On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:57:27 GMT, rumours say that rzed
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[Why did PEP 275 stall?]
>It seems to me that it was regarded as misguidod.
QOTPE +1
(PE=Python Era)
Oncoming Python book: "Hitchhiker's Guido to the Python Language"
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ron" [1]. Now, if only you people wrote the plural of
"parenthesis" as "parentheseis" and not "parentheses", that would ease a
lot my Greek English... :)
[1] through the French "mètre" of course; great job, those
revolutionaries did with the metric s
ates) a huge sequence.
>
> for i in (x[0] for x in something):
and for some functional fun:
from itertools import imap
from operator import itemgetter
for i in imap(itemgetter(0), something):
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as well, or will a mastery of the language be sufficient?
I think having a katana next to your keyboard will suffice to give the
*impression* you have mastered enough of the japanese culture, Peter :)
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use:
yourTextWidget.insert(Tkinter.END, data) # to insert the data
yourRootWindow.update_idletasks() # to update the GUI
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ythouse" and "Python 10" were over. I'm glad that
finally others, too, really grok the "joy of Python programming".
PS I just *love* the Classes chapter centerfold. All-time classic.
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lso noted sometime in a humourous article AFAIR.)
In current Greek hexadecimal is "ÎÎÏÎ" ("dekaexadikon").
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x27;
s.itoa(13,4) should result in '31'
s.itoa(12,4) should result in '30'
s.itoa(8,4) should result in '20'
s.atoi('4', 3) should fail
s.atoi('13', 4) should result in 7
s.atoi('12', 4) should result in 6
s.atoi('8', 4) shou
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:23:42 +0100, rumours say that "Fredrik Lundh"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> might have written:
>Christos TZOTZIOY Georgiou wrote:
>
>>>the function's named "atoi", not "atoitoa".
>>
>>
[Fredrik] [0]
>cool. can
... :)
Just in case it didn't show up correctly in your ng/mail client, it does
on groups.google.com (the post was in UTF-8, dammit! --excuse my romance
language)
message link (long URL):
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/b20fc159a4f0e14a>
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>
>http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2005-February/030720.html
>
>is a bit scary. I wonder from where I was posting that?
And this post is what I was referring to with "again".
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.__get__(7)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in -toplevel-
f= divmod.__get__(7)
AttributeError: 'builtin_function_or_method' object has no attribute
'__get__'
I didn't run an extensive test, but it's possible that all builtin
functions
;\n'.join(map(str, range(2
|testfile.close()
|
|# now iterate over four line groups
|
|for bunch_o_lines in line_groups( open(testname1), line_count=4):
|print repr(bunch_o_lines),
|print
|
|for bunch_o_lines in line_groups( open(testname2), line_count=4):
|
m moving to
previous lines and pressing Enter, do you know about Alt-P and Alt-N?
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value 1.
PS this might confuse you, but in python, all function calls are by value, and
all values passed are references to objects.
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=group%3Acomp.lang.python+value+reference
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make a symbolic link, you probably want to use os.symlink()
and not os.link(), but that seems to be the least of your troubles.
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I really should keep that in mind when talkin
at oh-so-friendly search dog on day 2 of acquainting myself
with Windows XP last September, so I can't readily say where is the setting if
your dog is enabled, but if your dog is dead too, it's under Advanced Options:
Search system folders.
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&qu
o change his name to a more
pythonic one, but now I see he misinterpreted the advice.
Am I assimilated or what?
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I really should keep that in mind when talking with people, actuall
winamp
through COM (if you can't find it, let me know by email, I'll send it to you).
Much less hassle than my initial attempts to control it with SendMessage and
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all over the place until that
>happened.
Those were pure perl scripts. This will be a Perl python script, so no problem.
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> * Otherwise, the function should return False.
[Stevbe]
>If you wanted to get clever you could write something like
>
>for i in True, False:
> if i in lst:
> return i
>return False
[!Steve]
You mistyped None as False in the last line. Your typos are getting worse ever
ive prompt:
>>> type(help)
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Dict()
>exec data in {}, d
>print d.items()
For kids trying this at home, note that it only works if the descriptor
is a valid Python identifier.
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o find out what it's called is to ask
>all your neighbours (namespaces) if it's their cat (object) ... and
>don't be surprised if you'll find that it's known by many names, or no
>name at all!"
Whom should we bug to add it?
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On 23 Jun 2005 19:12:03 -0700, rumours say that "jean-marc"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> might have written:
>So I wish it and its author(s) a good day, week, month, year and more!
>Really!
That is, "So long and thanks for all the PIL."
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and I had no problem. What happens for you (substitute other server and
email addresses, obviously :) ?
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and I had no problem. What happens for you (substitute other server and
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BTW you don't have a
newline before "Ubicación:"; is it intentional?)
Tabs are infamous confusers of email clients, unfortunately.
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(even better, read :) the rest of Andrea's paragraph, it
would be obvious that you actually agree with Andrea.
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the PSF could sell Python-branded
shampoos named "poetry in lotion" etc.
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Size, Width.
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On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:46:01 +0300, rumours say that Christos "TZOTZIOY"
Georgiou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> might have written:
>(kudos to Steve Holden for
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] where the term PIPO
>(Poetry In, Poetry Out) could be born)
oops! kudos to Michael Spencer (I never sa
aced
>directly with names's byte code contents at compile time.
>
>Defer could be shortened to def I suppose, but I think defer would be
>clearer. Anyway, it's only a wish list item for now.
This is similar:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/6fc88414
no keyboard shortcut to scroll:
http://www.xvsxp.com/power_user/terminal/
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"winampcom")
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ble libraries and more advanced developement tools.
More advanced development tools, yes. More available libraries?
Perhaps.
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ew that would love Forth only for that.
The perfect language for many kids I know would be Python with boolean
operators reversed. Oh, and 'print' should be 'do_NOT_print'.
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oject name is pretty offensive too, since it's related to the term
"Sun" and not the term "Java".
If one has heard of the differences between Sun and IBM about Java, and
knowing that Eclipse started as an IBM project, then the reasoning for
choosing the name "Eclipse"
algorithm. I think some
>character are strange for python, and makes it stop before the end of
>the .msg file.
FYI: the character that was strange for Windows (not Python) was
chr(26), or Ctrl-Z, or end-of-file, which is special for files opened as
text instead of binary.
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Then surely it should have been "its" first attempt? Aren't piranhas
neutral?
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se.
There aren't any non-posix-conformant --or, at least, any
non-self-described-as-posix-conformant :-)-- operating systems in wide
use today.
Hint: win32file.CreateHardLink
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er dbs?
>
>You could use ADO + adodbapi for both.
>http://adodbapi.sourceforge.net/
Or pywin32/ctypes and COM (btw, I prefer DAO to ADO, but that is a
personal choice).
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*view* the directory contents using Explorer. Command-line dir had no
problem on a directory with >15000 files.
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stem menu, doesn't it? Talk
about blindness...
>Seems to work for cmd.exe on NT4
XP too.
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On 28 Jun 2005 13:24:42 -0700, rumours say that "muldoon"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> might have written:
> Now, what forum would you recommend? Any help would be appreciated.
alt.usage.english?
alt.languages.english?
alt.english.usage?
uk.culture.language.english?
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I would bet that somewhere in the "Ingliy-spiking werld" both terms
sound exactly the same.
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piler ("Unix" compiler) you
consider as such? Were there other Unix C compilers before K&R wrote
one? Or are you considering as "K&R Unix compilers" those after the
publication of the white book and before C89?
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listens
on port 82 (we're behind a strict firewall), so I don't know if my
following question has a reason to exist, but there we go:
Have you considered basing your module on xdrlib, which is more of a
cross-language standard?
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ename, "rb")
|md5sum= md5.new()
|while True:
|data= fp.read(65536)
|if not data: break
|md5sum.update(data)
|fp.close()
|print md5sum.hexdigest(), filename
It's fast enough, especially if you cache results.
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My first reaction was that "r+" should be "r+b"... but then one presumes that an
mmap'ed file does not care about stdio text-binary conventions (on platforms
that matters).
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d reopening it.
>And last, how do I put program to wait certain amount of seconds ?
>If I remeber correctly I used to type "Wait 10" and QBasic waits
>10 seconds before proceeding to next command.
(A serious answer for a change) Waiting is time related. So import time and
call
ut the context was calculating efficiently checksums for large files
to be /served/ by a webserver. I deduce it's almost certain that the files
won't be larger than 3GiB, but ICBW :)
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wn replies to the this and
the other thread.
BTW, my sincere congratulations for what I presume best computer related April's
Fool joke of all time; I love double-bluffs. The worst of all is I've often
referenced your joke when advocating python... :)
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;hypertext" in '65, and
>Vannevar Bush lucidly explained his vision for textual linking in
>'45. With a little provocation, I can push the ideas of "mechanical"
>or "machine" referencing back at least to the Enlightenment, and
>arguably much farther.
dn't touch the product
>with a virtual ten-foot pole
Are you sure you got the acronym right?-) It seems that VSS provides viRTual
source-safety...
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I really should keep
smith.edu/hsc/museum/ancient_inventions/steamengine2.html
Nice page, this:
http://www.smith.edu/hsc/museum/ancient_inventions/hsclist.htm
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I really should keep that in mi
at you gave it.
Try the following changes:
>I = "Allen"
>me = "Allen"
>my = "Allen's"
to
xyzzy = "I"
footy = "me"
spike = "my"
and then change the last line of the triple-quoted string:
>it was so amazing!""&qu
mation.
>>>> ^D
"Instant porting of any program to python". Smooth.
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then my entry is:
> assert obj+1 >= 1
>:-)
So -1 is not a number.
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um will be more safe since i'm
>still getting they correct.
It's not weird, it's the same in Windows as far as I remember (windows 3.0).
F10 is the same as depressing Alt.
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,
>while c:
>c &= c - 1
>even_odd = not even_odd
>print int( even_odd )
Just for the sake of people who haven't messed with bit manipulation in C or
assembly, the effect of
c &= c - 1
is to reset the rightmost (less significant) '1' bi
malised to a directory called 'www.python.org' in the local subdirectory
'http:'), but still could not on NTFS.
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t this as "reset the rightmost
>bit"
>instead of "reset the rightmost '1' bit". and i must have read what christos
>wrote 100 times!!!
Don't worry, Bryan, I'm probably more to blame, since I have this tendency to
interject parenthesized sub-sent
hash with other files:
calculate full hash
return all files with same full hash
Something like that.
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t; File Object with an unknown size.
You probably need the StringIO (or cStringIO) module. Check the module
reference.
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sys.stderr.write("\r%d" % count)
. return dupefinder
def pprint(obj, level=0):
. """For testing purposes."""
. indent= " "*level
. if isinstance(obj, File):
. print `obj`
. elif isinstance(obj, list):
. print "list"
def __feed_time(self): # I worte this
>self.feed += 1 # I wote this
Because of this:
>feed = property(__get_feed) # I wrote this
which specifies only a 'get' method for the property.
[snip]
feed is a property, and there is not 'set&#
Even if one doesn't use vi for editing, it's easiest with
Idle to remove the dot at the start of every line.
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ented the wheel in
http://www.sil-tec.gr/~tzot/python/IPv4_Utils-0.35.linux-i586.tar.gz
It seems that ipv4 from pynms almost matches the functionality of my module,
except for a function (included_nets): given two hosts/nets, find the minimal
set of networks that include both hosts/nets. Just
t;u'TheBeatleshelpTickettoride'
This works though:
.>> filter(type(s).isalpha, s)
As a function just for clarity.
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ride'
>py> filter(str.isalpha, s)
>Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "", line 1, in ?
>TypeError: descriptor 'isalpha' requires a 'str' object but received a
>'unicode'
>py> ''.join(c for c in s if c.isalpha())
&
bytes,
no spurious control characters etc).
Don't interpret as weakness the explicitness requested from Python.
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ng to drop compatibility with escape sequences, you can use
WConio:
http://newcenturycomputers.net/projects/wconio.html
Other related stuff:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vt100
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ansi.sys
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I look at the documentation
>(http://pmw.sourceforge.net/doc/refindex.html), it doesn't seem to be
>there. Any advice will be much appreciated.
Have you got Idle on your computer? Search the idlelib directory for the
TreeWidget.py file.
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On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 22:52:10 +, rumours say that Michael Hoffman
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>Christos TZOTZIOY Georgiou wrote:
>
>> Argument against your "only" in "you can only use goto":
>>
>> http://www.entrian.com/g
n your case, you can use the find_duplicate_files function with arguments like:
r"\\COMPUTER1\SHARE1", r"\\COMPUTER2\SHARE2" etc
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I really should keep that i
s the way to go.
[snip: import Tkinter fails, probably due to missing package]
Perhaps this page helps:
http://www.python.org/2.4/rpms.html
Otherwise this would show up anything in the cd:
$ find /mnt/cdrom -name \*kinter\* -print
(/mnt/cdrom or whatever the name of the cd mounting directory
e big_file appending to fl the offset each time (if you need help
with this, let me know).
random.shuffle(fl) # this is tested with the filelist.FileList as given
for offset_as_str in fl:
offset= struct.unpack("q", offset_as_str)[0]
big_file.seek(offset)
sys.stdout.write(big_file.
)
is to use the SGI fam (file alteration monitor); I think it has been ported to
Linux. Otherwise, either way you describe is common use. Suggestion: first
check for changes in the st_mtime of the directory, then search for the file
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of the spec.
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_frm/thread/de90435f3e56ab0c/048e292ec9adb82d
The whole thread is about finding duplicate files.
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I really shou
u have ten files less than 100KiB each and one file more than 2 GiB in
size, there is no need to read the 2 GiB file, is there?
If it's a one-shot attempt, I guess it won't mind a lot.
On POSIX filesystems, one has also to avoid comparing files having same (st_dev,
st_inum), because you
Linux).
Have you found any way to test if two files on NTFS are hard linked without
opening them first to get a file handle?
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pen("%s%s%s" % (PREFIX, number, SUFFIX_O), "w")
while 1:
datum= fpi.read(2)
if not datum: break
fpo.write("%5d\n" % struct.unpack("H", datum)) # check endianness!!!
fpi.close()
fpo.close()
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aints on library (itertools
module in this case) expansion when talking about such useful *building blocks*.
What happened to "batteries included"?
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I really should keep that in mind when talking with people, actually...
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t.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/fileio/base/by_handle_file_information_str.asp
The relevant parts from this last page:
st_dev <-> dwVolumeSerialNumber
st_ino <-> (nFileIndexHigh, nFileIndexLow)
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n have a bug here - I consider all files with the same inode equal,
> but according to what you say I need to consider the tuple
>(st_dev,ST_ium). I'll have to fix that for 0.13.
I have a bug here too-- I wrote st_inum meaning st_ino, but that would be quick
to find!
> Thanks ;-)
jections to your objections (-:) other than that we are just trying to produce
something of practical value out of an otherwise doomed thread...
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TZOTZIOY, I speak England very best.
"Be strict when sending and tolerant when receiving." (from RFC1958)
I really should keep that in mind
I have needed enough times in *separate* occasions
to add it in one of my personal "stdlib" modules (hinting it could be part of
itertools):
window('hello', 2) => 'he', 'el', 'll', 'lo'
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of avoiding smart-ass
replies like mine :)
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the only way to go is to parse the
>ftp.retrlines('LIST') command and that seems to be very easy to mess
>up.
>
>any hints?
google brings this up:
http://www.sschwarzer.net/python/ftputil.html
ISTR seeing a parsedate (or similar) for ftp sites by the effbot, but I am not
sure.
ilesystem which is spread over various numbers
>of drives and servers.
I haven't seen one so far; however, is it possible that you could serve your
users through HTTP? I have done so in a similar situation like yours.
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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 10:23:02 +, rumours say that Simon Brunning
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> might have written:
>3.2.5 is a bugfix release of the 2.3 branch
Damn, we're on Python 3 already? Where are all the PEPs I missed?-)
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EEK SMALL LETTER KAPPA}"
or with
.>> uc = unicodedata.lookup("GREEK SMALL LETTER KAPPA")
and you get the ordinal with:
.>> ord(uc)
ord works for strings and unicode.
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e('utf-16') # maybe utf-16be for network order
You should not care about internal encoding of unicode objects.
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NST a_tuple/UNPACK_SEQUENCE/BUILD_TUPLE,
"a,b,c=d,e,f" reordering and dropping of the tuple building/unpacking (which is
a case already improved in C) etc.
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er as pre-built on recent RedHat systems. Does
it also apply to FreeBSD? On Windoze, Mandrake and SuSE python has UCS-2
unicode and Tkinter is working just fine.
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I really should
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