elfload.c @@ -725,6 +72

[Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/7] linux-user: core dump enhancements

2009-12-11 Thread Nathan Froyd
This patch series adds core dump capabilities for Linux user-mode emulation for several additional architectures. It also fixes core dumps for ARM targets on opposite-endian hosts. Nathan Froyd (7): linux-user: fix ELF_USE_CORE_DUMP/USE_ELF_CORE_DUMP confusion linux-user: commonify definition

[Qemu-devel] Qemu terminating with SIGABRT

2009-12-11 Thread David S. Ahern
I realize this is a rather generic question, but what are typical reasons Qemu would be killed by a SIGABRT? I am seeing this on a somewhat regular (though not repeatable on demand) basis. I do not have a core file, though I hope to capture one if I can get it repeat again. Thanks, -- David Ahern

[Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/7] linux-user: fix ELF_USE_CORE_DUMP/USE_ELF_CORE_DUMP confusion

2009-12-11 Thread Nathan Froyd
Signed-off-by: Nathan Froyd --- linux-user/elfload.c |2 +- 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) diff --git a/linux-user/elfload.c b/linux-user/elfload.c index 682a813..76eb031 100644 --- a/linux-user/elfload.c +++ b/linux-user/elfload.c @@ -1767,7 +1767,7 @@ int load_elf_binary

[Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/7] linux-user: add core dump support for MIPS

2009-12-11 Thread Nathan Froyd
Signed-off-by: Nathan Froyd --- linux-user/elfload.c | 46 ++ 1 files changed, 46 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/linux-user/elfload.c b/linux-user/elfload.c index 97dc3a7..eb89f5f 100644 --- a/linux-user/elfload.c +++ b/linux-user/elfloa

[Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/7] linux-user: add core dump support for SH

2009-12-11 Thread Nathan Froyd
Signed-off-by: Nathan Froyd --- linux-user/elfload.c | 33 + 1 files changed, 33 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/linux-user/elfload.c b/linux-user/elfload.c index 53851d9..e210956 100644 --- a/linux-user/elfload.c +++ b/linux-user/elfload.c @@ -682,6

[Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/7] linux-user: fix ARM core dumps on opposite-endian hosts

2009-12-11 Thread Nathan Froyd
Signed-off-by: Nathan Froyd --- linux-user/elfload.c | 38 +++--- 1 files changed, 19 insertions(+), 19 deletions(-) diff --git a/linux-user/elfload.c b/linux-user/elfload.c index 024dcc2..3551d34 100644 --- a/linux-user/elfload.c +++ b/linux-user/elfload.c @@

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Anthony Liguori
Yaniv Kamay wrote: It already has. It's not a git tree with staged patches. It's a tarball release of a really old version of kvm-userspace that's called 'vdesktop'. This guy is evil and he is motivate by personal agenda. I hope you all will wakeup. Okay, I'm done with this threa

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Alexander Graf
On 11.12.2009, at 18:02, Yaniv Kamay wrote: > > - "Anthony Liguori" wrote: > >> Jun Koi wrote: >>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Alexander Graf >> wrote: >>> On 11.12.2009, at 14:45, Yaniv Kamay wrote: > Hi, > > Spice project is now open, for more inform

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Yaniv Kamay
- "Anthony Liguori" wrote: > > I'm not getting into this discussion and is not going to happen, you > have all > > the necessary information on spiec-space.org in order to take > intelligent > > decision. The QEMU community can choose to reject Spice if it decide > to do so. > > > > Ther

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Alexander Graf
On 11.12.2009, at 18:16, Anthony Liguori wrote: > Yaniv Kamay wrote: >>> It already has. It's not a git tree with staged patches. It's a tarball >>> release of a really old version of kvm-userspace that's called >>> >>> 'vdesktop'. >>> >> >> >> This guy is evil and he is motivate by per

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Anthony Liguori
Alexander Graf wrote: On 11.12.2009, at 18:16, Anthony Liguori wrote: Yaniv Kamay wrote: It already has. It's not a git tree with staged patches. It's a tarball release of a really old version of kvm-userspace that's called 'vdesktop'. This guy is evil and he is motiv

[Qemu-devel] [PATCH] target-mips: fix user-mode emulation startup

2009-12-11 Thread Nathan Froyd
Running programs with the MIPS user-mode emulator fails during dynamic loading, as floating-point instructions are not enabled in in env->hflags. Move the code for doing so from fpu_init to cpu_reset so the MIPS_HFLAG_{FPU,F64} setting doesn't get clobbered by cpu_reset setting env->hflags to MIPS

[Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/7] linux-user: commonify definitions of target typedefs

2009-12-11 Thread Nathan Froyd
There's no sense in separately declaring target_{elf_greg,uid,gid,pid}_t for every architecture. Just declare them once with appropriate USE_UID16 handling. Signed-off-by: Nathan Froyd --- linux-user/elfload.c | 32 ++-- 1 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 22 deleti

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Chris Wright
* Anthony Liguori (anth...@codemonkey.ws) wrote: > Chris Wright wrote: >>> That's a fork like it or not. >>> >> >> It is a branch of work. The branch has been done without community >> interaction, so yes, it looks like a fork. > > Branches don't carry independent names like "vdesktop". They

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi, On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Anthony Liguori wrote: > > I'm not getting into this discussion and is not going to happen, you > > have all the necessary information on spiec-space.org in order to take > > intelligent decision. The QEMU community can choose to reject Spice if > > it decide to do so.

[Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/7] linux-user: add core dump support for PPC

2009-12-11 Thread Nathan Froyd
Signed-off-by: Nathan Froyd --- linux-user/elfload.c | 26 ++ 1 files changed, 26 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/linux-user/elfload.c b/linux-user/elfload.c index 3551d34..97dc3a7 100644 --- a/linux-user/elfload.c +++ b/linux-user/elfload.c @@ -539,6 +539,3

Re: [Qemu-devel] Current state of qemu-system-mips

2009-12-11 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 05:51:40PM +, Palle Lyckegaard wrote: > Hi, > > what is the current state of the qemu-system-malta? > > When I try to run a NetBSD or Linux kernel the following message appears: > > ./git/qemu/mips-softmmu/qemu-system-mips -kernel ./netbsd_malta -m 64 > -nographic > > q

Re: [Qemu-devel] [Patch] remove unused params in some TCG functions

2009-12-11 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 05:54:06PM +0900, Jun Koi wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks to everybody helping me to have more understanding on QEmu > internals. This community is great! > > This trivial patch removes some unused params in tcg_out_st() and > tcg_out_ld(). Probably this remains from dyngen time?

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Izik Eidus
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:57:48 -0600 Anthony Liguori wrote: > Yaniv Kamay wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Spice project is now open, for more information visit > > http://spice-space.org, due to a server relocation the site will be > > down during this weekend. > > > > Spice ship patched QEMU based on fairl

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Glauber Costa
>> It already has.  It's not a git tree with staged patches.  It's a >> tarball release of a really old version of kvm-userspace that's called >> >> 'vdesktop'. > > > This guy is evil and he is motivate by personal agenda. I hope you all will > wakeup. > I don't see anthony with any specific agend

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Ben Taylor
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Izik Eidus wrote: > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:57:48 -0600 > Anthony Liguori wrote: > >> Yaniv Kamay wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > Spice project is now open, for more information visit >> > http://spice-space.org, due to a server relocation the site will be >> > down duri

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Izik Eidus
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:48:28 +0200 Izik Eidus wrote: > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:57:48 -0600 > Anthony Liguori wrote: > > > Yaniv Kamay wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Spice project is now open, for more information visit > > > http://spice-space.org, due to a server relocation the site will > > > be

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu architecture

2009-12-11 Thread Mulyadi Santosa
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:37 PM, pei duan wrote: > Hi guy, >   I  am not very clear qemu architecture,and the relationship between > modules. >   who can help me? > Have you read the discussion started by Jun recently? -- regards, Mulyadi Santosa Freelance Linux trainer and consultan

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread malc
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Izik Eidus wrote: > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:57:48 -0600 > Anthony Liguori wrote: > [..snip..] > > Spice desgien is highly diffrence than VNC > The first thing about spice is that it isnt just a framebuffer drawing > and not a bitmaps protocol. > > Spice protocl support mul

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Anthony Liguori
Hi Izik, Thanks for the explanation. Izik Eidus wrote: So from a protocol perspective, what are the advantages of Spice over VNC? Spice desgien is highly diffrence than VNC The first thing about spice is that it isnt just a framebuffer drawing and not a bitmaps protocol. Spice protocl

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Izik Eidus
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:57:17 + Ben Taylor wrote: > I think the simple point is that, AFAICS, the spice folks are > expecting the qemu team to integrate their big ugly tarball, instead > of doing what everyone else does, which is forward port everything to > current head and then provide a cur

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Anthony Liguori
Izik Eidus wrote: I want to add that qemu is not the sole user of spice, Spice will be used as a protocol to connect into physical windows/linux machines So how can we change the library just for qemu? A library is not necessarily a problem. What would be a probably is if the library ma

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Glauber Costa
>> >> Spice is a library, it is library for remote display, it handle by >> itself all the connection between the spice client to the host that >> run the guest, it include: >> sound, display, keyboard, usb, network tunneling (for printers) and so >> on... >> > > I want to add that qemu is not the

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Glauber Costa
>> I think we should allow freedom of choice to the users to decide what >> protcol they want to use, Spice and VNC are all diffrent and were born >> to meet diffrent goals. >> >> I would happy to answer more questions if anyone have > > I think the simple point is that, AFAICS, the spice folks are

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Izik Eidus
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:03:33 +0300 (MSK) malc wrote: > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Izik Eidus wrote: > > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:57:48 -0600 > > Anthony Liguori wrote: > > > [..snip..] > > > > > Spice desgien is highly diffrence than VNC > > The first thing about spice is that it isnt just a frame

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Glauber Costa
> > But to introduce another protocol where a user has to make a choice to use > Spice over VNC, I think we need a really good justification for that.  It's > really about complexity.  A user shouldn't have to know about Spice or VNC. >  They shouldn't have to contemplate the trade-offs of whether

Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/7] linux-user: add core dump support for PPC

2009-12-11 Thread malc
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Nathan Froyd wrote: > > Signed-off-by: Nathan Froyd Works here. [..snip..] -- mailto:av1...@comtv.ru

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Izik Eidus
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:04:02 -0600 Anthony Liguori wrote: > Hi Izik, > > Thanks for the explanation. > > Izik Eidus wrote: > >> So from a protocol perspective, what are the advantages of Spice > >> over VNC? > >> > > > > > > Spice desgien is highly diffrence than VNC > > The first thing ab

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Izik Eidus
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:06:47 -0600 Anthony Liguori wrote: > Izik Eidus wrote: > > I want to add that qemu is not the sole user of spice, Spice will be > > used as a protocol to connect into physical windows/linux > > machines > > > > So how can we change the library just for qemu? > > > A

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Izik Eidus
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:07:13 -0200 Glauber Costa wrote: > >> > >> Spice is a library, it is library for remote display, it handle by > >> itself all the connection between the spice client to the host that > >> run the guest, it include: > >> sound, display, keyboard, usb, network tunneling (for

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread malc
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Izik Eidus wrote: > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:03:33 +0300 (MSK) > malc wrote: > > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Izik Eidus wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:57:48 -0600 > > > Anthony Liguori wrote: > > > > > [..snip..] > > > > > [..snip..] > > > > Any particular reason f

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 13:04 -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote: > But to introduce another protocol where a user has to make a choice to > use Spice over VNC, I think we need a really good justification for > that. It's really about complexity. A user shouldn't have to know > about Spice or VNC. Th

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Izik Eidus
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:15:02 -0200 Glauber Costa wrote: > > > > But to introduce another protocol where a user has to make a choice > > to use Spice over VNC, I think we need a really good justification > > for that.  It's really about complexity.  A user shouldn't have to > > know about Spice or

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Anthony Liguori
Izik Eidus wrote: I should speek with the marketing guys, will be able to answer on that specific question in few days. But simple 2D Commands are just not enougth for spice. We have multiple drawing surfaces, that are depended on each other. We Dont renender untill the very moment that the gue

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Izik Eidus
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:24:38 +0300 (MSK) malc wrote: > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Izik Eidus wrote: > > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:03:33 +0300 (MSK) > > malc wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Izik Eidus wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:57:48 -0600 > > > > Anthony Liguori wrote: > > >

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Glauber Costa
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Izik Eidus wrote: > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:06:47 -0600 > Anthony Liguori wrote: > >> Izik Eidus wrote: >> > I want to add that qemu is not the sole user of spice, Spice will be >> > used as a protocol to connect into physical windows/linux >> > machines >> > >

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Anthony Liguori
Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 13:04 -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote: But to introduce another protocol where a user has to make a choice to use Spice over VNC, I think we need a really good justification for that. It's really about complexity. A user shouldn't have to know abo

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Izik Eidus
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:30:22 -0600 Anthony Liguori wrote: > Izik Eidus wrote: > > I should speek with the marketing guys, will be able to answer on > > that specific question in few days. > > > > > > But simple 2D Commands are just not enougth for spice. > > We have multiple drawing surfaces, tha

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Chris Wright
* Glauber Costa (glom...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > But to introduce another protocol where a user has to make a choice to use > > Spice over VNC, I think we need a really good justification for that.  It's > > really about complexity.  A user shouldn't have to know about Spice or VNC. > >  They sho

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 13:38 -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote: > Mark McLoughlin wrote: > > On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 13:04 -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote: > > > >> But to introduce another protocol where a user has to make a choice to > >> use Spice over VNC, I think we need a really good justification f

Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/19] monitor: Convert do_info_name() to QObject

2009-12-11 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 07:20:12AM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote: > Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > >Please don't do that. libvirt is adding support for new features all the > >time. I don't want to be in the situation where we can't add a new feature > >because it is missing in the JSON impl. If we're

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Anthony Liguori
Izik Eidus wrote: On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:30:22 -0600 Anthony Liguori wrote: Izik Eidus wrote: I should speek with the marketing guys, will be able to answer on that specific question in few days. But simple 2D Commands are just not enougth for spice. We have multiple drawing surface

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Anthony Liguori
Mark McLoughlin wrote: I don't doubt there are challenges. I think your requirement that old clients work with new servers and new clients work with old servers is a good one. Maybe extending VNC is the best way to get there, but it should be recognized there is another way of achieving the same

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread malc
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Izik Eidus wrote: > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:24:38 +0300 (MSK) > malc wrote: > > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Izik Eidus wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:03:33 +0300 (MSK) > > > malc wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Izik Eidus wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 11

[Qemu-devel] Bug in Sparc64/IDE Code

2009-12-11 Thread Nick Couchman
In working to try to get Sparc64 system emulation developed, we seem to have run into an issue with the IDE code in Qemu. The OpenBIOS folks have been working quite a few issues with the OpenBIOS code that need to be resolved in order to boot 64-bit Solaris kernels correctly, but the most recen

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Izik Eidus
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:51:53 -0600 Anthony Liguori wrote: > Izik Eidus wrote: > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:30:22 -0600 > > Anthony Liguori wrote: > > > > > >> Izik Eidus wrote: > >> > >>> I should speek with the marketing guys, will be able to answer on > >>> that specific question in few

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Izik Eidus
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:53:25 +0300 (MSK) malc wrote: > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Izik Eidus wrote: > > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:24:38 +0300 (MSK) > > malc wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Izik Eidus wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:03:33 +0300 (MSK) > > > > malc wrote: > > > > >

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Izik Eidus
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:51:53 -0600 Anthony Liguori wrote: > libc is not a plugin. It implements very well defined behaviors that > have well understood behaviors. Also, glibc generally does not crash > :-) I would not want a user to replace glibc with a different libc. I think it problomati

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Anthony Liguori
Izik Eidus wrote: I personaly dont like mjpeg, and yes in the end of the day you can add the video streaming into vnc, but what is the point here? What I'm trying to understand is, what can we do with Spice that we couldn't possibly do with vnc. That means understanding each feature and t

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Anthony Liguori
Izik Eidus wrote: On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:51:53 -0600 Anthony Liguori wrote: libc is not a plugin. It implements very well defined behaviors that have well understood behaviors. Also, glibc generally does not crash :-) I would not want a user to replace glibc with a different libc.

[Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Avoid permanently disabled QEMU monitor when UNIX migration fails

2009-12-11 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
If a UNIX migration command is attempt to a UNIX socket which does not exist, then the monitor is suspended, but never resumed. This prevents any further use of the monitor * migration-unix.c: Only call migrate_fd_monitor_suspend() once connected to the UNIX socket. --- migration-unix.c | 12

[Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH] Avoid permanently disabled QEMU monitor when UNIX migration fails

2009-12-11 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 08:49:31PM +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > If a UNIX migration command is attempt to a UNIX socket which does > not exist, then the monitor is suspended, but never resumed. This > prevents any further use of the monitor > > * migration-unix.c: Only call migrate_fd_monito

[Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Avoid permanently disabled QEMU monitor when UNIX migration fails

2009-12-11 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
If a UNIX migration command is attempt to a UNIX socket which does not exist, then the monitor is suspended, but never resumed. This prevents any further use of the monitor * migration-unix.c: Only call migrate_fd_monitor_suspend() once connected to the UNIX socket. Signed-off-by: Daniel P.

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Izik Eidus
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:46:55 -0600 Anthony Liguori wrote: > Izik Eidus wrote: > > I personaly dont like mjpeg, and yes in the end of the day you can > > add the video streaming into vnc, but what is the point here? > > > > What I'm trying to understand is, what can we do with Spice that we >

Re: [Qemu-devel] RFC: exit on incoming exec migrate failure

2009-12-11 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 01:10:18PM -0800, Andrew Farmer wrote: > Right now, if an incoming migrate through exec fails, the qemu process > will end up chewing CPU indefinitely - it looks like it closes the > migration FD but doesn't remove its IO handler properly. An easy way > to reproduce this

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Izik Eidus
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:48:53 -0600 Anthony Liguori wrote: > Izik Eidus wrote: > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:51:53 -0600 > > Anthony Liguori wrote: > > > > > >> libc is not a plugin. It implements very well defined behaviors > >> that have well understood behaviors. Also, glibc generally does >

Re: [Qemu-devel] Adding support for Mac OS X ppc64 host

2009-12-11 Thread Andreas Färber
Am 06.12.2009 um 07:37 schrieb malc: will try system-ppc later.. I've tried Debian 4.0r4a ppc netinst CD on Linux/ppc64 and spotted different but similar deviations: ppc64 qemu-system-ppc segfaults after "returning from prom_init". ppc64 qemu-system-ppc64 boots the default "install" optio

Re: [Qemu-devel] Current state of qemu-system-mips

2009-12-11 Thread Palle Lyckegaard
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Aurelien Jarno wrote: Which version are you using? Both stable-0.12 and trunk are working fine here, at least on a Linux host. I've been tracking trunk for the last couple of weeks and the problem has been present all the time. Probably af host issue then... for refere

Re: [Qemu-devel] Current state of qemu-system-mips

2009-12-11 Thread Palle Lyckegaard
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009, Andreas Färber wrote: I don't know about MIPS, but have you tried any of my --whole-archive patches for Solaris? Not having things initialized properly can lead to mysterious crashes at startup. I will have a look a your patches (http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qem

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Anthony Liguori
Izik Eidus wrote: By the time we get to video memory, the display server has already straightened out what portions of the screen are visible and what aren't. It will not render a hidden window and then render another window on top of it. I dont understand, if you have applciati

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Anthony Liguori
Izik Eidus wrote: Ok, I guess you think VDI-interfaces are doing much more than they do in reiality. It is just simple interface to Allow Spice / VNC / whatever not have to de-duplicate code in order to get information from - lets say the keyboard Is it really diffrence from any other funct

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Alexander Graf
On 11.12.2009, at 22:13, Izik Eidus wrote: > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:46:55 -0600 > Anthony Liguori wrote: > >> Izik Eidus wrote: >>> I personaly dont like mjpeg, and yes in the end of the day you can >>> add the video streaming into vnc, but what is the point here? >>> >> >> What I'm trying to

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Dor Laor
On 12/12/2009 12:08 AM, Alexander Graf wrote: On 11.12.2009, at 22:13, Izik Eidus wrote: On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:46:55 -0600 Anthony Liguori wrote: Izik Eidus wrote: I personaly dont like mjpeg, and yes in the end of the day you can add the video streaming into vnc, but what is the point he

Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open

2009-12-11 Thread Izik Eidus
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:54:52 -0600 Anthony Liguori wrote: > Izik Eidus wrote: > By the time we get to video memory, the display server has > already straightened out what portions of the screen are visible > and what aren't. It will not render a hidden window and then > rende

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