On Monday, December 2, 2013 7:34:33 PM UTC+5:30, Neil Cerutti wrote:
> On 2013-12-02, Roy Smith wrote:
> >> The current situation does force a lot of technology-focused
> >> people, progammers in particular, into a low opinion of Google.
> >> The crappy usenet portal is poor marketing.
> >
> > If
On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 6:45:42 AM UTC+5:30, iMath wrote:
> so is there any way to create a temporary file by Python here ?
http://docs.python.org/2/library/tempfile.html
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On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 7:13:03 AM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote:
> Michael Torrie wrote:
> > I wish Google hadn't bought a lot of things. Seems like they bye up a
> > lot of cool, nerd-centric apps and companies and then turned them into
> > apps that do less and do it poorly, but in a slick w
On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 8:39:02 AM UTC+5:30, Michael Torrie wrote:
> On 12/02/2013 06:43 PM, Roy Smith wrote:
> > And this is surprising, why?
>
> Well back when Google was a young hip company they billed themselves as
> a bunch of nerds making stuff for nerds. But yes we should have seen
> t
On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 5:48:59 PM UTC+5:30, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to extracted elements from a heapq in a for loop.
> I feel my solution below is much too complicated.
> How to do it more elegantly?
> I know I could use a while loop but I don't like it.
How about
def in
On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 9:18:43 PM UTC+5:30, geez...@gmail.com wrote:
> I am trying to solve this problem:
>
> http://codeforces.com/problemset/problem/71/A
>
> The input and output is as wanted, but my answer keep rejected, here is my
> source code http://txt.do/1smv
>
> Please, I need help.
On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 6:10:05 AM UTC+5:30, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> > Dennis Lee Bieber writes:
> > > [NNTP] clients provide full-fledged editors
> >and conversely full-fledged editors provide
> >NNTP clients
> GNU Emacs is a LISP operating system disguised as a word processor.
On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 11:15:05 AM UTC+5:30, Tim Roberts wrote:
> Piotr Dobrogost wrote:
> >
> >Attribute access syntax being very concise is very often preferred
> >to dict's interface.
>
> It is not "very concise". It is slightly more concise.
>
> x = obj.value1
> x = dct['val
On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 2:27:28 PM UTC+5:30, Ian wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 11:31 PM, rusi wrote:
> > Its a more fundamental problem than that:
> > It emerges from the OP's second post) that he wants '-' in the attributes.
> > Is that all?
> &
On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 4:03:14 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:09 PM, rusi wrote:
> > OP wants attribute identifiers like
> > outer_fieldset-inner_fieldset-third_field.
> > Say I have a python expression:
> > obj.outer_fieldset
On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 3:59:06 PM UTC+5:30, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> Op 04-12-13 11:09, rusi schreef:
> > I used the spaces case to indicate the limit of chaos.
> > Other characters (that
> > already have uses) are just as problematic.
>
> I don't agree with
On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 6:02:18 PM UTC+5:30, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> Op 04-12-13 13:01, rusi schreef:
> > On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 3:59:06 PM UTC+5:30, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> >> Op 04-12-13 11:09, rusi schreef:
> >>> I used the spaces case to indicate th
On Thursday, December 5, 2013 8:13:49 AM UTC+5:30, Ian wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:09 AM, rusi wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 2:27:28 PM UTC+5:30, Ian wrote:
> >> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 11:31 PM, rusi wrote:
> >> > Its a more fundamental problem tha
On Thursday, December 5, 2013 3:44:50 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Herrmann wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I am developing a proprietary Python library. The library is currently
> Windows-only, and I want to also make it available for other platforms (Linux
> & Mac). I'm writing because I wanted to ask for yo
On Thursday, December 5, 2013 6:28:54 AM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote:
> Rich Kulawiec wrote:
> > Yes, I'm
> > aware of web forums: I've used hundreds of them. They suck. They ALL
> > suck, they just all suck differently. I could spend the next several
> > thousand lines explaining why, but inste
On Thursday, December 5, 2013 4:17:11 AM UTC+5:30, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> On 03Dec2013 17:39, rusi wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 6:10:05 AM UTC+5:30, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> > > My first act on joining any mailing list is to download the entire
> > > archi
On Friday, December 6, 2013 1:06:30 PM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote:
> Rusi wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 5, 2013 6:28:54 AM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote:
> > > The real problem with web forums is they conflate transport and
> > > presentation into a single opaqu
On Friday, December 6, 2013 6:49:04 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 12:03 AM, rusi wrote:
> > SQL databases (assuming thats the mediawiki backend) is another -- ok for
> > data-structuring bad for presentation.
> No, SQL databases don't store str
On Friday, December 6, 2013 7:18:19 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 12:32 AM, rusi wrote:
> > I guess we are using 'structured' in different ways. All I am saying
> > is that mediawiki which seems to present as html, actually stores its
&g
not
> through email ,is there something wrong with it ?
Yes but its easily correctable
I recently answered this question to another poster here
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.lang.python/rusi$20google$20groups|sort:date/comp.lang.python/C51hEvi-KbY/KSeaMFoHtcIJ
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On Friday, December 6, 2013 8:42:02 PM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> The English I used was archaic, please ignore it :)
"Archaic" is almost archaic
"Old" is ever-young
:D
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Roy's yesterday's post in "Packaging a proprietary python library"
says:
> I, and Rusi, know enough, and take the effort, to overcome its
> shortcomings doesn't change that.
But in fact his post takes care of 1 not 2.
In all fairness I did not know that 2 is a problem u
On Friday, December 6, 2013 9:55:54 PM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 06/12/2013 16:19, rusi wrote:
> > So someone please update that page!
> This is a community so why don't you?
Ok done (at least a first draft)
I was under the impression that anyone could n
On Friday, December 6, 2013 10:11:04 PM UTC+5:30, MRAB wrote:
> On 06/12/2013 15:34, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 06:52:48 -0800, iMath wrote:
> >> yes ,I am a native Chinese speaker.I always post question by Google
> >> Group not through email ,is there something wrong with it ?
On Saturday, December 7, 2013 12:30:18 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 05:03:57 -0800, rusi wrote:
> > Evidently (and completely inadvertently) this exchange has just
> > illustrated one of the inadmissable assumptions:
> > "unicode as a
On Saturday, December 7, 2013 8:11:45 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 1:33 PM, rusi wrote:
> > That seems to suggest that something is not right with the python
> > mailing list config. No??
> If in doubt, blame someone else, eh?
> I'd first
On Saturday, December 7, 2013 7:54:50 AM UTC+5:30, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> On 12/6/13 8:03 AM, rusi wrote:
> > Leaving aside whose fault this is (very likely buggy google groups),
> > this mojibaking cannot happen if the assumption "All text is ASCII"
> > were t
On Saturday, December 7, 2013 3:46:02 PM UTC+5:30, wxjm...@gmail.com wrote:
> Rusi:
> "unicode as a medium is universal in the same way that
> ASCII used to be"
> Probably, you do not realize deeply how this sentence
> is correct. Unicode and ascii are constructed in t
On Saturday, December 7, 2013 10:26:04 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Torrie wrote:
> On 12/06/2013 08:27 PM, Roy Smith wrote:
> > Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> >> The ternary if is slightly unusual and unfamiliar
> > It's only unusual an unfamiliar if you're not used to using it :-)
> > Coming from a C/C++ b
On Sunday, December 8, 2013 6:28:24 AM UTC+5:30, Mahan Marwat wrote:
> Why this is not working.
> >>> 'Hello, World'.replace('\\', '\\')
> To me, Python will interpret '' to '\\'. And the replace method
> will replace '\\' with '\'. So, the result will be 'Hello,
> \World'. But it's give
On Sunday, December 8, 2013 4:05:54 PM UTC+5:30, Kalinni Gorzkis wrote:
> By which languages(s) Python was inspired to support evaluating expressions
> and executing statements in a separate “namespace” object?
> This syntax:
> eval(expression,globals) or exec(code,globals)
> What is the origin o
On Sunday, December 8, 2013 7:36:04 PM UTC+5:30, Tim Golden wrote:
> On 07/12/2013 12:41, Eamonn Rea wrote:
> > First of all. Id like to say I have no idea how these mailing lists
> > work, so I dont know if this'll come through right, but we'll see I
> > guess :-) I'm coming from the Google Group
On Sunday, December 8, 2013 8:09:39 PM UTC+5:30, Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
> rusi writes:
> > On Sunday, December 8, 2013 4:05:54 PM UTC+5:30, Kalinni Gorzkis wrote:
> > > By which languages(s) Python was inspired to support evaluating
> > > expressions and executi
On Saturday, December 7, 2013 9:35:34 PM UTC+5:30, giacomo boffi wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano writes:
> > Ironically, your post was not Unicode. [...] Your post was sent
> > using a legacy encoding, Windows-1252, also known as CP-1252
> i access rusi's post using a NNTP server,
> and in his post i
On Sunday, December 8, 2013 10:52:34 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 17:05:34 +0100, giacomo boffi wrote:
> > Steven D'Aprano writes:
> >> Ironically, your post was not Unicode. [...] Your post was sent using
> >> a legacy encoding, Windows-1252, also known as CP-1252
>
On Monday, December 9, 2013 8:11:47 AM UTC+5:30, zipher wrote:
> >> What methods, if any does it provide? Are they all abstract? etc???
> > Pretty much nothing useful :-)
> > py> dir(object)
> > [...]
> So (prodding the student), Why does everything inherit from Object if
> it provides no functio
On Monday, December 9, 2013 1:41:41 AM UTC+5:30, giacomo boffi wrote:
> the wrong one... i.e, the one JUST BEFORE your change of
> subject --- if i look at the "ellipsis" post, i see the same encoding
> that you have mentioned
> sorry for the confusion
And thank you for pointing the way to the c
Thanks for the info.
On Monday, December 9, 2013 9:46:30 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Dec 2013 18:58:09 -0800, rusi wrote:
> > PS Can some kind soul inform me whether I could convince GG to unicode
> > my post?
> Does GG not give you some way of ins
On Monday, December 9, 2013 10:37:38 AM UTC+5:30, ru...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On 12/08/2013 05:27 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> > On 09/12/2013 00:08, wrote:
> >> On 12/08/2013 12:17 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 6:06 AM, rafaell wrote:
> >[...]
> > To the OP, please ignore the
On Monday, December 9, 2013 10:56:28 AM UTC+5:30, ru...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On 12/08/2013 09:46 PM, rusi wrote:
> > On Monday, December 9, 2013 9:46:30 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> >> On Sun, 08 Dec 2013 18:58:09 -0800, rusi wrote:
> >[...]
> >> Does
g strewn about
"FP is a good idea"
http://blog.languager.org/2011/02/cs-education-is-fat-and-weak-1.html
and following 2 posts
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On Monday, December 9, 2013 9:14:08 PM UTC+5:30, Travis Griggs wrote:
> As long as we’re in full scale rant drift, I’d like to remind others
> of the time honored tradition of changing the post subject, when,
> er, uh, the subject changes. Because this obviously is not
> "programming help" anymore.
On Monday, December 9, 2013 9:55:19 PM UTC+5:30, rusi wrote:
> On Monday, December 9, 2013 9:14:08 PM UTC+5:30, Travis Griggs wrote:
> > As long as we’re in full scale rant drift, I’d like to remind others
> > of the time honored tradition of changing the post subject, when,
On Monday, December 9, 2013 5:53:41 PM UTC+5:30, Oscar Benjamin wrote:
> 5) Learning to program "should be painful" and we should expect the
> students to complain about it (someone actually said that!) but the
> pain makes them better programmers in the end.
Yeah this will get some people's back
On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 8:49:46 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Dec 2013 05:59:29 -0500, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> [...]
> > And the cycle continues:
> [...]
> > Maybe we could just not?
Thanks Ned for your attempts at bringing some order and sense in these parts
of the univ
On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:40:27 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> By the way, I'm curious. Why are discussions about object oriented coding
> off-topic to Python? This is not a rhetorical question.
Well OOP on the python list is certainly on topic.
Interminable discussions about why r
On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 3:07:36 PM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 10/12/2013 05:16, rusi wrote:
> > On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:40:27 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> >> By the way, I'm curious. Why are discussions about object oriented coding
>
On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:12:53 PM UTC+5:30, Oscar Benjamin wrote:
> On 9 December 2013 19:57, Terry Reedy wrote:
> > On 12/9/2013 7:23 AM, Oscar Benjamin wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >> I work in a University Engineering faculty teaching, among other
> >> things, programming. In our last meeting a
On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 9:52:47 PM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 10/12/2013 15:48, rurpy wrote:
> > On 12/10/2013 06:47 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> >> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 12:35 AM, harish.barvekar wrote:
> >> Also: You appear to be using Google Groups, which is the Mos Eisley of
>
Reordering to un-top-post.
> On 11.12.2013 06:47, Dave Angel wrote:
> > On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 02:02:20 +0200, Tamer Higazi wrote:
> >> Is there a way to get dict by search terms without iterating the
> > entire
> >> dictionary ?!
> >> I want to grab the dict's key and values started with 'Ar'...
>
On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 7:47:34 PM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote:
> JL wrote:
> > Python scripts can run without a main(). What is the advantage to using a
> > main()? Is it necessary to use a main() when the script uses command line
> > arguments? (See script below)
> > #!/usr/bin/python
On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 5:16:50 PM UTC+5:30, Oscar Benjamin wrote:
> The Electrical Engineering students will subsequently do low-level
> programming with registers etc. but at the earliest stage we just want
> them to think about how algorithms and programs work before going into
> all the
On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 8:16:12 PM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote:
> rusi wrote:
> > The classic data structure for this is the trie:
> > General idea: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trie
> > In python:
> > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11015320/how-to-create-a
On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 8:54:30 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 1:44 AM, rusi wrote:
> > It is this need to balance that makes functional programming attractive:
> > - implemented like any other programming language
> > - but also ma
On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:31:42 PM UTC+5:30, bob gailer wrote:
> On 12/11/2013 3:43 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > When you tell a story, it's important to engage the reader from the
> > start...explain "This is how to print Hello World to the
> > console" and worry about what exactly the co
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 6:42:42 AM UTC+5:30, Ben Finney wrote:
> Dan Stromberg writes:
> > I found a "remove formatting" button in gmail's composer, and used it
> > on this message. Does this message look like plain text?
> Still sent with an HTML part, so some other change must be needed
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 7:12:32 AM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote:
> rusi wrote:
> > Kernighan and Ritchie set an important "first" in our field by making
> > "Hello World" their first program.
> Yup.
> > People tend to under-estimate the importa
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 7:30:38 AM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote:
> In article Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > When did this forum become so intolerant of even the tiniest, most minor
> > breaches of old-school tech etiquette? Have we really got nothing better
> > to do than to go on the war path
On Friday, December 13, 2013 9:59:25 AM UTC+5:30, Unix SA wrote:
> s=open('/tmp/file2')
>s.write(line)
Among other things you are missing a write mode
(2nd optional argument to open)
http://docs.python.org/2/tutorial/inputoutput.html#reading-and-writing-files
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On Friday, December 13, 2013 8:31:37 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> I don't know of any reasonable way to tell at runtime which of the two
> algorithms I ought to take. Hard-coding an arbitrary value
> ("if len(table) > 500") is not the worst idea I've ever had, but I'm
> hoping for
On Friday, December 13, 2013 10:45:22 AM UTC+5:30, jennifer stone wrote:
> greetings
> I am a novice who is really interested in contributing to Python
> projects. How and where do I begin?
Good to see new names!
How much python do you know/studied/coded?
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On Friday, December 13, 2013 10:13:11 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 3:39 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> > You'll have to wait until the cows come home on two counts. One, he's never
> > yet provided any evidence to support any statement that he's ever made here.
> > Sec
On Friday, December 13, 2013 5:50:03 PM UTC+5:30, Jean Dubois wrote:
> Op vrijdag 13 december 2013 09:35:18 UTC+1 schreef Mark Lawrence:
> > Would you please read and action this
> > https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython to prevent us seeing the
> > double line spacing that accompanied
On Friday, December 13, 2013 5:50:03 PM UTC+5:30, Jean Dubois wrote:
> to make the script check itself whether pyhon2 or python3 should be used?
As far as I know both (2 and 3) worked
Do you have some reason to suspect one works and other not?
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On Friday, December 13, 2013 11:58:51 AM UTC+5:30, Robert Voigtländer wrote:
> >I've heard the term used often. It means something like, "performs
> >well" or "runs fast". It may or may not be an English word, but that
> >doesn't stop people from using it :-)
> > If "google" can be used to me
On Saturday, December 14, 2013 10:41:09 AM UTC+5:30, David Hutto wrote:
> Don't get me wrong, I didn't mean reinventing the wheel is a bad thing, just
> that once you get the hang of things, you need to display some creativity in
> your work to set yourself apart from the rest.
> Nowadays, everyo
On Sunday, December 15, 2013 4:21:08 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Apart from annoying the bystanders, your repeated angry and abusive
> screeds aimed at JMF in particular but others as well over minor
> formatting issues is more disruptive than the issues you are complaining
> about. I
On Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:30:12 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> I'm sorry, I was under the impression that Mark had done most of the
> work. I hadn't realised that others had contributed most of the practical
> advice.
To be fair, I added the stuff to the wiki on Mark's prompting.
Ea
On Saturday, December 14, 2013 10:41:09 AM UTC+5:30, David Hutto wrote:
> Don't get me wrong, I didn't mean reinventing the wheel is a bad
> thing, just that once you get the hang of things, you need to
> display some creativity in your work to set yourself apart from the
> rest.
> Nowadays, ever
On Monday, December 16, 2013 7:29:31 AM UTC+5:30, alex23 wrote:
> > # Need to compare values of counter and reject in function/routine in value
> > in counter2 is higher then value in counter1 for a current key
> [(k,Counter2[k]) for k in Counter2 - Counter1]
Why not just?
Counter2 - Count
On Monday, December 16, 2013 8:10:57 AM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote:
> rusi wrote:
> > On Monday, December 16, 2013 7:29:31 AM UTC+5:30, alex23 wrote:
> > > > # Need to compare values of counter and reject in function/routine in
> > > > value in counter2 is hi
On Monday, December 16, 2013 9:27:11 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 2:30 PM, liuerfire Wang wrote:
> > TypeError: 'tuple' object does not support item assignment
> > In [5]: a
> > Out[5]: ([1, 1], [])
> > no problem, there is an exception. But a is still changed.
> >
On Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:11:15 AM UTC+5:30, Tim Roberts wrote:
> Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> >>Well "performant" is performant enough for the purposes of communicating
> >>on the python list I think :D
> > Most probably could figure it out as being stylistically similar to
> >conformant =>
On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 5:58:12 AM UTC+5:30, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> On 12/16/13 3:32 PM, Wolfgang Keller wrote:
> >>> And ever after that experience, I avoided all languages that were
> >>> even remotely similar to C, such as C++, Java, C#, Javascript, PHP
> >>> etc.
> >> I think that's disa
On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 5:00:14 AM UTC+5:30, Djoser wrote:
> Basically I have a .dat file, so I get some numbers and make a different
> conversion.
>
> I'll try this struct script. I'm not used to it, but it seems to do what I
> want.
Construct is a very powerful utility for binary parsin
On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 1:55:57 AM UTC+5:30, Mark wrote:
> I am sorry if the way I posted messages was incorrect. Like I said, I am new
> to google groups and python quite a bit but i am trying to do things
> correctly by you guys. The errors that I am getting were not necessarily
> postin
On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 6:14:59 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:39 AM, rusi wrote:
> > I had a paper some years ago on why C is a horrible language *to teach with*
> > http://www.the-magus.in/Publications/chor.pdf
> > I believe people
On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:51:07 PM UTC+5:30, larry@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> > I was in charge of the team at work that had to make all code Y2K compliant.
> > I discovered the one bug that to my knowledge slipped through the net. Four
>
On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 4:35:31 PM UTC+5:30, Mark wrote:
> I am sorry, using google groups i cant tell what you see...
> Anyways, I guess i will just make lots of lines instead of long sentences?
> How about this, the first person that can get this to work for me...
> I will paypal them 20 d
On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 8:21:39 PM UTC+5:30, Neil Cerutti wrote:
> On 2013-12-17, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > I would really like to see good quality statistics about bugs
> > per program written in different languages. I expect that, for
> > all we like to make fun of COBOL, it probably has f
On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 8:10:20 AM UTC+5:30, Frank Cui wrote:
> Hi Pythoners,
> I'm looking for a tool or framework in which I can do a slight modification to
> achieve the following task:
> "Asynchronously reset a large number of cisco routers back to their original
> configurations and pu
On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 8:52:11 AM UTC+5:30, smileso...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi,
> I am a newbie in python. I am looking for a existing module which I can
> import in my program to log the objects to a file?
> I know there is a module Data::Dumper in perl which dumps the objects to
> fil
On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 4:42:07 PM UTC+5:30, Oscar Benjamin wrote:
> On 17 December 2013 00:39, rusi wrote:
> > I had a paper some years ago on why C is a horrible language *to teach with*
> > http://www.the-magus.in/Publications/chor.pdf
> Thanks for this Rusi, I j
On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 8:53:54 PM UTC+5:30, Ethan Furman wrote:
> On 12/18/2013 12:18 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 22:49:43 -0500, Paul Smith wrote:
> >> On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 01:33 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> >>> On 12/17/2013 04:32 PM, Roy Smith wrote:
> Yo
On Thursday, December 19, 2013 7:10:53 AM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote:
> Grant Edwards wrote:
> > I've always felt that there are features in C that don't make a lot of
> > sense until you've actually implemented a compiler -- at which point
> > it becomes a lot more obvious why some thing are done
On Thursday, December 19, 2013 6:19:04 AM UTC+5:30, Rhodri James wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 15:51:44 -, Wolfgang Keller wrote:
> > The only issue for me was to figure out how to do in C what I already
> > knew in Pascal. And I had to waste a *lot* more time and mental effort
> > to mess with
On Thursday, December 19, 2013 9:46:26 AM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote:
> rusi wrote:
> > Soon the foo has to split into foo1.c and foo2.c. And suddenly you need to
> > understand:
> > 1. Separate compilation
> > 2. Make (which is separate from 'separate compi
On Thursday, December 19, 2013 10:20:54 AM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 19/12/2013 04:29, rusi wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 19, 2013 6:19:04 AM UTC+5:30, Rhodri James wrote:
> >> On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 15:51:44 -, Wolfgang Keller wrote:
> >>> The only issu
> On Thursday, December 19, 2013 9:46:26 AM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote:
> > rusi wrote:
> > > Soon the foo has to split into foo1.c and foo2.c. And suddenly you need
> > > to
> > > understand:
> > > 1. Separate compilation
> > > 2. Make (
On Friday, December 20, 2013 11:18:53 AM UTC+5:30, chao dong wrote:
> HI, everybody. When I try to use numpy to deal with my dataset in the style
> of csv, I face a little problem.
> In my dataset of the csv file, some columns are string that can not
> convert to float easily. Some of them c
On Friday, December 20, 2013 8:46:31 PM UTC+5:30, dec...@msn.com wrote:
> y = raw_input('Enter a number:')
> print type y
> y = float(raw_input('Enter a number:'))
> print type y
> I'm assuming that y is an object. I'm also assuming that the second and the
> first y are different objects because
On Friday, December 20, 2013 9:30:22 PM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 20/12/2013 15:34, rusi wrote:
> > On Friday, December 20, 2013 8:46:31 PM UTC+5:30, dec...@msn.com wrote:
> >> y = raw_input('Enter a number:')
> >> print type y
> >> y = float
On Friday, August 2, 2013 12:05:53 PM UTC+5:30, Ben Finney wrote:
> Skip Montanaro writes:
>
> > I really love Emacs, however... […]
> >
> > This is clearly a case where choosing the proper tool is important. I
> > agree that using a spreadsheet to edit a 3x5 CSV file is likely
> > overkill (might
On Friday, September 6, 2013 10:26:07 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Not specifically about Python, but still relevant:
>
> http://blog.kickin-the-darkness.com/2007/09/confessions-of-terrible-programmer.html
Nice post -- thanks!
Prompted this from me
http://blog.languager.org/2013/09/poor
On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 7:44:04 PM UTC+5:30, mnishpsyched wrote:
> Hey i am a programmer but new to python. Can anyone guide me in knowing which
> is a better IDE used to develop web related apps that connect to DB using
> python?
Just saw this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-dUkyn_fZA
On Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:21:49 PM UTC+5:30, Benjamin Kaplan wrote:
> The main difference between wx and qt is that qt looks native on every
> platform
> while wx *is* native on every platform (it uses native controls wherever
> possible). This means that wx integrates into the OS bett
On Tuesday, September 17, 2013 9:49:28 PM UTC+5:30, Benjamin Kaplan wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 7:55 AM, rusi wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:21:49 PM UTC+5:30, Benjamin Kaplan wrote:
>
> >
> >> The main difference between wx and qt is
On Wednesday, September 18, 2013 7:12:21 AM UTC+5:30, Bryan Britten wrote:
> Hey, gang, I've got a problem here that I'm sure a handful of you will know
> how to solve. I've got about 6 *.csv files that I am trying to open; change
> the header names (to get rid of spaces); add two new columns, wh
On Friday, September 20, 2013 3:28:00 PM UTC+5:30, Aseem Bansal wrote:
> I started Python 4 months ago. Largely self-study with use of Python
> documentation, stackoverflow and google. I was thinking what is the minimum
> that I must know before I can say that I know Python?
>
>
>
> I come fro
On Friday, September 20, 2013 7:09:13 PM UTC+5:30, Robert Kern wrote:
> On 2013-09-20 12:43, rusi wrote:
> > Stroustrup says he is still learning C++ and I know kids who have no qualms
> > saying they know programming language L (for various values of L) after
> > hardly an
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