Re: [python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps"

John, A philosopher friend of mine wants to transition into working as a software developer (paying work in philosophy being a bit rare). He lives in London, and is considering signing up for one of the Coding "Bootcamps" that various organisations run. I wondered if any of you have any recomme

Re: [python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps"

Thanks Harry! On 20/05/16 16:42, Harry Percival wrote: > *Btw, I would be really interested to hear fun and practical links between > philosophy and programming for learning purposes. Of course there's a long > history linking philosophy, maths and programming. Books like "Gödel, > Escher, Bach: A

Re: [python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps"

*Btw, I would be really interested to hear fun and practical links between philosophy and programming for learning purposes. Of course there's a long history linking philosophy, maths and programming. Books like "Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid" might provide some inspiration.* Sligh

Re: [python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps"

Hi! Not sure whether it has been mentioned yet, but learning by teaching could also be an option, for example running an after school Code Club to teach Scratch (mentioned below, see also https://scratch.mit.edu/) and then Python to 9-11 year olds: https://www.codeclub.org.uk/. All materials ar

Re: [python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps"

Hi All New to this mail list and python in general, but I have in the past participated in the Java Ranch - Cattle Drive http://www.javaranch.com/java-college.jsp The exercises start off easy enough, but the markers are sticklers for their style guide and on good quality code. I haven't seen an

Re: [python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps"

I doubt I need to preach about it here but I'd still liked to suggest starting by simply having fun! If your friend has a personal interest/hobby where programming can be used for exploration then grab a module that does most of the grunt work and start hacking away at the examples for his own purp

Re: [python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps"

> > When learning on your own, there is the risk of not getting good > idiomatic code practices and styles. The OU are well aware of this even > if they sometimes get it wrong. Any self learner needs to have access > to quality mentors to provide quality feedback so that the self- > directed learni

Re: [python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps"

On Wed, 2016-05-18 at 15:52 +0100, Zeth wrote: > […] > Obviously I don't know anything about where you friend is in terms of > skills but he could just host his own bootcamp at home, nothing > really > beats just getting down and writing software, a week doing that would > never be wasted. […] On

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For what it's worth... my degrees in music and philosophy are the best My computing degree, on the other hand, is completely out of date and My degrees are in econometrics and theology, and I also somehow found Boton about what philosophy is and whether it's useful. From memory, What a lea

Re: [python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps"

On 18/05/2016 10:59, John via python-uk wrote: Hi all, A philosopher friend of mine wants to transition into working as a software developer (paying work in philosophy being a bit rare). He lives in London, and is considering signing up for one of the Coding "Bootcamps" that various organisation

Re: [python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps"

On 19/05/16 00:27, Nicholas H.Tollervey wrote: On 18/05/16 12:57, Steve Holden wrote: No, it's chaotic here. And you? S Steve Holden I'm fine. Working from home today so avoiding the London commute. =now why didn't I think of that? #off-by-one =off by 12,000 miles... -- Regards, =dn

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For what it's worth... my degrees in music and philosophy are the best investment of time and effort I ever made. I use the skills I learned whilst taking those courses *every* day in my job as a programmer and I also believe I'm a better person as a result. My computing degree, on the other hand,

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You can become Ricky Gervais... https://www.ucl.ac.uk/philosophy/prospective-students/careers-destinations ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk

Re: [python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps"

On 18 May 2016 at 16:11, Andy Robinson wrote: > On 18 May 2016 at 15:52, Zeth wrote: > > My degrees are in econometrics and theology, and I also somehow found > > myself making a living from writing code. I know theology is much more > > practical than philosophy but I am sure the same logic app

Re: [python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps"

On Wed, May 18, 2016, at 04:11 PM, Andy Robinson wrote: > Although Google did recently hire a philosopher, I believe... On the subject of coding philosophers, the main author of the document conversion tool Pandoc is the chair of the UC Berkeley philosophy department. It's written in Haskell, whic

Re: [python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps"

On 18 May 2016 at 15:52, Zeth wrote: > My degrees are in econometrics and theology, and I also somehow found > myself making a living from writing code. I know theology is much more > practical than philosophy but I am sure the same logic applies* There was a great Tim Ferriss podcast where he in

Re: [python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps"

Forgot to mention Udacity , with has their so-called "Nanodegree" programs - once completed they apparently can help/will guarantee you will find a job within 6 months (or your money back), though I have no idea how applicable this

Re: [python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps"

On 18 May 2016 at 15:54, Nicholas H.Tollervey wrote: > On 18/05/16 15:52, Zeth wrote: >> I know theology is much more >> practical than philosophy but I am sure the same logic applies* > > I just snorted out my tea while laughing... :-D :) 😀 ___ python

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On 18/05/16 15:52, Zeth wrote: > I know theology is much more > practical than philosophy but I am sure the same logic applies* I just snorted out my tea while laughing... :-D N. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ python-uk mail

Re: [python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps"

On 18 May 2016 at 11:33, Hansel Dunlop wrote: > > Maybe your friend has a project that he could spend his evenings working on > instead? I would always hire someone who had made something over someone > that hadn't. My degrees are in econometrics and theology, and I also somehow found myself maki

Re: [python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps"

On 18 May 2016 at 14:18, Andy Robinson wrote: > We need summer interns urgently.. In London too... ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk

Re: [python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps"

Given the 'lives in London' aspect, he may want to keep an eye out for the next Python Code Dojo, as it's usually very beginner friendly and if he shows reasonable capacity for logical thought he might find someone who is looking for a junior level person (no guarantees of course, but getting conta

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I'm a philosophy graduate. We need summer interns urgently for a social-venture project, who can write and think clearly right now, and learn to program on the job, sitting in the room with experienced devs. So feel free to put him in touch with us and I'll see if our project is a good match. A

Re: [python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps"

Hi, Quite a few good responses already, but just to add the suggestion that he also have a look at/consider some of the free or low/lower cost educational options available, such as Coursera , EdX , KhanAcademy or perh

Re: [python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps"

On 18/05/16 12:57, Steve Holden wrote: > No, it's chaotic here. And you? S > > Steve Holden > I'm fine. Working from home today so avoiding the London commute. :-P #off-by-one signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ python-uk mai

Re: [python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps"

Please ignore that - weird off by one error replying due to newly arriving email :) From: alex_inte...@hotmail.com To: python-uk@python.org Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 12:53:41 +0100 Subject: Re: [python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps" How is your day going? Is it staying quiet and productive?

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o: python-uk@python.org > Subject: Re: [python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps" > > > Codeschool and pluralsigh. > > https://www.codeschool.com/courses/try-python > https://www.codeschool.com/courses/flying-through-python > https://www.pluralsight.com/ > > > > On 18

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How is your day going? Is it staying quiet and productive? Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 12:47:04 +0100 From: bena...@gmail.com To: python-uk@python.org Subject: Re: [python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps" Codeschool and pluralsigh. https://www.codeschool.com/courses/try-python https://www.code

Re: [python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps"

Codeschool and pluralsigh. https://www.codeschool.com/courses/try-python https://www.codeschool.com/courses/flying-through-python https://www.pluralsight.com/ On 18 May 2016 at 12:23, Nick Sarbicki wrote: > On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 12:04 PM wrote: > >> How about MOOCs? >> >> Dr Chuck (of 'the

Re: [python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps"

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 12:04 PM wrote: > How about MOOCs? > > Dr Chuck (of 'the book' fame) teaches one from Georgia Tech on Coursera > (https://www.coursera.org/courses?languages=en&query=python) > > Similarly edX offers a range of either scheduled or self-paced offerings > (https://www.edx.org

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On 18/05/2016 11:53, p...@getaroundtoit.co.uk wrote: Similarly edX offers a range of either scheduled or self-paced offerings (https://www.edx.org/course?search_query=python) Similarly edX offers a range of either scheduled or self-paced offerings (https://www.edx.org/course?search_query=python)

Re: [python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps"

On 18/05/16 22:25, Nicholas H.Tollervey wrote: As someone with a background in Philosophy I can see where your friend is coming from. ;-) As far as I can tell, the bootcamps are not worth the money for the following reasons: I'm not a great fan or supporter of "boot camps" either. They tend to

Re: [python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps"

On 18/05/16 11:44, Paulo Benatto wrote: > https://codebar.io/ > +1 I've heard great things about codebar.io But also, what Hansel said. :-) N. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org htt

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https://codebar.io/ On 18 May 2016 at 11:33, Hansel Dunlop wrote: > As someone who has been recruiting junior developers this year. I can say > that the boot camps don't do much to differentiate you from the pack. There > is also a very large number of people coming out of them meeting a much >

Re: [python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps"

As someone who has been recruiting junior developers this year. I can say that the boot camps don't do much to differentiate you from the pack. There is also a very large number of people coming out of them meeting a much smaller amount of actual demand for people at that stage of their career. And

Re: [python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps"

As someone with a background in Philosophy I can see where your friend is coming from. ;-) As far as I can tell, the bootcamps are not worth the money for the following reasons: * They're expensive for what you get. * They're all about cramming facts. * They teach specific technologies rather tha

[python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps"

Hi all, A philosopher friend of mine wants to transition into working as a software developer (paying work in philosophy being a bit rare). He lives in London, and is considering signing up for one of the Coding "Bootcamps" that various organisations run. I wondered if any of you have any recommen