Re: Who are the "spacists"?

2017-03-18 Thread Mikhail V
On 18 March 2017 at 16:54, Lutz Horn wrote: > Am 18.03.17 um 16:18 schrieb Mikhail V: >> On 18 March 2017 at 05:02, Ben Finney >> wrote: >>> Mikhail V writes: >>> >>>> I think it would be a salvation to forbid spaces for indentation, >>>>

Re: Who are the "spacists"?

2017-03-18 Thread Mikhail V
On 18 March 2017 at 21:19, Bob Gailer wrote: > On Mar 17, 2017 9:23 PM, "Mikhail V" wrote: >> >> So Python supports both spaces and tabs for indentation. >> >> I just wonder, why not forbid spaces in the beginning of lines? >> How would one come to th

Re: Who are the "spacists"?

2017-03-18 Thread Mikhail V
> On 19 March 2017 at 01:39, Steve D'Aprano wrote: >> On Sun, 19 Mar 2017 08:24 am, Mikhail V wrote: >> >> I've noticed a tendency that more and more users >> choose tabs. >Have you really? I've noticed the opposite. Not *really*, but on stackoverflo

Re: Who are the "spacists"?

2017-03-19 Thread Mikhail V
On 19 March 2017 at 02:05, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Chris Angelico : > >> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Steve D'Aprano >> wrote: >>> Is it also ridiculous to use several newlines to space paragraphs >>> vertically? >> >> At least with paragraphs, we don't have eternal debates between people >>

Re: Tabs are a security vulnerabilty [was Re: Who are the "spacists"?]

2017-03-19 Thread Mikhail V
On 19 March 2017 at 01:32, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > On Sun, 19 Mar 2017 03:30 am, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> tabs are a major security vulnerability and should be outlawed >> in all source code. > > > I've heard many arguments both in favour of and against tabs, but I've never > heard them described

Re: Who are the "spacists"?

2017-03-19 Thread Mikhail V
On 18 March 2017 at 22:50, Nathan Ernst wrote: > My issue with using spaces instead of tabs, is that, as mentioned earlier in > the thread, everyone has their own preferences on indentation. I've worked > on teams where different developers used 2, 3 & 4 spaces as indentation. > Obviously, if you'

Re: Who are the "spacists"?

2017-03-19 Thread Mikhail V
On 19 March 2017 at 22:54, Gregory Ewing wrote: > Mikhail V wrote: >> >> Monospaced text rendering is an artifact, >> which exist on a very short time period in history. >> At best, one should just imagine it should not exist, and is >> just a temporary inconvi

Re: Who are the "spacists"?

2017-03-20 Thread Mikhail V
On 20 March 2017 at 16:19, BartC wrote: > On 20/03/2017 14:32, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 1:24 AM, BartC wrote: >>> >>> But it would be better IMO if tabs were used, with some scheme for >>> suggesting the tab width (or set of tab stops) that is recommended (eg. a >>> com

Re: Who are the "spacists"?

2017-03-21 Thread Mikhail V
On 21 March 2017 at 14:42, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Wildman : > >> On Tue, 21 Mar 2017 06:01:26 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: >>> Can you ask your workmates to elaborate? I'd love to hear. >> >> I would love to hear also. I've been using Linux for about 10 years >> and I have never had anything "bre

Re: Who are the "spacists"?

2017-03-21 Thread Mikhail V
On 21 March 2017 at 15:49, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2017-03-21, Mikhail V wrote: > >> Didn't want to say this, but you know it was quite predictable from >> the beginning that the arguments will end up somewhere in "linux >> console is the center of the univ

Re: Who are the "spacists"?

2017-03-21 Thread Mikhail V
On 21 March 2017 at 17:41, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 21 March 2017 11:04:58 Mikhail V wrote: > >> On 21 March 2017 at 15:49, Grant Edwards > wrote: >> > On 2017-03-21, Mikhail V wrote: >> > >> >> I don't know how to help, probably if t

Re: Who are the "spacists"?

2017-03-21 Thread Mikhail V
On 21 March 2017 at 22:40, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 8:27 AM, Mikhail V wrote: >> I'd just tell one thing since I am a bit tired: if you wish, >> take an advice: avoid *any* monospaced fonts as plague if you are >> reading a lot of informa

Re: Who are the "spacists"?

2017-03-21 Thread Mikhail V
On 21 March 2017 at 16:42, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 03/21/2017 08:15 AM, Mikhail V wrote: >> Didn't want to say this, but you know it was quite predictable from >> the beginning that >> the arguments will end up somewhere in "linux console is the center of the &

Re: PEOPLE! PLEASE! [ WAS: Re: Who are the "spacists"? ]

2017-03-25 Thread Mikhail V
On 26 March 2017 at 00:01, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 03/25/2017 01:40 PM, Gilmeh Serda wrote: >> So Python supports both spaces and tabs for indentation. >> >> People! >> >> This is as far from normal conversation about Python as it gets! >> >> Keep this shit to yourselves, PLEASE! >> >> Usi

Re: Who are the "spacists"?

2017-03-26 Thread Mikhail V
On 26 March 2017 at 06:16, Wildman via Python-list wrote: > On Tue, 21 Mar 2017 15:15:14 +0100, Mikhail V wrote: > >> And on linux console, by default one does not even have good >> possibilities for text-mode pseudographics, it was more relevant >> in DOS where one ha

Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-03-26 Thread Mikhail V
On 26 March 2017 at 16:28, Wildman via Python-list wrote: > On Sun, 26 Mar 2017 15:18:06 +0200, Mikhail V wrote: > >> On 26 March 2017 at 06:16, Wildman via Python-list >> wrote: >>> On Tue, 21 Mar 2017 15:15:14 +0100, Mikhail V wrote: >>> >>>> An

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-03-26 Thread Mikhail V
On 26 March 2017 at 17:37, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 2:17 AM, Mikhail V wrote: >>>> Why? IIRC I can do good pseudographics on linux only with extended >>>> unicode character sets, so yes it is possible, is that what you mean? >>> >&g

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-03-26 Thread Mikhail V
On 26 March 2017 at 20:10, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 03:57 am, Mikhail V wrote: > > [...] >>>> And more important: can one use binary (bitmap) fonts in default modern >>>> linux console? If yes, can one patch them with custom tiles at >

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-03-26 Thread Mikhail V
On 26 March 2017 at 21:53, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 6:25 AM, Mikhail V wrote: >> On 26 March 2017 at 20:10, Steve D'Aprano wrote: >>> On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 03:57 am, Mikhail V wrote: >>> >>> [...] >>>>>> And m

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-03-30 Thread Mikhail V
On 30 March 2017 at 07:43, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 3:21 PM, Rick Johnson > wrote: >> On Sunday, March 26, 2017 at 2:53:49 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote: >>> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 6:25 AM, Mikhail V wrote: >>> > On 26 March 2017 at 20

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-03-30 Thread Mikhail V
On 30 March 2017 at 16:14, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 03:21 pm, Rick Johnson wrote: > >> On Sunday, March 26, 2017 at 2:53:49 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote: >>> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 6:25 AM, Mikhail V wrote: >>> > On 26 March 2017

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Mikhail V
On 1 April 2017 at 06:38, Rick Johnson wrote: > On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 9:14:54 AM UTC-5, Steve D'Aprano wrote: >> - and making band names look ǨØØĻ and annoy old fuddy- >> duddies. > > So now we've even included graffiti artists in our little > "inclusivity project". My, my... we are so _

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Mikhail V
On 1 April 2017 at 22:57, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 6:07 AM, Mikhail V wrote: >> On 1 April 2017 at 06:38, Rick Johnson wrote: >>> On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 9:14:54 AM UTC-5, Steve D'Aprano wrote: >> >>>> - and making

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Mikhail V
On 1 April 2017 at 18:00, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 12:17 pm, Rick Johnson wrote: > >> Most people just quietly change the filename and move on > > > There are over a billion people in China, almost a billion more in India, > about 140 million people in Russia, nearly 130 million

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Mikhail V
On 2 April 2017 at 00:22, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 8:16 AM, Mikhail V wrote: >> For multiple-alphabet rendering I will use some >> custom text format, e.g. with tags >> ... , and for latin >> ... and etc. >> >> Simple and effecti

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-01 Thread Mikhail V
On 2 April 2017 at 02:01, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 9:25 AM, Mikhail V wrote: >> On 2 April 2017 at 00:22, Chris Angelico wrote: >>> On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 8:16 AM, Mikhail V wrote: >>>> For multiple-alphabet rendering I will use some >

Re: Text-mode apps (Was :Who are the "spacists"?)

2017-04-04 Thread Mikhail V
On 3 April 2017 at 19:55, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > I didn't see you calling out Rick for his prejudice against those who aren't > American, his absurd belief that "most" people are satisfied with ASCII, Hmm... that is interesting. Everyone has some beliefs... If I make a bit more on-topic questio

Re: Python and the need for speed

2017-04-10 Thread Mikhail V
On 10 April 2017 at 02:21, Gregory Ewing wrote: > > > > My take on the idea of making Python less dynamic in order > to improve speed is that you'll end up with a language that, > while it may superficially resemble Python, doesn't > really feel like Python. > > Boo is an example of that. It

Re: Python and the need for speed

2017-04-11 Thread Mikhail V
On 11 April 2017 at 16:56, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 07:56 pm, Brecht Machiels wrote: > >[...] > >> DropBox and >> Google seem to agree that there are no good solutions, since they are >> moving to Go. > > That's a good solution! Maybe we should be writing extensions in Go, inste

Re: Pound sign problem

2017-04-11 Thread Mikhail V
On 10 April 2017 at 15:17, David Shi via Python-list wrote: > In the data set, pound sign escape appears: > u'price_currency': u'\xa3', u'price_formatted': u'\xa3525,000', > When using table.to_csv after importing pandas as pd, an error message > persists as follows: > UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii'

Re: Python and the need for speed

2017-04-11 Thread Mikhail V
On 11 April 2017 at 23:45, MRAB wrote: > On 2017-04-11 21:58, Mikhail V wrote: >> >> On 11 April 2017 at 16:56, Steve D'Aprano >> wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 07:56 pm, Brecht Machiels wrote: >>> >>> [...] >>> >

Re: Python and the need for speed

2017-04-11 Thread Mikhail V
On 12 April 2017 at 00:02, Rick Johnson wrote: > On Monday, April 10, 2017 at 7:25:48 AM UTC-5, Mikhail V wrote: >> Still I miss some old school features in Python, e.g. >> "goto" statement would be very useful in some cases. > > Are you serious? Not so serious to

"Goto" statement in Python

2017-04-12 Thread Mikhail V
On 12 April 2017 at 02:44, Nathan Ernst wrote: > goto is a misunderstood and much misaligned creature. It is a very useful > feature, but like nearly any programming construct can be abused. > > Constructs like 'break', 'continue' or 'next' in languages like Python or > C/C++ are goto's with impli

Re: "Goto" statement in Python

2017-04-13 Thread Mikhail V
On 13 April 2017 at 02:17, Rob Gaddi wrote: > > def finder: > for s in S: > if s == 'i': > return 'found on stage 1' > > S = S + ' hello world' > for s in S: > if s == 'd': > return 'found on stage 2' > > raise ValueError('not found; S=' + S) > > try: > message = fin

Re: "Goto" statement in Python

2017-04-13 Thread Mikhail V
On 13 April 2017 at 18:48, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Mikhail V wrote: >> Now I wonder, have we already collected *all* bells and whistles of Python >> in these two examples, or is there something else for expressing trivial >> thing. > > F

Re: "Goto" statement in Python

2017-04-13 Thread Mikhail V
On 13 April 2017 at 19:38, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Mikhail V wrote: >> On 13 April 2017 at 18:48, Ian Kelly wrote: >>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Mikhail V wrote: >>>> Now I wonder, have we already collected *all* bells and wh

Re: "Goto" statement in Python

2017-04-16 Thread Mikhail V
On 14 April 2017 at 03:44, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 12:52 am, bartc wrote: > >> I know this isn't the Python need-for-speed thread, but this is a >> classic example where the lack of one simple feature leads to using >> slower, more cumbersome ones. > > Dear gods, have I fallen

Re: Looping [was Re: Python and the need for speed]

2017-04-17 Thread Mikhail V
On 17 April 2017 at 04:00, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 05:49 am, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > >> On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 02:48:08 +1000, Steve D'Aprano >> declaimed the following: >> >>>On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 11:57 pm, bartc wrote: >>> But people just don't want it. >>> >>>Damn straig

Rawest raw string literals

2017-04-20 Thread Mikhail V
Quite often I need raw string literals for concatenating console commands. I want to input them exactly as they are in python sources. There is r"" string, but it is obviously not enough because e.g. this: s = r"ffmpeg -i "\\server-01\D\SER_Bigl.mpg" " is not valid. The closest I've found is tr

Re: Rawest raw string literals

2017-04-20 Thread Mikhail V
On 20 April 2017 at 17:44, Mikhail V wrote: > Quite often I need raw string literals for concatenating console commands. > I want to input them exactly as they are in python sources. > > There is r"" string, but it is obviously not enough because e.g. this: > s = r&

Re: Rawest raw string literals

2017-04-20 Thread Mikhail V
On 20 April 2017 at 17:55, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 1:44 AM, Mikhail V wrote: >> What I think: why there is no some built-in function, for example like: >> s = raw("ffmpeg -i "\\server-01\D\SER_Bigl__"") >> >> which would jus

Re: Rawest raw string literals

2017-04-20 Thread Mikhail V
On 20 April 2017 at 17:59, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2017-04-20, Mikhail V wrote: >> Quite often I need raw string literals for concatenating console commands. >> I want to input them exactly as they are in python sources. >> >> There is r"" string, but i

Re: Rawest raw string literals

2017-04-20 Thread Mikhail V
On 20 April 2017 at 19:27, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 2:26 AM, wrote: >> I find this:- >> >> s = r"ffmpeg -i '\\server-01\D\SER_Bigl.mpg' " >> >> vastly superior. > > It's semantically different though. I don't know whether single quotes > are valid in that context, on Wind

Re: Rawest raw string literals

2017-04-20 Thread Mikhail V
On 20 April 2017 at 22:43, Random832 wrote: > On Thu, Apr 20, 2017, at 16:01, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2017-04-20, MRAB wrote: >> > There _is_ a "universal solution"; it's called a Hollerith constant. :-) >> >> Wow, I haven't seen one of those in a _long_ time -- probably about 45 >> years. I

Re: Rawest raw string literals

2017-04-22 Thread Mikhail V
On 20 April 2017 at 18:40, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2017-04-20, Mikhail V wrote: >> On 20 April 2017 at 17:59, Grant Edwards wrote: >>> On 2017-04-20, Mikhail V wrote: >>>> Quite often I need raw string literals for concatenating console commands. >>>>

String escaping utility for Python (was: Rawest raw string literals)

2017-04-22 Thread Mikhail V
On 20 April 2017 at 23:54, MRAB wrote: > On 2017-04-20 22:03, Mikhail V wrote: >> >> On 20 April 2017 at 22:43, Random832 wrote: >>> [snip] >>> >>> The best solution I can think of is to have a text editor designed to >>> parse a strin

Re: String escaping utility for Python (was: Rawest raw string literals)

2017-04-22 Thread Mikhail V
On 23 April 2017 at 00:48, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 8:30 AM, Mikhail V wrote: >> The purpose is simple: reduce manual work to escape special >> characters in string literals (and escape non-ASCII characters). >> >> Simple usage scenario: >

Re: String escaping utility for Python (was: Rawest raw string literals)

2017-04-22 Thread Mikhail V
On 23 April 2017 at 02:33, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Mikhail V wrote: >> On 23 April 2017 at 00:48, Chris Angelico wrote: >>> On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 8:30 AM, Mikhail V wrote: >>>> The purpose is simple: reduce manual work to esc

Re: String escaping utility for Python (was: Rawest raw string literals)

2017-04-23 Thread Mikhail V
On 23 April 2017 at 05:03, MRAB wrote: > On 2017-04-22 23:30, Mikhail V wrote: >> >> On 20 April 2017 at 23:54, MRAB wrote: >> > On 2017-04-20 22:03, Mikhail V wrote: >> >> >> >> On 20 April 2017 at 22:43, Random832 wrote: >> >>> [

Re: Scala considering significant indentation like Python

2017-05-22 Thread Mikhail V
> The creator of Scala, Martin Odersky, has proposed introducing Python-like > significant indentation to Scala and getting rid of braces: > > I was playing for a while now with ways to make Scala's syntax >indentation-based. I always admired the neatness of Python syntax >and also found

python certification

2017-06-08 Thread Gonzalo V
hi, good day. where can i get a python certification? thanks! -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Grapheme clusters, a.k.a.real characters

2017-07-15 Thread Mikhail V
On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 05:50 pm, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Random access to code points is as uninteresting as random access to > UTF-8 bytes. > I might want random access to the "Grapheme clusters, a.k.a.real > characters". What _real_ characters are you referring to? If your data has "á" (U00E1), the

Grapheme clusters, a.k.a.real characters

2017-07-16 Thread Mikhail V
>> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 05:50 pm, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >>> Random access to code points is as uninteresting as random access to >>> UTF-8 bytes. I might want random access to the "Grapheme clusters, >>> a.k.a.real characters". >> >> What _real_ characters are you referring to? >> If your data has "

Grapheme clusters, a.k.a.real characters

2017-07-16 Thread Mikhail V
ChrisA wrote: >On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 2:33 PM, Rustom Mody wrote: >> Right now in an adjacent mailing list (debian) I see someone signed off with >> a >> >> grüß >> >> I guess the third character is a u with some ‘dirt’ >> Whats the fourth? >It's a "sharp S". or "Eszett", is a merge of two s

Grapheme clusters, a.k.a.real characters

2017-07-17 Thread Mikhail V
ChrisA wrote: >Yep! Nobody would take any notice of the fact that you just put dots >on all those letters. It's not like it's going to make any difference >to anything. We're not dealing with matters of life and death here. >Oh wait. >https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1017243/cellphone-l

Grapheme clusters, a.k.a.real characters

2017-07-18 Thread Mikhail V
On 2017-07-18, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > That's neither better nor worse than the system used by English and French, > where letters with dicritics are not distinct letters, but guides to > pronunciation. >_Neither system is right or wrong, or better than the other._ If that is said just "not to

Grapheme clusters, a.k.a.real characters

2017-07-18 Thread Mikhail V
Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >What did you think of my concrete examples, then? (Say, finding >"Alvárez" with the regular expression "Alv[aá]rez".) I think that should match both "Alvarez" and "Alvárez" ...? But firstly, I feel like I need to _guess_ what ideas you are presenting. Unless I open up Vim a

Grapheme clusters, a.k.a.real characters

2017-07-18 Thread Mikhail V
ChrisA wrote: >On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 6:05 AM, Mikhail V wrote: >> On 2017-07-18, Steve D'Aprano wrote: >> >>> That's neither better nor worse than the system used by English and French, >>> where letters with dicritics are not distinct letters, but

Grapheme clusters, a.k.a.real characters

2017-07-19 Thread Mikhail V
Steven D'Aprano wrote: >On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 10:34 am, Mikhail V wrote: >> Ok, in this narrow context I can also agree. >> But in slightly wider context that phrase may sound almost like: >> "neither geometrical shape is better than the other as a basis >> for

Proposed new syntax

2017-08-10 Thread Mikhail V
> > What would you expect this syntax to return? > > [x + 1 for x in (0, 1, 2, 999, 3, 4) while x < 5] > Nice question BTW I'd suppose two possible outcomes: a) It will behave exactly the same as if there was "if" instead of "while" so [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]. b) It will return syntax error, because "whi

File traversing

2012-04-15 Thread Nibin V M
Hello, First of all..I am very new to python with no background in development area! :) Ok, here is my problem.I have opened a file and I need to check each line of that file. I have done it with a while loop. res_own_file = open('/bah') res_own_list = res_own_file.readline() res_tot_list=[]

Re: File traversing

2012-04-16 Thread Nibin V M
Thank you Chris :) ..I will check it... On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Nibin V M wrote: > > res_own_file = open('/bah') > > res_own_list = res_own_file.readline() > > res_tot_list=[] > > w

Re: File traversing

2012-04-17 Thread Nibin V M
wow...thanks Karl :) On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Karl Knechtel wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 5:51 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> >> (You may also want to consider using the 'with' statement to guarantee >> a timely closing of the file. Outside the scope of this mail though.) >> >> I

Re: File traversing

2012-04-17 Thread Nibin V M
;').split(':')[1] for line in res_own_file if ':' in line) print all_res am I missing something? :) On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Nibin V M wrote: > wow...thanks Karl :) > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Karl Knechtel wrote: > >> >> >&g

Re: File traversing

2012-04-17 Thread Nibin V M
thanks for a super fast reply Chris :) On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:31 AM, Nibin V M wrote: > > # python test.py > > File "test.py", line 1 > > with open('/etc/trueuserowners') as res

python and xml

2012-05-16 Thread Nibin V M
Hi, I am trying to use cPanel XML-API and every API call return data in XML format. I would like to know how to manipulate the data here. For eg: How can I read the CPU load data from the below output 0.000.000.00 Thank you, -- Regards Nibin. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: python and xml

2012-05-16 Thread Nibin V M
thank you Stefan. but the XML output is assigned to a variable; how to process the variable with XML contents? On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Stefan Behnel wrote: > Nibin V M, 16.05.2012 16:16: > > I am trying to use cPanel XML-API and every API call return data in XML > >

print XML

2012-05-17 Thread Nibin V M
Hello, I have the following code, which will assign XML data to a variable! What is the best method to write the contents of the variable to a file? === doc = minidom.parse(sys.stdin) === Any help will be highly appreciated! Thank you, -- Regards Nibin. http://TechsWare.in -- h

parse date string having "EDT"

2011-06-20 Thread Junaid P V
I was trying to parse a date string containing "EDT" time zone eg: 'Mon Jun 20 14:00:57 EDT 2011' I tried: datetime.strptime('Mon Jun 20 14:00:57 EDT 2011', '%a %b %d %H:%M:%S %Z %Y') But I get error -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: parse date string having "EDT"

2011-06-21 Thread Junaid P V
Thanks, My script should be platform independent, so I think filtering out time zone info is better. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python 2.7 and cmd on Windows 7 64 (files lost)

2011-06-24 Thread Martin v. Loewis
> Therefore, Windows has a "trick" for mark the file like visible, or not, > in 32 mode. What trick? It's called file system redirection. When you access \windows\system32 in a 32-bit process, you *actually* access \windows\syswow64, which has entirely different files. The same also happens for p

Python 3.2.2rc1

2011-08-14 Thread Martin v. Löwis
nges in 3.2, see http://docs.python.org/3.2/whatsnew/3.2.html To download Python 3.2 visit: http://www.python.org/download/releases/3.2/ Please consider trying Python 3.2 with your code and reporting any bugs you may notice to: http://bugs.python.org/ Enjoy! -- Martin v. Löwis (

Re: Handling 2.7 and 3.0 Versions of Dict

2011-08-31 Thread Martin v. Loewis
y f the distinct method be > evaluated immediately? Yes. > How can I delay building the dict until the first value is requested? Make it a generator: def distinct(iterable, keySelector = (lambda x: x)): lookup = {} for item in iterable: key = keySelector(item) if key

Re: 2to3 and maketrans

2011-03-03 Thread Martin v. Loewis
Am 03.03.2011 07:58, schrieb Gregory Ewing: > What is the recommended way to write code for 2.7 using > maketrans() on text strings in such a way that it will > convert correctly using 2to3? That depends on how you chose to represent text in 2.7. The recommended way for that (also with 3.x in mind

Re: 2to3 and maketrans

2011-03-03 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Am 04.03.2011 03:21, schrieb Dan Stromberg: > > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Martin v. Loewis <mailto:mar...@v.loewis.de>> wrote: > > That depends on how you chose to represent text in 2.7. > The recommended way for that (also with 3.x in mind) > is

Re: 下载 below Download, in python.org site menu

2011-03-06 Thread Martin v. Loewis
Am 06.03.2011 12:18, schrieb Alex Willmer: > On the English version of http://python.org I'm seeing 下载 as a menu > item between Download and Community. AFAICT it's Simplified Chinese > for 'download'. Is it's appearance intentional, or a leak through from > a translation of the entire page? It's i

Re: 下载 below Download, in python.org site menu

2011-03-06 Thread Martin v. Loewis
It's intentional. Notice that it goes to a different URL than the English download link. Which is a synonym for the English download link (/getit is /download at present) Perhaps a translated page is planned? No, translation is not the motivation at all. Chinese readers will know when to u

Re: os.stat bug?

2011-03-21 Thread Martin v. Loewis
> Could it be a problem with the operation system? Is it possible that an > os.stat call requires 100% CPU power from the OS? Or is it a problem > with the Python implementation? There is a chance that the CPU usage actually comes from the thread doing sleep(). If you have a very short sleep time,

Re: PyCObject_FromVoidPtr etc.

2011-03-22 Thread Martin v. Loewis
> Is there a way to keep things (almost) as simple as this using the > 'Capsules' ?? Most certainly. Instead of PyCObject_FromVoidPtr, use PyCapsule_New. Either pass NULL as a name, or the class name for additional type-safety. Instead of PyCObject_AsVoidPtr, use PyCapsule_GetPointer. The only di

Re: "in house" pypi?

2011-03-23 Thread Martin v. Loewis
Am 24.03.2011 04:19, schrieb Miki Tebeka: > Greetings, > > My company want to distribute Python packages internally. We would like > something like an internal PyPi where people can upload and easy_install from > packages. > > Is there such a ready made solution? > I'd like something as simple

Re: Guido rethinking removal of cmp from sort method

2011-03-24 Thread Martin v. Loewis
> The cmp argument doesn't depend in any way on an object's __cmp__ > method, so getting rid of __cmp__ wasn't any good readon to also get > rid of the cmp argument So what do you think about the cmp() builtin? Should have stayed, or was it ok to remove it? If it should have stayed: how should it

Re: Determining version of OpenSSL

2011-04-04 Thread Martin v. Loewis
> import ssl > ssl.OPENSSL_VERSION > > is there a way that this can be done in python2.4? It's annoying but I > need to support python2.4 for a while yet :-( ldd /usr/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/_ssl.so [...] libssl.so.0.9.8 => /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.8 (0x7f6a5a9b7000) [...] HTH, Marti

Re: Sandboxed Python: memory limits?

2011-04-06 Thread Martin v. Loewis
> I have a vague memory of reading somewhere that it's possible to > replace the Python memory allocator. This would be an option, if > there's no simple way to say "your maximum is now 16MB", but I now > can't find it back. Was I hallucinating? You can adjust the implementations of PyMem_Malloc a

Re: Sandboxed Python: memory limits?

2011-04-07 Thread Martin v. Loewis
Am 07.04.2011 02:06, schrieb Chris Angelico: > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Martin v. Loewis wrote: >> You can adjust the implementations of PyMem_Malloc and PyObject_Malloc. >> This would catch many allocations, but not all of them. If you adjust >> PyMem_MALLOC instead

Re: looking for libpython31.a 64bit (missing from python-3.1.3.amd64.msi)

2011-04-13 Thread Martin v. Loewis
Am 13.04.2011 10:17, schrieb Nathan Coulson: > Well, as the subject says, I am looking to find libpython31.a > [win64bit version] for use in a linux to windows 64bit cross compiler > [x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc], but seems to be missing. I wouldn't call it "missing", but "just not there". I had no i

Re: Feature suggestion -- return if true

2011-04-17 Thread Martin v. Loewis
>> be expanded to >> >>_temp = expr >>if _temp: return _temp > > This could be simplified to just: > > return expr or None > """ No, it can't be simplified in this way. If there is code after that snippet, then it will get executed in the original version if _temp is false, but won't get

[ANN] Python 2.5.6 Release Candidate 1

2011-04-17 Thread Martin v. Löwis
lease, Martin Martin v. Loewis mar...@v.loewis.de Python Release Manager (on behalf of the entire python-dev team) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [ANN] Python 2.5.6 Release Candidate 1

2011-04-18 Thread Martin v. Loewis
Am 18.04.2011 09:59, schrieb Werner F. Bruhin: > On 04/17/2011 11:57 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: >> >> http://www.python.org/2.5.6 > Just FYI, getting a 404 error on the above. Thanks. There had been a number of glitches which have been corrected. If anything l

Re: [ANN] Python 2.5.6 Release Candidate 1

2011-04-19 Thread Martin v. Loewis
> Thanks Martin, I'm glad these older releases are still getting important > fixes. > > I notice http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.5.6/NEWS.txt says the > release date was 17 Apr 2010. Presumably that should have said 2011. Thanks for pointing it out. I fixed it in the repository, so it

Re: multiple Python 2.7 Windows installations

2011-04-19 Thread Martin v. Loewis
> I tried to create another 2.7 key but regedit wouldn't let me. > So, if I can only have one 2.7 key, it would seem that the routine > GetPythonVersions will only ever get 1 version of 2.7. > Does this mean that it is unsupported to have more than one Python 2.7 > installation on Windows? Exactly

Re: When is PEP necessary?

2011-04-23 Thread Martin v. Loewis
Am 23.04.2011 14:16, schrieb Disc Magnet: > Is PEP necessary to add a new package to the standard library? A PEP is necessary if the proposed change is contentious. If there is widespread agreement that the change is desirable, no PEP is needed. > What if the community just wants to add a new mod

Re: minimal python27.dll?

2011-04-27 Thread Martin v. Loewis
Am 27.04.2011 12:43, schrieb est: > Hi guys, > > I need to ship python runtime environment package on Windows, if I > want to stripping unnessasery functions from python27.dll to make it > as small as possible(and perhaps finally UPX it), which parts of > python27.dll do you think can be removed?

Re: Python wide-python-build unicode for Windows

2011-04-29 Thread Martin v. Loewis
> But how could i do this in Windows. It's not supported. Hopefully, it will be supported in Python 3.3, due to PEP 393. Regards, Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: minimal python27.dll?

2011-05-01 Thread Martin v. Loewis
> I have vague recollections that pythonXY.dll could not be statically > linked on Windows, or that doing so causes some serious loss of > functionality. Was this ever true, and is it still? You'll have to rebuild Python to make use of static linkage, of course, but then: it is certainly possible

Re: minimal python27.dll?

2011-05-01 Thread Martin v. Loewis
> On the CJK issue, why python ship its own codec, not using OS builtin? The OS doesn't provide all the codecs that Python provides. For the one it does provide, it behaves semantically different in border cases from the ones that come with Python. > If I don't need the full Unicode5.1 can I just

[ANN] Python 2.5.6 released

2011-05-27 Thread Martin v. Löwis
ssues, please see: http://www.python.org/2.5.6 Highlights of the previous major Python releases are available from the Python 2.5 page, at http://www.python.org/2.5/highlights.html Enjoy this release, Martin Martin v. Loewis mar...@v.loewis.de Python Release Manager (on behalf of the entire p

what is the best qr package

2018-03-07 Thread Subramanian P V
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in multiprocessing pool map how to stop one process from executing ahead

2018-03-20 Thread Subramanian P V
I am excecting custom commands like shell on multiple linux hosts. and if in one host one of the commands fail. I want that process not to proceed. If the remote command throws an error i am logging it .. but the process goes to next command . but if i terminate the command, the process will t

Re: Custom Python import module failed (protobuf)

2018-04-20 Thread Sankar Raman V
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