Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-25 Thread John Bokma
Chris Head <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [snip] >> ... and generally these "web based message boards" (i.e. forums I >> assume you mean) have none of the useful tools that Usenet offers and >> are much, much slower. > [

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-26 Thread John Bokma
Chris Head <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma wrote: >>>Additionally, a user interface operating inside an HTML >>>renderer can NEVER be as fast as a native-code user interface with >>>only the e-mail message itself passed through the renderer. >>

Re: Usenet, HTML (was Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry)

2005-08-26 Thread John Bokma
Ulrich Hobelmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma wrote: >> Ulrich Hobelmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> On the information side (in contrast to the discussion side) RSS is >>> replacing Usenet, >> >> LOL, how? I can

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-26 Thread John Bokma
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > "NNTP and its applications" have evolved to provide a set of much more > sophisticated means of accessing and giving information than any forum > I've ever seen. Example(s). And do users need those sophisticated things? -- John Small Perl scripts: ht

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-26 Thread John Bokma
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In comp.lang.perl.misc John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [ web based boards ] >> And which useful tools do you require? >> > A choice of news readers to suit different people with different > interfaces, - different browsers, diffe

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-26 Thread John Bokma
Ulrich Hobelmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I hate about most are the sites that don't even *mention* that > they want cookies. Often I have to wonder, reinput input fields etc. > and then after ten minutes trying *bang*, the idea, maybe to allow > cookies for that site. So your browser d

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-26 Thread John Bokma
Denis Kasak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike Schilling wrote: >> >> Threaded mail-readers too, screen-based editors , spell-checkers, all >> useless frills. > > Interestingly enough, I have explained my opinion in the part of the > post you have trimmed. On the other hand, things you mentione

Re: minimalist regular expression

2005-08-26 Thread John Bokma
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the shortest description in regex way Which is? Oh, and please quote the previous message and author. Reply under the part you are replying too, etc. Even with Google this is possible. -- John Small Perl scripts: http://johnbo

Re: Usenet, HTML (was Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry)

2005-08-26 Thread John Bokma
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In comp.lang.perl.misc John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > I'm talking about using the technology for communication, instead of >> > reinventing the wheel with crappy web forums. >> >> What is exactly c

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-26 Thread John Bokma
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In comp.lang.perl.misc John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> > "NNTP and its applications" have evolved to provide a set of much more >> > sophisticated means of accessing and givi

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-26 Thread John Bokma
Ulrich Hobelmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> In comp.lang.perl.misc John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> [ web based boards ] >> >>>> And which useful tools do you r

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-26 Thread John Bokma
Ulrich Hobelmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma wrote: >> Ulrich Hobelmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> What I hate about most are the sites that don't even *mention* that >>> they want cookies. Often I have to wonder, reinpu

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-26 Thread John Bokma
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In comp.lang.perl.misc John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > They >> > have no downsides I can possibly think of >> >> Some people never use them, and hence they use memory and add risks. >> > S

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-26 Thread John Bokma
Dragan Cvetkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> A forum provides a >>> single, usually rather limited, interface for the user with no way >>> for the user to change it radically. >> >> Does the

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-26 Thread John Bokma
Denis Kasak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma wrote: >> >> so use Lynx :-) >> >> One forum I visit is about scorpions. And really, it talks a bit >> easier about scorpions if you have an image to look at :-D. >> >> In short: Usenet = Use

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-26 Thread John Bokma
Rich Teer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 26 Aug 2005, John Bokma wrote: > >> people from www to Usenet or vice versa is beyond me. If 80% of the >> current Usenet users stop posting, Usenet is not going to die :-D > > Heh. Quite the opposite, I reckon: it

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-26 Thread John Bokma
Denis Kasak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma wrote: >> >> You can't be sure: errors in the handling of threads can cause a >> buffer overflow, same for spelling checking :-D > > Yes, they can, provided they are not properly coded. However, those &

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-26 Thread John Bokma
Denis Kasak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma wrote: >> Ulrich Hobelmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> John Bokma wrote: >>>> http://www.phpbb.com/mods/ >>> >>> Great. How can I, the user, choose, how to use a mod on

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-26 Thread John Bokma
"T Beck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > John Bokma wrote: >> "T Beck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > If we argue that people are evolving the way e-mail is handled, and >> > adding entire new feature sets to something whic

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-26 Thread John Bokma
Ulrich Hobelmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma wrote: >>> I have cookies off, with explicit exception for sites where >>> I want cookies. When the crappy website doesn't bother to MENTION >>> that it wants cookies, i.e. give me an error page, h

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-26 Thread John Bokma
Chris Head <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma wrote: >> Chris Head <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [HTML] >> It can be made much faster. There will always be a delay since >> messages have to be downloaded, but with a fast connection and a good >> design

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-26 Thread John Bokma
Rich Teer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 26 Aug 2005, John Bokma wrote: > >> And workplaces. Some people have more then one computer in the house. My >> partner can check her email when I had her over the computer. When I > > I know this is entirely inappropr

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-26 Thread John Bokma
Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Paul Rubin <http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>>> > Another advantage is that evewry internet-enab

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-26 Thread John Bokma
Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> It's time consuming because there is (yet) no need for it. When I >> started to use Usenet there where only a handful of clients (IIRC), nn >> and another one (rn?) are the onl

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-29 Thread John Bokma
Alan Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why on earth was this cross-posted to comp.lang.c.? Followups set. Your reply is even more meaningless and more noise compared to the crosspost. Why? You didn't add anything, you quote an entire message and you just tweaked the follow up to header in a b

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-29 Thread John Bokma
Alan Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 16:47:10 GMT, Chris Head <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >>This point I agree with. There are some situations - 'net cafes included >>- - where thick e-mail clients don't work. Even so, see below. > > I use Portable Thunderbird, on a US

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-29 Thread John Bokma
Alan Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 29 Aug 2005 18:21:12 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Alan Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Why on earth was this cross-posted to comp.lang.c.? Followups set. >> >>Your repl

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-29 Thread John Bokma
Alan Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 29 Aug 2005 21:12:13 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Now, go away. And please, stay away. >> >>Like I already said, it doesn't work that way. > > Goodbye, John. Filters set. Saidly y

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-30 Thread John Bokma
Mark McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Its a complete mystery. Just as is the reason why you are x-posting >complete garbage to comp.lang.c... A similar mystery as in why Mark clueless n00b II McIntyre thinks it's a good idea to cross post to all other groups except comp.lang.c? Again: stop

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-30 Thread John Bokma
Alan Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another obnoxious cross-poster identified. Thank you. You mean Alan clueless n00b Balmer? At least you got the follow up doesn't work the first time. Try to get the other message I wrote as well: ignore this thread, it will stop in 1-2 days out of itself

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-30 Thread John Bokma
Mark McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 30 Aug 2005 18:06:48 GMT, in comp.lang.c , John Bokma > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Mark McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>Its a complete mystery. Just as is the reason why you are x-post

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-31 Thread John Bokma
Chris Head <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma wrote: >> And workplaces. Some people have more then one computer in the house. >> My partner can check her email when I had her over the computer. When >> I want to check my email when she is using it, I have to chan

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-31 Thread John Bokma
"T Beck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma wrote: [ Death of Usenet has been predicted often ] > I suppose I was (as many people on the internet have a bad habit of > doing) being more caustic than was strictly necessary. I don't really > forsee the dea

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-09-02 Thread John Bokma
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Of course what the original poster did not consider is why > the standard line length was laid down... the VT100 terminals > (and related ones) had a line length which was 80 characters > (ok, with some options to switch to 132 characters if I > remember correctly)... an

Re: [perl-python] text pattern matching, and expressiveness

2005-02-07 Thread John Bokma
Xah Lee wrote: > Perl is a language of syntactical variegations. Python on the other > hand, does not even allow changes in code's indentation, but its > efficiency and power in expression, with respect to semantics (i.e. > algorithms), showcases Perl's poverty in specification. Clarify :-D. --

Re: [perl-python] a program to delete duplicate files

2005-03-10 Thread John Bokma
David Eppstein wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Xah Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> a absolute requirement in this problem is to minimize the number of >> comparison made between files. This is a part of the spec. > > You need do no comparisons between files. Just use a suffici

Re: Python docs [was: function with a state]

2005-03-25 Thread John Bokma
Xah Lee wrote: > The Python doc is relatively lousy, from content organization to the > tech writing quality. So write your own or fork the current one. I doubt if that's a problem. Did you read Dive into Python? -- John Small Perl scripts: http://johnbokma.com/perl/

Re: Python docs [was: function with a state]

2005-03-25 Thread John Bokma
Martin Ambuhl wrote: > Apologies to these various newsgroups, but I have no idea which one Xah > Lee actually reads or posts from. F'ups set. Probably none, since they are all crowded with crazy linux zealots :-D. -- John Small Perl scripts: http://johnbokma.com/perl/

Re: Why Python does *SLICING* the way it does??

2005-04-20 Thread John Bokma
Raymond Hettinger wrote: > to seeing code like: for(i=0 ; i BASIC programmer may be used to FOR I = 1 to N: a[I]=f(I); NEXT. Afaik, at least BBC BASIC uses zero based arrays :-) Maybe ZX Spectrum Basic too (too long ago to remember). -- John MexIT: http://jo

Re: goto statement

2005-04-20 Thread John Bokma
Mage wrote: > praba kar wrote: > >>Dear All, >> >> In Python what is equivalent to goto statement >> >> >> > You shouldn't use goto in high-level languages. Nonsense -- John MexIT: http://johnbokma.com/mexit/ personal page: htt

Re: goto statement

2005-04-21 Thread John Bokma
Do Re Mi chel La Si Do wrote: > +1 I am modded up :-D -- John MexIT: http://johnbokma.com/mexit/ personal page: http://johnbokma.com/ Experienced programmer available: http://castleamber.com/ Happy Customers:

Re: goto statement

2005-04-21 Thread John Bokma
Reinhold Birkenfeld wrote: > John Bokma wrote: >> Mage wrote: >> >>> praba kar wrote: >>> >>>>Dear All, >>>> >>>> In Python what is equivalent to goto statement >>>> >>>> >>>> >>

Re: Python or PHP?

2005-04-25 Thread John Bokma
Mike Meyer wrote: > John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Mike Meyer wrote: [ snip ] >> do you really think that for / foreach and things like if / unless >> bloat a language processor? I think you take your "pure programming >> lanuage" way to f

Re: Python or PHP?

2005-04-25 Thread John Bokma
Ville Vainio wrote: >>>>>> "John" == John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > John> Who told you Perl can't do exceptions? > > Back when I learned (heh, I never 'really' learned, but knew enough to > write programs in it)

Re: Python or PHP?

2005-04-25 Thread John Bokma
Alan Little wrote: > Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Your statement then becomes >> >>select * from foo where bar=1; drop table foo >> >>which is clearly not such a good idea. > > I'm sure Steve is very well aware of this and was just providing a > simple and obvious example, neverth

Re: Python or PHP?

2005-04-25 Thread John Bokma
Steve Holden wrote: > John Bokma wrote: >> Alan Little wrote: >> >> >>>Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Your statement then becomes >>>> >>>>select * from foo where bar=1; drop table fo

Re: Python or PHP?

2005-04-25 Thread John Bokma
Mike Meyer wrote: > John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [ unless ] > Yeah - unless is a bad idea. LOL, because you don't like it? You already showed code like: if condition then nothing else something unless IMNSHO improves readability. >> I doubt that feat

Re: Python or PHP?

2005-04-25 Thread John Bokma
Jeremy Bowers wrote: > On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 23:26:56 +0000, John Bokma wrote: > >> Mike Meyer wrote: >> >>> John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Nobody ever changed their mind as a result of a 20-thread endless > reply-fest. As usual, the posters

Re: Python or PHP?

2005-04-25 Thread John Bokma
Steve Holden wrote: > Yup. Even aol in this group... -- John MexIT: http://johnbokma.com/mexit/ personal page: http://johnbokma.com/ Experienced programmer available: http://castleamber.com/ Happy Customers:

Re: Python or PHP?

2005-04-25 Thread John Bokma
Mike Meyer wrote: > John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> You already showed code like: > > Actually, I never showed you this code. hence *like*, and yes you did, in a footnote. > In this case, the good rewrite invokes the well-known logical operator > "

Re: Python or PHP?

2005-04-25 Thread John Bokma
Mike Meyer wrote: > Yeah, but I'm having fun. What's the point of usenet, if it's not fun? :-D. I am always amazed how people now the opinion of "the bystanders", I mean, are they having secret polls I am not aware of? -- John MexIT: http://johnbokma.com/mexit/

Re: Python or PHP?

2005-04-26 Thread John Bokma
Leif K-Brooks wrote: > Mage wrote: >> However one of the worst cases is the sql injection attack. And sql >> injections must be handled neither by php nor by python but by the >> programmer. > > But Python's DB-API (the standard way to connect to an SQL database > from Python) makes escaping SQL

Re: Python or PHP?

2005-04-26 Thread John Bokma
Mike Meyer wrote: > "Simon John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I still love Perl, it's a bit of an art form, as "there's more than >> one way to do it", whereas Python usually only allows one way to do >> it, which may or may not be a better mantra > > The Python mantra leads to 1) less p

Re: Python or PHP?

2005-04-26 Thread John Bokma
Leif K-Brooks wrote: > John Bokma wrote: >> Not. Perl and Java use similar methods where one can specify place >> holders, and pass on the data unescaped. But still injection is >> possible. > > How? my $sort = $cgi->param( "sort" ); my $query = "

Re: Python or PHP?

2005-04-26 Thread John Bokma
Leif K-Brooks wrote: > John Bokma wrote: >> my $sort = $cgi->param( "sort" ); >> my $query = "SELECT * FROM table WHERE id=? ORDER BY $sort"; > > And the equivalent Python code: > > cursor.execute('SELECT * FROM table WHERE id=%%s ORDER BY

Re: Python or PHP?

2005-04-26 Thread John Bokma
Peter Ammon wrote: > Leif K-Brooks wrote: >> John Bokma wrote: >> >>> my $sort = $cgi->param( "sort" ); >>> my $query = "SELECT * FROM table WHERE id=? ORDER BY $sort"; >> >> >> And the equivalent Python code: >&

Re: Python or PHP?

2005-04-26 Thread John Bokma
Leif K-Brooks wrote: > Peter Ammon wrote: >> I'm bewildered why you haven't mentioned magic quotes. A one line >> change to the configuration file can render your PHP site almost >> entirely immune to SQL injection attacks. > > PHP's magic quotes is one of the most poorly-designed features I c

Re: Python or PHP?

2005-04-26 Thread John Bokma
Mike Meyer wrote: > John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Mike Meyer wrote: >> >>> "Simon John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> >>>> I still love Perl, it's a bit of an art form, as "there's more than &g

Re: Python or PHP?

2005-04-26 Thread John Bokma
Mike Meyer wrote: > John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Mike Meyer wrote: >> >>> John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> >>>> Mike Meyer wrote: >>>> >>>>> "Simon John" <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Python or PHP?

2005-04-26 Thread John Bokma
Mike Meyer wrote: > John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Mike Meyer wrote: >>> Depends on the problem. If it's one of the things for which Python >>> has an obvious solution (sort a list; split a string on whitespace; >>> pull select list

Re: Getting into Python, comming from Perl.

2005-04-26 Thread John Bokma
Miguel Manso wrote: > What I would like to know is if anyone had these problems and if you can > share that experience with me. I'm trying to minimize my "frustration" :) Read the Python tutorial, front to back, 2 times. Next, read Dive into Python (free e-book) front to back, 2 times, make not

Re: Python or PHP?

2005-04-26 Thread John Bokma
Ville Vainio wrote: >>>>>> "John" == John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> Nah, they aren't slow. They just have to worry about more > >> things than the Python developers. > > John> Do you have ref

Re: Python or PHP?

2005-04-26 Thread John Bokma
Mike Meyer wrote: > John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Mike Meyer wrote: >>> John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>>> Mike Meyer wrote: >>>>> Depends on the problem. If it's one of the things for which Pyt

Re: Python or PHP?

2005-04-27 Thread John Bokma
Mike Meyer wrote: > John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Mike Meyer wrote: >> >>> John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>>> You already showed code like: >>> Actually, I never showed you this code. >> hence *like*,

Re: question about speed of sequential string replacement vs regex or

2011-09-28 Thread John Bokma
e }ge; However, a function can be easier on the eye: s{...}{ some_good_name( ... ) }ge; -- John Bokma j3b Blog: http://johnbokma.com/Perl Consultancy: http://castleamber.com/ Perl for books:http://johnbokma.com/perl

Re: PHP = Perl Improved

2005-12-14 Thread John Bokma
Martin Christensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perl, too, since he doesn't seem to understand it when people tell him > to bugger off in plain English. "It" buggers off if everybody ignores it. "It" posts because it knows that its actions pisses off so many people. -- John S

Re: Cool Python Ebooks Site

2006-07-16 Thread John Bokma
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Here is a cool site were you can preview python ebooks. It would be more cool if your spamvertized sites had the links to the actual sites that host the free books, like Dive into Python and had no links at all to clear copyright infringements. Instead of contributing

Re: Cool Python Ebooks Site

2006-07-16 Thread John Bokma
Dennis Lee Bieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 17 Jul 2006 01:39:27 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > declaimed the following in comp.lang.python: > >> But everything to make a little AdSense money no? How would you like >> it if everybody who read your m

Re: Cool Python Ebooks Site

2006-07-17 Thread John Bokma
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If you think a simple script is going to fool adsense then you trully > need to read some books. If it happens a lot, Google will consider it an attempt of click fraud IMO. Doesn't matter if it's really high tech. I have heard too many stories from people who got kick

Re: need help getting xml feed from a url

2006-07-18 Thread John Bokma
"Shan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If i have a list of urls how can I extract or pull their respective xml > feeds? What have you tried so far? -- John MexIT: http://johnbokma.com/mexit/ personal page: http://johnbokma.com/

Re: OT: p-gal website

2006-08-14 Thread John Bokma
"ajaksu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't :) > Even Firefox developers will tell you to avoid this. Develop for > standards compliant browsers (including Firefox) by testing against > the standards. Neither your HTML or CSS pass validation, both due to > minor, easy-to-fix issues. If you actual

Re: OT: p-gal website

2006-08-14 Thread John Bokma
Gabriel Genellina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At Monday 14/8/2006 18:45, John Bokma wrote: > >> > Even Firefox developers will tell you to avoid this. Develop for >> > standards compliant browsers (including Firefox) by testing against >> > the s

Re: OT: p-gal website

2006-08-17 Thread John Bokma
"ajaksu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And to answer your question, I recommend to follow standards because > that's how I call the mixed bag of Recommendations, some of which are > also Specifications, allowing for the inclusion of both significant > Standards and standards. I guess I must've been

Reported (was Re: A Editor Feature for Extending)

2006-08-20 Thread John Bokma
"Xah Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Let's see how fast we can drop you from another hosting provider :-D. -- JohnExperienced Perl programmer: http://castleamber.com/ Perl help, tutorials, and examples: http://johnbokma.com/perl/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/lis

Re: Getting a lot of SPAM from this list

2006-10-23 Thread John Bokma
Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Spammers don't scan lists as much anymore; There is still a lot of harvesting from websites going on as far as I can tell. And Usenet, since "this list", or at least your post, also pops up on Usenet. > machines > infected with malware to extra

Re: logo design - BZZZT! OT!

2006-10-29 Thread John Bokma
"Paul McGuire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does the "power-that-be of lispers" spend much time on c.l.py? Even > though Python is mentioned in passing in this post, it really doesn't > need to be cross-posted here. Xah Lee is a well-known spammer, almost all his messages contain at least one

Re: Will GPL Java eat into Python marketshare?

2006-11-15 Thread John Bokma
Harry George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Short answer: People use Python instead of Java because people (at > least intelligent people) tend to avoid pain. Intelligent people don't suffer from fanboy sentiments. They just pick a language that works best for them. -- John

Re: Will GPL Java eat into Python marketshare?

2006-11-15 Thread John Bokma
Bruno Desthuilliers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma a écrit : >> Harry George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>>Short answer: People use Python instead of Java because people (at >>>least intelligent people) tend to avoid pain. >

Re: Will GPL Java eat into Python marketshare?

2006-11-15 Thread John Bokma
"Matimus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > John Bokma wrote: >> Intelligent people don't suffer from fanboy sentiments. They just >> pick a language that works best for them. > > Adding to that, they pick the language that works best for them and >

Re: Will GPL Java eat into Python marketshare?

2006-11-15 Thread John Bokma
Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seriously though, there is no contradiction between the idea of > "people use Python instead of Java because they prefer to avoid pain" It sounds like a typical fanboy statement to me, since it implies that Java is always a pain, and Python is perfect

Re: Python v PHP: fair comparison?

2006-11-16 Thread John Bokma
"Luis M. González" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Fredrik Lundh ha escrito: > >> Luis M. González wrote: >> >> > But as a web development language, it's olnly when people started >> > to look for the "rails killer" and many python alternatives started >> > to come up (although Django has been in

Re: Python v PHP: fair comparison?

2006-11-16 Thread John Bokma
James Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2006-11-16 12:46:05 -0500, "walterbyrd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> >> James Cunningham wrote: >> >>> Nope. It disproves your assertion that "certainly all of the lower >>> priced hosters" use Apache 1.3. >> >> Okay, where can I get Python an

Re: Python v PHP: fair comparison?

2006-11-16 Thread John Bokma
Tim Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Demel, Jeff wrote: >> Walterbyrd wrote: >>> Okay, where can I get Python and Apache 2.X for $10 a year? >> >> Webfaction.com > > Um, I think you're off by an order of magnitude. Walterbyrd > asked about $10/*year* and webfaction.com charges $7.50/*month*.

RE: Python v PHP: fair comparison?

2006-11-16 Thread John Bokma
"Demel, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What kind of hosting does one get for $10 a *year*? And I'm not just > talking Python here, but any hosting at all. I pay $12/year (see other posts, I am not going to name them again) for hosting a phpBB board and wiki, with 100+ members and currently

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-29 Thread John Bokma
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>"There is so much noise we can't hear each other, but I will defend >>to the death a chance to get heard for whatever you might have to say >>that's intelligent (while not necessarily from your own mouth)". > > You write a much cooler quote! > >>Besides, it is not clea

Re: Very good Python Book. Free download : Beginning Python: From Novice to Professional

2006-05-29 Thread John Bokma
"Kriv" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi friends, > > I found this eBook on the web. This book is very very good. > I refer to them. I doubt Apress will be happy with this. Don't post garbage like this, since instead of helping, you're doing the opposite. People interested in copyright infringem

Re: Very good Python Book. Free download : Beginning Python: From Novice to Professional

2006-05-29 Thread John Bokma
"Luis M. González" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I didn't know it wasn't a free ebook. I realized it once I downloaded > it. > But it's such a good book that I decided to buy a hard copy. > This way I will support its author, while getting a very good book on > Python. :-D Sounds much better. --

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-30 Thread John Bokma
Max M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Your first question should be: Is it alright that Xah harasses 5 >> newsgroups? Or maybe work on your spelling, harass is with one r, but >> maybe you didn't read th

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-30 Thread John Bokma
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I don't get the MySpace OMG reference, but rest assured John, you are > still my favorite > newsnet nazi. I know you have been feeling pretty insecure about this > Xah fellow, but Funny that someone diagnosing insecurity needs to refer to Nazi's in an attempt to promot

Re: how to print newline in xml?

2006-05-30 Thread John Bokma
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > which is already not very readable - but it becomes even worse along > with increasing number of comments How about: armar3 : : XML editor + xpath makes this way more easier to use by humans compared to normal comments. Also, if yo

RE: interactive programme (voice)

2006-05-30 Thread John Bokma
"Bell, Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.cs.unc.edu/~parente/tech/tr02.shtml Thanks! -- John MexIT: http://johnbokma.com/mexit/ personal page: http://johnbokma.com/ Experienced programmer available: http://c

Re: TIming

2006-05-30 Thread John Bokma
WIdgeteye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW in the time it took me NOT to get an answer for my question in > this so called Python NG, I figured it out for myself. Maybe you want to post the solution in order to help others with similar problems in the future? -- John

Re: problem with google api / xml

2006-05-31 Thread John Bokma
"robin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hello, > > i installed SOAPpy 0.12.0 and pyXML 0.8.4 in order to try out the > google-search example in diveintopython > http://diveintopython.org/soap_web_services/index.html > however, i'v been trying and trying and won't get it to work :-( > whenever i run

Re: how to print newline in xml?

2006-06-01 Thread John Bokma
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you for a possible solution, but it's not what I'm looking for, > cause something like would look quite similar... for > big elements like robot it would be ok to use comment as a child of > element - but imagine I'd like to comment transform

Re: how to print newline in xml?

2006-06-01 Thread John Bokma
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you! I think description as an attribute is readable. But now I'm > thinking about the order of attributes cause I noticed that for > instance X="0" Y="0" Z="0" set in this order by my script is printed > like X="0" Z="0" Y="0" therefore it co

Re: CENSORSHIP - Django Project (Schema Evolution Support)

2006-06-07 Thread John Bokma
Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Diez B. Roggisch wrote: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilias_Lazaridis > > What has this "wikipedia" entry to do with the topic here? > > What is the credibility and value of the provided "wikipedia" entry? And what's yours? And which source do you

Re: Importing again and again

2006-06-08 Thread John Bokma
"abcd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I have code which imports a module over and over again...say each > time a function is called, does that cause Python to actually re-import > it...or will it skip it once the module has been imported?? > > for example: > > def foo(): > import bar >

Re: Importing again and again

2006-06-08 Thread John Bokma
"Terry Reedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> def foo(): >>> import bar >>> bar.printStuff() >> I am new to Python so this might b

Re: python guru in the Bay Area

2006-07-01 Thread John Bokma
"bruce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ps. yeah.. i know i could eventually figure most of this by > searching/experimenting/etc... using google.. but i'd rather move as > fast as possible. Then I recommend a book instead of trial and error programming. Dive into Python can be downloaded for free,

Re: all ip addresses of machines in the local network

2006-08-23 Thread John Bokma
"damacy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi, there. i have a problem writing a program which can obtain ip > addresses of machines running in the same local network. > > say, there are 4 machines present in the network; [a], [b], [c] and [d] > and if i run my program on [a], it should be able to fin

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