On 18 May 2016 at 11:33, Hansel Dunlop <han...@interpretthis.org> wrote: > > Maybe your friend has a project that he could spend his evenings working on > instead? I would always hire someone who had made something over someone > that hadn't.
My degrees are in econometrics and theology, and I also somehow found myself making a living from writing code. I know theology is much more practical than philosophy but I am sure the same logic applies* Obviously I don't know anything about where you friend is in terms of skills but he could just host his own bootcamp at home, nothing really beats just getting down and writing software, a week doing that would never be wasted. I don't know if this counts as philosophy but I like this bit from one of my heroes, GCC and Emacs inventor Richard Stallman#: "Yoda's aphorism (“There is no ‘try’”) sounds neat, but it doesn't work for me. I have done most of my work while anxious about whether I could do the job, and unsure that it would be enough to achieve the goal if I did. But I tried anyway, because there was no one but me between the enemy and my city. Surprising myself, I have sometimes succeeded." Best Wishes, Zeth * I should point out that was a joke obviously, just in case the computer science majors get confused. # http://www.gnu.org/gnu/thegnuproject.en.html > > Hansel > > On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Nicholas H.Tollervey <nt...@ntoll.org> > wrote: >> >> As someone with a background in Philosophy I can see where your friend >> is coming from. ;-) >> >> As far as I can tell, the bootcamps are not worth the money for the >> following reasons: >> >> * They're expensive for what you get. >> * They're all about cramming facts. >> * They teach specific technologies rather than software engineering. >> >> Having said that, some may be quite good but your mileage might vary. >> >> What I would do is find a university that does evening classes (such as >> Birkbeck College, University of London) or sign up to the OU for a >> taster, and take an introductory course in programming. I'd also >> encourage your friend to think of a problem they're interested in and >> use that as the basis / inspiration for learning things. If they want to >> learn Python, bring them to the London Python Code Dojo and get them to >> engage with the community. Finally, if they want to jump in with both >> feet, they could sign up for a "conversion" MSc in Computing (for people >> with undergraduate degrees in non-computing subjects). That's what I did. >> >> Hope this helps, >> >> N. >> >> On 18/05/16 10:59, John via python-uk wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > A philosopher friend of mine wants to transition into working as a >> > software developer (paying work in philosophy being a bit rare). He >> > lives in London, and is considering signing up for one of the Coding >> > "Bootcamps" that various organisations run. I wondered if any of you >> > have any recommendations you could make, and indeed whether any of these >> > bootcamps teach Python? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > John >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > python-uk mailing list >> > python-uk@python.org >> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk >> > >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> python-uk mailing list >> python-uk@python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk >> > > > > -- > > Hansel > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > _______________________________________________ python-uk mailing list python-uk@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk