On Feb 26, 12:57 am, Miles Bader <mi...@gnu.org> wrote: > There is ample room for people to discuss this evolution, but approaches > that start with "first, toss out the existing user interface" aren't gonna > fly.
Who said to toss out existing user interface, you? Are you saying that i start my suggestion with “throw out existing UI”? If so, please point out where. > Emacs isn't going to turn into a fancy notepad clone, regardless of what > "modern" users may (think they) want... In what way you imagine emacs is going to be a fancy Microsoft Notepad clone? I've wrote the following suggestions on emacs modernization in the past 3 years: • The Modernization of Emacs http://xahlee.org/emacs/modernization.html • Suggestions on Emacs's Scratch Buffer http://xahlee.org/emacs/modernization_scratch_buffer.html • Emacs's M-‹key› Notation vs Alt+‹key› Notation http://xahlee.org/emacs/modernization_meta_key.html • Emacs's Menu Usability Problem http://xahlee.org/emacs/modernization_menu.html • Emacs's Mode Line Modernization Suggestions http://xahlee.org/emacs/modernization_mode_line.html • Usability Problems With Emacs's Letter-Case Commands http://xahlee.org/emacs/modernization_upcase-word.html • Suggestions on Emacs's mark-word Command http://xahlee.org/emacs/modernization_mark-word.html • Suggestions on Emacs's Line-Cutting Commands http://xahlee.org/emacs/modernization_fill-paragraph.html • Emacs Should Adopt HTML To Replace Texinfo http://xahlee.org/emacs/modernization_html_vs_info.html • Emacs Should Support HTML Mail http://xahlee.org/emacs/modernization_html_mail.html • Emacs's HTML Mode Sucks http://xahlee.org/emacs/emacs_html_sucks.html which item, in which article, do you think that emacs is going to turn into Notepad clone? is the suggestion of using modern standard shortcut set of X C V for Cut, Copy, Paste, of which Linux uses, means it is turning emacs to a fancy Notepad clone? Is fixing emacs's confusing undo and no redo, that is periodically bitched by programer in blogs, considered making emacs into a Notepad clone? Is the suggestion for a statistics based ergonomic keybinding design that are more faster to execute, easier on the fingers, and easier to remember, mean it is turning emacs to a fancy notepad clone? is the suggestion of getting rid of *scratch* buffer, and introduce a command “New” with shortcut Ctrl+n, that creates new buffer anytime anywhere, which lets user create multiple scratch buffers defaulting to any mode and compatible for the rest of Linux's shortcuts, means it is a fancy Microsoft Notepad? is the suggestion of changing notation from C- and M- to Ctrl+ and Alt +, such that it reflects the lable on the keyboard, and Richard Stallman agrees may be a good idea, means it's Notepad? is the suggestion of supporting html mail, and interface to gmail out of the box, means it's becoming Microsoft Notepad? is it simply the fact that making things easier to use, means kissing Microsoft's ass? Is the open source Firefox, and Google's extremely advanced technologies and easy to use applications such as gmail, google map, google earth, google code, all becoming Microsoft Notepad clone? Xah ∑ http://xahlee.org/ ☄ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
