On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 at 06:47, Grant Edwards via Python-list
wrote:
> I would be tempted to try monkey-patching the float class to override
> the __format__ method. I have no idea what side effects that might
> have, or if it's even used by the various formatting mechanisms, so
>
We see you Peter
AK
On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 2:41 PM Peter J. Holzer via Python-list <
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> [Replying to the list *and* Grant]
>
> On 2024-02-17 19:38:04 -0500, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
> > Today I noticed that nothing I've poste
On 2024-02-18, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote:
> [Replying to the list *and* Grant]
>
> On 2024-02-17 19:38:04 -0500, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
>> Today I noticed that nothing I've posted to python-list in past 3
>> weeks has shown up on the list.
>
I can't explain the delays, but will note that the gate-news program on the
server runs every 5 minutes via cron. There are multiple moving parts in
the overall system. You'll probably get a more useful answer from
postmas...@python.org.
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On 2/18/2024 6:09 PM, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
On 2024-02-18, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote:
[Replying to the list *and* Grant]
On 2024-02-17 19:38:04 -0500, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
Today I noticed that nothing I've posted to python-list in past 3
week
e compiler able to draw:
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Hellow Grant,
On Sat, 2024-02-17 at 18:54 -0600, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
>
> Today I noticed that nothing I've posted to python-list in past 3
> weeks has shown up on the list. I don't know how to troubleshoot this
> other than sending test messages. Obviousl
dn wrote:
> On 18/02/24 09:53, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
> > On 2024-02-17, Cameron Simpson via Python-list
> > wrote:
> >> On 16Feb2024 22:12, Chris Green wrote:
> >>> I'm looking for a simple way to make NaN values output as something
>
Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2024-02-16, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
>
> > I'm looking for a simple way to make NaN values output as something
> > like '-' or even just a space instead of the string 'nan'.
>
> It would probably help if yo
ss that in future I'll wait a couple days before I assume
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On 2/19/2024 9:17 AM, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
On 2024-02-19, Thomas Passin wrote:
About 24 hours later, all of my posts (and the confirmation e-mails)
all showed up in a burst at the same time on two different unrelated
e-mail accounts.
I still have no clue what was going on
s kinda like greylisting to me. I'm pretty sure that's one of the tool
in the mail.python.org chain.
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On 2024-02-19, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
> It's using f'{...}' at the moment.
Here's a demonstration of how to hook custom code into the f-string
formatting engine. It's brilliantly depraved.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/55876683/hook-into-the-bu
as_list in alias_mapping.items()
AttributeError: 'Figure' object has no attribute 'items'
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How do I extract the values
from args?
SGA
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Sent: Friday, February 23,
2024 9:27 PM
To: python-list@python.org
Subject: Re: Problem resizing
a window and button placement
On 2024-02-24 01:14, Steve GS
via Python-list
Cc: MRAB
;
python-list@python.org
Subject: Re: Problem resizing
a window and button placement
> On 24 Feb 2024, at 04:36,
Steve GS via Python-list
wrote:
>
> How do I extract the values
> from args?
You can look up the args in
documentation.
You can run the example code
MRAB prov
On 2/24/2024 3:20 AM, Steve GS via Python-list wrote:
Yes, I ran that elegantly
simple code. The print
statement reports the X, Y,
Height and Width values.
However, I do not see how to
capture the width value.
I experimented with the code
Vwidth = rootV.winfo_width()
and it also reports the
On 2024-02-24, MRAB via Python-list wrote:
> On 2024-02-24 01:14, Steve GS via Python-list wrote:
>
>> Python, Tkinter: How do I determine if a window has been resized? I
>> want to locate buttons vertically along the right border and need
>> to know the new width. The
e code, it
keeps coming up as not
declared. In other functions,
I can 'return' the variable
but that apparently would not
work for this function.
Is this type of function any
different that that which I
have been using?
SGA
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gure)
print("WwOutside = <" +
str(Ww) + ">")
#NameError: name 'Ww' is not
defined
root.mainloop()
SGA
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2024 7:49 PM
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Subject: Re: Problem r
On 2/24/2024 9:51 PM, Steve GS via Python-list wrote:
First of all, please make sure that the formatting is readable and
especially the indentation. This is Python, after all.
Do not use tabs; use 3 or 4 spaces instead of each tab.
import tkinter as tk
#global Ww Neither global
helps
def
The print statement in the
function prints.
Does that not mean that the
function is being called?
SGA
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Sent: Saturday, February 24,
2024 10:39 PM
To: python-list@python.org
Subject: Re: Problem resizing
a
So, how do I use the width value in my code?
SGA
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To: python-list@python.org
Subject: Re: Problem resizing a window and button placement
On 2024-02-25 02:51, Steve GS wrote
On 25/02/2024 03:58, Steve GS via Python-list wrote:
import tkinter as tk
Ww = None
def on_configure(*args):
global Ww
Ww = root.winfo_width()
print("Ww Inside = <" + str(Ww) + ">")
root = tk.Tk()
root.bind('', on_configure)
root.mainloo
ot sure how this help[s.
As a curio, it would be interesting to see how to use the value of a variable,
created in the function used here, and make it available to the code outside
the function.
SGA
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Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2024 12:44 PM
To:
On 2/25/2024 4:19 PM, Steve GS via Python-list wrote:
SOLUTION FOUND!
The fix was to write the code that uses the width value and to place it into
the function itself.
Kluge? Maybe but it works.
Right, just what I wrote earlier:
"have the function that responds to the resize event pe
Ww Inside = <250>
Ww Inside = <249>
Ww Inside = <250>
Ww Outside =
<1770662408256on_configure>
Here is my result...
SGA
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Sent: Sunday, February 25,
2024 6:40 PM
To: python-list@python.
that discovery
element: Why is my original
idea not working? I still
cannot pass the value back
from the function. What is
different about this function
that others would have given
me the value?
SGA
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On 26/02/2024 07:56, Steve GS via Python-list wrote:
> Then there is that discovery
> element: Why is my original
> idea not working? I still
> cannot pass the value back
> from the function. What is
> different about this function
> that others would have given
> me the
quot;)
# Can I have concentric loops?
SGA
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From: Alan Gauld
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2024 4:04 AM
To: Steve GS ; python-list@python.org
Subject: Re: RE: Problem resizing a window and button placement
On 26/02/2024 07:56, Steve GS via Python-list wrote:
> Th
On 26/02/2024 11:02, Steve GS via Python-list wrote:
> Although your code produces the value of Ww outside the function,
> I do not see how I can use the value of Ww unless I close the program.
You have to use a function that operates inside the mainloop.
Thats the nature of event
On 2/26/2024 6:02 AM, Steve GS via Python-list wrote:
Although your code produces the value of Ww outside the function, I do not see
how I can use the value of Ww unless I close the program.
The configuration event hasn't fired at the time you include the print
statement in the handler&
de
your handler.
How would that be done?
SGA
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Sent: Monday, February 26,
2024 8:34 AM
To: python-list@python.org
Subject: Re: Problem resizing
a window and button placement
On 2/26/2024 6:02 AM, Steve GS
via
On 27/02/2024 07:13, Steve GS via Python-list wrote:
> Aside from using it to resized
> the window, is there no way to
> know the last value of the
> change for use in the program?
The last value would be the current width.
And you know how to get that as shown in
your configure f
idate)
for j, b in enumerate(answer)
)
)
This is not correct. score((1,1,1), (1,1,2)) gives (2,4). According to
the usual rules of Mastermind, it should be (2, 0).
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My window is to have a label
over an image. How do I place
a label that has a transparent
background so as to not have
the square of the label look
so obnoxious?
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'Hairy'}]
How are you feeling?
#for $person in $people
$person['name'] is $person['mood']
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anks if you have any ideas/thoughts on the matter
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;l1 =", l1)
print("outside, x =", x, "l1 =", l1)
f1()
print("outside after f1, x =", x, "l1 =", l1)
f2()
print("outside after f2, x =", x, "l1 =", l1)
Cheers,
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On 2024-03-05, Cameron Simpson via Python-list wrote:
> Because there are no variable definitions in Python, when you write
> a function Python does a static analysis of it to decide which
> variables are local and which are not. If there's an assignment to a
> variable, it is
[image: image.png]
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On 3/5/24 16:06, Chano Fucks via Python-list wrote:
[image: image.png]
The image is of MS-Windows with the python installation window of "Repair Successful". Hopefully somebody better at
explaining that problem can take it from here...
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On 3/5/24 16:49, MRAB via Python-list wrote:
> On 2024-03-06 00:24, Ethan Furman via Python-list wrote:
>> On 3/5/24 16:06, Chano Fucks via Python-list wrote:
>>
>>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> The image is of MS-Windows with the python installation window
On 3/5/24 18:44, Ethan Furman via Python-list wrote:
On 3/5/24 16:49, MRAB via Python-list wrote:
> On 2024-03-06 00:24, Ethan Furman via Python-list wrote:
>> On 3/5/24 16:06, Chano Fucks via Python-list wrote:
>>
>>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> The im
On 05/03/2024 22:46, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
> Unfortunately (presumably thanks to SEO) the enshittification of
> Google has reached the point where searching for info on things like
> Python name scope, the first page of links are to worthless sites like
> geeksforgeeks.
from scratch seems to then ignore the global scope specified in
the first line inside the function?
Hope this makes more sense
Jacob Kruger
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On 2024/03/05 20:23, dn via Python-list wrote:
Jacob,
Please reduce the prob
new values from scratch seems to then ignore the global scope
specified in the first line inside the function?
Hope this makes more sense
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On 2024/03/05 20:23, dn via Python-list wrote:
Jacob,
P
On 3/6/24 05:55, Jacob Kruger via Python-list wrote:
Ok, simpler version - all the code in a simpler test file, and working
with two separate variables to explain exactly what am talking about:
If you import the contents of that file into the python interpreter,
dt_expiry will start off as
On 3/6/2024 5:59 AM, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote:
On 05/03/2024 22:46, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
Unfortunately (presumably thanks to SEO) the enshittification of
Google has reached the point where searching for info on things like
Python name scope, the first page of links are
On 3/6/2024 7:55 AM, Jacob Kruger via Python-list wrote:
Ok, simpler version - all the code in a simpler test file, and working
with two separate variables to explain exactly what am talking about:
# start code
from datetime import datetime, timezone, timedelta
from copy import copy
On 2024-03-06, MRAB via Python-list wrote:
> On 2024-03-06 01:44, Ethan Furman via Python-list wrote:
>> On 3/5/24 16:49, MRAB via Python-list wrote:
>> > On 2024-03-06 00:24, Ethan Furman via Python-list wrote:
>> >> On 3/5/24 16:06, Chano Fucks via Python-list
Op 6/03/2024 om 13:55 schreef Jacob Kruger via Python-list:
If you import the contents of that file into the python interpreter, [...]
What exactly to you mean by "import the contents of that file into the
python interpreter"? Other people have put your code in a script,
executed i
Op 6/03/2024 om 16:39 schreef Roel Schroeven via Python-list:
Op 6/03/2024 om 13:55 schreef Jacob Kruger via Python-list:
If you import the contents of that file into the python interpreter,
[...]
What exactly to you mean by "import the contents of that file into the
python interp
ss?
So, yes, know this comes across like some form of a scam/joke, or
list-garbage, since it doesn't make any sense to me at all, but still
just wondering if missing something, or should I shift over to 3.12 to
see if if works differently, or just try reinstalling 3.11 from scratch,
or should I re
e same ID would be retained
both inside and outside function.
Jacob Kruger
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On 2024/03/06 15:57, Mats Wichmann via Python-list wrote:
On 3/6/24 05:55, Jacob Kruger via Python-list wrote:
Ok, simpler version - all
, via command line - generally
working with flask, and/or other forms of command line interaction, most
of the time.
Jacob Kruger
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On 2024/03/06 17:39, Roel Schroeven via Python-list wrote:
Op 6/03/2024 om 13:55 schre
On 3/6/24 08:28, Jacob Kruger via Python-list wrote:
> C:\temp\py_try>python
> Python 3.11.7 (tags/v3.11.7:fa7a6f2, Dec 4 2023, 19:24:49) [MSC v.1937 64
bit (AMD64)] on win32
> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more inform
2 413 4791
"Resistance is futile!...Acceptance is versatile..."
On 2024/03/06 18:57, Ethan Furman via Python-list wrote:
On 3/6/24 08:28, Jacob Kruger via Python-list wrote:
> C:\temp\py_try>python
> Python 3.11.7 (tags/v3.11.7:fa7a6f2, Dec 4 2023, 19:24:49) [MSC
v.1937 64 bit (A
Op 6/03/2024 om 17:40 schreef Jacob Kruger via Python-list:
>>> from scoping2 import *
Ah yes, that explains what's happening. After that statement, the name
dt_expiry in the current namespace is bound to the same object that the
name dt_expiry in the namespace of module scopin
On 2024-03-06, Roel Schroeven via Python-list wrote:
> Op 6/03/2024 om 17:40 schreef Jacob Kruger via Python-list:
>> >>> from scoping2 import *
>
> [...]
>
> I would advice not to use 'import *', if at all possible, for multiple
> reasons, on
Grant Edwards via Python-list schreef op 6/03/2024 om 18:59:
On 2024-03-06, Roel Schroeven via Python-list
wrote:
> Op 6/03/2024 om 17:40 schreef Jacob Kruger via Python-list:
>> >>> from scoping2 import *
>
> [...]
>
> I would advice not to use 'import *&
On 2024-03-07, dn via Python-list wrote:
> The idea of importing a module into the REPL and then (repeatedly)
> manually entering the code to set-up and execute is unusual (surely type
> such into a script (once), and run that (repeatedly). As you say, most
> of us would be wor
prefer to work via classes, modules, etc. at
runtime, but this was more or less mostly testing, which then caused
confusion/interference on my side...LOL!
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On 2024/03/07 03:55, Grant Edwards via Python-l
If a dictionary key has a Python list as its value, you can read the values
one by one in the list using a for-loop like in the following.
d = {k: [1,2,3]}
> for v in d[k]:
> print(v)
No tutorial describes this, why?
What is the Python explanation for this behaviour?
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On 3/7/24 07:11, Varuna Seneviratna via Python-list wrote:
If a dictionary key has a Python list as its value, you can read the values
one by one in the list using a for-loop like in the following.
d = {k: [1,2,3]}
for v in d[k]:
print(v)
No tutorial describes this, why?
What is the
rt `f` and use it in another module it will _still_ update
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On 2024-03-07, Cameron Simpson via Python-list wrote:
> Yes. Note that the "global" namespace is the module in which the
> function is defined.
One might argue that "global" isn't a good choice for what to call the
scope in question, since it's not global.
On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 at 00:51, Grant Edwards via Python-list
wrote:
> One might argue that "global" isn't a good choice for what to call the
> scope in question, since it's not global. It's limited to that source
> file. It doesn't make sense to me to call
On 2024-03-08, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 at 00:51, Grant Edwards via Python-list
> wrote:
>
>> One might argue that "global" isn't a good choice for what to call the
>> scope in question, since it's not global. It's l
On 3/8/2024 1:03 PM, Albert-Jan Roskam via Python-list wrote:
Hi,
I was replacing some os.path stuff with Pathlib and I discovered this:
Path(256 * "x").is_file() # OSError
os.path.isfile(256 * "x") # bool
Is this intended? Does pathlib try to resemble o
On 2024-03-08, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
> On 3/8/2024 1:03 PM, Albert-Jan Roskam via Python-list wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I was replacing some os.path stuff with Pathlib and I discovered this:
>> Path(256 * "x").is_file() # OSError
>>
On 2024-03-08, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
> On 2024-03-08, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
>> On 3/8/2024 1:03 PM, Albert-Jan Roskam via Python-list wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I was replacing some os.path stuff with Pathlib and I discovered this:
>
On 2024-03-08, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
>> OSError: [Errno 36] File name to
On 3/8/2024 2:21 PM, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
On 2024-03-08, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
On 3/8/2024 1:03 PM, Albert-Jan Roskam via Python-list wrote:
Hi,
I was replacing some os.path stuff with Pathlib and I discovered this:
Path(256 * "x"
On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 at 03:42, Grant Edwards via Python-list
wrote:
>
> On 2024-03-08, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
> > On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 at 00:51, Grant Edwards via Python-list
> > wrote:
> >
> >> One might argue that "global" isn't
On 3/8/2024 5:14 PM, Albert-Jan Roskam wrote:
On Mar 8, 2024 19:35, Thomas Passin via Python-list
wrote:
On 3/8/2024 1:03 PM, Albert-Jan Roskam via Python-list wrote:
> Hi,
> I was replacing some os.path stuff with Pathlib and I
discovered this:
>
On 2024-03-08, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
>
>> Hi, I tested this with Python 3.8. Good to know that this was fixed!
>
> We just learned a few posts back that it might be specific to Linux; I
> ran it on Windows.
On Linux, the limit is imposed by the filesystem.
On 3/10/2024 6:17 AM, Barry wrote:
On 8 Mar 2024, at 23:19, Thomas Passin via Python-list
wrote:
We just learned a few posts back that it might be specific to Linux; I ran it
on Windows.
Depending on the exact win32 api used there is a 257 limit on windows.
The 257 includes 2 for the
On 3/10/2024 9:33 AM, Albert-Jan Roskam wrote:
On Mar 10, 2024 12:59, Thomas Passin via Python-list
wrote:
On 3/10/2024 6:17 AM, Barry wrote:
>
>
>> On 8 Mar 2024, at 23:19, Thomas Passin via Python-list
wrote:
>>
>> We just learn
On 10/03/2024 18:08, Sanskar Mukeshbhai Joshi via Python-list wrote:
> I had made my project in BCA in Python. When I had complete my
> project and run the program, at that time I got the error in
> runnig my project. The error was ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'flask'
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On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 at 07:54, Ivan "Rambius" Ivanov via Python-list
wrote:
> I am refactoring some code and I would like to get rid of a global
> variable. Here is the outline:
>
> ...
>
> I have never done that in Python because I deliberately avoided such
> comp
d to
> track what and when modifies them. I don't consider them bad, but if I
> can I avoid them.
>
If you have a singleton, how will you track "what and when modifies"
it? How is it any different from a global?
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ore clutter to the code.
However, with a view to asking forgiveness rather than
permission, is there some simple way just to assign the dictionary
elements which do in fact exist to self-variables?
Or should I be doing this completely differently?
Cheers,
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On 3/15/24 03:30, Loris Bennett via Python-list wrote:
Hi,
I am initialising an object via the following:
self.source_name = config['source_name']
config.get('source_name', default_if_not_defined) is a common technique...
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On 3/15/2024 5:30 AM, Loris Bennett via Python-list wrote:
Hi,
I am initialising an object via the following:
def __init__(self, config):
self.connection = None
self.source_name = config['source_name']
self.server_host = config[&#
On 2024-03-15, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
> On 3/15/2024 5:30 AM, Loris Bennett via Python-list wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am initialising an object via the following:
>>
>> def __init__(self, config):
>>
>> self.connection = N
On 3/15/2024 3:09 PM, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
On 2024-03-15, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
On 3/15/2024 5:30 AM, Loris Bennett via Python-list wrote:
Hi,
I am initialising an object via the following:
def __init__(self, config):
self.connection = None
On 2024-03-15 at 15:48:17 -0400,
Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
> [...] And I suppose there is always the possibility that sometime in
> the future an "or" clause like that will be changed to return a
> Boolean, which one would expect anyway.
Not only is the curren
On 3/15/2024 5:33 PM, Dan Sommers via Python-list wrote:
On 2024-03-15 at 15:48:17 -0400,
Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
[...] And I suppose there is always the possibility that sometime in
the future an "or" clause like that will be changed to return a
Boolean, which one wo
of control.
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Subject: Re: Configuring an object via a dictionary
On 2024-03-15 at 15:48:17 -0400,
Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
> [...] And I sup
Barry via Python-list schreef op 16/03/2024 om 9:15:
> On 15 Mar 2024, at 19:51, Thomas Passin via Python-list
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> I've always like writing using the "or" form and have never gotten bit
I, on the other hand, had to fix a production problem that using “or”
i
On 3/16/2024 8:12 AM, Roel Schroeven via Python-list wrote:
Barry via Python-list schreef op 16/03/2024 om 9:15:
> On 15 Mar 2024, at 19:51, Thomas Passin via Python-list
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> > I've always like writing using the "or" form and have never gotten
bit
I, on the
Will it be recorded?
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Actually, I have a sleep disorder that requires me to keep a constant sleep
schedule. Thats why I asked.
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> On 17/03/24 23:40, Jim Schwartz wrote:
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> Bett
alpha, _, _ = dict_to_vars(**mydict)
The above is really just keeping alpha.
Of course if the possible keys are not known in advance, this does not work but
other languages that allow this may be better for your purpose.
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