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Christoph Becker writes:
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> > It's best to remember that ‘lambda’ is syntactic sugar for creating
> > a function; the things it creates are not special in any way, they
> > are normal functions, not “lambdas”.
>
> Could you please ela
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o horrifying mistakes, |
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a bug which should be fixed so “use Unicode for text” remains
applicable advice?
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Devin Jeanpierre writes:
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Ben Finney
> wrote:
> > from __future__ import unicode_literals
>
> Ordinarily, for 2.x/3.3+ code I would suggest not doing this --
> instead, b'...' for bytes, u'...' for unicode, and &#x
Ethan Furman writes:
> On 12/14/2014 11:29 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> > The ‘__import__’ built-in function, though, is tripping up.
>
> One work-around I have used is:
>
> if isinstance(some_var, bytes):
> some_var = some_var.decode('ascii')
> # at t
Ned Batchelder writes:
> On 12/15/14 7:42 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> > As for the advice to avoid such a declaration, you're arguing against
> > the official guide for porting Python 2 code to 2-and-3 compatible code:
> >
> > For text you should eithe
Ethan Furman writes:
> On 12/15/2014 05:36 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> > I'm increasingly of the opinion this is a subtle bug in ‘__import__’
> > that should be fixed instead of worked around.
And other people agree: https://bugs.python.org/issue21720>.
> Of course. But
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immediately, that doesn't remove
the need for a separate build step to go from “tree of files I'm editing
and managing in VCS”, to “tree of files in a different location ready to
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Terry Reedy writes:
> On 12/23/2014 4:25 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> > To be clear: there's nothing about parentheses that produce a
> > generator expression.
>
> Incorrect; parentheses *are* as a part of 'generator expression'.
> From the doc:
> generat
(small!) code examples here to show your working.
Good hunting.
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Steven D'Aprano writes:
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> > The source has a ‘CHANGES.txt’ file which has no entry later than
> > version 0.2a. Why was the later version made, and when will the
> > change log be updated for that?
>
> Ah, I knew I forgot something!
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Rick Johnson writes:
> On Thursday, January 8, 2015 at 7:12:18 PM UTC-6, Ben Finney wrote:
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> > That does not contradict the position that [python packaging] is an
> > ornery beast full of hidden traps and compromises though; it just
> > means that everything that came
rd to learn Spanish. I turned it |
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tils’
already installed (a future ‘python-daemon’ distribution will declare
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I'll be interested to see how Python developers like this.
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Ben Finney writes:
> The idea is to parse from the Changelog the version metadata, and
> record it in Setuptools metadata. Then the ‘pkg_resources’ module of
> Setuptools allows programmatic access to that metadata.
One tricky aspect is: at what specific point should the Changelog be
p
ing beyond the scope of the user guide. There's
nothing wrong with doing that, but you need to recognise the shift and
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Steven D'Aprano writes:
> Ben Finney wrote:
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> > Freedom of expression entails an obligation on the state to not
> > quash anyone's expression. It does not affect anyone who is not the
> > state; it imposes no obligation on the PSF.
>
> By this reasoning,
Steven D'Aprano writes:
> Ben Finney wrote:
>
> > Freedom of expression entails an obligation on the state to not
> > quash anyone's expression. It does not affect anyone who is not the
> > state; it imposes no obligation on the PSF.
>
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which is not an instance of some class. Python objects are always an
instance of some specific class.
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'Foo'”). The error message which inspired this thread needs improvement,
as I've said already.
Let's not dismiss anyone's experience without good reason.
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Devin Jeanpierre writes:
> […] as Ben Finney pointed out. (BTW I agree with literally every
> single thing he said in this thread, it's really amazing.)
Hmm, writing that doesn't annoy somebody is not worth writing [0].
It shouldn't annoy *everyone* though, so I'm
Steven D'Aprano writes:
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> > * In the distant past of Python, some objects were not instances of any
> > class; the terminology in the documentation and messages shows some
> > confusing legacies from that ancient time.
>
>
> I presu
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ownload the code as a “plain text”
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all your code is importable by your unit tests; that way, it's ready for
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x27;s design IMO, and we just
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Ethan Furman writes:
> On 02/06/2015 02:56 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> > It is a deliberate design decision that direct import of a module
> > makes that module blind to its location in the package hierarchy.
> >
> > That's a design decision I deplore, because it ma
Ethan Furman writes:
> On 02/06/2015 04:44 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> > A program will often have enough complexity that its implementation
> > occupies several sub-modules. There's no need to explose those in a
> > site package, they normally only need to be local to t
Distutils API. Try
http://epydoc.sourceforge.net/stdlib/distutils.version.StrictVersion-class.html>.
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think you're propping up a straw man there; the
expectation is quite simple and its absence from SQLite is astonishing.
Your attempted mockery does not, IMO, hit home.
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and it commonly loses data silently. Don't use MySQL.)
But perhaps you don't need concurrency? Only you can tell us.
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database.
But is this what you mean by your requirements not being met by SQLite?
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