On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 16:40:47 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 4:32 PM, Gregory Ewing
> wrote:
>> There are some historical and present-day facts that don't support that
>> idea.
>>
>> * Software existed in the days before it became seen as something to be
>> sold for money p
On 11Jun2018 22:51, Tamara Berger wrote:
On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 7:24:58 PM UTC-4, Gregory Ewing wrote:
Tamara Berger wrote:
> I typed these 2 lines in the terminal:
> 192:~ TamaraB$ sudo python3
python3 -m pip install pytest
You need to enter this *single* line in the Terminal:
su
Gregory Ewing :
> * Charging money for copies of software is not the only way to make
> money from programming. You can charge for support services. You can
> charge for writing custom one-off software. There are people who make
> a good living from doing these things.
Maybe so. It can't be denie
On 11/06/2018 12:16, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 01:44:19 -0700, mohan4h wrote:
Everyone,
I am very new to python. I am trying to achieve the below in it, but i
am unable to find suitable documentation to guide me on the same.
I want to prompt 3 questions together and then get
On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 3:28:29 AM UTC-4, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> On 11Jun2018 22:51, Tamara Berger wrote:
> >On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 7:24:58 PM UTC-4, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> >> Tamara Berger wrote:
> >> > I typed these 2 lines in the terminal:
> >> > 192:~ TamaraB$ sudo python3
> >> >>>
On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 7:24:58 PM UTC-4, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> Tamara Berger wrote:
> > I typed these 2 lines in the terminal:
> >
> > 192:~ TamaraB$ sudo python3
> > ...
> python3 -m pip install pytest
>
> You need to enter this *single* line in the Terminal:
>
> sudo python3 -m
On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 3:28:29 AM UTC-4, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> On 11Jun2018 22:51, Tamara Berger wrote:
> >On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 7:24:58 PM UTC-4, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> >> Tamara Berger wrote:
> >> > I typed these 2 lines in the terminal:
> >> > 192:~ TamaraB$ sudo python3
> >> >>>
On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 7:37:25 PM UTC+8, Bart wrote:
> On 11/06/2018 12:16, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 01:44:19 -0700, mohan4h wrote:
> >
> >> Everyone,
> >>
> >> I am very new to python. I am trying to achieve the below in it, but i
> >> am unable to find suitable docume
On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 3:28:29 AM UTC-4, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> On 11Jun2018 22:51, Tamara Berger wrote:
> >On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 7:24:58 PM UTC-4, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> >> Tamara Berger wrote:
> >> > I typed these 2 lines in the terminal:
> >> > 192:~ TamaraB$ sudo python3
> >> >>>
On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 12:17 AM, T Berger wrote:
>
> Sorry, to bother you again. But is there some way to edit a message once its
> posted? Or do I have to delete it and rewrite it?
Nope. And you can't delete it either.
ChrisA
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Why doesn't the system allow me to set filters for my own posts? I was able to
do it once, but when I returned to the forum, I was back among the unfiltered
posts. When I tried to reapply the filter, the option was grayed out.
Also, I've selected the option to get email updates to my posts, but
On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 10:27:06 AM UTC-4, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 12:17 AM, T Berger wrote:
> >
> > Sorry, to bother you again. But is there some way to edit a message once
> > its posted? Or do I have to delete it and rewrite it?
>
> Nope. And you can't delete it e
On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 3:28:29 AM UTC-4, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> On 11Jun2018 22:51, Tamara Berger wrote:
> >On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 7:24:58 PM UTC-4, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> >> Tamara Berger wrote:
> >> > I typed these 2 lines in the terminal:
> >> > 192:~ TamaraB$ sudo python3
> >> >>>
T Berger on Tue, 12 Jun 2018 07:45:58 -0700 (PDT)
typed in comp.lang.python the following:
>Why doesn't the system allow me to set filters for my own posts? I was able to
>do it once, but when I returned to the forum, I was back among the unfiltered
>posts. When I tried to reapply the filter, t
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
Both may be dependent upon the actual hardware graphics board and
the
drivers for said board.
On 11/06/2018 01:47, Gregory Ewing wrote:
My guess is that if your surface is not fullscreen or is not
a hardware surface, then you're always drawing into an ofscreen
bu
On 2018-06-12, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 12:17 AM, T Berger wrote:
>
>> Sorry, to bother you again. But is there some way to edit a message
>> once its posted? Or do I have to delete it and rewrite it?
>
> Nope. And you can't delete it either.
That depends.
If you're posti
On 2018-06-12, pyotr filipivich wrote:
> It is Google. They will decide what is evil. and not do that.
They've found it simpler to just declare than anything they do is, by
definition, therefore not evil.
--
Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! There's enough money
On 12/06/18 15:45, T Berger wrote:
Why doesn't the system allow me to set filters for my own posts? I was able to
do it once, but when I returned to the forum, I was back among the unfiltered
posts. When I tried to reapply the filter, the option was grayed out.
Also, I've selected the option t
Python 3.7.0rc1 and 3.6.6rc1 are now available. 3.7.0rc1 is the final
planned release preview of Python 3.7, the next feature release of
Python. 3.6.6rc1 is the the release preview of the next maintenance
release of Python 3.6, the current release of Python. Assuming no
critical problems are found
Gregory Ewing wrote:
[...]
> * Charging money for copies of software is not the only way
> to make money from programming. You can charge for support
> services. You can charge for writing custom one-off
> software. There are people who make a good living from
> doing these things.
Microsoft not
Greetings,
I'm doing some refactoring on a fairly large python codebase.
Some of the files are > 4000 lines long and contain many classes.
Should I expect any performance hit from splitting some of the classes out
to other files?
Thanks,
Bill
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Paul St George wrote:
I had considered meddling with the config.txt to try to enable*
HWSURFACE but from what you say, this is unnecessary.
I don't really have much idea what effect HWSURFACE would have,
if any. It will certainly depend a lot on your hardware and
drivers.
My suggestion would b
On 06/12/2018 08:48 AM, T Berger wrote:
> I deleted them a number of time, then got a bar across the page indicating
> that a post had been deleted. It's nuts that you can't edit your own post.
This "forum" is actually a mailing list mirrored to Usenet, so whatever
you post gets instantly emailed
On 12Jun2018 07:48, Tamara Berger wrote:
On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 10:27:06 AM UTC-4, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 12:17 AM, T Berger wrote:
> Sorry, to bother you again. But is there some way to edit a message once
> its posted? Or do I have to delete it and rewrite it?
On 12Jun2018 07:14, Tamara Berger wrote:
On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 3:28:29 AM UTC-4, Cameron Simpson wrote:
On 11Jun2018 22:51, Tamara Berger wrote:
[...]
>192:~ TamaraB$ sudo python3 -m pip install pytest
>Password:
>The directory '/Users/TamaraB/Library/Caches/pip/http' or its parent di
On 12Jun2018 07:51, Tamara Berger wrote:
[... snip ...]
One more thing about PEP8. My workbook is a bit skimpy on details. Is there a
quick way to make the edits
PEP8 is a style recommendation for Python code:
https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/
It is followed pretty rigorously in the
On 12Jun2018 15:00, Bill Deegan wrote:
I'm doing some refactoring on a fairly large python codebase.
Some of the files are > 4000 lines long and contain many classes.
Should I expect any performance hit from splitting some of the classes out
to other files?
In general, nothing significant. Ye
On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 10:32 AM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> I think I'm saying: don't worry unless your applications are very time
> critical (eg invoked very frequently and/or doing almost nothing after the
> "import" phase) or you notice a significant slowdown after your changes. And
> it is usua
Cameron Simpson wrote:
PEP8 is a style recommendation for Python code:
https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/
Specifically, it's a style guide for *code in the Python
standard library*, as it says in the Introduction:
This document gives coding conventions for the Python code comprising
On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 10:46 AM, Gregory Ewing
wrote:
> Cameron Simpson wrote:
>>
>> PEP8 is a style recommendation for Python code:
>>
>> https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/
>
>
> Specifically, it's a style guide for *code in the Python
> standard library*, as it says in the Introduction:
On 11Jun2018 13:48, Subhabrata Banerjee wrote:
I have the following sentence,
"Donald Trump is the president of United States of America".
I am trying to extract the index 'of', not only for single but also
for its multi-occurance (if they occur), from the list of words of the
string, made by
Bill Deegan wrote:
Should I expect any performance hit from splitting some of the classes out
to other files?
I doubt it. Time taken to load modules is mostly dependent on
the total amount of code, not how many files it lives in.
If you had a *very* large number of tiny files, it might be a
bi
On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 15:00:44 -0700, Bill Deegan wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I'm doing some refactoring on a fairly large python codebase. Some of
> the files are > 4000 lines long and contain many classes.
>
> Should I expect any performance hit from splitting some of the classes
> out to other file
On 11Jun2018 18:03, Rick Johnson wrote:
subhaba...@gmail.com wrote:
I have the following sentence,
"Donald Trump is the president of United States of America".
[...]
Typically when you ask us to do your homework for you, it is
considered bad taste to present the teacher's assignment
verbati
Bill Deegan wrote:
> I'm doing some refactoring on a fairly large python
> codebase. Some of the files are > 4000 lines long and
> contain many classes.
I would argue that files of such size are a total pain to
navigate and thus, edit. I prefer to place only one -- or
only a handful of classes --
On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 1:23 PM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
> Bill Deegan wrote:
>> I'm doing some refactoring on a fairly large python
>> codebase. Some of the files are > 4000 lines long and
>> contain many classes.
>
> I would argue that files of such size are a total pain to
> navigate and thus, edit
Hi Cameron,
Thanks for the in-depth answer. I'm going to have to read it
carefully, with the help of a Python glossary. Some of the terms you
use are new to me.
>or am I supposed to root around for my module and make the edits one by one?
I was trying to be amusing and didn't get my point across
On 13Jun2018 13:35, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 1:23 PM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
Bill Deegan wrote:
I'm doing some refactoring on a fairly large python
codebase. Some of the files are > 4000 lines long and
contain many classes.
I would argue that files of such size are a total
On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 6:30:45 AM UTC+5:30, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> On 11Jun2018 13:48, Subhabrata Banerjee wrote:
> >I have the following sentence,
> >
> >"Donald Trump is the president of United States of America".
> >
> >I am trying to extract the index 'of', not only for single but als
On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 10:35:47 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
[...]
> A few thousand lines in a file is only a problem if you're
> using an editor that lacks a Find feature. Or if you use
> bad function/class names that you can't search for.
I'm unaware of any text editor that doesn't have
On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 2:15 PM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 10:35:47 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
> [...]
>> A few thousand lines in a file is only a problem if you're
>> using an editor that lacks a Find feature. Or if you use
>> bad function/class names that you can't
On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 7:57 PM Cameron Simpson wrote:
>
> On 12Jun2018 07:14, Tamara Berger wrote:
> >Just one more thing, Cameron. I was looking at an Apple support page, and it
> >says "When you're logged in to your Mac using an administrator account, you
> >can use the sudo command in the
On 13Jun2018 00:05, Tamara Berger wrote:
Thanks for the in-depth answer. I'm going to have to read it
carefully, with the help of a Python glossary. Some of the terms you
use are new to me.
No worries. Just ask if you don't find definitions.
BTW, a "lint" program, or "linter" is a program for
On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 7:50 PM Cameron Simpson wrote:
>
> On 12Jun2018 07:48, Tamara Berger wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 12:17 AM, T Berger wrote:
> >> > Sorry, to bother you again. But is there some way to edit a message once
> >> > its posted? Or do I have to delete it and rewrite
On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 2:41 PM, Tamara Berger wrote:
> I just meant edit within the moment or two after you've posted a
> message. I think a good feature in this forum would allow posters to
> edit their messages in just that way. I have such a feature enabled in
> gmail. I can "undo" my action
On 13Jun2018 00:41, Tamara Berger wrote:
I just meant edit within the moment or two after you've posted a
message. I think a good feature in this forum would allow posters to
edit their messages in just that way. I have such a feature enabled in
gmail. I can "undo" my action for 30 seconds afte
Jach Fong writes:
> ...
> 4.7.4. Unpacking Argument Lists
> The reverse situation occurs when the arguments are already in a list or
> tuple but need to be unpacked for a function call requiring separate
> positional arguments.
> ...
args = [3, 6]
list(range(*args))
> """
>
> I can't
On 13Jun2018 00:29, Tamara Berger wrote:
On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 7:57 PM Cameron Simpson wrote:
On 12Jun2018 07:14, Tamara Berger wrote:
>Just one more thing, Cameron. I was looking at an Apple support page, and it says
"When you're logged in to your Mac using an administrator account, yo
On 12Jun2018 21:06, Subhabrata Banerjee wrote:
Dear Sir,
Thank you for your kind reply. I am trying in few days time and getting back.
I made a small fix of my own and I would discuss it, too. Thank you for your
kind words, but I ignore unnecessary remarks. So please do not worry.
Meanwhile,
Bill Deegan writes:
> I'm doing some refactoring on a fairly large python codebase.
> Some of the files are > 4000 lines long and contain many classes.
I am typically working with systems consisting of hundreds of
modules (Zope/Plone). Such large systems have a significant
impact on startup time
Chris Angelico wrote:
A few thousand lines in a file is only a problem if you're using an
editor that lacks a Find feature.
My editor has a find feature, but I still find it a nuisance
to have to use it every single time I want to find something.
--
Greg
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Tamara Berger wrote:
Live means live. It is not a word I created. It means that the link
has been activated, so clicking on it will take you to the associated
page.
Okay, I think "clickable" is a better word to describe this.
Most mail reading software these days automatically recognises
thing
On 2018-06-11 12:24:54 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 12:31:09 +0200, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> > On 2018-06-11 01:06:37 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> >> On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 23:57:35 +0200, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> >
> > [Note: I was talking about os.stat here, not os.path.ex
On 13Jun2018 17:53, Greg Ewing wrote:
Chris Angelico wrote:
A few thousand lines in a file is only a problem if you're using an
editor that lacks a Find feature.
My editor has a find feature, but I still find it a nuisance
to have to use it every single time I want to find something.
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