Am 02.10.2020 um 11:58 schrieb Terry Reedy:
> On 10/1/2020 4:09 PM, Mirko via Python-list wrote:
>
>> Renaming "IDLE" to "Python IDE" (or similar) might also.
> "IDLE" intentionally echoes 'Idle', as in Eric Idle of Monty
> Python. It sta
; (or similar) to the
desktop with shortcuts to Python, IDLE and the CHM.
- Add a checkbox (default enabled) like "Start the IDLE Python
Editor/Shell" at the end of the installation procedure.
- Perhaps, if possible, add a button like "Start the IDLE Python
Editor/Shell" to the Repair/Modify/Remove Dialog.
So long and happy hacking! :-)
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everything else is done.
Which (Python) tool(s) are you currently using?
What (Python) research have you done?
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7;MINYEAR': 1,
'__annotations__': {},
'__builtins__': ,
'__doc__': None,
'__loader__': ,
'__name__': '__main__',
'__package__': None,
'__spec__': None,
'date': ,
'datetime': ,
'datetime_CAPI': 0x7fc3d1626ea0>,
'pp': ,
'sys': ,
'time': ,
'timedelta': ,
'timezone': ,
'tzinfo': }
Apologies for the awkward email word-wrap.
Note the (absence and then) changing entry for 'datetime'.
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On 18/10/2020 12:58, Mladen Gogala via Python-list wrote:
On Sat, 17 Oct 2020 22:51:11 +, Mladen Gogala wrote:
On Sat, 17 Oct 2020 18:12:16 -0400, Steve wrote:
with open("HOURLYLOG.txt", 'r') as infile:
works but, when I rename the file, the line:
with open("
On 19/10/2020 05:58, Mladen Gogala via Python-list wrote:
On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 21:00:18 +1300, dn wrote:
On 18/10/2020 12:58, Mladen Gogala via Python-list wrote:
On Sat, 17 Oct 2020 22:51:11 +, Mladen Gogala wrote:
BTW, I used this
cp /var/log/syslog ./in-file.log
#!/usr/bin/env python3
, {u'name':
u'Well-led', u'rating': u'Good'}, {u'name': u'Caring', u'rating': u'Good'},
{u'name': u'Responsive', u'rating': u'Requires improvement'}, {u'name':
u'Effective', u'rating': u'Good'}], u'rating': u'Good'}, u'reportDate':
u'2015-01-12', u'reportLinkId': u'a11c1e52-ddfd-4cd8-8b56-1b96ac287c96'}]
You may find it helpful to use the pprint ("pretty printing" library to
print data-structures in a more readable/structured format).
To "flatten" a dictionary, you must first be sure that there will be no
keys that will clash (else the second entry will completely replace the
first, without trace).
Thus, we will need to understand more about this particular definition
of "flatten" in relation to the range of incoming data. Perhaps explain
them in English first...
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at we can't "snip" or 'do some gardening', to remove unnecessary
or erroneous material, as the conversation progresses. You will notice
(as below) that this also enables a posting with multiple questions, to
be discussed point-by-point.
Now to work...
> On Sun, 18
ons which might seem 'simple' to professionals and
skilled-practitioners: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
- I use the edX platform (for non-Python training)
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oo far down the wrong path, if you good folks can help.
Right now I am plugging away on Gtk to see where that takes me.
Thank you for your help in advance!
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se platforms, plus Linux.
Really, MOSTLY, for Linux.
And I really want Python as the new core for most things.
Thanks
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sages off list, and sending a self-composed
> summary of the replies back to the list.
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MacOS, Windows or Linux (I think that I understand how to handle it for
browser-based things.)
As close to an all Python answer as possible, would be optimal.
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nt fires when flipping to the side or back,
that can then be reacted to, to reposition things.
I just need to re-figure this all out under Python, et al.
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he geometry of that monitor
monitor = s.get_monitor_geometry(m)
# This is an example output
print("Height: %s, Width: %s" % (monitor.height, monitor.width))
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ibly crushed that you won't use my app(s) /s
Bye, bye.
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On 31/10/2020 16:20, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 1:51 PM Jon Ribbens via Python-list
wrote:
On 2020-10-31, Stefan Ram wrote:
Siddhharth Choudhary writes:
I want to know why x+=1 does not return the value of the variable.
Which value? The old or the new one
On 31/10/2020 19:41, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 4:44 PM dn via Python-list
wrote:
Free advice: whatever you do, don't call @Chris a walrus!
Yeah... I do have quite a moustache, but it doesn't merit a high title
like that! :)
It's the tusks I'd
a), and ask various
colleagues 'here' to repeat the speed/performance comparisons on other
machines.
Will/should the results be identical?
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goals.
You cast yourself as 'the learner', but if you (whenever) contribute
something along these lines, there will be many who learn from you...
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olution, alongside an
embedded function alternative. (cf anything involving Counter)
- but hey, "the more the merrier..."!
Performing this sort of experiment, and making such an observation (for
oneself) is a great motivator (should one be needed) to learn Python's
built-in functions, what is available in the PSL, and locating other
similar 'riches' offered within the Python 'eco-system'!
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he edX platform - but not in Python.
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(python 3.7 | debian 10.6 | venv)
But, it could be me.
I'll try it again.
I look forward to seeing your game.
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ve, consider refactoring to use
sum()...
Web.Refs:
https://docs.python.org/3/library/functions.html
https://riptutorial.com/python/example/28509/mutable-and-immutable-as-arguments
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# no point in continuing to loop
# otherwise continue looping
Not to be recommended
- but if you are a 'glutton for punishment', don't bother with the
dictionary's 0/last entry. Instead use a for-else structure...
Such would be an excellent case-study illustration of why 'simple' beats
'complex'!
(sorry for the sardonic humor, disregard the last paragraph - most
professional coders (in fact, all that I know) eschew for-else, or-else!)
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The term 'pip' is not recognized as
the name of a cmd let ... etc.
I thought that pip is now a part of later versions of python versions 3.x. If
so, what did I do wrong?
I know this is a very elementary question for this site, but I would appreciate
any help.
Thanks,
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the add and whatever happens after that;
and the delete, likewise.
Otherwise the code must first decide which action-handler, and later,
which result-handler - but aren't they effectively the same decision?
Thus, is the reporting integral to the get (even if they are in separate
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e
follow-throughs, eg
...
elif action in [ add, delete, update]
report success/fail
...
because, at first glance, the second 'ladder' appears to be quite
dissimilar - is a different length, doesn't have the condition-clause
symmetry of the first, etc! So, our fictional maintainer can ignore the
second, correct???
Consider SRP again, and add DRY: should the "despatch" decision be made
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#x27;collect' related functionality and keep it
'together'!
Another aspect, following-on from UI comments (above). If you are using
a framework, the presentation code will largely fit within those
objects. Therefore, logically-separate from manipulating the
source-object. Another consideration (maybe) for how to structure and
relate the routines...
As a general rule, I keep print() out of functions which 'calculate' -
even, out of the Person class. This facilitates re-use, where the next
use may want to present the results differently, or merely to use the
calculation as 'input' and not present 'it' at all!
Thanks again for the input!
It is good that you are reviewing your code and considering alternate
approaches! Many others 'here' will have benefited from considering your
points/questions...
You may like to pass some information about the Free University:
- is Python the primary teaching language
- is Python widely used within various schools/departments
- is instruction in English, or...
- what does "Free" mean
- is it also $free
- is it open to (non-German) foreigners
Tschüss!
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n, but
there are caveats.
Alternately, did you mean that the above is part of a data-file?
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ination/mix of characters - until after you've
entered your [ignorant] choice - twice. Grrr!
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giving a suitable solution of this.
Please copy-paste the actual commands being used and error messages
reported.
OpSys?
Source of Python?
Source of numpy?
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On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 6:19 AM dn via Python-list
wrote:
I've got a program which accepts an optional env variable listing a single
or multiple directory for the app to use. I've done a bit of a search and
see both a comma and semicolon
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he code. Is an open() function defined somewhere?
(which will "shadow" the built-in function)
That said the description doesn't quite match.
Please copy-paste the exact error messages because there's likely
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, and enter into the REPL:
trc = open( 'nap1.log', 'a' )
trc
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'python' is not defined
Try the two commands from the command-line (rather than from within the
Python interpreter/REPL).
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On 06/12/2020 07:41, Barry Fitzgerald via Python-list wrote:
Good day,"
I purchased a book for my son and followed the directions to a T. (Coding Games
in Python)
Whenever I got to the point of of moving the "hello" file over to pgzrun is
where my trouble began.
Its not finding
le )
Trust this adds to your 'adventures' in learning Python!
Web.Refs:
https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#text-sequence-type-str
https://www.askpython.com/python/string/python-string-translate
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On 08/12/2020 12:15, Marco Sulla wrote:
On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 at 00:10, dn via Python-list wrote:
The translation phase is most easily achieved with the built-in
str.translate()
I forgot it :-)
That's down to the rich-ness of the Python eco-system!
IIRC (from previous posts) the
e does not enforce function and variable type
annotations. They can be used by third party tools such as type
checkers, IDEs, linters, etc.
>>>
which may stump whatever the aim in using get-type-hints() may have been.
If we're only talking about code-review, then (personal) comment of
'documenting' the method-definition applies.
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lass-attributes will become (actually be 'hidden'
by) instance-attributes if used on the LHS of an expression within the
class (replicating the 'two' entity problem, discussed earlier).
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Has something happened to the Planet Python feed?
- Last update: December 07, 2020 04:48 PM UTC
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e.
Code: https://bpa.st/KVGA
How this functions should look properly?
In the event of "yes" the function returns a value (return ask).
When the function calls itself, what happens to the return-ed value?
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tab-stops as eight-spaces apart.
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On 12/12/2020 15:25, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 1:23 PM dn via Python-list
wrote:
Speaking personally, I prefer the code to be included in the email.
However, it would be better to use spaces rather than tabs (Python's
preferred style, per PEP-8) because many email pac
ck", we are looking at a "queue" (per
@Cameron).
Thus, a "stack" accepts additions to 'the end', and "pops" data from the
same 'end' ("LIFO" = last-in, first-out). Whereas a "queue" also adds to
'the end', but processes/pops from the beginning ("FIFO" = first-in,
first-out).
If this ComSc-stuff is 'new', then plenty of books and web-sites discuss
such data-structures...
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On 12/12/2020 07:22, dn via Python-list wrote:
Has something happened to the Planet Python feed?
- Last update: December 07, 2020 04:48 PM UTC
Fixed! (Thanks!)
Although, still reported as an 'open' issue
https://github.com/python/planet/issues/446
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> On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 9:57 AM Mark Polesky via Python-list <
> python-list@python.org> wrote:
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>> Hi.
>>
>> # Running this script
>>
>> D = {'a':1}
>> def get_default():
>> print('Nobody expects this')
&
unction?
Other than personal-preference (which should be respected), and a
uniform default-value, what is the rationale for defaultdict over
dict.get()?
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r that in
this case their links expire/the bin 'disappears'.
After expiry, any posts 'here' with links to 'there', will be useless.
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m as advice from folk who have been 'here' and/or using
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r to read the entire report.
The good news is, that of the six languages headlined in the summaries,
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).
Async handles with timeouts implicitly.
Apologies for the lack of direct-answer. That's as far as my reading has
taken me. Hopefully someone, more in-the-know, will be able to advise...
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the required libraries somewhere and set
LD_LIBRARY_PATH or maybe LD_PRELOAD accordingly. For a few depending
libs, this works well, but it gets really nasty if glibc or big
frameworks such as GTK are involved.
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used for UX output and a
RegEx?
Second UX-consideration (and its a 'biggie'!): if a password 'fails',
how can we take the 'result' from a large and complex RegEx, and explain
to the user which [multiple] of the five requirements was/were not met?
A failure in the RegEx above tells the system not to proceed, but
doesn't tell the user is a letter is missing, a digit, ...
RegEx is extremely powerful, but 'power' is seductive - just because we
can do something doesn't make it a good idea! The Spiderman rule applies...
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On 24/12/2020 12:20, 2qdxy4rzwzuui...@potatochowder.com wrote:
On 2020-12-24 at 11:41:15 +1300,
dn via Python-list wrote:
On 24/12/2020 06:03, Sadaka Technology wrote:
hello guys,
I have this pattern for password validation (regex):
[...]
Is it my imagination, or does a password in
On 24/12/2020 12:25, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 9:42 AM dn via Python-list
wrote:
Hang-on though, look at how much 'work' is involved, compared with a
single line of RegEx! Why go to such bother? There's several reasons.
Good question! Look at this al
dot/period/stop, then it seems quite probable that our user has made
a typo! This is why some sites require an email address to be entered
twice. (but copy-paste anyone?)
Going much further than a typo-reducing/sanity-check is, per @Richard,
considerably harder - and ultimately cannot guarantee an address. Thus,
indulges in a sub-field of cyber-alchemy!
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nd trainers' use.
Contrarily, if you are looking for someone to write code for you, then
there are likely many 'here' who will be happy to quote an hourly-rate.
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On 1/3/21 5:01 PM, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote:
> Greetings list,
>
> Here's our usergroup's end of year report for 2020:
> Happy reading!
>
> https://www.pymug.com/assets/pymug_end_of_year_2020_v2.pdf
Well done @A-R!
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each day.
In both cases, arithmetic comparison-logic is possible, and library
routines exist to format various reporting-formats.
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_list ) )
print( one_character_list, end="\n" )
# taking the letters two at a time
two_character_list = permute_lists( one_character_list, letters )
print( len( two_character_list ), len( one_character_list ) * len(
letters ) )
print( two_character_list, end="\n" )
# taking the letters three at a time
three_character_list = permute_lists( two_character_list, letters )
print( len( three_character_list ), len( two_character_list ) * len(
letters ) )
print( three_character_list, end="\n" )
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. Thus, I recommend (free or $) MOOCs on the edX or
Coursera platforms (amongst others).
As you say, the profession has 'moved on' and there are fresh approaches
and new angles to get one's head around... So, it's not just "Python" then!
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Dom Grigonis ha scritto:
def powers_of_2_in(n):
s = 0
while n % 2 == 0:
s += 1
n = n // 2
return s, n
Good solution, unfortunately if the input data is zero, the function
never ends.
On 30 Nov 2023, at 02:44, Julieta Shem via Python-list
wrote:
How would
ut here---end--->8---
for n = 0 your function get stack overflow
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for n = 0 your function get stack overflow
That's right. Let's say ``assert n > 0'' before we say ``if''.
...or just:
...
if n == 0 or remainder(n, 2) != 0:
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Oscar Benjamin ha scritto:
On Sun, 3 Dec 2023 at 10:25, Julieta Shem via Python-list
wrote:
Alan Bawden writes:
def powers_of_2_in(n):
bc = (n ^ (n - 1)).bit_count() - 1
return bc, n >> bc
That's pretty fancy and likely the fastest.
It might be the fastest but it
+ ((n & 0o070707070707070707070) >> 3))
return (n % 63) + (0, 1, 1, 2)[lt]
n=0x
bit_count_64(n)
64
n=0x3ffe
bit_count_64(n)
61
bit_count_64(1 << 63)
1
...in C it would have been simpler :^)
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On 2023-12-05 14:37, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
Is there a neat, pythonic way to store values which are 'sometimes'
changed?
My particular case at the moment is calibration values for ADC inputs
which are set by running a calibration program and used by lots of
programs whi
On 2023-12-06 12:23, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
On 12/6/2023 6:35 AM, Barry Scott via Python-list wrote:
On 6 Dec 2023, at 09:32, Chris Green via Python-list
wrote:
My requirement is *slightly* more complex than just key value pairs,
it has one level of hierarchy, e.g
On 7/12/23 07:12, MRAB via Python-list wrote:
On 2023-12-06 12:23, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
On 12/6/2023 6:35 AM, Barry Scott via Python-list wrote:
On 6 Dec 2023, at 09:32, Chris Green via Python-list
wrote:
My requirement is *slightly* more complex than just key value pairs
On 2023-12-06 20:11, dn via Python-list wrote:
On 7/12/23 07:12, MRAB via Python-list wrote:
On 2023-12-06 12:23, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
On 12/6/2023 6:35 AM, Barry Scott via Python-list wrote:
On 6 Dec 2023, at 09:32, Chris Green via Python-list
wrote:
My requirement is
On 10/12/23 15:42, Steve GS via Python-list wrote:
If I enter a one-digit input or a three-digit number, the code works but if I
enter a two digit number, the if statement fails and the else condition
prevails.
tsReading = input(" Enter the " + Brand + " tes
On 2023-12-11 15:57, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
Chris Green wrote:
Is there a way to abbreviate the following code somehow?
lv = {'dev':'bbb', 'input':'1', 'name':'Leisure volts'}
sv = {'dev':'bbb'
ghlight=sort
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On 2023-12-12 08:22, Steve GS via Python-list wrote:
Maybe this already exists but
I have never seen it in any
editor that I have used.
It would be nice to have a
pull-down text box that lists
all of the searches I have
used during this session. It
would make editing a lot
easier if I could
On 2023-12-13 01:28, Steve GS via Python-list wrote:
Does anything from the Visual Studio family of software have a pull down menu
that lists previous searches so that I don’t have to enter them every time?
SGA
Visual Studio search box has a dropdown list that's shown when you press
the
> On 22 Dec 2023, at 12:39, Sibylle Koczian via Python-list
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I always install Python on Windows in the same manner:
>
> - Python is not on the path,
> - it is installed for all users,
> - the Python Launcher is installed for all users
> On 22 Dec 2023, at 14:29, Sibylle Koczian wrote:
>
> #!/usr/bin/env/python
That was what i thought you had and it will not work.
The BOM suggestion is worth trying.
Barry
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> On 22 Dec 2023, at 14:58, Christian Buhtz via Python-list
> wrote:
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> On Windows 11 it usually is the "Terminal" which is different from cmd.exe.
In terminal app you can run cmd.exe or powershell, so it is basically the same.
Barry
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> On 23 Dec 2023, at 00:15, Thomas Passin via Python-list
> wrote:
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> In neither case is the shebang line used.
As i understand it, not in front of my windows box to check.
The handler for .py file extension is set to be the py.exe
It is py.exe that understands shebang l
work with virtualenv or conda? I'm slowly getting up to speed
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On 12/23/23 10:48, Antoon Pardon wrote:
Op 22/12/2023 om 21:39 schreef DL Neil via Python-list:
Why create a DirEntry? Why not go directly to os.mkdir() or whatever?
Because I have functions with DirEntry parameters.
Python is duck-typed, so it's quite likely that if you pass some
> On 24 Dec 2023, at 00:58, Left Right via Python-list
> wrote:
>
> I'm trying to understand the contents of Wheel files
There are lots of packaging experts that hang out on
https://discuss.python.org/ you are likely to get a response there if not here
replies.
> On 24 Dec 2023, at 00:54, rbowman via Python-list
> wrote:
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> Does that work with virtualenv or conda? I'm slowly getting up to speed
> with those.
Conda is its own thing, not need for py.exe.
Once you have created the venv you do not need py.exe as you will have
py
On Sun, 24 Dec 2023 22:55:34 +, Barry wrote:
>> On 24 Dec 2023, at 00:54, rbowman via Python-list
>> wrote:
>>
>> Does that work with virtualenv or conda? I'm slowly getting up to speed
>> with those.
>
> Conda is its own thing, not need for py.exe
On 2023-12-25 19:53, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote:
On 25/12/2023 05:34, geetanajali homes via Python-list wrote:
import numpy as np
import pandas as pd
import random
import matplotlib.pyplot as plt
%matplotlib inline
I get an error on the last line. I am running this code in Idle
sume the changes will be picked up when the
scripts are restarted but this is not always acceptable.
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> On 30 Dec 2023, at 15:11, Karsten Hilbert via Python-list
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> queries = [{'SQL': 'SELECT %(value)s', 'args': {'value': 1}}]
>
> and
>
> run_queries(conn, queries:list[str|dict[str, Any]]):
In cases like this I o
> On 1 Jan 2024, at 11:14, Sibylle Koczian via Python-list
> wrote:
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> But in all this thread I didn't see a single explanation for my current
> situation: one and the same shebang line works on Windows 10 / Python 3.11
> and doesn't work on Windows 11 / Py
On 2024-01-11 18:08, Rich Shepard via Python-list wrote:
It's been several years since I've needed to write a python script so I'm
asking for advice to get me started with a brief script to separate names
and email addresses in one file into two separate files: salutation.txt and
Am 11.01.24 um 20:53 schrieb Rich Shepard via Python-list:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2024, Piergiorgio Sartor via Python-list wrote:
Why not to use bash script for all?
Piergiorgio,
That's certainly a possibility, and may well be better than python
for this
task.
Thank you,
Rich
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