Re: ImSim: Image Similarity

either its title Title: TinEye, author: http://ideeinc.com/ Search: http://www.tineye.com/ Example: http://www.tineye.com/search/2b3305135fa4c59311ed58b41da5d07f213e4d47/ Notice how it finds modified images. -- John Bokma j3b Blo

Re: ImSim: Image Similarity

n00m writes: > On Mar 6, 10:17 pm, n00m wrote: >> On Mar 6, 8:55 pm, John Bokma wrote: >> >> >> >> > n00m writes: >> > >http://www.nga.gov/search/index.shtm >> > >http://deyoung.famsf.org/search-collections >> > &g

Re: ImSim: Image Similarity

#x27;s Usenet, something I've been using for, oh, just over 20 years now, and even then it was not new. You know, before the web thing you're talking about... -- John Bokma j3b Blog: http://johnbokma.com/Facebook: http

Re: Problem with re module

explain to me why this > match is not behaving as I intend it to, especially the ([^$])? [^$] matches: not a $ character You might want [^\n] -- John Bokma j3b Blog: http://johnbokma.com/Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/j

Re: call php function from python

tall, use the post method with the right data and the right URL. -- John Bokma j3b Blog: http://johnbokma.com/Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/j.j.j.bokma Freelance Perl & Python Development: http://castleamber.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Learn Python the Hardway exercise 11 question 4

Chris Angelico writes: > On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 8:57 AM, geremy condra wrote: >> I know it's tongue-in-cheek, but please, please, please don't do this. > > It would be more secure to base64 it and then rot13 the output. Rot-13 twice, to make it even more se

Re: Guido rethinking removal of cmp from sort method

gt; 3. But if you had any idea what you were talking about, you already knew that. -- John Bokma j3b Blog: http://johnbokma.com/Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/j.j.j.bokma Freelance Perl & Python Development: http:/

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

.org/software/emacs/> or Vim > http://www.vim.org/> are excellent general-purpose editors that > have strong features for programmers of any popular language or text > format. I second Emacs or vim. I currently use Emacs the most, bu

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

st check it out. - Emmett What I love so much about Emacs is that each feature I've wanted so far is either part of it, or can be installed. Sometimes I have to change how I think about the feature a bit, but so far, so good. -- John Bokma

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

im or Emacs is that using the mouse delays things. -- John Bokma j3b Blog: http://johnbokma.com/Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/j.j.j.bokma Freelance Perl & Python Development: http://castleamber.com/ -- http://mail.pyt

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

ght. [1] which is part of the Emacs version I am using, I just learned. -- John Bokma j3b Blog: http://johnbokma.com/Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/j.j.j.bokma Freelance Perl & Python Development: http://castleamber.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

> It takes forever to set it up. If you mean to make work optimally for your way of editing, probably true. You can keep fine tuning, adding/testing stuff, etc. -- John Bokma j3b Blog: http://johnbokma.com/Facebook: htt

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

times over years, and never worked. What did the trick for me was just switching to Emacs, and read the GNU Emacs Manual thoroughly and making notes. And the next day try what I read the day before. -- John Bokma j3b Blog:

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

rusi writes: > On Apr 17, 3:19 am, John Bokma wrote: >> rusi writes: >> > On Apr 16, 9:13 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >> Based on the comments here, it seems that emacs would have to be the >> >> editor-in-chief for programmers. I currently us

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

r is going to switch to Emacs to begin with :-D. -- John Bokma j3b Blog: http://johnbokma.com/Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/j.j.j.bokma Freelance Perl & Python Development: http://castleamber.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

Bastian Ballmann writes: > Am Sat, 16 Apr 2011 22:22:19 -0500 > schrieb John Bokma : > >> Yeah, if you bring it down to open a file, save a file, and move the >> cursor around, sure you can do that in a day or two (two since you >> have to get used to the "wei

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

ng at all those shiny GUI elements when editing? I've turned off the icon bar in Emacs (pointless) and rarely use the menu if ever. -- John Bokma j3b Blog: http://johnbokma.com/Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/j.j.j.bokma

Re: Teaching Python

#x27;s an online book, free downloadable for both 2.x and 3.x -- John Bokma j3b Blog: http://johnbokma.com/Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/j.j.j.bokma Freelance Perl & Python Development: http://castleamber.com/

Re: vertical ordering of functions

escribed by Guido van Rossum in > http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=4829>. Thanks Ben, very useful link. -- John Bokma j3b Blog: http://johnbokma.com/Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/j.j.j.bokma Freelance Perl

Re: Hello Friends

Since you just repeated the spamvertized URL... -- John Bokma j3b Blog: http://johnbokma.com/Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/j.j.j.bokma Freelance Perl & Python Development: http://castleamber.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: obviscating python code for distribution

o understand that no server is ever secure and hence one must always be prepared that a breach can happen. -- John Bokma j3b Blog: http://johnbokma.com/Perl Consultancy: http://castleamber.com/ Perl for books:http://johnb

Re: Abandoning Python

etc.). > * An even larger user base, contributing more and better free and >commercial software. > > I'm prepared to compromise on the last one. Obviously, it should do all > that while preserving all the nice features

Re: Why did Quora choose Python for its development?

er that dict(). my %hash = @list_of_key_value_pairs; -- John Bokma j3b Blog: http://johnbokma.com/Perl Consultancy: http://castleamber.com/ Perl for books:http://johnbokma.com/perl/help-in-exchange-for-books.h

Re: Why did Quora choose Python for its development?

e an editor that can with a single command comment out a selection (and revert this), like Emacs. -- John Bokma j3b Blog: http://johnbokma.com/Perl Consultancy: http://castleamber.com/ Perl for books:http://johnbokma.co

Re: Why did Quora choose Python for its development?

"Octavian Rasnita" writes: > From: "Daniel Kluev" > a = [1,2] > dict([a]) > > Yes, but > > d = dict([a]) > > is not so nice as > > $d = @a; That will give you the number of elements in @a. What y

Re: Why did Quora choose Python for its development?

't actually care that much about these > things. Wise words. And I agree. To me Python vs. Perl has nothing to do with being a fanboy (unlike many other posters here). I like both languages, I have invested a lot of time in learning Python and I am really not dense. Yet, even though I can

Re: Why did Quora choose Python for its development?

"D'Arcy J.M. Cain" writes: > On Tue, 24 May 2011 00:17:55 -0500 > John Bokma wrote: >> > $d = @a; >> >> That will give you the number of elements in @a. What you (probably) >> mean is %hash = @array; > > If I was even considering using Pe

Re: Why did Quora choose Python for its development?

Chris Angelico writes: > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:50 AM, John Bokma wrote: >> Wise words. And I agree. To me Python vs. Perl has nothing to do with >> being a fanboy (unlike many other posters here). I like both languages, >> I have invested a lot of time in learning Pytho

Re: Why did Quora choose Python for its development?

"D'Arcy J.M. Cain" writes: > On Tue, 24 May 2011 11:52:39 -0500 > John Bokma wrote: >> >> > $d = @a; >> >> >> >> That will give you the number of elements in @a. What you (probably) >> >> mean is %hash = @array; >>

Re: Why did Quora choose Python for its development?

Chris Angelico writes: > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:56 AM, John Bokma wrote: >> Chris Angelico writes: >>> To me, a language is a tool. >> >> To me, and to a lot of Perl programmers it's not different. >> >>> The more tools you have competence w

Re: Why did Quora choose Python for its development?

n use $OUTPUT_AUTOFLUSH (use English;), or use IO::Handle and use the autoflush method [2]. [2] In Perl 5.14 IO::File is now loaded on demand: http://search.cpan.org/dist/perl/pod/perldelta.pod#Filehandle_method_calls_load_IO::File_on_demand -- John Bokma

Re: Why did Quora choose Python for its development?

Chris Angelico writes: > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:16 AM, John Bokma wrote: >> Chris Angelico writes: >> >>> Yes, I believe that was Perl. And an amusing quote. But most of the >>> point of it comes from the fact that Perl uses punctuation for most of &g

Re: Why did Quora choose Python for its development?

Dennis Lee Bieber writes: > Python books than after six months of trying to understand PERL... And Perl is the language, and perl is what runs Perl. -- John Bokma j3b Blog: http://johnbokma.com/Perl Consultancy: h

Re: Why did Quora choose Python for its development?

with. To people used to the latin alphabet languages using a different script are unreadable. So readability has a lot to do with what one is used to. Like I already stated before: if Python is really so much better than Python readability wise, why do I have such a hard time dropping Perl and movin

Re: Why did Quora choose Python for its development?

Ethan Furman writes: > Terry Reedy wrote: >> On 5/25/2011 8:01 AM, John Bokma wrote: >> >>> to. Like I already stated before: if Python is really so much better >>> than Python readability wise, why do I have such a hard time dropping >>> Perl and moving

Re: Why did Quora choose Python for its development?

Steven D'Aprano writes: > On Wed, 25 May 2011 07:01:07 -0500, John Bokma wrote: > >> if Python is really so much better than Python [Perl] >> readability wise, why do I have such a hard time dropping >> Perl and moving on? > > My guess is that you have an adv

Re: Why did Quora choose Python for its development?

Please desist. You should have spoken up sooner, especially as the spokes person of "this" community. But every bully has is fan club. -- John Bokma j3b Blog: http://johnbokma.com/Perl Consultancy: http://cas

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:57:13 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gordon > Burditt) wrote or quoted : > >> >>HTML enables a heck of a lot of problems: "web bugs" in email, >>links to fake sites that appear as real ones in what shows up >>on the screen, Javascript vi

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

Rich Teer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 8 Oct 2005, Roedy Green wrote: > >> Some people use email PRIMARILY for sharing photos. > > WHat the hell has that got to do with HTML email? The photo doesn't have to be included (as in attached)? with the email? > Sending photos > is an example

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

Rich Teer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 9 Oct 2005, Lasse Vågsæther Karlsen wrote: > >> But trying to keep your email world into a pure text-based >> no-formatting-whatsoever world, that's a fantasy bubble that is bound to >> burst, sooner rather than later. > > Not here. I've configured

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8 Oct 2005 23:39:27 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or > quoted : > >>Yeah, yeah, and 640K is enough for everybody. Same song, different tune. > > For how long. Surely attachments are a stop gap. Can you ima

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So let's say I decide to send an email to Donald Knuth. :-) -- John Small Perl scripts: http://johnbokma.com/perl/ Perl programmer available: http://castleamber.com/ I ploink g

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

Paul Rubin wrote: > Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> So let's say I decide to send an email to Donald Knuth. > > Good luck. Prof. Knuth stopped reading email years before there was a > big spam problem. Not entirely true: "My secretary prints out all message

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12 Oct 2005 01:43:32 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > or quoted : > >>> So let's say I decide to send an email to Donald Knuth. >> >>:-) > > I did write him, snail mail, and he r

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

Keith Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are several newsgroups that deal with e-mail abuse. This > discussion isn't being posted to any of them. Please stop. This just adds to the noise, and isn't going to work. Just kill the entire thread. -- John Small Perl scri

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"Jeroen Wenting" wrote: > no, they got their by clever marketing and generally having a product > that was easier to use for the average user than anything the > competition made and a lot more powerful than other products created > for their main target market. I agree with the first part of yo

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The only thing positive about M$ entering the market, probably > due to their ineffective programming style they pushed Intel into > producing pretty fast while cheapo CPUs. Amazing, I thought Xah Lee was the only one able to fit so much BS in one sen

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"Martin P. Hellwig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jeroen Wenting wrote: > >> >> Without Microsoft 90% of us would never have seen a computer more >> powerful than a ZX-81 and 90% of the rest of us would never have used >> only dumb mainframe terminals. > > At the time you "PC" guys where hacking

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In comp.os.linux.misc John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> The only thing positive about M$ entering the market, probably >>> due to their inef

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > PLONK So you think you can make points by PLONKing people? Grow up and get a life. You can learn from listening. You'll learn nothing from ploinking. Oh, and I am not amazed, since people who claim utter BS is right, plonk people who don't agree.

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"Martin P. Hellwig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma wrote: > >> You mean like the lamp that keeps burning forever, like Philips has? > > No more like all the hydrogen technologies that shell has in their > possession for the last decades and only

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

Tim Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Part of their behavior really escape me. The whole thing about > browser wars confuses me. Web browsers represent a zero billion > dollar a year market. Why would you risk anything to own it? Opera seems to be making money with it. Also, Firefox gets mo

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"David Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Tim Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Part of their behavior really escape me. The whole thing about >> browser wars confuses me. Web browsers represent a zero billion >> dollar a year market. Why woul

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> "David Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > "Tim Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"David Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> "David Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> "Tim Roberts" <[EMAIL PR

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"Matt Garrish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Tim Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> "Jeroen Wenting" wrote: >>> >>>Microsoft isn't evil, they're not a monopoly either. >>>If they were a monopoly they'd have 100% of the market and there'd be >>>no other s

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bengt Richter) wrote: > On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:14:45 GMT, Roedy Green > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 08:32:09 -0500, l v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted : >> >>>I think e-mail should be text only. > I think that is a useful base standard, which allows

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> > John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > >> >> "David Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gordon Burditt) wrote: But HTML is not the problem! >>> Right, it's what the HTML-interpreting engines might do that is >>> the problem. >> >>You mean the same problem as for example using a very long header in >>your email to cause a buffer overflow? That is possible with

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"Mike Schilling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Which standards? W3C doesn't make standards (they talk about working >> drafts and recommendations), so

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 00:47:09 +0000, John Bokma wrote: > >> Ok, let me spell it out for you: If all your applications are web >> based, and the OS shouldn't matter, why do Linux distributions >> matter? It does

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"Matt Garrish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> "Matt Garrish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Eventually the hope is that your OS and br

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

Tor Iver Wilhelmsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> No, it's a recommendation, an advise, nothing else. > > It is a de facto standard instead of a de jure standard. Yup, a recommendation. -- John

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"David Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Ok, let me spell it out for you: If all your applications are web >> based, and the OS shouldn't matter,

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 05:26:51 +0000, John Bokma wrote: > >> Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 00:47:09 +, John Bokma wrote: >>> >>>> Ok, le

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

Roel Schroeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma wrote: >> web based applications that work with any browser make OS irrelevant >> -> not true, since for OpenOffice it doesn't matter which Linux >> distribution one runs (or even if it's Linux), yet

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > John Bokma wrote: > >> No: the historical fact is that MS whiped Netscape of the planet. > > By giving IE away for free, by ripping off spyglass, by _paying_ OEMs > to not include Netscape. By bundling IE. By abusing standards. Which stan

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:57:19 +0000, John Bokma wrote: > >> As soon as products can't evolve >> much more, the producers will find ways to make them even better >> compared to last week. > > So once

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

Roel Schroeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma wrote: >> Roel Schroeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>John Bokma wrote: >> >>>>web based applications that work with any browser make OS irrelevant >>>>-> not true,

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thanks for spelling it out for me. Now could you spell out what this > has to do with Microsoft's intentions? Making sure that even if there is a move of applications locally to running on the web, that they are selling 80% of the software that makes it happen. -- J

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"Mike Schilling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >> No, it's a recommendation, an advise, nothing else. Otherwise they >> would call it a standard. Why do you think W3C calls it >> recommen

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 15 Oct 2005 22:47:45 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > or quoted : > >>Opera seems to be making money with it. Also, Firefox gets money from >>Google kickback. Maybe MS had a similar idea in mind, but it fa

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 16 Oct 2005 05:22:47 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > or quoted : > >>No, it's a recommendation, an advise, nothing else. Otherwise they >>would call it a standard. Why do you think W3C calls it >>

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"Mike Schilling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Yup, but ISO C++ is a standard, and XML is a recommendation. > > And the practical difference between the two is &

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"David Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> "David Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> You don't get it. T

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

Roel Schroeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma wrote: >> Roel Schroeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>But that's not the point; the point is that they have the choice. >>>If MS had it its way, they wouldn't have that choice. >>

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 00:17:03 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote: > >> Yup. When NS was the 800 lb gorilla > > When was this? When did Netscape have a monopoly in any market? > > Netscape was never the 800 lb gorilla. > >> on they acted like MS, > > When did

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 16 Oct 2005 00:47:09 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > or quoted : > >>Ok, let me spell it out for you: If all your applications are web based, >>and the OS shouldn't matter, why do Linux distributio

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bengt Richter) wrote: > On 16 Oct 2005 00:31:38 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bengt Richter) wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:14:45 GMT, Roedy Green >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"Mike Schilling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> "Mike Schilling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:42:09 +0000, John Bokma wrote: > >>> When did Netscape executives perjure themselves in court? >>> >>> When did Netscape commit fraud? Astro-turfing? Patent infringement? >&g

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"Mike Schilling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> On 16 Oct 2005 05:22:47 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 17 Oct 2005 03:17:16 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > or quoted : > >>Which standards? Again: w3c is not an official standards organization. > > What does it take in your book for a standards organisation to

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"Mike Schilling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [ w3c "standard" v.s. ISO ] > You haven't said why you thinbk "standards" are more valuable than > "recommendations". W

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 18 Oct 2005 06:20:56 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > or quoted : > >> >>That an HTML standard (ISO/IEC 15445:2000) and an HTML recommendation by >>w3c (4.01 for example) are two different things

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 18 Oct 2005 06:57:47 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > or quoted : > >>>>That an HTML standard (ISO/IEC 15445:2000) and an HTML >>>>recommendation by w3c (4.01 for example) are two different t

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

Eike Preuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma wrote: > [snip] >> >> I see little difference with other big companies. You're right that >> there is no excuse for such behaviour, but if MS isn't doing it, >> another company will take their plac

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"Mike Schilling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> On 18 Oct 2005 06:57:47 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

"Mike Schilling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now, once more, why are standards" *more valuable* than > "recommendations"? standards are written by internationally recognized independent organisations, v.s. everyone can write a recommendation. For you, and others this doesn't matter, for other

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh, and if you think I'm saying something shocking by suggesting that > somebody is a psychopath, I'm not. Something like one in five of the > general population are psychopaths, psychopaths according to DSM IV, or just some silly test from a magazine?

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

Jerzy Karczmarczuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [ this thread ] > The pollution *is* there, despite the possibility of individual > screening. The subject and the contents violates some basic nsgroup > principles, such as topicality. One to ten irrelevant postings do no > harm. More than hundred - b

Re: Xah's edu corner: on Microsoft hatred

Steve Sobol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Xah Lee wrote: >> Dear Joe, >> >> It is well known that you are an avid hater of Microsoft, from their >> technologies to their leader to their business practices. I have now >> and then seen your impassioned expression of this hatred, scattered >> among y

Re: Xah's edu corner: on Microsoft hatred

"Malcolm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote >> A typical Xah Lee posting... wake me up when he is able to write a >> single post that makes and sense, and doesn't contain fuck or similar >> words. &

Re: Xah's edu corner: on Microsoft hatred

"Default User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A good newsreader and aggressive use of filtering is the best way to > handle such people. The best way is to complain with their ISP/USP and have their account canceled. Kill filing (filtering) is just closing your eyes. -- John Sm

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

"T Beck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If we argue that people are evolving the way e-mail is handled, and > adding entire new feature sets to something which has been around > since the earliest days of the internet, then that's perfectly > feasable. HTML itself has grown. We've also added Javasc

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

Rich Teer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Mike Schilling wrote: > >> Another advantage is that evewry internet-enabled computer today >> already comes with an HTML renderer (AKA browser), so that a message >> saved to a file can be read very easily. > > I think you're missing t

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In comp.lang.perl.misc John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > the argument that usenet should never change seems a little >> > heavy-handed and anachronistic. >> >> No, simple since there *are* alternatives: web ba

Usenet, HTML (was Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry)

Ulrich Hobelmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On the information side (in contrast to the discussion side) RSS is > replacing Usenet, LOL, how? I can't post to RSS feeds. Or do you mean for lurkers? > There is no real reason why NNTP couldn't be used like RSS (i.e. > contain a small description

Re: minimalist regular expression

"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Exists some tool, programs or some able to compute the minimal regular > expression, namely ,taking a series of regular exoression, the minimal > one that makes the same matching? > thanx in advance length? (define minimal) :-D. -- John

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

Paul Rubin wrote: > Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > Another advantage is that evewry internet-enabled computer today >> > already comes with an HTML renderer (AKA browser) >> >> No, they don't. Minimalist Unix distributions don't include a browser >> by defa

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