Re: programming by evolution?

2009-02-09 Thread Xah Lee
Xah Lee wrote: > ... > if you want software engineering books, i suggest try some books that > are based on statistical survey, as opposed to some dignitary's > “opinion” or current fashion & trends that comes with a jargon. These > type of books are a dime a dozen, ever

which language has syntax that visually represent a tree? [was X#]

2009-02-11 Thread Xah Lee
syntax that represent a tree purely [was X#] On Jan 21, 3:13 am, Pascal Costanza wrote: > LOL: http://www.xsharp.org/samples/ Today, i was nosing about some blogs, which made me come to: http://blog.fogus.me/2009/02/06/yegge-clojure-arc-and-lolita-or-days-of-future-past in which he wrote: «Now

some history of computing and celebrities [was lisp machine keyboards]

2009-02-12 Thread Xah Lee
On Feb 12, 7:28 am, Xah Lee wrote: > lisp machine keyboards. > > • Knite keyboard. I think this is one of the > earlist.http://world.std.com/~jdostale/kbd/Knight.html > > • Symbolics earlier style keyboard (PN 364000), by Peter > Painehttp://www.asl.dsl.pipex.com/sy

Herald: Python surpasses Perl in popularity!

2008-11-24 Thread Xah Lee
herald: Python surpasses Perl in popularity! According to “TIOBE Programming Community Index for November 2008” at http://www.tiobe.com/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html it seems that Python has surpassed Perl in popularity this month! Good for Python! From my own personal experience in the pro

what's so difficult about namespace?

2008-11-25 Thread Xah Lee
comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.perl.misc,comp.lang.python,comp.lang.java.programmer 2008-11-25 Recently, Steve Yegge implemented Javascript in Emacs lisp, and compared the 2 languages. http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/ http://code.google.com/p/ejacs/ One of his point is about emac

Re: what's so difficult about namespace?

2008-11-26 Thread Xah Lee
On Nov 26, 5:45 am, Joshua Cranmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i cannot fathom what could possibly be difficult of > > introducing or implementing a namespace mechanism into a language. > > Namespaces go to the very core of a language, name resolution. > Retroactively adding such a feature is ex

Re: Python surpasses Perl in popularity?

2008-11-26 Thread Xah Lee
nked. You'll get a survey of today's languages, what they are, what they do, their nature, their field, and where the landscape of languages might be tomorrow. plain text version follows. --- Back to Computing and Its People. Proliferation of Computing Language

Re: what's so difficult about namespace?

2008-11-26 Thread Xah Lee
Xah Lee wrote: > > i cannot fathom what could possibly be difficult of > > introducing or implementing a namespace mechanism into a language. I > > do not understand, why so many languages that lacks so much needed > > namespace for so long? If it is a social probl

Re: what's so difficult about namespace?

2008-11-26 Thread Xah Lee
On Nov 26, 8:42 am, Stefan Behnel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > XahLeewrote: > >> The IT community has enough trouble getting a few ISPs to upgrade their > >> DNS software. How are you going to get millions of general users to > >> upgrade? > > > alright, that's speaks for Javascript. > > > But how

Re: what's so difficult about namespace?

2008-11-26 Thread Xah Lee
Xah Lee wrote: > i cannot fathom what could possibly be difficult of > introducing or implementing a namespace mechanism into a language. Joshua Cranmer wrote: >> Namespaces go to the very core of a language, name resolution. >> Retroactively adding such a feature is extremely

Re: what's so difficult about namespace?

2008-11-26 Thread Xah Lee
dumb and blind can all still lead a happy and fruitful life. There is no crisis! Xah ∑ http://xahlee.org/ ☄ On Nov 26, 1:32 pm, Kaz Kylheku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2008-11-26, Xah Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.functional,comp.la

Re: what's so difficult about namespace?

2008-11-27 Thread Xah Lee
On Nov 26, 4:57 pm, Kaz Kylheku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2008-11-26, Xah Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Can you see, how you latched your personal beef about anti software > > crisis philosophy into this no namespace thread? > > I did no such thi

Re: Python surpasses Perl in popularity?

2008-11-29 Thread Xah Lee
Great to see quality post from real expert once in a while. Thanks! Xah ∑ http://xahlee.org/ ☄ On Nov 29, 9:03 am, Stephane CHAZELAS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's a common confusion in this in the nature of /bin/sh. > There's no standard (neither POSIX nor Unix) that specifies that > /b

Mathematica 7 compares to other languages

2008-11-30 Thread Xah Lee
Wolfram Research's Mathematica Version 7 has just been released. See: http://www.wolfram.com/products/mathematica/index.html Among it's marketing material, it has a section on how mathematica compares to competitors. http://www.wolfram.com/products/mathematica/analysis/ And on this page, there

Re: Mathematica 7 compares to other languages

2008-11-30 Thread Xah Lee
On Nov 30, 7:30 pm, Xah Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wolfram Research's Mathematica Version 7 has just been released. > > See: http://www.wolfram.com/products/mathematica/index.html > > Among it's marketing material, it has a section on how mathematica

Re: Mathematica 7 compares to other languages

2008-12-02 Thread Xah Lee
2008-12-01 On Dec 1, 4:06 pm, Jon Harrop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Xah Lee wrote: > > And on this page, there are sections where Mathematica is compared to > > programing langs, such as C, C++, Java, and research langs Lisp, > > ML, ..., and scripting langs Python,

Re: Mathematica 7 compares to other languages

2008-12-02 Thread Xah Lee
On Dec 2, 12:21 pm, Lew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Xah Lee wrote: > > LOL Jon. r u trying to get me to do otimization for you free? > > These are professional software development forums, not some script- > kiddie cellphone-based chat room. "r" is spel

Re: Mathematica 7 compares to other languages

2008-12-02 Thread Xah Lee
On Dec 2, 5:13 pm, Jon Harrop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > XahLeewrote: > > On Dec 1, 4:06 pm, Jon Harrop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Mathematica is a whopping 700,000 times slower! > > > LOL Jon. r u trying to get me to do otimization for you free? > > > how about pay me $5 thru paypal? I'm pr

Re: Mathematica 7 compares to other languages

2008-12-03 Thread Xah Lee
On Dec 3, 8:24 am, Jon Harrop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My example demonstrates several of Mathematica's fundamental limitations. enough babble Jon. Come flying $5 to my paypal account, and i'll give you real code, amongest the programing tech geekers here for all to see. I'll show, what kind

Re: Mathematica 7 compares to other languages

2008-12-03 Thread Xah Lee
your judgement), or it turns out Mathematica 6 is necessary, or any problem that might occure, i offer money back guarantee. Xah ∑ http://xahlee.org/ ☄ On Dec 3, 2:12 pm, "Thomas M. Hermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 3, 3:15 pm, Xah Lee <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Mathematica 7 compares to other languages

2008-12-03 Thread Xah Lee
On Dec 3, 4:22 pm, "Thomas M. Hermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 3, 5:26 pm, Xah Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Agreed. My paypal address is “xah @@@ xahlee.org”. (replace the triple > > @ to single one.) Once you paid thru paypa

Re: Mathematica 7 compares to other languages

2008-12-04 Thread Xah Lee
alright, here's my improved code, pasted near the bottom. let me say a few things about Jon's code. If we rate that piece of mathematica code on the level of: Beginner Mathematica programer, Intermediate, Advanced, where Beginner is someone who just learned tried to program Mathematica no more t

Re: Mathematica 7 compares to other languages

2008-12-05 Thread Xah Lee
On Dec 4, 6:09 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > For the interested, with MMA 6, on a Pentium 4 3.8Ghz: > > The code that Jon posted: > > Timing[Export["image-jon.pgm", [EMAIL PROTECTED]@Main[2, 100, 4]]] > {80.565, "image-jon.pgm"} > > The code that Xah posted: > > Timing[Export["image-xah.pgm", [EMA

Re: Mathematica 7 compares to other languages

2008-12-07 Thread Xah Lee
For those interested in this Mathematica problem, i've now cleaned up the essay with additional comments here: • A Mathematica Optimization Problem http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/writ/Mathematica_optimization.html The result and speed up of my code can be verified by anyone who has Mathema

Re: tabs and spaces in py3k

2008-12-07 Thread inyeol . lee
On Dec 7, 8:51 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The following code works under 2.6 > > def foo(): > a = 1 > <.tab..>b = 1 > > but results in a TabError in Python 3k > > File "x.py", line 3 > b = 3 > ^ > TabError: inconsistent use of tabs and spaces in indentation > > T

Re: Mathematica 7 compares to other languages

2008-12-08 Thread Xah Lee
On Dec 8, 5:10 am, Jon Harrop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Xah Lee wrote: > > For those interested in this Mathematica problem, i've now cleaned up > > the essay with additional comments here: > > > • A Mathematica Optimization Problem > >

Re: Mathematica 7 compares to other languages

2008-12-08 Thread Xah Lee
2008-12-08 Xah Lee wrote: > > Also, in this discussion, thanks to Thomas M Hermann's $20 offered to > > me for my challenge to you, that i have taken the time to show working > > code that demonstrate many problems in your code. A moron, wrote: > You failed the cha

Re: Mathematica 7 compares to other languages

2008-12-08 Thread Xah Lee
Dear George Neuner, Xah Lee wrote: > >The phenomenon of creating code that are inefficient is proportional > >to the highlevelness or power of the lang. In general, the higher > >level of the lang, the less possible it is actually to produce a code > >that is as efficie

Re: Mathematica 7 compares to other languages

2008-12-09 Thread Xah Lee
On Dec 8, 4:56 pm, Jon Harrop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Xah Lee wrote: > > A moron, wrote: > > > You failed the challenge that you were given. > > > you didn't give me a challenge. > > Thomas gave you the challenge: > > "What I want in

Re: Mathematica 7 compares to other languages

2008-12-09 Thread Xah Lee
On Dec 8, 4:56 pm, Jon Harrop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Xah Lee wrote: > > A moron, wrote: > > > You failed the challenge that you were given. > > > you didn't give me a challenge. > > Thomas gave you the challenge: > > "What I want in

Re: Mathematica 7 compares to other languages

2008-12-09 Thread Xah Lee
On Dec 8, 5:25 pm, Terry Reedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lest anyone doubt that problem size is important for comparing program > run times, consider ... just in case there's any doubt: Simply change these lines in Jon's program: Main[9, 512, 4] to Main[9, 512, 4.] and it will run faster. A

Re: Mathematica 7 compares to other languages

2008-12-09 Thread Xah Lee
On Dec 8, 4:07 am, Jon Harrop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Well, its past 'tonight' and 6 hours to go till past 'tomorrow'. > > Where the hell is it Zah Zah? > > Note that this program takes several days to compute in Mathematica (even > though it takes under four secon

Re: Mathematica 7 compares to other languages

2008-12-09 Thread Xah Lee
Jon Harrop moron wrote: > Only for trivial input and not for the challenge you were given. what challenge? > That code is evaluated once to build the scene. There is no point in > optimizing it. The point is optimizing your incompetence. > That performance issue only affects trivial problems an

looking up function's doc in emacs

2008-12-10 Thread Xah Lee
in programing elisp in emacs, i can press “Ctrl+h f” to lookup the doc for the function under cursor. is there such facility when coding in perl, python, php? (i'm interested in particular python. In perl, i can work around with “perldoc -f functionName”, and in php it's php.net/functionName. Bot

Re: Mathematica 7 compares to other languages

2008-12-10 Thread Xah Lee
Xah Lee wrote: > > Let's say for example, we want to write a function that takes a vector > > (of linear algebra), and return a vector in the same direction but > > with length 1. In linear algebar terminology, the new vector is called > > the “normalized” vector of

Re: Mathematica 7 compares to other languages

2008-12-10 Thread Xah Lee
Xah Lee wrote: > > For those of you who don't know linear algebra but knows coding, this > > means, we want a function whose input is a list of 3 elements say > > {x,y,z}, and output is also a list of 3 elements, say {a,b,c}, with > > the condition that > > &g

Re: Mathematica 7 compares to other languages

2008-12-10 Thread Xah Lee
On Dec 10, 2:47 pm, John W Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Xah Lee wrote: > > In lisp, python, perl, etc, you'll have 10 or so lines. In C or Java, > > you'll have 50 or hundreds lines. > > C: > > #include > #include > > void normal(i

Re: Mathematica 7 compares to other languages

2008-12-11 Thread Xah Lee
On Dec 11, 12:32 am, Gerard flanagan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Xah Lee wrote: > > On Dec 10, 2:47 pm, John W Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Xah Lee wrote: > >>> In lisp, python, perl, etc, you'll have 10 or so lines. In C

Re: Mathematica 7 compares to other languages

2008-12-11 Thread Xah Lee
Xah Lee wrote: • A Example of Mathematica's Expressiveness http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/writ/Mathematica_expressiveness.html On Dec 11, 3:53 am, "William James" wrote: > function normal( ary ) > { var div = Math.sqrt( > ary.map(function(x) x*x).reduce(functio

Re: Mathematica 7 compares to other languages

2008-12-11 Thread Xah Lee
On Dec 10, 2:47 pm, John W Kennedy wrote: > Xah Lee wrote: > > In lisp, python, perl, etc, you'll have 10 or so lines. In C or Java, > > you'll have 50 or hundreds lines. > > C: > > #include > #include > > void normal(int dim, float* x, f

Re: Mathematica 7 compares to other languages

2008-12-11 Thread Xah Lee
On Dec 11, 6:50 am, the.brown.dragon.b...@gmail.com wrote: ;; Chicken Scheme. By the.brown.dragon...@gmail.com (require 'srfi-1) (define (normalize vec) (map (cute / <> (sqrt (reduce + 0 (map (cute expt <> 2) vec vec)) Is it possible to make it work in scsh? (i'm running scsh 0.6.4, and don'

How to write binary data to file and socket

2008-12-12 Thread Lee Soin
Hello, all! I'm new to python. In Linux C programming, writing data to file and socket share the same system call "write". But it seems that only data of string type can be used for "write" and "send". So how to write binary data to file and socket? -- Sun Li Department of Physics Nanjing Univers

Re: Mathematica 7 compares to other languages

2008-12-25 Thread Xah Lee
> >On Dec 10, 2:47 pm, John W Kennedy wrote: > >> C: > > >> #include > >> #include > > >> void normal(int dim, float* x, float* a) { > >> float sum = 0.0f; > >> int i; > >> float divisor; > >> for (i = 0; i < dim; ++i) sum += x[i] * x[i]; > >> divisor = sqrt(sum); > >> fo

error on windows with commands.getstatusoutput

2008-12-28 Thread Lee Harr
My application is trying to start twistd in a cross-platform way. Unfortunately, it works fine on my linux system, but I do not have windows, and I am trying to debug this remotely on a system I never use :o( Anyhow, here is the error I am getting: cmd = '%s -y %s -l %s' % (conf.twistd, conf.t

RE: error on windows with commands.getstatusoutput

2008-12-28 Thread Lee Harr
>> cmd = '%s -y %s -l %s' % (conf.twistd, conf.tztac, conf.twistdlog) >> status, output = commands.getstatusoutput(cmd) > The commands module is Unix only. See its documentation : > http://docs.python.org/library/commands.html Ah. Doh! I was going back and forth between all of the different wa

HTML Correctness and Validators

2008-12-28 Thread Xah Lee
/html_correctness.html plain text version follows. --- HTML Correctness and Validators Xah Lee, 2008-12-28 Some notes about html correctness and html validator. Condition Of Website Correctness My website “xahlee.org” has close to 4000 html files. All are valid html files. “Valid” here

RE: error on windows with commands.getstatusoutput

2008-12-31 Thread Lee Harr
> Anyhow, I've replaced it with this: > > > from subprocess import Popen, PIPE, STDOUT > p = Popen(cmd, shell=True, stdin=PIPE, stdout=PIPE, > stderr=STDOUT, close_fds=True) > output, unused = p.communicate() > status = p.returncode > > > Does that look more

Why not Ruby?

2008-12-31 Thread Xah Lee
Just spent 3 hours looking into Ruby today. Here's my short impression for those interested. * Why Not Ruby? http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/writ/why_not_Ruby.html plain text version follows: -- Why Not Ruby? Xah Lee, 2008-12-31 Spent about 3

[ANN] TZMud 0.8

2009-01-04 Thread Lee Harr
TZMud is a Python MUD server. http://tzmud.googlecode.com/ A MUD is a text-based virtual environment accessed via telnet, or with a specialised MUD client. TZMud development is still in early stages, focusing on API and server stability. TZMud uses several high-quality Python libraries to facil

[ANN] TZMud 0.7

2008-11-15 Thread Lee Harr
TZMud is a Python MUD server. http://tzmud.googlecode.com/ A MUD is a text-based virtual environment accessed via telnet, or with a specialised MUD client. TZMud development is still in early stages, focusing on API and server stability. TZMud uses several high-quality Python libraries to fa

Re: Python 3 __cmp__ semantic change?

2008-11-20 Thread Inyeol . Lee
On Nov 20, 1:18 pm, Johannes Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello group, > > I'm porting some code of mine to Python 3. One class has the __cmp__ > operator overloaded, but comparison doesn't seem to work anymore with that: > > Traceback (most recent call last): >   File "./parse", line 25, in

Re: programming by evolution?

2009-02-23 Thread Xah Lee
On Feb 23, 4:56 am, Roedy Green wrote: > On 19 Feb 2009 18:56:42 GMT, Albert van der Horst > wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone > who said : > > >Note here, that eXtreme > >>Programing is one of the snake oil, > > Extreme programming is a variant on Deming's idea of constant > incremental

Re: reading file to list

2009-02-25 Thread Xah Lee
On Feb 25, 3:34 am, nick_keighley_nos...@hotmail.com wrote: > the nasty cons then only appears in a single function which > you can hide in a library I think the following answers that. Q: If you don't like cons, lisp has arrays and hashmaps, too. A: Suppose there's a lang called gisp. In gisp,

Re: reading file to list

2009-02-25 Thread Xah Lee
On Feb 25, 10:18 am, Xah Lee wrote: > On Feb 25, 3:34 am, nick_keighley_nos...@hotmail.com wrote: > > > the nasty cons then only appears in a single function which > > you can hide in a library > > I think the following answers that. > > Q: If you don't like

Re: a look at the browser scene & emacs

2009-02-26 Thread Xah Lee
On Feb 26, 12:57 am, Miles Bader wrote: > There is ample room for people to discuss this evolution, but approaches > that start with "first, toss out the existing user interface" aren't gonna > fly. Who said to toss out existing user interface, you? Are you saying that i start my suggestion wit

Re: a look at the browser scene & emacs

2009-02-26 Thread Xah Lee
On Feb 26, 1:59 am, Tassilo Horn wrote: > Xah Lee writes: > > Hi Xah, > > > is the suggestion of using modern standard shortcut set of X C V for > > Cut, Copy, Paste, of which Linux uses, means it is turning emacs to a > > fancy Notepad clone? > > The func

Ban Xah Lee

2009-03-07 Thread Xah Lee
Of interest: • Why Can't You Be Normal? http://xahlee.org/Netiquette_dir/why_cant_you_be_normal.html • Ban Xah Lee http://xahlee.org/Netiquette_dir/ban_Xah_Lee.html I consider this post relevant because i've been perennially gossiped about in comp.lang.* groups today and in the pa

Which Lisp to Learn?

2009-03-07 Thread Xah Lee
Favorite Lisp Xah Lee, 2009-03-04 Javier wrote: “What open source implementation of Lisp do you prefer and why?” My fav is Emacs Lisp. Because it is practical. More or less the most widely used lisp today. Considered as a tool, it has probably some 10 times more users than either Common Lisp or

Re: Ban Xah Lee

2009-03-09 Thread Xah Lee
Christian wrote: On Mar 9, 1:22 pm, Christian wrote: > XahLeeschrieb:> Of interest: > > > • Why Can't You Be Normal? > > http://xahlee.org/Netiquette_dir/why_cant_you_be_normal.html > > IMHO the point that you never reply to responds is what makes it > problematic. > I have seen 10 or more t

Re: Ban Xah Lee

2009-03-27 Thread Xah Lee
01&dq=xah+lee#PPA401,M1 Hilarious! (^o^) He says: “... Barely considering du, he is easily to be neglected”. What the hell does that mean!!? :) Xah ∑ http://xahlee.org/ ☄ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: how to use "heapq" module as a max-heap?

2009-03-29 Thread Kevin Lee
I suppose you could wrap your value type in a class and reimplement the builtin __cmp__ method to make it behave reversely or if it's a builtin numeric value type you could even push the negative into the heap in the first place? 2009/3/29 Apollo > > as we all known, in the standard module 'heapq

Re: video capture in Python ? (Tim Roberts)

2009-04-12 Thread Miles Lee
Hi, You could try the python wrapper for OpenCV, here is the link: http://code.google.com/p/ctypes-opencv/ Regards Miles -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

multi-core software

2009-06-04 Thread Xah Lee
Of interest: • Why Must Software Be Rewritten For Multi-Core Processors? http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/writ/multi-core_software.html plain text version follows. -- Why Must Software Be Rewritten For Multi-Core Processors? Xah Lee, 2009-06

Re: The Complexity And Tedium of Software Engineering

2009-06-04 Thread Xah Lee
On Jun 3, 11:50 pm, Xah Lee wrote: > Of interest: > • The Complexity And Tedium of Software Engineering > http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/writ/programer_frustration.html Addendum: The point in these short examples is not about software bugs or problems. It illustrates, how seemingl

Re: Python's doc problems: sort

2008-05-20 Thread Xah Lee
I offer the python community complete rewrite of the Python doc. The resulting doc would be one of the best technical writing among Open Source community's documentations. (a fair verification can be obtained by polling professional writers and editor community, e.g. staff writers of Time Mag or ot

Re: Markov Analysis Help

2008-05-22 Thread Andrew Lee
dave wrote: Hi Guys, I've written a Markov analysis program and would like to get your comments on the code As it stands now the final input comes out as a tuple, then list, then tuple. Something like ('the', 'water') ['us'] ('we', 'took')..etc... I'm still learning so I don't know any ad

Re: Python is slow

2008-05-22 Thread Andrew Lee
cm_gui wrote: Python is slow.Almost all of the web applications written in Python are slow. Zope/Plone is slow, sloow, so very slooow. Even Google Apps is not faster. Neither is Youtube. Facebook and Wikipedia (Mediawiki), written in PHP, are so much faster than Python. Okay, they probab

Re: Why is math.pi slightly wrong?

2008-05-22 Thread Andrew Lee
Mensanator wrote: On May 22, 11:32 am, "Dutton, Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've noticed that the value of math.pi -- just entering it at the interactive prompt -- is returned as 3.1415926535897931, whereas (as every pi-obsessive knows) the value is 3.1415926535897932... (Note the 2 at the

Re: Why is math.pi slightly wrong?

2008-05-22 Thread Andrew Lee
Dan Upton wrote: On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Mensanator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On May 22, 11:32 am, "Dutton, Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've noticed that the value of math.pi -- just entering it at the interactive prompt -- is returned as 3.1415926535897931, whereas (as every pi-

Re: MVC

2008-05-22 Thread Andrew Lee
George Maggessy wrote: Hi Gurus, I'm a Java developer and I'm trying to shift my mindset to start programming python. So, my first exercise is to build a website. However I'm always falling back into MVC pattern. I know it's a standard, but the implementation language affects the use of design p

Re: Write bits in file

2008-05-23 Thread Andrew Lee
Tim Roberts wrote: Monica Leko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have a specific format and I need binary representation. Does Python have some built-in function which will, for instance, represent number 15 in exactly 10 bits? For the record, I'd like to point out that even C cannot do this. You

Re: can python do some kernel stuff?

2008-05-23 Thread Andrew Lee
Jimmy wrote: Hi to all python now has grown to a versatile language that can accomplish tasks for many different purposes. However, AFAIK, little is known about its ability of kernel coding. So I am wondering if python can do some kernel coding that used to be the private garden of C/C++. For e

Re: [Regexes] Stripping puctuation from a text

2008-05-23 Thread Andrew Lee
shabda raaj wrote: I want to strip punctuation from text. So I am trying, p = re.compile('[a-zA-Z0-9]+') p.sub('', 'I love tomatoes!! hell yeah! ... Why?') ' !! ! ... ?' Which gave me all the chars which I want to replace. So Next I tried by negating the regex, p = re.compile('^[a-zA-Z0

Re: php vs python

2008-05-23 Thread Andrew Lee
notbob wrote: I'm not posting this just to initiate some religious flame war, though it's the perfect subject to do so. No, I actaully want some serious advice about these two languages and since I think usenet is the best arena to find it, here ya' go. So, here's my delimna: I want to start a

Re: can python do some kernel stuff?

2008-05-23 Thread Andrew Lee
Jimmy wrote: On May 23, 3:05 pm, Andrew Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jimmy wrote: Hi to all python now has grown to a versatile language that can accomplish tasks for many different purposes. However, AFAIK, little is known about its ability of kernel coding. So I am wondering if pyth

Re: can python do some kernel stuff?

2008-05-23 Thread Andrew Lee
Diez B. Roggisch wrote: Jimmy schrieb: On May 23, 3:05 pm, Andrew Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jimmy wrote: Hi to all python now has grown to a versatile language that can accomplish tasks for many different purposes. However, AFAIK, little is known about its ability of kernel coding

Re: can python do some kernel stuff?

2008-05-23 Thread Andrew Lee
Diez B. Roggisch wrote: Andrew Lee schrieb: Diez B. Roggisch wrote: Jimmy schrieb: On May 23, 3:05 pm, Andrew Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jimmy wrote: Hi to all python now has grown to a versatile language that can accomplish tasks for many different purposes. However, AFAIK, lit

Re: How do I tell "imconplete input" from "valid input"?

2008-05-29 Thread Inyeol . Lee
On May 29, 9:26 am, たか <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I am developing the console which has the embedded Python interactive > interpreter. So, I want to judge whether current command is complete > or not. Below is good example to solve this problem. > // > //http://effbot.org/pyfaq/

Printing a text file using Python

2008-06-01 Thread Robin Lee
Serge: in your code i believe that you did one read of your whole input file, and then you emitted that to the dc with textout. textout's use is actually (x,y,string). hence one line got printed (actually the whole file got printed but truncated) you will have to detect all the end of lines

wxPython: How can I get window's HANDLE in wxPython.

2008-07-02 Thread Leo Lee
I need a window's handle to be passed to external c++. Thanks in advance -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How to serialize and deserialize the objects into memory?

2008-07-11 Thread Inyeol . Lee
On Jul 11, 12:58 pm, hardemr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I want to serialize and deserialize the objects into Memory not into > file. How can i do that? pickle.dumps and pickle.loads. --Inyeol -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

wxpython: visual effects missing after py2exe

2008-07-16 Thread Leo Lee
Please take close look at the details of the two snapshots. I need explanation and correcting this problem. begin 666 after.png MB5!.1PT*&@[EMAIL PROTECTED];0```#-" ,```#GL'7)`7-21T(`KLX< MZ01G04U!``"[EMAIL PROTECTED]>B8``("[EMAIL PROTECTED]@``'4P M``#J8 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ```P!03%1%

Re: wxPython: How can I get window's HANDLE in wxPython.

2008-07-16 Thread Leo Lee
Thank you , Mike. "Mike Driscoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ??:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jul 2, 8:40 pm, "Leo Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I need a window's handle to be passed to external c++. > Thanks in advance Are you talking about a wxPython wx.Win

Re: wxpython: visual effects missing after py2exe

2008-07-16 Thread Leo Lee
"optimize": 2, "ascii": 1, "bundle_files": 1}}, zipfile = None, windows = [test_wx], ) "Leo Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> дÈëÏûÏ¢ÐÂÎÅ:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Please take close look at the details of the two snapshots. > I need explanation and correcting this problem. > > -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Printing a text file using Python

2008-08-11 Thread Robin Lee
Serge: in your code i believe that you did one read of your whole input file, and then you emitted that to the dc with textout. textout's use is actually (x,y,string). hence one line got printed (actually the whole file got printed but truncated) you will have to detect all the end of lines

Importing a 3rd Party windows DLL for use within th Python

2008-04-04 Thread lee . walczak
aybe there is already a tutorial available for performing this task? Is this task straight forward? Look forward to 'a' response! B.Regards, Lee Feel free to request more information if you feel it is necessary. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Importing a 3rd Party windows DLL for use within th Python

2008-04-05 Thread lee . walczak
Thankyou kindly for all the details you have provided. IT is nice to know that there is a community to help. I will let you know how I get on! Many Thanks, Lee -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [Python-Dev] Global Python Sprint Weekends: May 10th-11th and June 21st-22nd.

2008-04-16 Thread Thomas Lee
Anyone in Melbourne, Australia keen for the first sprint? I'm not sure if I'll be available, but if I can it'd be great to work with some others. Failing that, it's red bull and pizza in my lounge room :) I've been working on some neat code for an AST optimizer. If I'm free that weekend, I'll p

Re: Can't do a multiline assignment!

2008-04-17 Thread Andrew Lee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Yuck! No way!! If you *want* to make your code that hard to read, I'm >> sure you can find lots of ways to do so, even in Python, but don't >> expect Python to change to help you toward such a dubious goal. >> > > Well, my actual code doesn't look like that. Trust me,

Re: [Python-Dev] Global Python Sprint Weekends: May 10th-11th and June 21st-22nd.

2008-04-17 Thread Thomas Lee
Anybody in Melbourne keen for this? Not sure if I'll be able to make it myself, but I'd be interested to know if there's anybody in the area keen to do the sprint. Cheers, T Tarek Ziadé wrote: > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Michael Foord > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Trent Nelson wro

Re: Checking if a text file is blank

2008-04-19 Thread Andrew Lee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Greetings! > > I've just started learning python, so this is probably one of those > obvious questions newbies ask. > > Is there any way in python to check if a text file is blank? > > What I've tried to do so far is: > > f = file("friends.txt", "w") >

Re: Checking if a text file is blank

2008-04-20 Thread Andrew Lee
David wrote: >> import os >> print os.lstat("friends.txt")[6] >> > > I prefer os.lstat("friends.txt").st_size MUCH easier to remember Thanks! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: help needed with classes/inheritance

2008-04-23 Thread Andrew Lee
barbaros wrote: Hello everybody, I am building a code for surface meshes (triangulations for instance). I need to implement Body objects (bodies can be points, segments, triangles and so on), then a Mesh will be a collection of bodies, together with their neighbourhood relations. I also need Ori

Re: MatplotLib errors

2008-04-29 Thread Andrew Lee
Thomas Philips wrote: I have just started using MatPlotLib, and use it to generate graphs from Python simulations. It often happens that the graph is generated and a Visual C++ Runtime Library error then pops up: Runtime Error! Program C:\Pythin25\Pythonw.exe This application has requested the

Tkinter and TableList - Registering alternative Cell widgets

2008-08-14 Thread lee . walczak
may help me resolve this myself. I appreciate any useful feedback in helping me resolve this "hurdle". Please feel free to ask more questions if you require more information. Best Regards, Lee Walczak -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

configuring temporary entry widget of TableList Cell using Python

2008-08-18 Thread lee . walczak
ssible to guide help tell me the right approach here. Of course I can submit my code to help ( if this is useful ) but the problem I think clear to see from these summary details. Please take it easy on me, I am a HW engineer by trade and am slowly (but surely) gaining more knowledge & experien

Re: configuring temporary entry widget of TableList Cell using Python

2008-08-18 Thread lee . walczak
iscuss > > Thanks for the details fredrik, will try here. Lee -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Tkinter and TableList - Configure the Temporary Embedded Widgets

2008-08-19 Thread lee . walczak
I actually post a topic relating to my problem here: (http://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/ thread/a073d532c4481bfe?hl=en# ) But I thought it could be useful to place an example of my problem here aswell. This a small piece of testcode that creates a TableList. When the

ANN: TZMud-0.5, a Python MUD server

2008-08-25 Thread Lee Harr
TZMud is a Python MUD server. http://tzmud.googlecode.com/ A MUD is a text-based virtual environment accessed via telnet, or with a specialized MUD client. TZMud development is still in early stages, focusing on API and server stability. TZMud uses several high-quality Python libraries to facil

Re: def X(l=[]): weirdness. Python bug ?

2008-08-28 Thread Andrew Lee
Bart van Deenen wrote: Hi all. I've stumbled onto a python behavior that I don't understand at all. Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, Jul 31 2008, 17:28:52) # function def X(l=[]): l.append(1) print l # first call of X X() [1] #second call of X X() [1, 1] Where does the list parameter 'l'

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