Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-10-08 Thread John Bokma
27;ll wake up. What a waste of energy. > If people want me to read their email, they should send it to me > in an open, universal format, which for email is plain text. It's > as simple as that. Is Unicode allowed, or is 7 bit ASCII the only right way? -- John S

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-10-09 Thread John Bokma
Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8 Oct 2005 23:39:27 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or > quoted : > >>Yeah, yeah, and 640K is enough for everybody. Same song, different tune. > > For how long. Surely attachments are a stop gap. Can you ima

Re: Python reliability

2005-10-11 Thread John Waycott
it wasn't stresed during high-volume times. The two systems (one for redundancy) that run the Python program have been running for six years. -- John Waycott -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-10-11 Thread John Bokma
Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So let's say I decide to send an email to Donald Knuth. :-) -- John Small Perl scripts: http://johnbokma.com/perl/ Perl programmer available: http://castleamber.com/

Re: scipy.plt legend?

2005-10-11 Thread John Hunter
> "gurkesaft" == gurkesaft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: gurkesaft> Thank you, Robert. I noticed how obsolete it is! gurkesaft> There is no documentation. gurkesaft> Matplotlib freezes my system if I close a plot and make gurkesaft> a new one :(. Bah. Windows :) Have you se

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-10-11 Thread John Bokma
true: "My secretary prints out all messages addressed to taocp at cs.stanford.edu or knuth-bug at cs.stanford.edu, so that I can reply with written comments when I have a chance." <http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/email.html> And I am sure Roedy is aware of this, hence his

Make SimpleXMLRPCServer Require Auth?

2005-10-12 Thread John Abel
Hi, I implemented a SimpleXMLRPCServer, modified it slightly to restrict clients based on their IP, but I need to take it a stage further, and add user authentication. I would appreciate any pointers as to how I might go about this, or any packages which already provide this. I'm guessing th

Re: Make SimpleXMLRPCServer Require Auth?

2005-10-12 Thread John Abel
John Abel wrote: >Hi, > >I implemented a SimpleXMLRPCServer, modified it slightly to restrict >clients based on their IP, but I need to take it a stage further, and >add user authentication. I would appreciate any pointers as to how I >might go about this, or any pack

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-10-12 Thread John Bokma
Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12 Oct 2005 01:43:32 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > or quoted : > >>> So let's say I decide to send an email to Donald Knuth. >> >>:-) > > I did write him, snail mail, and he r

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-10-12 Thread John Bokma
Keith Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are several newsgroups that deal with e-mail abuse. This > discussion isn't being posted to any of them. Please stop. This just adds to the noise, and isn't going to work. Just kill the entire thread. -- John

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-15 Thread John Bokma
here would be 5 computers (not counting game > computers like the Comodores and Spectrums) by 2000 would likely have > come true. Yeah, sure, and we all would be living in caves. -- John Small Perl scripts: http://johnbokma.com/perl/ Perl pro

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-15 Thread John Wingate
in August 1981; SunOS 3.0 in February 1986. Sun Microsystems was incorporated (with four employees) in February 1982. There never was a SunOS 3.8. (SunOS 3.5 was succeeded by 4.0.) And I'm not sure what you mean by "Sun 360"--a Sun 3/60, maybe? -- John Wingate

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-15 Thread John Bokma
much BS in one sentence. > Ironically exactly this > is the key to Linux/*BSD success in the unix server market. ;) Yeah, right. -- John Small Perl scripts: http://johnbokma.com/perl/ Perl programmer available: h

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-15 Thread John Bokma
just companies, not little gods like some want them to be. > then where we are now. Perhaps we even had a other mainstream > architecture like sparcs and powerpc's. But "crippled" like Intel. -- John Small Perl scripts: http://johnbokma.com/perl/

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-15 Thread John Bokma
Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In comp.os.linux.misc John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> The only thing positive about M$ entering the market, probably >>> due to their inef

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-15 Thread John Bokma
ho don't agree. -- John Small Perl scripts: http://johnbokma.com/perl/ Perl programmer available: http://castleamber.com/ I ploink googlegroups.com :-) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-15 Thread John Bokma
"Martin P. Hellwig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma wrote: > >> You mean like the lamp that keeps burning forever, like Philips has? > > No more like all the hydrogen technologies that shell has in their > possession for the last decades and only

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-15 Thread John Bokma
o, Firefox gets money from Google kickback. Maybe MS had a similar idea in mind, but it failed (remember how they wanted to add ads to keywords in webpages?) -- John Small Perl scripts: http://johnbokma.com/perl/ Perl programmer available: http://

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-15 Thread John Bokma
st in making sure it's important > to be running on one of their OSes. Maybe *they* do have a point :-). -- John Small Perl scripts: http://johnbokma.com/perl/ Perl programmer available: http://castleamber.com/

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-15 Thread John Bokma
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> "David Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > "Tim Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-15 Thread John Bokma
"David Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> "David Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> "Tim Roberts" <[EMAIL PR

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-15 Thread John Bokma
that your OS and browser > will become the only means of accessing the internet. And if your OS > and browser are the only way to access the Internet, who in their > right mind would use another system? It's not happening, so what are you talking about? Any developer hop

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-10-15 Thread John Bokma
. > How about pdf? Ah, and that's exploit free? >>Program listings are much more readable on my website. > IMO FOSS pdf could provide all the layout benefits while > avoiding (allowing for bugs) all the downsides of X/HTML in emails. Amazing, so one data format that's o

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-15 Thread John Bokma
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> > John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > >> >> "David Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >

Newbie help

2005-10-15 Thread John Irby
Francis Girard:   Here is the code you are looking for if I read you right:   # Michael Dawson - 1/8/03     import random   print "\tWelcome to 'Guess My Number'!"print "\nI'm thinking of a number between

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-15 Thread John Wingate
Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In comp.os.linux.misc John Wingate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> In comp.os.linux.misc Jeroen Wenting >>> wrote: >>>> Without Microsoft 90% of us

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-10-15 Thread John Bokma
; >>Then you should ask people to print it out, and use snail mail. >>Exploits in email programs are not happening since HTML was added to >>them. > > Yes, they are. No, they are not. Buffer overruns with plain ASCII text have happened in the past. Dangerous attachem

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-15 Thread John Bokma
"Mike Schilling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Which standards? W3C doesn't make standards (they talk about working >> drafts and recommendations), so

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-15 Thread John Bokma
Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 00:47:09 +, John Bokma wrote: > >> Ok, let me spell it out for you: If all your applications are web >> based, and the OS shouldn't matter, why do Linux distributions >> matter? It does

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-15 Thread John Bokma
"Matt Garrish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> "Matt Garrish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Eventually the hope is that your OS and br

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-16 Thread John Bokma
Tor Iver Wilhelmsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> No, it's a recommendation, an advise, nothing else. > > It is a de facto standard instead of a de jure standard. Yup, a recommendation. -- John

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-16 Thread John Bokma
"David Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Ok, let me spell it out for you: If all your applications are web >> based, and the OS shouldn't matter,

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-16 Thread John Bokma
Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 05:26:51 +, John Bokma wrote: > >> Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 00:47:09 +, John Bokma wrote: >>> >>>> Ok, le

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-16 Thread John Bokma
Roel Schroeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma wrote: >> web based applications that work with any browser make OS irrelevant >> -> not true, since for OpenOffice it doesn't matter which Linux >> distribution one runs (or even if it's Linux), yet

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-16 Thread John Bokma
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > John Bokma wrote: > >> No: the historical fact is that MS whiped Netscape of the planet. > > By giving IE away for free, by ripping off spyglass, by _paying_ OEMs > to not include Netscape. By bundling IE. By abusing standards. Which stan

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-16 Thread John Bokma
Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:57:19 +, John Bokma wrote: > >> As soon as products can't evolve >> much more, the producers will find ways to make them even better >> compared to last week. > > So once

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-16 Thread John Bokma
Roel Schroeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma wrote: >> Roel Schroeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>John Bokma wrote: >> >>>>web based applications that work with any browser make OS irrelevant >>>>-> not true,

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-16 Thread John Bokma
s it happen. -- John Small Perl scripts: http://johnbokma.com/perl/ Perl programmer available: http://castleamber.com/ I ploink googlegroups.com :-) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-16 Thread John Bokma
"Mike Schilling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >> No, it's a recommendation, an advise, nothing else. Otherwise they >> would call it a standard. Why do you think W3C calls it >> recommen

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-16 Thread John Bokma
Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 15 Oct 2005 22:47:45 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > or quoted : > >>Opera seems to be making money with it. Also, Firefox gets money from >>Google kickback. Maybe MS had a similar idea in mind, but it fa

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-16 Thread John Bokma
Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 16 Oct 2005 05:22:47 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > or quoted : > >>No, it's a recommendation, an advise, nothing else. Otherwise they >>would call it a standard. Why do you think W3C calls it >>

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-17 Thread John Bokma
"Mike Schilling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Yup, but ISO C++ is a standard, and XML is a recommendation. > > And the practical difference between the two is &

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-17 Thread John Bokma
"David Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> "David Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> You don't get it. T

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-17 Thread John Bokma
Roel Schroeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma wrote: >> Roel Schroeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>But that's not the point; the point is that they have the choice. >>>If MS had it its way, they wouldn't have that choice. >>

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-17 Thread John Bokma
yet learnt > about karma. Which is a good thing, since MS is not a human being. It's a company, a thing to make money, so it can make more money. -- John Small Perl scripts: http://johnbokma.com/perl/ Perl programmer available: http://castlea

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-17 Thread John Bokma
Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 16 Oct 2005 00:47:09 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > or quoted : > >>Ok, let me spell it out for you: If all your applications are web based, >>and the OS shouldn't matter, why do Linux distributio

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-10-17 Thread John Bokma
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bengt Richter) wrote: > On 16 Oct 2005 00:31:38 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bengt Richter) wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:14:45 GMT, Roedy Green >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-17 Thread John Bokma
"Mike Schilling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> "Mike Schilling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-17 Thread John Bokma
Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:42:09 +, John Bokma wrote: > >>> When did Netscape executives perjure themselves in court? >>> >>> When did Netscape commit fraud? Astro-turfing? Patent infringement? >&g

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-17 Thread John Bokma
"Mike Schilling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> On 16 Oct 2005 05:22:47 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-17 Thread John Bokma
Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 17 Oct 2005 03:17:16 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > or quoted : > >>Which standards? Again: w3c is not an official standards organization. > > What does it take in your book for a standards organisation to

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-17 Thread John Bokma
"Mike Schilling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [ w3c "standard" v.s. ISO ] > You haven't said why you thinbk "standards" are more valuable than > "recommendations". W

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-18 Thread John Bokma
Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 18 Oct 2005 06:20:56 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > or quoted : > >> >>That an HTML standard (ISO/IEC 15445:2000) and an HTML recommendation by >>w3c (4.01 for example) are two different things

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-18 Thread John Wingate
Richard Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here in comp.os.linux.misc, > John Wingate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake unto us, saying: > >>Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> It seems to me that I was using 3.x. Maybe it was 3.1? I seem to

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-18 Thread John Bokma
Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 18 Oct 2005 06:57:47 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > or quoted : > >>>>That an HTML standard (ISO/IEC 15445:2000) and an HTML >>>>recommendation by w3c (4.01 for example) are two different t

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-18 Thread John Bokma
Eike Preuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bokma wrote: > [snip] >> >> I see little difference with other big companies. You're right that >> there is no excuse for such behaviour, but if MS isn't doing it, >> another company will take their plac

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-18 Thread John Bokma
"Mike Schilling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "John Bokma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> On 18 Oct 2005 06:57:47 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-18 Thread John Bokma
and others this doesn't matter, for others it does. Why do you think Microsoft made part of .NET a standard? They could perfectly write up recommendations on .NET themselves, written drafts, or RFCs and leave it at that. -- John Small Perl scripts: http://johnbokma.com/perl

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-18 Thread John Bokma
ly doing that harm is, or at least should be, although sadly > when we allow the psychopaths to make the rules, they tend to make > rules that allow themselves to prosper at our expense. Hmmmm... and probably one in three is paranoid? -- John Small Perl scripts: http://johnbokma.

Re: "dynamical" importing

2005-10-19 Thread John Abel
Try: userModule = _importModule( pathToModule ) def _importModule( moduleName ): modName = __import__ ( moduleName ) modComponents = moduleName.split( '.' ) for indivComp in modComponents[ 1: ]: modName = getattr( modName, indivComp ) return modName HTH, J Joerg Schust

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-19 Thread John Bokma
mp.unix.programmer, comp.lang.java.programmer, and comp.os.linux.misc? -- John Small Perl scripts: http://johnbokma.com/perl/ Perl programmer available: http://castleamber.com/ I ploink googlegroups.com :-) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: "dynamical" importing

2005-10-19 Thread John Abel
Fredrik Lundh wrote: >John Abel wrote: > > > >>def _importModule( moduleName ): >>modName = __import__ ( moduleName ) >>modComponents = moduleName.split( '.' ) >>for indivComp in modComponents[ 1: ]: >>modName =

How to add one month to datetime?

2005-10-21 Thread John W
dd 30 days. I have seen where mxDateTimes are being used to do this, but I was wondering if there is simple way of doing this with built in datetime object? Thanks in advance. John -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: write a loopin one line; process file paths

2005-10-24 Thread John Thingstad
considered as troll, and the inter-language > communication has been essentially completely cut off. Basically, the > only ones generating all the garbage posts are these troll-criers > themselves. (will have to flesh out on this particular point of > net-sociology in a essay some oth

Python/Apache Oddness On OSX

2005-10-24 Thread John Abel
Hi, I'm running Python 2.3.5/2.4.2 on OSX 10.4.2, and am trying to run CGI scripts using the builtin Apache. For ease, I've symlinked my custom modules into the /Library/Python/2.3/site-packages directory, and they import OK via command line python. However, when I perform the import from a

Re: Python/Apache Oddness On OSX

2005-10-25 Thread John Abel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >John Abel wrote: > > >>Hi, >> >>I'm running Python 2.3.5/2.4.2 on OSX 10.4.2, and am trying to run CGI >>scripts using the builtin Apache. For ease, I've symlinked my custom >>modules into the /Library/Python/2.3/

Re: Security on XML-RPC

2005-10-25 Thread John Abel
dcrespo wrote: >Hi all, > >Anyone knows a simpler but stronger control access to XML-RPC functions >than the one I comment here? > >My actual system works like this: > >I have a TCP Server and an XML-RPC Server. Both of them verify if the >IP address is allowed. > >The TCP Server works for validat

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-25 Thread John Wingate
Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That would be a good guess, except that Microsoft's predatory and illegal > behaviour began long before OS/2 was even planned. It began in the mid > 1970s, with MS DOS. Nitpick: MS-DOS first appeared i

Re: Looping Problem (Generating files - only the last record generates a file)

2005-10-26 Thread John Abel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Hello All, > >I have a problem with the program that should generate x number of txt >files (x is the number of records in the file datafile.txt). > >Once I execute the program (see below) only one file (instead of x >files) is created. The file created is based on the la

suggestions between these two books

2005-10-26 Thread John Salerno
Hi all. I'm fairly new to programming and I thought I'd like to try Python. I'm trying to decide between these two books: Learning Python (O'Reilly) Beginning Python: From Novice to Professional (APress) and I was hoping you might have some suggestions. LP seems to be a good intro, but the othe

Re: suggestions between these two books

2005-10-26 Thread John Salerno
Correction: LP covers 2.3. The other covers 2.4. John Salerno wrote: > Hi all. I'm fairly new to programming and I thought I'd like to try > Python. I'm trying to decide between these two books: > > Learning Python (O'Reilly) > Beginning Python: From Novic

Re: xml.dom.minidom - parseString - How to avoid ExpatError?

2005-10-26 Thread John Abel
Try this page: http://docs.python.org/lib/module-xml.sax.saxutils.html I've just tried the code, taking out the  , and adding in the belo, as the XML is not well formed, otherwise. The code then works. HTH J Gregory Piñero wrote: > Should I try some sort of XML group instead? I'm still s

Re: suggestions between these two books

2005-10-26 Thread John Salerno
Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I should mention that I misspoke when I said I'm new to programming. I've actually been learning C# for the past few months, and I'm fairly familiar with a lot of programming basics. I just wanted to make sure no one recommended an "Expert" level book! :)

Re: xml.dom.minidom - parseString - How to avoid ExpatError?

2005-10-27 Thread John Abel
Have a look on: http://xml.com/pub/a/98/10/guide0.html?page=4#WELLFORMED Explains it better then I can. J Gregory Piñero wrote: > What do you mean by well-formed? What is required to make XML well > formed? > > -Greg > > > On 10/26/05, *John Abel* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-27 Thread John Gordon
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "David Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What is an "illegal monopoly"? A monopoly that acts in certain ways, abusing its monopoly power. There's nothing inherently illegal about having a monopoly; it only becomes ill

Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ

2005-10-27 Thread John Gordon
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "David Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When you say "it only become illegal", you are just being vague. Nothing > becomes illegal. The abuse is illegal, but it never was legal. You're splitting hairs. B

Asyncore Loop Question

2005-10-31 Thread John W
Hello, I have a gui application where I am trying to use the asyncore module to gather data from other computers.  I am able to connect, but I am getting constant handle_write_event method calls into my application.  It is obviously slowing down the gui processing significantly. My understanding

Re: Asyncore Loop Question

2005-10-31 Thread John W
first socket program as well. Thanks, JohnOn 10/31/05, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: John W wrote:> Hello,>> I have a gui application where I am trying to use the asyncore module to> gather data from other computers. I am able to connect, but I am getting> constant hand

Does Asyncore Send require newline?

2005-10-31 Thread John W
elp, I would appreciate it. Thanks, John -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Does Asyncore Send require newline?

2005-10-31 Thread John W
= class TestAppClient:     def __init__( self, server, socket ):     self.server = server     self.socket = socket       self.nomad = Connection( server, socket )     asyncore.loop(count=1) The

Python for .NET and IronPython

2005-11-02 Thread John Salerno
guage, and what the learning process for either language would be like as a result. Thanks, John -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python for .NET and IronPython

2005-11-02 Thread John Salerno
John Salerno wrote: > code? I know Python for .NET is treated as a true language in the CLR, > but I don't quite grasp what all this means for each language isn't* treated, I meant to say! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

another beginner sort of question

2005-11-02 Thread John Salerno
Ok, like I mentioned before, I'm learning C# for fun. I'm interested in learning Python sort of as a "supplement" (by that, I mean a language with scripting capabilities that can do things maybe simpler than C# might). One concern I have about learning them simultaneously is that I'll start to

Learning multiple languages (question for general discussion)

2005-11-03 Thread John Salerno
After my last post, I thought of another question as a result of the following: -- Mike Meyer wrote: > John Salerno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [Wants to learn C# and Python simultaneously.] > >>So my question is, is this feasible? >

Re: another beginner sort of question

2005-11-03 Thread John Salerno
Thanks! Mike Meyer wrote: > John Salerno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [Wants to learn C# and Python simultaneously.] > >>So my question is, is this feasible? > > > Should be. It might be faster to do them sequentually. > > >>Or does learning P

Re: Learning multiple languages (question for general discussion)

2005-11-03 Thread John Salerno
LOL. As weird as it sounds, that's what I *don't* want to happen with C#! I've spent a lot of time with it, and I love it, but I don't want Python to take over! :) infidel wrote: > Python has spoiled me. I used to periodically try out new languages > just for fun, but since learning Python,

newbie questions

2005-11-05 Thread john boy
have a few questions...i'm a newbieso i'd appreciate any help   1- what is the difference between Python GUI and Python command line?   2-in Python command line when I hit enter after typing a command I cannot go back and "delete" "backspace" or otherwise edit a previous command...why?   3-I ha

"how to think like a computer scientist"

2005-11-06 Thread john boy
Ok...I'm new to Python..and of course am already having troubles.   I have tried the following example from "how to think like a computer> scientist">> def newline():> print>> print "firstline"> newline()> print "secondline">> problem iswhenever I type -print "firstline"- and then hit enter

"how to think like a computer scientist"

2005-11-06 Thread john boy
I am using the book "how to think like a computer scientist" and am finding the examples are not working with Python 2.4.2...I have typed them exactly as they appear in the textcan someone relate to this?...is this typical b/c 2.4.2 is a newer version?   -xray- Yahoo! FareChase - Search mul

RAW_INPUT

2005-11-07 Thread john boy
I am having trouble with the following example used in a tutorial:   print "Halt !" s = raw_input ("Who Goes there? ") print "You may pass,", s   I run this and get the following: Halt! Who Goes there?   --thats itif I hit enter again "You may pass," appears...   In the example after running y

what the %?....

2005-11-08 Thread john boy
Hey can somebody tell me what the "%" function does...I am not math illiterate...its just a new symbol for meis it a divisor? remainder something another??   thanks -xray- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-li

RAW_INPUT-----NEVERMIND I FIGURED IT OUT

2005-11-08 Thread john boy
i had posted a previous question but I figured it out...thanks Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Invoking Python from Python

2005-11-08 Thread John Henry
Hi all, I have a need to create a Python script on the fly from another Python program and then execute the script so created. Do I need to invoke Python through os.spawnl or is there a better way? Thanks, -- John -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Python Countdown

2005-11-11 Thread john boy
I am running the following program from the example in "how to think like a computer scientist"   def countdown(n):   if n ==0:    print "Blastoff!"   else:   print n   countdown (n-1)   countdown (1000)   When I set "n"= 1000 the program runs in interpreter and stop

tutorial example

2005-11-11 Thread john boy
Can somebody tell me why you have to have "return result" in the below program as suggested in a beginner tutorial.  I ran the second listed program below without "return result" and they both give the same value in Python interpreter.  What does "return result" do?   def distance(x1, y1, x2, y2):

how to think like a computer scientist

2005-11-11 Thread john boy
Question for the following program: sec 5.5   def factorial (n):    if n == 0:   return 1    else:   recurse = factorial (n-1)   result = n * recurse   return result   How come whenever I state the function with "n" given a value it prints no results in the interpreter for EX:   de

tutorial example?????

2005-11-12 Thread john boy
OK...I have the following program   i = 1 while i <= 6:     print 2 * i,'   ',     i = i + 1 print   this is supposed to give you a "new" blank line after the program runs instead it just gives: 2   4   6   8   10   12 >>>   instead of: 2   4   6   8   10   12   >>>   to get the above return I have

HOW do you stop a print???

2005-11-13 Thread john boy
ok...I am running the following program:   def printMultiples (n): i = 1 while i <= 6:  print n*i,   ' \t ', i = i + 1 i = 1 while i <= 6: printMultiples(i) i = i + 1   this is supposed to return a simple multiplication table, but for some reason it does not want to s

newbie help needed

2005-11-14 Thread john boy
I am running the following program:   def print Multiples (n, high):     i = 1     while i <= high: print n*i, ' \t' , i = i + 1 print def printMultTable (high): i = 1 while i <= high: print Multiples (i, high) i = i + 1 printMultiples(8,8) printMul

more newbie help needed

2005-11-14 Thread john boy
using the following program:   fruit = "banana" index = 0 while index < len (fruit): letter = fruit[index-1] print letter index= index -1   this program is supposed to spell "banana" backwards and in a vertical patern...it does thisbut after spelling "banana" it gives an error me

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