taxError" will return a
useful result.
Tongue-firmly-in-cheek-ly y'rs,
+ one trillion
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Apart from that what have you tried and where did it go wrong? "I can't
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urnished a piece of information that doubtless not
one other person on this group knew.
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a bit less interesting. Worth keeping this in mind:
http://www.codeirony.com/?p=9
Stefan
I'd like to say thanks for the link but unfortunately for me, but good
news for you (plural), is that I've bust a gut laughing out loud, so I
won't :)
Oh alright then thanks for t
On 23/09/2012 19:31, jimbo1qaz wrote:
spots[y][x]=mark fails with a "'str' object does not support item assignment"
error,even though:
a=[["a"]]
a[0][0]="b"
and:
a=[["a"]]
a[0][0]=100
both work.
Spots is a nested list created as a co
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[4]http://code.activestate.com/recipes/66531-singleton-we-dont-need-no-stinkin-singleton-the-bo/
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ght it was, but my first
impression was that foolist was a play on foolish.
I also like the anti-pattern on the link namely:-
for (index, value) in enumerate(alist):
print index, value
Fancy wasting time, money and effort typing those unnecessary round
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On 24/09/2012 18:33, Duncan Booth wrote:
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 00:14:23 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote:
Purely for fun I've been porting some code to Python and came across
the singletonMap[1]. I'm aware that there are loads of recipes on
the web for both si
On 24/09/2012 20:22, Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 7:14 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
Purely for fun I've been porting some code to Python and came across the
singletonMap[1]. I'm aware that there are loads of recipes on the web for
both singletons e.g.[2] and
eing a case of if it ain't broke don't fix it.
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On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Oscar Benjamin
wrote:
> There are many situations where a little bit of attribute access magic is a
> good thing. However, operations that involve the underlying OS and that are
> prone to raising exceptions even in bug free code should not be performed
> implicitl
On 25/09/2012 03:32, Mark Adam wrote:
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Oscar Benjamin
wrote:
There are many situations where a little bit of attribute access magic is a
good thing. However, operations that involve the underlying OS and that are
prone to raising exceptions even in bug free code
In a part of one thread he referred to my family as pigs. I've
have lived with that, using the sticks and stones reply, but then
someone had the audacity to protect his stance. I am sure that people
have seen enough of his behaviour in the last few hours to see the real
Dwight Hutto so I
check what features a programming
environment or language offers before reinventing the wheel with four
sides.
Thankfully easier in a relatively concise language like Python as
opposed to (say) Java. Which reminds me, in what version of Python are
we getting the singletonMap? :)
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age. I really
appreciate and rediscover the strictness I learned with
Pascal.
So go and use go as nobody here is stopping you.
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On 25/09/2012 10:53, Chris Rebert wrote:
[snip]
Well, the PSU might, except they emphatically do not exist...
I know that they exist but if I admit to it I'd have to shoot myself.
If I can get the bra off of the debutante that is.
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How to configure python in apache2 ?
So my html embedded code will works.
Please follow the instructions that you'll find by searching the web.
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On 25/09/2012 11:38, Oscar Benjamin wrote:
On 25 September 2012 08:27, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 25/09/2012 03:32, Mark Adam wrote:
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Oscar Benjamin
wrote:
try:
f.pos = 256
except IOError:
print('Unseekable file')
Something along t
On 25/09/2012 11:51, Tim Chase wrote:
[snip]
If only other unnamed persons on the list were so gracious rather
than turning the flame-dial to 11.
Oh heck what have I said this time?
-tkc
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sing, how strange.
I think the next port of call after the standard library should be pypi
followed by the search engine, possibly targetted at sites like github,
followed by a question here. I'm not certain about the next step, help
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On 25/09/2012 12:40, Tim Chase wrote:
On 09/25/12 06:10, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 25/09/2012 11:51, Tim Chase wrote:
If only other unnamed persons on the list were so gracious rather
than turning the flame-dial to 11.
Oh heck what have I said this time?
You'd *like* to take c
On 25/09/2012 13:44, alex23 wrote:
On Sep 25, 9:39 pm, Tim Chase wrote:
Mostly instigated by one person with a
particularly quick trigger, vitriolic tongue, and a disregard for
pythonic code.
I'm sorry. I'll get me coat.
Oi, back of the queue if you don't mind :)
-
lasses.
Still, all things considered, it's a good trade.
Thanks for this reminder, my port of the J word code to Python has just
been simplified :)
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effectively shot down Ingres?
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ou know when it's time to make sure that you're safely
strapped in and reach for and use the release button for the ejector
seat. Further for somebody who is apparently up in the high tech world,
why are you using a gmail account and hence sending garbage in more ways
than one to mai
to plonk so few.
ChrisA
I tried to make a play on that some days ago and failed dismally.
Thanks for putting me out of my misery :)
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combination of Python 3.3 and unicode as Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot
amongst others knew about human rights.
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pany.
And around that time, some poor schmuck of a dev manager is telling his
team what the sales guy sold. And that they have 12 weeks to design,
build, and deliver it.
How long did you just say??? I promised it in 8 weeks, not 12 you
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ibutor. I certainly prefer
him to Xah Lee, who's attempts at improving Python documentation were
beautifully torn to pieces here, IIRC by Ethan Furman, apologies to him
and the actual author if I'm incorrect.
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an end
user, this is the only thing that counts.
The modern day Pinball Wizard? Or a physic? Or what?
jmf
#pseudo code
for _ in range(-inf, +inf, 1): print(FUD)
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On 27/09/2012 01:40, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 10:01:11 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote:
You remind me of the opening to the song Plaistow Patricia by Ian Dury
and the Blockheads.
While I always appreciate a good reference to Ian Dury, please stop
feeding D.H.'s ego by
ne has yet optimized this case.
I have taken a liberty and raised this on the bug tracker quoting Steven
D'Aprano's original figures and your response above.
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On 27/09/2012 17:16, Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 08:11:13 -0400, Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 2:13 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 09:15:00 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote: And
On 27/09/2012 07:13, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 09:15:00 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote:
Hi all,
I though this might be of interest.
http://www.ironfroggy.com/software/i-am-worried-about-the-future-of-
python
And a response:
http://data.geek.nz/python-is-doing-just
On 27/09/2012 17:49, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 2:45 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
The article Steven D'Aprano referred to is not a direct response to the
article I referred to, yet your words are written as if it were. May I ask
why? Or have I missed something?
Steven
nderfully.
I understand from an earlier post that latin-9 meets your needs
completely for all French language characters plus the Euro sign, why
don't you simply use that and stop rabitting on about latin-1.
jmf
Would you please be so kind as to stand up as your voice is rather
ch.py on both 3.2 and 3.3 on
windows. Overall, Unicode is nearly as fast as bytes and 3.3 as fast as
3.2. Find/replace is the notable exception in stringbench, so it is an
anomaly. Other things are faster in 3.3.
I think this should be raised as a performance regression.
I agree, and Mark d
asked on numerous occasions so if you search the
archives you're sure to get loads of answers.
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you be using the regex module from pypi instead of the standard library
re? Guess who's borrowed the time machine?
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s regressed the performance of ''.
Surely the Python devs can speed the performance back up and, just for
us, use less memory at the same time?
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On 29/09/2012 11:05, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
My understanding is that Python 3.3 has regressed the performance of ''.
Surely the Python devs can speed the performance back up and, just for us,
use less memory at the same time?
Y
'll say me "learn python", why should I learn it over Ruby?
Thanks!
PS: I don't want to start a flame-war, I just want an advice if it's possible
please!
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/python/129650?do=post_view_threaded
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ready being using 3.3 to use
this facility. I was hoping for a solution which was backwards
compatible with Python 2.x.
You don't need 3.3 to get py.exe. I've been running it for months, it's
available here https://bitbucket.org/vinay.sajip/pylauncher/downloads
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milar to IDLE.
Just python. With the arrival of pylauncher
http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0397/ you can also type py [options].
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here some reason not to install 3.3?
Fo those who missed it earlier you can download the launcher here
https://bitbucket.org/vinay.sajip/pylauncher/downloads , you don't need
Python 3.3.
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On 02/10/2012 17:12, Ramchandra Apte wrote:
On Monday, 1 October 2012 13:47:50 UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 01/10/2012 01:58, 8 Dihedral wrote:
Your question seems vague to me. If you know you are storing
only immutable tuples in a list, then the way to iterate is simple
or organizing
structures within the Python universe (like "object "collections" -->
{'list','set','dict'...}, for example).
mark
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rror-prone, non-obvious solutions.
Peter Otten's response is obviously vastly superior to yours, 4 tests in
0.000s compared to your highly inefficient 4 tests in 0.001s :)
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On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Steven D'Aprano <
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote:
> C++ namespaces are useful for encapsulating related objects within a
> single file, subdividing the global namespace without using classes.
> Python has modules, but they come in separate files.
>
> Us
e.org/gmane.comp.python.general shows the last post
was the Steven D'Aprano thread titled "Emulating C++ namespaces with ChainMap
and metaclass trickery" on 3 Oct at 20:26.
I've tried flagging this up but obviously with no success. Anyone any ideas on
how to sort this out?
Kindes
tiple repeat
why the "\s{6}+" is not a regular pattern?
Why are you too lazy to do any research before posting a question?
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ensured that Australia won the next Test Match
ChrisA
may need to schedule surgical detongueing of his cheek
I'll arrange the cheek detonguing very cheaply after a comment like that :)
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I'm sure that with some appropriate grovelling the PSF could arrange
this. Perhaps fly everybody to the UK for PyCon and get the surgery
done on the NHS at the same time.
Ramit
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ESP, a crystal ball, and
a mind-reader!)
~Ethan~
My probably highly uneducated guess is that "Python-provided attribute"
refers to double underscore names. YMMV by several trillion light years :)
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a starting point as any
http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t716131-challenge-escape-from-the-pysandbox.html
?
Also throw "python experimental sandbox" into your search engine and
follow your nose, something might come up smelling of roses :)
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ersion - particularly for testing - eg:
% py -3.2 script.py
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his exercise. How
can we make each group of words (e.g. car-automobile, jounrney-voyage,
gem-jewel)
sorted according to their similarity value?
Thanks for your tips.
In your for loop save the data in a list rather than print it out and
sort according to this
http://wiki.python.org/moin/HowTo/Sorting#Operator_Module_Functions
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the 'in' keyword.
I see you've already corrected youself :)
if "' in mystring:
No need to escape any ASCII characters except backslash.
No need to escape anything if raw strings are used.
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Something like:-
if "{" in line or "}" in line or line not in lines_seen:
outfile.close()
But it deletes also the lines with a closing bracket } and the lines with the
same authordata.
Therefor i need the condition of the brackets.
Could someone point me out to adding this
s readable, your use of CrapMail
made life difficult until I stripped the superfluous newlines out. Is
it really so awkward to equip yourself with a semi-decent mail reader?
Like Thunderbird, hint, hint :)
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'd also be willing to pay for a suitable
tool.
Windows or *ix tools would be fine.
Any suggestions about things to check into?
I've found clonedigger very useful http://clonedigger.sourceforge.net/
Not what you're asking for but figleaf is good as well
http://darcs.idyll.org/~t/
onder
if he's *STILL* researching?
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On 13/10/2012 23:26, Joshua Landau wrote:
On 13 October 2012 23:13, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 13/10/2012 22:31, Joshua Landau wrote:
With two irritants (including 8), is it not advisable that python-list
gets an admin to block these accounts? Even if it does nothing more than
slow them
On 13/10/2012 23:52, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 13/10/2012 23:26, Joshua Landau wrote:
On 13 October 2012 23:13, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 13/10/2012 22:31, Joshua Landau wrote:
With two irritants (including 8), is it not advisable that
python-list
gets an admin to block these accounts
rror doing PIL.Image.open():", sys.exc_info()[0])
raise
[snip]
Vincent
You've already had some advice so I'll just point out that a bare except
is a bad idea as you wouldn't even be able to catch a user interrupt.
Try (groan!) catching StandardError i
On 14/10/2012 11:06, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 10/14/2012 4:20 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
You've already had some advice so I'll just point out that a bare except
is a bad idea as you wouldn't even be able to catch a user interrupt.
Try (groan!) catching StandardError instead.
Ther
7;d want would
be FUD or worse still complete crap being written in response to any
thread and me not being in a position to reply. Is this something for
the Python community here to be thinking about?
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On 15/10/2012 14:55, Debashish Saha wrote:
how to insert random error in a programming?
Just use some of my code, it's far more random than that suggested by
others who've replied to your query.
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'f n onq vqrn.
Vs gur vzcyrzragngvba vf rnfl gb rkcynva, vg znl or n tbbq vqrn.
Anzrfcnprf ner bar ubaxvat terng vqrn -- yrg'f qb zber bs gubfr!"""
d = {}
for c in (65, 97):
for i in range(26):
d[chr(i+c)] = chr((i+13) % 26 + c)
print ""
On 15/10/2012 20:51, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 6:28 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
I like clearly written code like this
"
d = {}
for c in (65, 97):
for i in range(26):
d[chr(i+c)] = chr((i+13) % 26 + c)
print "".join([d.get(c, c) for c in s])
S
On 17/10/2012 05:16, 8 Dihedral wrote:
What you really want is b=a.copy()
not b=a to disentangle two objects.
__eq__ is used in the comparison operation.
The winner Smartest Answer by a Bot Award 2012 :)
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start my campaign to be the first world president.
Seven votes at the last count, another 3.5 billion and I'm first past
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http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonTestingToolsTaxonomy and an active
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sed? Any preferences?
-[]z.
I suggest re-reading PEP 8, particularly the section titled "A Foolish
Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Little Minds" and specifically the first
sentence of the third paragraph "But most importantly: know when to be
inconsistent -- sometimes
Good morning/afternoon/evening all,
Where is this specific usage documented as my search engine skills have
let me down? By this I mean entering help() without parameters to get
the following output and then the help> prompt.
C:\Users\Mark\workspace\CrossCode>py -3
Python 3.3.0 (
On 19/10/2012 09:56, Duncan Booth wrote:
Mark Lawrence wrote:
Good morning/afternoon/evening all,
Where is this specific usage documented as my search engine skills have
let me down? By this I mean entering help() without parameters to get
the following output and then the help> pro
/4750806/how-to-install-pip-on-windows :)
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named a quite well known programming
language after a humorous BBC television programme?
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rary/stdtypes.html#typememoryview only
gives examples of equality comparisons and there was nothing that I
could see in PEP3118 to explain the rationale behind the lack of other
comparisons. What have I missed?
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re is not :-)
In the end I am going to what to get triples, quads... also.
Thanks
Vincent
I suggest that you try taking slices out of your apple :) Start here
http://docs.python.org/tutorial/introduction.html
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On 22/10/2012 17:01, nepaul wrote:
Try using a search engine for specific Python issues that you'd like to
read up on. If you can't find what you want please ask a specific
question, that way you're far more likely to get some answers.
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On 21/10/2012 12:24, Mark Lawrence wrote:
http://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/3.3.html states "memoryview
comparisons now use the logical structure of the operands and compare
all array elements by value". So I'd have thought that you should be
able to compare them and hence sort
re using, has killed itself its
own performances.
(Replace 'apple' with 'ap需')
jmf
Please stop giving blatant lies on this list about Python speed.
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-- Alain.
Although practicality beats purity :)
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do it for
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ct?
why the prog is having this error with self nd x as arguments ???
What x argument? Clearly wrong as I've pointed out above.
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???
What x argument? Clearly wrong as I've pointed out above. How can i
correct it ??
Put whatever it is you want appended to self.data in the call to
y.addtwice. And/or get addtwice to return the correct data type.
And/or correct anything that I've missed like I did the first
. What rubbish. It should
either have been 4 million amps through it or 4 million volts across it.
I'm +1 for the former, although possibly biased by history.
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x27;ll need it to implement those operations, or their equivalents in
terms of union and intersection.)
Or do I need to drop into C for this?
If needed bitarray and bitstring are available on pypi.
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" solution using bin() and count() about 600
times faster than the mathematically clever solution using bitwise
operations.
You meant 600% I think?
It took six times longer to do one hundredth the iterations.
ChrisA
Oh no, not another PEP 393 foul up :)
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