https://codebar.io/ On 18 May 2016 at 11:33, Hansel Dunlop <han...@interpretthis.org> wrote:
> As someone who has been recruiting junior developers this year. I can say > that the boot camps don't do much to differentiate you from the pack. There > is also a very large number of people coming out of them meeting a much > smaller amount of actual demand for people at that stage of their career. > And they are VERY expensive and some of them charge employers to hire their > students. i.e they are operating like recruiters. > > Maybe your friend has a project that he could spend his evenings working > on instead? I would always hire someone who had made something over someone > that hadn't. > > Hansel > > On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Nicholas H.Tollervey <nt...@ntoll.org> > wrote: > >> As someone with a background in Philosophy I can see where your friend >> is coming from. ;-) >> >> As far as I can tell, the bootcamps are not worth the money for the >> following reasons: >> >> * They're expensive for what you get. >> * They're all about cramming facts. >> * They teach specific technologies rather than software engineering. >> >> Having said that, some may be quite good but your mileage might vary. >> >> What I would do is find a university that does evening classes (such as >> Birkbeck College, University of London) or sign up to the OU for a >> taster, and take an introductory course in programming. I'd also >> encourage your friend to think of a problem they're interested in and >> use that as the basis / inspiration for learning things. If they want to >> learn Python, bring them to the London Python Code Dojo and get them to >> engage with the community. Finally, if they want to jump in with both >> feet, they could sign up for a "conversion" MSc in Computing (for people >> with undergraduate degrees in non-computing subjects). That's what I did. >> >> Hope this helps, >> >> N. >> >> On 18/05/16 10:59, John via python-uk wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > A philosopher friend of mine wants to transition into working as a >> > software developer (paying work in philosophy being a bit rare). He >> > lives in London, and is considering signing up for one of the Coding >> > "Bootcamps" that various organisations run. I wondered if any of you >> > have any recommendations you could make, and indeed whether any of these >> > bootcamps teach Python? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > John >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > python-uk mailing list >> > python-uk@python.org >> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk >> > >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> python-uk mailing list >> python-uk@python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk >> >> > > > -- > > Hansel > > _______________________________________________ > python-uk mailing list > python-uk@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-uk > > -- Paulo Leonardo Benatto, patito friend, nerd, hobbit, joker, coffee maker and bug factory =) http://patito.github.io
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