On 1 April 2017 at 18:00, Steve D'Aprano <steve+pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote: > On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 12:17 pm, Rick Johnson wrote: > >> Most people just quietly change the filename and move on > > > There are over a billion people in China, almost a billion more in India, > about 140 million people in Russia, nearly 130 million people in Japan, 250 > million in Indonesia, about 290 million native Arabic speakers, and even 9 > million speakers of Hebrew. >
Well, this is obvious, different characters in different parts of the world, ministries of education, etc. But will the sky fall if people name files using latin letters? Look, I am Russian, nothing to do with Ugly American :) At my work I quietly change all filenames to translit. This is for _simplification_ of all automation processes and some other purposes. It makes my work with digital materials seamless and as a positive side-effect makes it easier for external service-providers to avoid different surprises. So it is _not_ in the first place because some software cope badly with unicode, but because it is natural and logical to use same glyphs for any language (but strangely, many have difficulties with understanding this, well.. the time has not come yet, let's wait few hundreds years more) BTW, why do you think people in China do not want to use latin letters? I suppose there are a lot of haters for those bizarre systems among natives and indeed, many people stay illiterate simply because it is too hard to learn and many have problems reading those. Let's go back in Europe, e.g. in Germany there were many movements against those silly spelling rules and many younger people ignore those in informal writing, e.g. they write 'were' intead of 'wäre', 'fur' instead of 'für' and do not capitalise nouns, and they are damn right about it. So this all is just your personal view on the problem. This reminds me of one anecdote: A Pole and a Russian talk about languages: Russian: our language is better, we have more letters in our alphabet! Pole: no, ours is better - we have more grammatical cases! Also I never install any language packages with software and use only english versions, anyway most tutorials will be in english and one can't force developers to make turorials with screenshots for all languages. And english UI looks for me always better and more intuitive. > One of the excellent ways the PUAs have been used is by > medieval researchers. They have been collecting the various > special characters used by medieval scribes, and by private > agreement putting them into a PUA area where special > purpose software can use it. That way they can determine > which of the thousands of special characters used by > medieval monks are actually significant enough to graduate > to genuine Unicode characters, and which are best handled > some other way. Now I don't see who wrote this ^ initially. Suppose Steve? So IMO this is not an 'exellent' way. If I want to make e.g. analysis of Voynich manuscript, I'll do following: extract/draw glyphs and encode them, say with integers 0..26. And all rendering and analysis will be performed on those integers. For multiple-alphabet rendering I will use some custom text format, e.g. with tags <s="Voynich"> ... </s>, and for latin <s="Latin">...</s> and etc. Simple and effective. Mikhail -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
