Re: from future import pass_function

2012-07-25 Thread Rusi
Ulrich: If you take a look at pep 3105 you find five rationales. http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3105/#rationale If the first were the only one then your suggestion would have merit. There are also the other 4 in which pass and print dont really correspond. Steven wrote earlier: > I have an ax

Re: from future import pass_function

2012-07-26 Thread rusi
On Jul 25, 1:40 pm, Ulrich Eckhardt wrote: > Hi! > > I just had an idea, it occurred to me that the pass statement is pretty > similar to the print statement, and similarly to the print() function, > there could be a pass() function that does and returns nothing. > > Example: >     def pass(): >  

Re: OT: Text editors

2012-07-28 Thread rusi
On Jul 29, 10:08 am, Ben Finney wrote: > Tim Chase writes: > > On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > > > I highly recommend the use of notepad++.  If anyone knows of a > > > better text editor for Windows please let me know :) I would have bet Mark was ribbing the folks on this

Re: Is Python a commercial proposition ?

2012-07-30 Thread rusi
On Jul 29, 9:01 pm, lipska the kat wrote: > Pythoners > > Firstly, thanks to those on the tutor list who answered my questions. > > I'm trying to understand where Python fits into the set of commonly > available, commercially used languages of the moment. > > My most recent experience is with Java

Re: Eclipse and the Python plugin

2012-08-03 Thread rusi
On Aug 3, 4:34 pm, lipska the kat wrote: > A while ago someone asked me what I thought of the Eclipse plugin for > python, well I just downloaded and installed the latest version of > Eclipse for Java (Juno) followed by the Python plugin. Thanks Lipska for reporting back. I personally find the ec

Re: Eclipse and the Python plugin

2012-08-03 Thread rusi
On Aug 3, 10:04 pm, lipska the kat wrote: > > 117 methods seems a lot doesn't it. I'm still trying to get my head > around Python packages, I think Eclipse will help me with this and the > whole module mix of functions and classes is taking a while to get used > to. The standard included libraries

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

2012-08-06 Thread rusi
On Aug 6, 12:46 am, lipska the kat wrote: > On 04/08/12 16:49, Jean Dubois wrote: > > > I'm looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming > > with Python. > > Object Oriented programming is a mindset, a way of looking at that > particular part of our world that you are trying to

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

2012-08-06 Thread rusi
On Aug 6, 7:27 pm, lipska the kat wrote: > You take out the garbage. > I've got automatic garbage collection :-) BTW in "automatic garbage collection" which of the three words is most important? Least? Heres another take on nouns (and therefore OO): http://hilgart.org/enformy/dma-verb.htm --

Re: Intermediate Python user needed help

2012-08-06 Thread rusi
On Aug 7, 6:16 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 09:05:50 -0700, Ethan Furman wrote: > >   These are not the errors an intermediate user would make, nor the > > questions an intermediate user would ask.  These are the errors that > > somebody who doesn't know Python would make. > >

Re: The way to develope a graphical application to manage a Postgres database

2012-08-06 Thread rusi
On Aug 5, 11:26 pm, Csanyi Pal wrote: > Mark Lawrence writes: > > On 05/08/2012 16:58, Csanyi Pal wrote: > >> Walter Hurry writes: > > >>> On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 20:24:36 +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote: > > I'm searching for a way to develope a Python graphical application for a > Postgresql dat

Alternate Python extensions (was alternate Python implementations)

2012-08-06 Thread rusi
On Aug 4, 11:15 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Most people are aware, if only vaguely, of the big Four Python > implementations: I think the question about where Cython fits into this, raises the need for a complementary list to Steven's. What are the different ways in which python can be extende

Re: Intermediate Python user needed help

2012-08-06 Thread rusi
On Aug 7, 8:06 am, Jugurtha Hadjar wrote: > On 08/05/2012 09:52 PM, John Mordecai Dildy wrote: > > > NameError: name 'start' is not defined > > > anyone know how to make start defined > > Maybe rename it "defined_start" ;) > > I wonder how someone can get to the point of writing more than 76 lines

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

2012-08-07 Thread rusi
On Aug 7, 7:34 pm, lipska the kat wrote: > > Never thought so for a moment, good to know you can be reasonable as > well as misguided ;-) Well Lipska I must say that I find something resonant about the 'no- person' thing, though I am not sure what. You also said something about 'user' being more

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

2012-08-08 Thread rusi
On Aug 8, 2:51 pm, lipska the kat wrote: > The point I'm obviously struggling to make is that words convey concepts > The word Person conveys a whole lifetime of experience of People and as > imperfect human beings many of us are unable to tease out 'bits of being > a person' that are relevant to

Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets.

2012-08-13 Thread rusi
On Aug 13, 1:05 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > Chill out Alex, it's all good. Mark was channelling a famous scene from > "Fawlty Towers", staring Monty Python's own John Cleese, hence it is on- > topic, for the sillier definitions of on-topic. Ha! Thanks for that connection. Watched and enjoyed F

Re: Top-posting &c. (was Re: [ANNC] pybotwar-0.8)

2012-08-17 Thread rusi
On Aug 17, 3:36 am, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 1:40 AM, Ramchandra Apte > wrote: > > On 16 August 2012 21:00, Mark Lawrence wrote: > >> and "bottom" reads better than "top" > > > Look you are the only person complaining about top-posting. > > GMail uses top-posting by defau

Re: remote read eval print loop

2012-08-17 Thread rusi
On Aug 17, 12:25 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Steven D'Aprano > > wrote: > > There is already awesome protocols for running Python code remotely over > > a network. Please do not re-invent the wheel without good reason. > > > See pyro, twisted, rpyc, rpclib, jpc,

Re: Top-posting &c. (was Re: [ANNC] pybotwar-0.8)

2012-08-17 Thread rusi
On Aug 17, 10:19 am, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 15:42:54 -0700 (PDT), Madison May > declaimed the following in > gmane.comp.python.general: > > > > > As a lurker, I agree completely with Chris's sentiments. > >         I've been holding back on quoting the "netiquette RFC"...

Re: Top-posting &c. (was Re: [ANNC] pybotwar-0.8)

2012-08-18 Thread rusi
On Aug 18, 8:34 pm, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2012-08-17, rusi wrote: > > > I was in a corporate environment for a while.  And carried my > > 'trim&interleave' habits there. And got gently scolded for seeming to > > hide things!! > > I have, rarely, g

Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord()

2012-08-18 Thread rusi
On Aug 18, 10:59 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 08:07:05 -0700, wxjmfauth wrote: > > Is there any reason why non ascii users are somehow penalized compared > > to ascii users? > > Of course there is a reason. > > If you want to represent 1114111 different characters in a string,

Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord()

2012-08-19 Thread rusi
On Aug 19, 11:11 pm, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: > Le dimanche 19 août 2012 19:48:06 UTC+2, Paul Rubin a écrit : > > > > > But they are not ascii pages, they are (as stated) MOSTLY ascii. > > > E.g. the characters are 99% ascii but 1% non-ascii, so 393 chooses > > > a much more memory-expensive enco

Re: Top-posting &c. (was Re: [ANNC] pybotwar-0.8)

2012-08-20 Thread rusi
On Aug 19, 12:15 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > is probably a really great person and kind to small animals and furry > children, but... ROFL! The first we're all familiar with. Furry children? Something to do with heads the size of a planet? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-l

Re: Objects in Python

2012-08-23 Thread rusi
On Aug 23, 9:34 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 18:46:43 +0100, lipska the kat wrote: > > We need to separate out the 'view' from the 'implementation' here. Most > > developers I know, if looking at the code and without the possibly > > dubious benefit of knowing that in Python 'e

Re: Guarding arithmetic

2012-08-23 Thread rusi
On Aug 23, 3:11 pm, Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> wrote: > Mark Carter wrote: > > Suppose I want to define a function "safe", which returns the argument > > passed if there is no error, and 42 if there is one. So the setup is > > something like: > > > def safe(x): > >    # WHAT WOULD DEFINE HERE?

Re: Data cleaning workouts

2012-08-23 Thread rusi
On Aug 23, 12:52 pm, Fg Nu wrote: > List folk, > > I am a newbie trying to get used to Python. I was wondering if anyone knows > of web resources that teach good practices in data cleaning and management > for statistics/analytics/machine learning, particularly using Python. > > Ideally, these w

python-list@python.org

2012-08-24 Thread rusi
On Aug 24, 7:23 pm, Ramchandra Apte wrote: > As BFDL, I hereby command everybody to stop the discussion. > lets put time on useful stuff > > i am using google groups (i think it knows what to do) Your posts are coming in doubles. And the quoted lines are coming double-spaced! Actually the 'new'

Re: Flexible string representation, unicode, typography, ...

2012-08-24 Thread rusi
On Aug 24, 12:22 am, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 12:33 PM,   wrote: > >> >>> sys.getsizeof('a' * 80 * 50) > > >> > 4025 > > >> sys.getsizeof('a' * 80 * 50 + '•') > > >> > 8040 > > >>     This example is still benefiting from shrinking the number of bytes > > >> in half over usi

Re: Looking for duplicate modules

2012-08-24 Thread rusi
On Aug 23, 8:30 pm, Roy Smith wrote: > We got burned yesterday by a scenario which has burned us before.  We had > multiple copies of a module in sys.path.  One (the one we wanted) was in our > deployed code tree, the other was in /usr/local/lib/python/ or some such.  It > was a particularly co

python-list@python.org

2012-08-24 Thread rusi
On Aug 24, 8:58 pm, rusi wrote: > On Aug 24, 7:23 pm, Ramchandra Apte wrote: > > > As BFDL, I hereby command everybody to stop the discussion. > > lets put time on useful stuff > > > i am using google groups (i think it knows what to do) > > Your posts are co

Re: Flexible string representation, unicode, typography, ...

2012-08-28 Thread rusi
On Aug 28, 4:57 am, Neil Hodgson wrote: > wxjmfa...@gmail.com: > > > Go "has" the integers int32 and int64. A rune ensure > > the usage of int32. "Text libs" use runes. Go has only > > bytes and runes. > >      Go's text libraries use UTF-8 encoded byte strings. Not arrays of > runes. See, for exa

Re: How to tell people to ask questions the smart way

2012-09-04 Thread rusi
On Sep 5, 4:27 am, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 05/09/2012 00:05, Ben Finney wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Andreas Perstinger writes: > > >> On 04.09.2012 11:34, Paolo wrote: > >>> how do I know if a JTextField has the focus? > >>> thank to all > > >> Look there: > >>http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smar

Re: Bitshifts and "And" vs Floor-division and Modular

2012-09-06 Thread rusi
On Sep 7, 5:01 am, jimbo1qaz wrote: > Is it faster to use bitshifts or floor division? And which is better, & or %? > All divisors and mods are power of 2, so are binary operations faster? And > are they considered bad style? On an 8086/8088 a MUL (multiply) instruction was of the order of 100 c

Re: Bitshifts and "And" vs Floor-division and Modular

2012-09-07 Thread rusi
On Sep 7, 9:32 am, Paul Rubin wrote: > rusi writes: > > On an 8086/8088 a MUL (multiply) instruction was of the order of 100 > > clocks ...  On most modern processors (after the pentium) the > > difference has mostly vanished.  I cant find a good data sheet to > >

Re: Stop feeding the trolls (Was: which a is used?)

2012-09-27 Thread rusi
On Sep 28, 10:21 am, Dwight Hutto wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 1:12 AM, Littlefield, Tyler > wrote: > > On 9/27/2012 10:50 PM, Dwight Hutto wrote: > > >> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:40 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > > >>> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Dwight Hutto > >>> wrote: > > [ lo

Re: Article on the future of Python

2012-09-28 Thread rusi
On Sep 27, 5:11 pm, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: > On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 2:13 AM, Steven D'Aprano > > wrote: > > On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 09:15:00 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote: > > And a response: > > >http://data.geek.nz/python-is-doing-just-fine > > Summary of that article: > > "Sure, you have all these

Re: Article on the future of Python

2012-09-28 Thread rusi
On Sep 28, 5:54 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 05:08:24 -0700, rusi wrote: > > On Sep 27, 5:11 pm, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 2:13 AM, Steven D'Aprano > > >> wrote: > >> > On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 09:15:

Re: Can somebody give me an advice about what to learn?

2012-09-30 Thread rusi
On Sep 30, 5:58 pm, tcgo wrote: > Hi! > I'm really new to Usenet/Newsgroups, but... I'd like to learn some new > programming language, because I learnt a bit of Perl though its OOP is ugly. > So, after searching a bit, I found Python and Ruby, and both of they are cute. > So, assuming you'll say

Re: I am just trying to find out if there is any relevant/current research in the production of a generic quality assurance tool for my PhD.

2012-10-06 Thread rusi
On Oct 7, 9:15 am, Ramchandra Apte wrote: > On Sunday, 7 October 2012 00:13:58 UTC+5:30, Darryl Owens  wrote: > > I am currently starting my PhD in software quality assurance and have been > > doing a lot of reading round this subject. I am just trying to find out if > > there is any relevant/cu

Re: Insert item before each element of a list

2012-10-08 Thread rusi
On Oct 9, 7:06 am, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , >  Terry Reedy wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/8/2012 3:28 PM, mooremath...@gmail.com wrote: > > > What's the best way to accomplish this?  Am I over-complicating it?  My > > > gut > > > feeling is there is a better way than the following: >

Re: Insert item before each element of a list

2012-10-08 Thread rusi
On Oct 9, 7:34 am, rusi wrote: > How about a 2-paren version? > > >>> x = [1,2,3] > >>> reduce(operator.add,  [['insert', a] for a in x]) > > ['insert', 1, 'insert', 2, 'insert', 3] Or if one prefers the different p

Re: Basic JSON question: Do I really need the quotes

2012-10-12 Thread rusi
On Oct 13, 5:03 am, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > >  moo...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: > > I need to define some configuration in a file that will be manually created. > > [...] > > json seemed a quick an easy way of achieving this > > JSON would not be my first choice for a file which needs to be > m

Re: how to insert random error in a programming

2012-10-15 Thread rusi
On Oct 15, 9:00 pm, John Gordon wrote: > In Debashish Saha > writes: > > > how to insert random error in a programming? > > Open the program source file and replace the Nth character with a random > character. I'm reminded of a description of vi: A program with two modes, one in which it beep

Re: OT Questions

2012-10-16 Thread rusi
On Oct 16, 7:55 pm, Demian Brecht wrote: > I'm not sure whether or not this is a troll, but I'll bite. Do trolls exist any more than pixies, elves, gnomes, unicorns? Trolling posts of course do... IOW: > There's a small light somewhere deep down that says maybe this is just > someone quite misdi

Re: Aggressive language on python-list

2012-10-16 Thread rusi
chnically he is correct; humanly I am not so sure. [I have a personal regret that I did not rebut Steven's rudeness with a '... that is not necessarily the view of the whole group...' I hesitated to do so because I am not adept at giving sympathy without giving false hope and keeping the post at reasonable length. Anyhow this (too long) post is an attempt at correcting that.] In the earlier (Quora-thread) Terry Reedy's voice was most balanced and sane; unfortunately covered in the 'dog-pile' of all the rest. Hopefully he will put in his word here as well. [And Zero thank you for starting this thread] Rusi - http://blog.languager.org -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: list comprehension question

2012-10-16 Thread rusi
On Oct 17, 7:14 am, Dave Angel wrote: > On 10/16/2012 09:54 PM, Kevin Anthony wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I've been teaching myself list comprehension, and i've run across something > > i'm not able to convert. > > > here's the original code for matrix multiplcation > > > retmatrix = Matrix(self.

Re: Aggressive language on python-list

2012-10-16 Thread rusi
On Oct 17, 9:25 am, alex23 wrote: > On Oct 17, 1:54 pm, "Kristen J. Webb" wrote: > > > It sucks for me to spend so much time filtering this BS. > > Yet you then chose to participate in a discussion about it. Because > that's what people do to discuss suitable behaviour. > > I really don't get peo

Re: list comprehension question

2012-10-17 Thread rusi
On Oct 17, 10:22 am, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 10/16/2012 9:54 PM, Kevin Anthony wrote: > > > I've been teaching myself list comprehension, and i've run across > > something i'm not able to convert. > > list comprehensions specifically abbreviate the code that they are > (essentially) equivalent to.

Re: Aggressive language on python-list

2012-10-17 Thread rusi
On Oct 17, 11:15 am, alex23 wrote: > On Oct 17, 2:43 pm, rusi wrote: > > > Let me try to restate alex without the barb. > > Do you offer this service for hire? :) Hmm now thats an idea… Are you offering to hire? [Considering how many jobs Ive changed, never know whats nex

Re: list comprehension question

2012-10-17 Thread rusi
On Oct 17, 5:33 pm, Dave Angel wrote: > On 10/17/2012 12:43 AM, Kevin Anthony wrote:> Is it not true that list > comprehension is much faster the the for loops? > > > If it is not the correct way of doing this, i appoligize. > > Like i said, I'm learing list comprehension. > list comprehensions

Re: list comprehension question

2012-10-17 Thread rusi
On Oct 17, 7:06 pm, rusi wrote: > On Oct 17, 5:33 pm, Dave Angel wrote: > > > On 10/17/2012 12:43 AM, Kevin Anthony wrote:> Is it not true that list > > comprehension is much faster the the for loops? > > > > If it is not the correct way of doing this, i a

Re: list comprehension question

2012-10-17 Thread rusi
On Oct 17, 7:37 pm, Dave Angel wrote: > And I'd wager all the improvement is in the inner loop, the dot() function. Sorry -- red herring! Changing def mm1(a,b): return [[sum(x*y for x,y in zip(ra,rb)) for rb in zip(*b)] for ra in a] to def mm1(a,b): return [[sum([x*y for x,y in zip(ra,rb)])

Re: Aggressive language on python-list

2012-10-17 Thread rusi
On Oct 18, 9:06 am, alex23 wrote: > On Oct 18, 2:02 pm, Dwight Hutto wrote: > [a public response to a private email] > > I really don't appreciate you pushing public a *private email > exchange*, especially when it has nothing whatsoever to do with this > list. Speaking generally I agree. Speci

Re: Aggressive language on python-list

2012-10-17 Thread rusi
On Oct 18, 10:18 am, Zero Piraeus wrote: > : > > On 18 October 2012 00:36, rusi wrote: > > > Unfortunately, I feel this whole discussion/thread has got derailed: > > Zero you started this thread about aggressive behavior. It does not > > seem to me that this was the

Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness

2012-10-18 Thread rusi
On Oct 18, 11:06 am, Zero Piraeus wrote: > : > > Okay, so, first thing vaguely Python-related that comes to mind [so > probably not even slightly original, but then that's not really the > point]: > > What are people's preferred strategies for dealing with lines that go > over 79 characters? A few

Re: Aggressive language on python-list

2012-10-18 Thread rusi
On Oct 18, 11:27 am, David Hutto wrote: > > [BTW This was enunciated 2000 years ago by a clever chap: Love your > > enemies; drive them crazy > > That only works if they're not already insane. > Otherwise you're just prodding a cornered beast. Usually but not necessarily http://en.wikipedia.org/w

Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness

2012-10-18 Thread rusi
>  \       “When I get new information, I change my position. What, sir, | >   `\             do you do with new information?” —John Maynard Keynes | > _o__)                                                                  | > \ “Anyone who believes exponential growth can go on forever in a

Re: pls help me with this prog

2012-10-19 Thread rusi
Dont know what your code does/tries to do. Anyway some points: On Oct 19, 1:40 pm, inshu chauhan wrote: > in this prog I have written a code to calculate teh centre of a given 3D > data.. > > but i want to calculate it for every 3 points not the whole data, but > instead of giving me centre for

Re: Python on Windows

2012-10-19 Thread rusi
On Oct 19, 6:24 pm, graham wrote: > On 16/10/2012 12:29, graham wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Downloaded and installed Python 2.7.3 for windows (an XP machine). > > > Entered the Python interactive interpreter/command line and typed the > > following: > > >      >>>import feedparser > > > and I

Re: section with in a section config file and reading that config file

2012-10-19 Thread rusi
On Oct 19, 6:58 pm, Tarek Ziadé wrote: > On 10/19/12 12:22 PM, narasimha1...@gmail.com wrote: > > > yes but it is not only for one structure like above there will be many > > sections like that > > I'd use yaml or json then... Maybe http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/configobj.html ?? -- http:/

Re: Preventing crap email from google?

2012-10-20 Thread rusi
On Oct 20, 8:35 am, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 10/19/2012 06:43 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > > > Good morning/afternoon/evening all, > > > Is there any possibility that we could find a way to prevent the double > > spaced rubbish that comes from G$ infiltrating this ng/ml?  For example, > > does Pyt

Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness

2012-10-20 Thread rusi
On Oct 20, 8:27 am, Tim Chase wrote: > On 10/19/12 17:14, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > > Code never *needs* to be long, because it can always be shortened. > > I advocate one bit per line: > > 1 > 0 > 1 > 0 > 0 > 1 > 0 > 1 > 1 > 0 > 0 > 1 > 0 > 1 > 1 > 1 > 0 > 0 > 0 > 0 > 1 > 1 > 1 > 0 > 1 > 1 > 0 >

Re: get each pair from a string.

2012-10-22 Thread rusi
On 10/21/2012 11:33 AM, Vincent Davis wrote: > I am looking for a good way to get every pair from a string. For example, > input: > x = 'apple' > output > 'ap' > 'pp' > 'pl' > 'le' Maybe zip before izip for a noob? >>> s="apple" >>> [a+b for a,b in zip(s, s[1:])] ['ap', 'pp', 'pl', 'le'] >>> --

Re: get each pair from a string.

2012-10-22 Thread rusi
On Oct 22, 9:19 pm, rusi wrote: > On 10/21/2012 11:33 AM, Vincent Davis wrote: > > > I am looking for a good way to get every pair from a string. For example, > > input: > > x = 'apple' > > output > > 'ap' > > 'pp' > >

Re: Fast forward-backward (write-read)

2012-10-24 Thread rusi
On Oct 23, 7:52 pm, Virgil Stokes wrote: > I am working with some rather large data files (>100GB) that contain time > series > data. The data (t_k,y(t_k)), k = 0,1,...,N are stored in ASCII format. I > perform > various types of processing on these data (e.g. moving median, moving average, > an

Re: bit count or bit set && Python3

2012-10-25 Thread rusi
On Oct 25, 7:56 pm, Charles Hixson wrote: > In Python3 is there any good way to count the number of on bits in an > integer (after an & operation)? > Alternatively, is there any VERY light-weight implementation of a bit > set?  I'd prefer to use integers, as I'm probably going to need > thousands

Re: bit count or bit set && Python3

2012-10-25 Thread rusi
On Oct 25, 8:57 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 02:31:53 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 2:25 AM, Christian Heimes > > wrote: > >> Simple, easy, faster than a Python loop but not very elegant: > > >>    bin(number).count("1") > > > Unlikely to be fast. >

Re: bit count or bit set && Python3

2012-10-25 Thread rusi
On Oct 25, 9:30 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 3:17 AM, rusi wrote: > > On Oct 25, 8:57 pm, Steven D'Aprano > +comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote: > >> py> min(t.repeat(number=1, repeat=7)) > >> 0.6819710731506348 &

Re: attaching names to subexpressions

2012-10-27 Thread rusi
On Oct 28, 5:49 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > It's sure as hell more beautiful and readable than assignment as an > expression. > > If we are going to judge code on the ability of people to take a quick > glance and immediately understand it, then pretty much nothing but > trivial one-liners will

Re: Immutability and Python

2012-10-30 Thread rusi
On Oct 29, 8:20 pm, andrea crotti wrote: > Any comments about this? What do you prefer and why? Im not sure how what the 'prefer' is about -- your specific num wrapper or is it about the general question of choosing mutable or immutable types? If the latter I would suggest you read http://en.wi

Re: Immutability and Python

2012-10-30 Thread rusi
On Oct 31, 1:45 am, Neal Becker wrote: > rusi wrote: > > On Oct 29, 8:20 pm, andrea crotti wrote: > > > >> Any comments about this? What do you prefer and why? > > > Im not sure how what the 'prefer' is about -- your specific num > > wrappe

Re: Obnoxious postings from Google Groups

2012-11-04 Thread rusi
On Nov 4, 4:14 pm, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > / ru...@yahoo.com wrote on Fri  2.Nov'12 at 11:39:10 -0700 / > > > (I also hope I haven't just been suckered by a troll > > attempt, windows/unix is better then unix/windows being > > an age-old means of trolling.) > > No, i'm not a "troll". I was jus

Re: Obnoxious postings from Google Groups

2012-11-04 Thread rusi
On Nov 5, 11:40 am, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 5:10 PM, rusi wrote: > > Among people who know me, I am a linux nerd: My sister scolded me > > yesterday because I put files on her computer without spaces: > > DoesAnyoneWriteLikeThis?!?! > > My file

Re: Multi-dimensional list initialization

2012-11-06 Thread rusi
On Nov 7, 5:26 am, MRAB wrote: > I prefer the term "reference semantics". Ha! That hits the nail on the head. To go back to the OP: On Nov 5, 11:28 am, Demian Brecht wrote: > So, here I was thinking "oh, this is a nice, easy way to initialize a 4D > matrix" (running 2.7.3, non-core libs not a

Re: How to print python commands automatically?

2012-11-08 Thread rusi
On Nov 9, 4:12 am, Peng Yu wrote: > Hi, > > In bash, set -v will print the command executed. For example, the > following screen output shows that the "echo" command is printed > automatically. Is there a similar thing in python? > > ~/linux/test/bash/man/builtin/set/-v$ cat main.sh > #!/usr/bin/e

Re: xml data or other?

2012-11-09 Thread rusi
On Nov 9, 5:54 pm, Artie Ziff wrote: > Hello, > > I want to process XML-like data like this: > Edits were substituting '/' for '\' on the end tags, and adding the > following structure: If thats all you want, you can try the following: # obviously this should come from a file input= """

Re: Multi-dimensional list initialization

2012-11-09 Thread rusi
On Nov 9, 11:37 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:07:09 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Mark Lawrence > > wrote: > >> On 07/11/2012 01:55, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > >>> Who knows? Who cares? Nobody does: > > >>> n -= n > > >> But I've seen this

Re: How to print python commands automatically?

2012-11-10 Thread rusi
On Nov 9, 10:41 pm, Peng Yu wrote: > I have to explicitly specify the modules I want to ignore. Is there a > way to ignore all the modules by default? Is this your problem? http://bugs.python.org/issue10685 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: A gnarly little python loop

2012-11-11 Thread rusi
On Nov 11, 3:58 am, Roy Smith wrote: > I'm trying to pull down tweets with one of the many twitter APIs.  The > particular one I'm using (python-twitter), has a call: > > data = api.GetSearch(term="foo", page=page) > > The way it works, you start with page=1.  It returns a list of tweets. > If the

Re: A gnarly little python loop

2012-11-12 Thread rusi
On Nov 12, 12:09 pm, rusi wrote: > This is a classic problem -- structure clash of parallel loops Sorry wrong solution :D The fidgetiness is entirely due to python not allowing C-style loops like these: >> while ((c=getchar()!= EOF) { ... } Putting it into coroutine form, i

Re: A gnarly little python loop

2012-11-12 Thread rusi
On Nov 12, 9:09 pm, Steve Howell wrote: > On Nov 12, 7:21 am, rusi wrote: > > > On Nov 12, 12:09 pm, rusi wrote:> This is a classic > > problem -- structure clash of parallel loops > > > > > > Sorry wrong solution :D > > > The fidgetiness is e

Re: Simple Question regarding running .py program

2012-11-13 Thread rusi
On Nov 14, 12:02 pm, ru...@yahoo.com wrote: > > == > [*] Actually, now that I think about it, IIRC one can sign > up for python-list email, and go into the mailman settings > and disable mail delivery, allowing one to post to the list > via email yet read the list via GG, Gmane or whatever. > Howev

Re: Simple Question regarding running .py program

2012-11-15 Thread rusi
On Nov 16, 2:29 am, ru...@yahoo.com wrote: > But of course, our genius doesn't keep any records > and the cases where he is wrong don't make as much > impression on his memory.  Further, he doesn't bother > to check the headers on the non-crap posts.  Even a > junior-high science student could see

Re: editing conf file

2012-11-16 Thread rusi
On Nov 16, 5:15 pm, chip9munk <"chip9munk[SSSpAm"@gmail.com> wrote: > ok, I've got it:http://docs.python.org/3.1/library/configparser.html > > works like a charm! > > Sorry for the unnecessary question. :/ Not an issue. And there may be better options (allows nested sections) http://www.voidspace

Re: editing conf file

2012-11-16 Thread rusi
On Nov 16, 7:08 pm, Roy Smith wrote: > These days, if I was writing something that needed a config file and I > didn't want to do "import settings" for whatever reason, I would go with > YAML.  It seems to give an attractive mix of: > > * supporting complex data structures > * easy to for humans t

Re: xml data or other?

2012-11-18 Thread rusi
On Nov 18, 6:32 pm, Artie Ziff wrote: > Unfortunately, xml parsing fails due to angle brackets inside > description tags. In particular, xml.etree.ElementTree.parse() > aborts on '<' inside xml data such as the following: > > >       >          This testcase tests if crontab installs the cronjob

Re: xml data or other?

2012-11-18 Thread rusi
On Nov 18, 8:54 pm, rusi wrote: > Start with cgi.escape perhaps?http://docs.python.org/2/library/cgi.html This may be a better link for starters http://wiki.python.org/moin/EscapingHtml (Note the escaping xml at the bottom) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How to determine if printing is being a bottleneck in my code?

2012-12-04 Thread rusi
On Dec 5, 7:36 am, Roy Smith wrote: > In article <29c74a30-f017-44b5-8a3d-a3c0d6592...@googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > > > > >  SherjilOzair wrote: > > Hello list, > > > When it comes to printing things while some computation is being done, there > > are 2 extremes. > > > 1. printing speed is slow

Re: A question about readability

2012-12-07 Thread rusi
On Dec 7, 6:46 pm, Marco wrote: > Hi all, do you think this code: > > $ more myscript.py > for line in open('data.txt'): >      result = sum(int(data) for data in line.split(';')) >      print(result) > > that sums the elements of the lines of this file: > > $ more data.txt > 30;44;99;88 > 11;17;1

Re: A question about readability

2012-12-10 Thread rusi
On Dec 10, 3:03 pm, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote: > - Original Message - > > On Dec 7, 6:46 pm, Marco wrote: > > > Hi all, do you think this code: > > > > $ more myscript.py > > > for line in open('data.txt'): > > >      result = sum(int(data) for data in line.split(';')) > > >      print(

Re: samba 4 release

2012-12-12 Thread rusi
On Dec 13, 5:18 am, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 12/12/2012 04:40 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > > > Awesome!!!  But what the is it??? > > Are you serious?  You honestly don't know what one of the oldest, most > widely used piece of open source software it and what it does?  Samba is > at least as

Re: why does dead code costs time?

2012-12-12 Thread rusi
On Dec 13, 11:01 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 21:23:47 -0800, Ramchandra Apte wrote: > >> Cheers. > > >> Mark Lawrence. > > > haha. What does "Cheers" mean? > > It is an exclamation expressing good wishes. In particular, good wishes > before drinking. Think of it as a variation

Re: why does dead code costs time?

2012-12-12 Thread rusi
On Dec 13, 11:51 am, Cameron Simpson wrote: > It looked good-natured, she thought;  Still it had very long claws and a > great many teeth, so she felt it ought to be treated with respect. heh! If only we could respect without such coercion(s) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-li

Re: What are the minimum requirements to get a job in?

2012-12-13 Thread rusi
On Dec 14, 8:33 am, Dave Angel wrote: > Do you know any one computer language thoroughly?  Or just a little of > many languages? There is a quote by Bruce Lee to the effect: I am not afraid of the man who knows 10,000 kicks I am afraid of the man who has practised 1 kick 10,000 times -- http://m

Re: What are the minimum requirements to get a job in?

2012-12-13 Thread rusi
On Dec 14, 11:56 am, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: > On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 1:13 AM, rusi wrote: > > On Dec 14, 8:33 am, Dave Angel wrote: > >> Do you know any one computer language thoroughly?  Or just a little of > >> many languages? > > > There is a quote by B

Re: What are the minimum requirements to get a job in?

2012-12-14 Thread rusi
On Dec 14, 6:13 pm, Dave Angel wrote: > On 12/14/2012 01:56 AM, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 1:13 AM, rusi wrote: > >> On Dec 14, 8:33 am, Dave Angel wrote: > >>> Do you know any one computer language thoroughly?  Or just a little of &g

Re: Forcing Python to detect DocumentRoot

2013-01-17 Thread rusi
On Jan 16, 6:51 pm, Ferrous Cranus wrote: > When trying to open an html template within Python script i use a relative > path to say go one folder back and open index.html > > f = open( '../' + page ) > > How to say the same thing in an absolute way by forcing Python to detect > DocumentRoot by

Re: ANN: Python training "text movies"

2013-01-20 Thread rusi
On Jan 13, 12:08 pm, Mitya Sirenef wrote: > Sure: they play back a list of instructions on use of string methods and > list comprehensions along with demonstration in a mock-up of the > interpreter with a different display effect for commands typed into (and > printed out by) the interpeter. The s

Re: Uniquely identifying each & every html template

2013-01-21 Thread rusi
On Jan 21, 5:55 pm, alex23 wrote: > On Jan 21, 10:39 pm, Oscar Benjamin > wrote: > > > This is a very old problem (still unsolved I > > believe):http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus > > +1 internets for referencing my most favourite thought experiment > ever :) +2 Oscar for giving me th

Re: Uniquely identifying each & every html template

2013-01-21 Thread rusi
On Jan 21, 8:07 pm, Ferrous Cranus wrote: > Τη Δευτέρα, 21 Ιανουαρίου 2013 9:20:15 π.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico > έγραψε: > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Ferrous Cranus > > wrote: > > > > An .html page must retain its database counter value even if its: > > > > (r

Re: Using filepath method to identify an .html page

2013-01-22 Thread rusi
On Jan 22, 8:59 pm, Ferrous Cranus wrote: > I just need a way to CONVERT a string(absolute path) to a 4-digit unique > number with INT!!! > That's all i want!! But i cannot make it work :( I just need a way to eat my soup with a screwdriver. No I WONT use a spoon. Im starving HELP -- http://ma

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