On Sat, 2005-07-30 at 09:08 +, Nemesis wrote:
> Hi all,
> I found that the function parsedate_tz of the rfc822 module has a bug
> (or at least I think so).
> I found a usenet article (message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
> that has this Date field:
>
> Date: Tue,26 Jul 2005 13:14:27 GMT +0200
My
On Sat, 2005-07-30 at 08:01 -0600, Ivan Van Laningham wrote:
> Tony Meyer wrote:
> >
> > >> (Those who are offended by sweeping generalisations should
> > >> ignore this next bit)
> > [...generalisation bit snipped...]
> > > This is not only bullshit, it's elitist bullshit. "Windows users are
> >
On Sat, 2005-07-30 at 12:06 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Peter Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > The last time I checked (as I recall), at least Wax and possibly Dabo
> > both either lagged well behind recent wxPython developments of provide
> > relatively limited support, leaving out a sizable
On Sat, 2005-07-30 at 14:44 -0700, Fernando M. wrote:
> Hi,
> i made a test with smtplib module a few days ago, for sending mails,
> and i was wondering if there's another module for running an SMTP
> server, so i could make a standalone script for sending mails without
> using an external SMTP ser
On Sat, 2005-07-30 at 20:29 -0700, James Stroud wrote:
> I am going to go ahead and throw out Dabo with all of the others that claim
> quick development of an application. You try them and then you get bugs,
> bugs, bugs. Or they don't compile without 16000 dependencies. Forget it. My
> advice i
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 00:59 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
> I don't particularly like Tkinter, but it seems to me that it's pretty
> much won. It seems to be installed on every desktop platform along
> with Python. That means that if I want to distribute GUI apps, I'm
> going to cause the least headach
On Sat, 2005-07-30 at 16:52 -0700, Bugs wrote:
> Cliff Wells wrote:
> >
> > But how stable is GTK on systems such as Windows and OS/X? That has
> > been what has kept me from using it. Most GTK apps I've used on Windows
> > (including the venerable GIMP) are
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 10:01 +0200, Torsten Bronger wrote:
> Hallöchen!
>
> Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > [...]
> >
> > The least headache for end users comes from properly packaging your
> > application. End users shouldn't need to
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 04:23 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Torsten Bronger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >> Does py2exe work for all GUI libraries?
> > > No, it's Windows-only.
> > However, OS'es and GUI libraries are different axes in the space of
> > possibilities.
>
> I'm not sure what you mean.
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 01:08 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > application. End users shouldn't need to worry about installing third
> > party packages (or even Python for that matter). Tools such as py2exe
> > and Inno inst
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 00:23 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil hunt) writes:
> > What you say Pythonic, what do you mean? And how do you rate
> > Tkinter, PyGtk, PyQt/PyKDE, wxWindows for "Pythonicness"?
>
> Tkinter is not very Pythonic because it's sort of a Frankenstein
> hybri
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 10:07 -0700, Kay Schluehr wrote:
> Some other people already abandoned Python not for the worst reasons:
>
> http://www.kevin-walzer.com/pivot/entry.php?id=69
Being a developer requires not only a bit of brains, but quite a bit of
tenacity as well. Apparently Kevin lacks t
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 14:58 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
> And what do I use to bundle my application for Unix? Most of the
> things I build get installed on Unix servers.
You install GUI apps on Unix *servers*?
Regardless, when you say "Unix", what do you mean? You may as well say
"OS" as this te
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 13:14 +0200, Benjamin Niemann wrote:
> But you should be aware of the fact that (if you send mail from a dialup
> machine without going through a relay server) your mails will quickly be
> marked as spam - I hope you do not intend to send spam...
Yah, Postfix on my servers u
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 00:32 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Those issues about the 1600 dependencies don't apply nearly as much to
> pure Python modules (e.g. Twisted) as they do to extension modules
> that require the presence of further stuff on the system. E.g., on
> Linux, to use wxPython, you nee
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 01:03 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Then why are you using Python at all? Shouldn't you be in the "safe
> > home" of Java or Visual Basic, where "standards" are all you have?
>
> I
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 18:00 +, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 00:13:18 -0400, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> declaimed
> the following in comp.lang.python:
>
> >
> > Sorry you feel that way. You'll miss out on really great Python products
> > that
> > aren't in the standard L
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 12:48 -0700, Kay Schluehr wrote:
> Cliff Wells wrote:
>
> > > My objection with wrappers around wrappers around wrappers is that I
> > > have no hope ever watching the ground. If some error occurs, which
> > > layer has to be addressed? Whi
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 18:01 -0300, Jorge Godoy wrote:
> Mike Meyer wrote:
>
> > We already have multiple distributions of Python: CPython, IronPython,
> > and Jython (and there's at least one more). We even have multiple
> > distributions of CPython, what with Active State doing their own and
> >
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 23:46 +0200, Torsten Bronger wrote:
> Hallöchen!
>
> Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > [...]
> >
> > Well, I think this exposes one of the more interesting sides of
> > open source software in general. For better or
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 16:23 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Torsten Bronger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I can't really understand your hostility towards non-Tkinter
> > toolkits. In the case of wxPython, it's part of SUSE, which is
> > probably also true for Fedora and Mandriva. Installing is as e
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 16:22 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > wxWidgets/wxPython hasn't required GTK 1.x in quite a long time. Please
> > get your facts straight.
>
> It did last time I tried installing it, which was maybe
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 16:57 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > And what do I use to bundle my application for Unix? Most of the
> > > things I build get installed on Unix servers.
> >
> > You install GUI apps on Unix *se
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 17:16 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > It did last time I tried installing it, which was maybe 3-6 months ago.
> > > Someone posted that it had been updated recently.
> >
> > Looking on SourceFo
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 16:38 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > The bottom line is this: some people like Tk, some wxPython. Each has
> > advantages and disadvantages. But to claim that you *can only* do
> > something in one or the o
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 17:45 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > The usual way to do that is with a web GUI, but nothing stops you from
> > > running Tkinter on a Unix server through a remote X connection.
> >
> > Of cour
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 23:47 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
commentary about how Paul wants to both not install *anything* and if he
does have to install something he must compile it from source because he
shouldn't have had to do it in the first place therefore he needs to
make it as difficult as poss
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 08:53 +0100, phil hunt wrote:
> I was under the impression -- from reading this ng -- that wx was
> buggy on some platforms and less portable than Tkinter. Not true?
It depends on how you define "buggy" and "portable"... also "platform"
is up for grabs too ;)
On the seriou
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 12:28 +0200, Benjamin Niemann wrote:
> Cliff Wells wrote:
> > As an aside, I will say that many SMTP servers that service home users
> > (i.e. Comcast, et al) limit the amount of mail that you can send within
> > a defined period.
>
> Or completel
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 14:20 +0200, Marek Kubica wrote:
> If you already tried GIMP on Windows, better try Inkscape on Windows.. that
> piece of GTK software is really good.
I don't do any actual work under Windows any more. My Windows VMware
session is purely for testing Windows apps and website
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 08:30 -0400, Ed Leafe wrote:
> On Sunday 31 July 2005 20:09, James Stroud wrote:
> No problem. But let me ask you what would *not* have disappointed you. As
> others have pointed out, you didn't compile the wxWidgets part of your
> wxPython install so as to include the sty
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 06:04 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Command 'nuisance' not recognized.
Hm, seemed to work anyway.
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On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 16:21 +0200, Daniel Dittmar wrote:
> Cliff Wells wrote:
> > But then I'm willing to
> > actually work a little to get what I want. For other it seems they
> > won't be happy unless you drive to their house and install it for them
>
>
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 02:37 +1000, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> there is a reason why Lisp is a niche language, with very little if any use
> in the commercial world.
Eric Naggum?
Regards,
Cliff
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On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 13:28 -0300, Jorge Godoy wrote:
>
> We can find several problems, almost all of them can be solved with the
> admin's creativity.
>>> import creativity
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in ?
ImportError: No module named creativity
>>>
Nope. Not includ
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 10:57 -0700, Paul McNett wrote:
> Terry Reedy wrote:
> > "Ed Leafe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >>I'm serious here: I want to know what people consider acceptable for a
> >>software package that relies on other packages.
>
> > To me,
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 15:26 -0400, Mark Roseman wrote:
> > How can I embed a browser in Tk (I mean a real browser, like Mozilla,
> > Safari, or even Exploder)? At all? On any platform? This has always
> > been the tradeoff for Tk.
>
> Try this as one example:
> http://wiki.tcl.tk/4094
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 13:38 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Peter Decker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > We were discussing your 'enormous pain' installing wxPython. I find it
> > interesting that you selectively quoted part of one line of my post,
>
> Yes, the one line I quoted was the one that said m
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 14:13 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Still, that leaves Linux and Mac out in the cold. But I'll admit you
> > met my challenge. Most likely you can actually do most of the things
> > with Tk you can
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 14:16 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > It was quite clear that by saying "most people" he was not referring to
> > the set of "most Python users", but rather the set of "most people who
>
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 17:54 -0400, Mark Roseman wrote:
>
> I'll point out that this has been done (in fact, many times). For
> example:
> http://tkhtml.hwaci.com
>
> (Integrating Gecko in has also been done, as a side note).
Interesting. Your later point about hard to find is certainly
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 23:49 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
> Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 14:58 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
> >> And what do I use to bundle my application for Unix? Most of the
> >> things I build get installed
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 23:56 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
> I think you have me confused with someone else. I was responding to
> someone who was claiming that the lack of a standard enterprise
> strength GUI toolkit was a serious problem for Python - I disagree. I
> won't recap the thread, but other l
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 00:18 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
> Or maybe you could switch to Jython, and just use swing?
Man, c.l.py is getting *mean* ;)
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On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 09:45 +0200, Torsten Bronger wrote:
> Yes, this is what I meant with "legacy code". C and C++ are
> actually special-purpose. They are good for controlling a computer
> but not for implementing an idea. Their current vitality on almost
> all software areas arise from the f
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 20:17 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
> Um - you're not answering the question I asked. I asked "What app do I
> use to bundle my applications for Unix, ala py2exe (or whatever it is)
> for Windows?" You're telling me how to install wxPython on those
> platforms.
> I know how to ins
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 09:47 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
> Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 20:17 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
> >
> >> Um - you're not answering the question I asked. I asked "What app do I
> >> us
On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 01:04 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
> Right. Let's go back to the original question: What's the app I use on
> Unix that acts like py2exe on Windows and py2app on Unix?
>
> Any archiving system can be coerced into collecting all the parts
> together. None of them do it automatica
On Sat, 2005-08-06 at 03:24 -0700, Kay Schluehr wrote:
> No good news for scripting-language fans:
>
> http://www.phpmag.net/itr/news/psecom,id,23284,nodeid,113.html
It didn't say what they left PHP, Perl and Python for (if you are to
even believe their findings).
PHP has been losing programmers
On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 06:55 -0700, Paul Boddie wrote:
> Eric Pederson wrote:
> > Why is Ruby, and Ruby on Rails, getting such strong play?
>
> Relentless hype from blogging celebrities?
This is certainly part of it, but I feel it ignores the much deeper
reasons which are the root of this hype. I
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 10:10 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > The second presentation (I don't recall the speaker's name) specifically
> > covered metaprogramming (writing DSLs) and one of the things I found
> > interesting
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 09:28 -0800, Ron Griswold wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
>
>
> Can someone point me in the direction of an html library that
> generates html text for you. For example, if I had a tuple of tuples,
> I’d like a function that would create a table for me. I’ve looked
> through the stan
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 17:12 -0300, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
> On 2006-07-31 15:00:15, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
>
> > In fact, the real question IMHO is: what would MySQL advantage over
> > PostgreSQL be ?-)
>
> A few years ago I did some research, and the result was that while
> PostgreSQL was c
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 15:21 -0400, Michael Yanowitz wrote:
> Is it possible to have a static variable in Python -
> a local variable in a function that retains its value.
>
> For example, suppose I have:
>
> def set_bit (bit_index, bit_value):
>static bits = [0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 13:02 -0700, Cliff Wells wrote:
> @attrs ( bits = [ 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 ] )
Also, IMO, it's a bit more readable to write:
bits = [ 0 for i in range ( 16 ) ]
which avoids the necessity of counting the zeros to know how many there
are.
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 13:37 -0700, Cliff Wells wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 13:02 -0700, Cliff Wells wrote:
>
>
> > @attrs ( bits = [ 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 ] )
>
> Also, IMO, it's a bit more readable to write:
>
> bits = [ 0 for i i
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 15:21 -0400, Michael Yanowitz wrote:
> Is it possible to have a static variable in Python -
> a local variable in a function that retains its value.
>
> For example, suppose I have:
>
> def set_bit (bit_index, bit_value):
>static bits = [0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 17:58 -0300, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
> On 2006-07-31 17:28:00, Cliff Wells wrote:
>
> >> I assume you don't agree... :)
> >
> > I certainly don't. [...]
>
> > Also, saying "a few years ago I did some research" in s
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 14:40 -0700, northband wrote:
> Just spoke with my department and looks like we still want to go with a
> server scripting method. Although MVC may be better fit, for the sake
> of the learning curve, we want to use a PSP style method.
I'm with the others who suggest using a
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 15:06 -0700, northband wrote:
> Makes sense, I will follow your advice. Sounds like more time invest
> upfront will equal time saved over the long run. I am defitely
> interested in proxy caching and load balancing. Which do you
> recommend? I have used #Pound while workin
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 14:03 +0100, Ben Edwards wrote:
> Am going through Chapter 9 - HTTP Web Services in dive into Python. It
> uses the following:
>
> data = urllib.urlopen('http://diveintomark.org/xml/atom.xml').read()
>
> The page no longer exists, can anyone recommend an alternative page to
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 21:57 -0300, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
> On 2006-07-31 18:23:17, Cliff Wells wrote:
>
> > My point is to stop FUD right at that comment. I don't doubt your
> > research from "a few years ago", but ancient research is entirely
> >
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 01:47 +, John Savage wrote:
> I have a free web mail address and would like to use python to retrieve
> files that have been emailed to me. The basic code would accommodate
> cookies, a login name and password, then download using the full URL I
> can provide. From posting
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 22:25 -0700, Luis M. González wrote:
> I don't have experience with Django or any other python framework, but
> I have used bare-bones mod_python and it rocks.
> I wouldn't use PSP though...
> It is not very polished, and they way it handles the "indentation
> problem" in pyth
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 10:41 -0300, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
> On 2006-08-01 04:11:18, Cliff Wells wrote:
>
> > You say that you haven't tried Django or any other Python framework.
> > Perhaps you should. You seem to have at least the start of the right
> > idea about
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 06:38 -0700, Luis M. González wrote:
> Well... yes, you're right.
> I guess that the reason for not having used a framework already is
> laziness...
Trust me, I'm quite familiar with the laziness problem =)
> I have experience with Karrigell, which rocks too, but it lacks s
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 07:37 -0400, Michael Yanowitz wrote:
> # * class BitsClass *
> class BitsClass (object):
> def __init__(self, num_bits):
> self.bits=[]
> for i in range(num_bits):
> self.bits.append(0)
> de
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 23:26 -0300, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
> Or is there something in PostgreSQL that makes its users acidic? :)
Well, ACID is popular in PostgreSQL circles.
Cliff
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On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 10:46 -0300, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
> On 2006-08-02 00:51:28, Conrad wrote:
>
> > Which begins "A few years ago"
>
> Exactly. Isn't this a good start for honesty? It doesn't claim to state
> anything up to date.
>
> It continues "I did some research", "some" being a very c
On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 23:13 -0300, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
> Thanks, that's one of the conclusions to which I also came. That final
> question was missing, even though I felt it was implied. I really had no
> clue that this is such a touchy subject.
Every opinion in technology seems to be touchy
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 15:51 +0200, paul kölle wrote:
> Cliff Wells wrote:
>
> > For myself, I handle user-installation of TurboGears pretty much like I
> > do all user-installed Python packages: using setuptools. Any user who
> > uses easy_install or 'python setup.py
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 09:49 +0200, Sybren Stuvel wrote:
> Cliff Wells enlightened us with:
> > 1) PostgreSQL fans are perhaps a bit paranoid about claims of MySQL
> > being better. There used to be a tiny bit of truth in this claim
> > for certain applications (mostly relati
Started playing with docutils and don't understand why the following
doesn't work:
>>> from docutils.core import publish_parts
>>> t = '''
...
... 1. this is a test
... #. this is another line
... #. oh, screw it!
...
... '''
>>> publish_parts ( t, writer_name = 'html' ) [ 'body' ]
u'1. this is a
On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 09:35 +0200, Sybren Stuvel wrote:
> Cliff Wells enlightened us with:
> > Why doesn't the above turn out an enumerated list?
>
> You have to indent the list:
>
> >>> from docutils.core import publish_parts
> >>> t = '
On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 16:02 +0800, limodou wrote:
> On 8/15/06, Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thanks for the response. Must be a bug in my version:
>
> Which version of docutils you are using, in my computer is good.
>
> u'\nthis is a test\nthis is
&
On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 00:56 -0700, Cliff Wells wrote:
Ah, I got it. From the docs:
(Auto-enumerated lists are new in Docutils 0.3.8.)
and I've got 0.3.7
Damn. Thanks for the responses.
Regards,
Cliff
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On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 16:10 +0800, limodou wrote:
> On 8/15/06, Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 16:02 +0800, limodou wrote:
> > > On 8/15/06, Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Thanks for the response. Must
On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 08:15 +, Tim Roberts wrote:
> Ordinarily, I think the "do it yourself" nature of Python is a great thing,
> and I would never try to dissuade someone from reinventing something
> themselves. However, in the case of web frameworks, I believe Marc is
> fundamentally correc
On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 21:07 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> b = [2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12]
>>> a = [0, 1, 0, 1, 1, 0]
>>> b = [2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12]
>>> [ j for i, j in zip ( a, b ) if i ]
[4, 8, 10]
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On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 02:28 -0700, Paul Boddie wrote:
> Cliff Wells wrote:
> > No, the reason Rails is successful is due to being a decent, focused
> > product with *great* marketing (screencasts, anyone?).
>
> Screencasts? Perhaps, like a great showman, they draw in the
On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 22:13 +0200, Peter Maas wrote:
> Alex Martelli wrote:
> > Indeed, it has been truthfully observed that Python's the only language
> > with more web frameworks than keywords.
> >
> > I have already suggested to the BDFL that he can remedy this situation
> > in Py3k: all he has
On Tue, 2006-11-07 at 08:10 +0200, Hendrik van Rooyen wrote:
> "John Machin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 8<---
>
> > I strongly suggest that you read the docs *FIRST*, and don't "tinker"
> > at all.
> >
> This is *good* advice - its unlikely to be followed
On Mon, 2006-11-06 at 15:47 -0800, John Machin wrote:
> Gabriel Genellina wrote:
> > At Monday 6/11/2006 20:34, Robert Kern wrote:
> >
> > >John Machin wrote:
> > > > Indeed yourself. Have you ever considered reading posts in
> > > > chronological order, or reading all posts in a thread?
> > >
> >
On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 06:49 -0800, Beliavsky wrote:
> Cliff Wells wrote:
> > The LA Times had a story that claimed that 64% of U.S. citizens use the
> > word "fuck" and that 74% of us have heard it in public (I'll assume the
> > remainder are your fellow AOL u
On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 10:12 -0800, Carl J. Van Arsdall wrote:
> BartlebyScrivener wrote:
> > I agree. And Python is an extremely serious matter calling for decorum
> > and propriety.
> >
> Lol, is it really now? And I suppose its your definition of decorum and
> not mine right? Things like t
On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 10:42 -0800, Paddy wrote:
> I too know your wrong Aahz. The written word is not the same as that
> spoken. People should make an effort to put across their meaning in a
> clear manner. If I were going to an interview I would be very careful
> about swearing and most likely no
On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 11:18 -0800, Aahz wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >I'm with Beliavsky on this one. I can't see any particular reason to curse
> >in a forum such as c.l.py. It just coarsens the discussion with no obvious
> >positive benefit as far
On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 04:04 +, Tim Roberts wrote:
> Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >But there are interesting things in Ruby (and Ruby 2 should take care of
> >lots of warts Ruby 1.8 has) that Python could learn from. All-in-all,
> >Ruby is most
On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 04:28 -0700, Paul Boddie wrote:
> Cliff Wells wrote:
> > On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 04:04 +, Tim Roberts wrote:
> > > Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >But there are interesting things in Ruby (and Ruby 2 s
On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 08:19 -0700, gene tani wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I have an idea for a project which involves an editor that supports
> > syntax highlighting. This would be for any language, particularly php,
> > html, css, etc. I would like to write this program using
On Sat, 2006-08-26 at 18:54 +, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> Normally, Python compares the date stamps of the files (and maybe
> some internal magic values) and only rebuilds the .pyc if the .py is
> newer.
Perhaps the OP should check both the system date on his PC and the
timestamp on the
On Sun, 2006-08-27 at 07:51 -0700, Amir Michail wrote:
> How often do you need to open a file multiple times for writing?
How often do you write code that you don't understand well enough to
fix? This issue is clearly a problem within *your* application.
I'm curious how you could possibly think
On Thu, 2006-08-31 at 23:31 +0200, BJörn Lindqvist wrote:
> On 8/31/06, Jorge Vargas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 31 Aug 2006 08:24:29 -0700, Adam Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Someone ones said on the mailing list TG is the Ubuntu of web
> > frameworks, and I think I'll add and you
On Thu, 2006-08-31 at 09:04 -0700, Paul Boddie wrote:
> SkunkWeb (3.4.0), Zope (2.9.4 and 3.2.1), Plone (2.5), Karrigell (2.3),
> CherryPy (2.2.1), Spyce (2.1), QP (1.8), Cymbeline (1.3.1), Django
> (0.95), Webware (0.9.1), Pylons (0.9.1), TurboGears (0.8.9), PyLucid
> (v0.7.0RC4), Paste (0.4.1),
On Sun, 2006-09-03 at 21:30 -0700, sridhar wrote:
> is there any way to call stored procedures from python as in java?
I mostly use PostgreSQL, so perhaps it's different for some other
databases, but calling stored procedures doesn't require any special
support from the language or driver. Usuall
On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 13:01 +0200, Fredrik Lundh wrote:
> Mike Owens wrote:
>
> > Crackpot? And now we get to why I took the flamebait -- wonderfully
> > constructive comments such as this.
> >
> > I know SQLite's author. Besides being a nice and clearly very
> > intelligent person, he also holds
On Mon, 2006-09-11 at 13:23 +, David Isaac wrote:
> I have no experience with database applications.
> This database will likely hold only a few hundred items,
> including both textfiles and binary files.
>
> I would like a pure Python solution to the extent reasonable.
Since no one's mention
On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 12:29 -0700, Kay Schluehr wrote:
> Just one stupid remark since the limits of my language are the limits
> of my world: I've not the slightest association with the seemingly
> nonsense word "buzhug" and don't even know how to pronounce it
> correctly. Would you have the kindn
On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 18:05 -0700, Robert Hicks wrote:
> metaperl wrote:
> > Istvan Albert wrote:
> > > metaperl wrote:
> > > > --> python -i
> > > > >>> class = "algebra"
> > > > File "", line 1
> > > > class = "algebra"
> > > > ^
> > > > SyntaxError: invalid syntax
> > >
> > > De
There's been a lot of blogs started in Python, but given the recent
spate of web frameworks, I'm surprised that some blogging package hasn't
taken front seat yet.
I'm currently using Frog, and it's decent, but lacks some fundamental
features (tags for one). Since Irmen is probably going to scrap
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