On Sat, 09 Oct 2010 21:00:45 -0700, chad wrote:
> Maybe I'm being a bit dense, but how something like
>
> [cdal...@localhost oakland]$ python
> Python 2.6.2 (r262:71600, May 3 2009, 17:04:44) [GCC 4.1.1 20061011
> (Red Hat 4.1.1-30)] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or
> "license" f
On Oct 9, 10:30 pm, John Nagle wrote:
> Here's an obscure bit of Python semantics which
> is close to being a bug:
>
> >>> class t(object) :
> ... classvar = 1
> ...
> ... def fn1(self) :
> ... print("fn1: classvar = %d" % (self.classvar,))
> ... self.classvar = 2
> ..
In message <4cb14f8c$0$1627$742ec...@news.sonic.net>, John Nagle wrote:
> Within "fn1", the first reference to "self.classvar" references the class-
> level version of "classvar". The assignment overrides that and creates an
> object-level instance of "self.classvar". Further references to
> self
In message
<45368e8d-3b4f-4380-974d-bf9cd5d68...@w9g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,
NevilleDNZ wrote:
> I do ponder why (given that linked lists can easily be created in Algol68)
> useful types like LIST and DICT were left out of the standard prelude.
I guess a list type wasn’t seen as primitive enou
On 2:59 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
In message, Dennis
Lee Bieber wrote:
On Windows, the I/O system for text files converts into a
on input, and on output converts to.
Is it Windows doing that, or is it some Visual Studio library?
Windows OS itself does not transform any newlines at
Steven D'Aprano writes:
> On Sat, 09 Oct 2010 21:39:51 +0100, Arnaud Delobelle wrote:
>
>> 1. hash() is an idempotent function, i.e. hash(hash(x)) == hash(x) hold
>> for any hashable x (this is a simple consequence of the fact that
>> hash(x) == x for any int x (by 'int' I mean 2.X int)).
>
> It'
Sean McAfee writes:
> Xah Lee writes:
>> Perl's exceedingly lousy unicode support hack is well known. In fact
>> it is the primary reason i “switched” to python for my scripting needs
>> in 2005. (See: Unicode in Perl and Python)
>
> I think your assessment is antiquated. I've been doing Unicod
Steven D'Aprano writes:
> On Sat, 09 Oct 2010 21:39:51 +0100, Arnaud Delobelle wrote:
>
>> 1. hash() is an idempotent function, i.e. hash(hash(x)) == hash(x) hold
>> for any hashable x (this is a simple consequence of the fact that
>> hash(x) == x for any int x (by 'int' I mean 2.X int)).
>
> It'
On 10/01/10 00:24, TheFlyingDutchman wrote:
>
>>
>>> If I had to choose between "blow up" or "invalid answer" I would pick
>>> "invalid answer".
>>
>> there are some application domains where neither option would be
>> viewed as a satisfactory error handling strategy. Fly-by-wire, petro-
>> chemic
On Sat, 09 Oct 2010 15:45:42 -0700, Sean McAfee wrote:
>> I'll have to say, as far as text processing goes, the most beautiful
>> lang with respect to unicode is emacs lisp. In elisp code (e.g.
>> Generate a Web Links Report with Emacs Lisp ), i don't have to declare
>> none of the unicode or enco
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:34:02 +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
[unnecessary quoting removed]
> Your headers state:
>
> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (darwin)
Please stop spamming multiple newsgroups. I'm sure this is of great
interest to the Emacs newsgroup, but not of Python.
Followu
On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 18:02:15 +0200, Jonas H. wrote:
> On 10/08/2010 05:23 PM, Carolyn MacLeod wrote:
>> "How do I pass an integer by reference to a C function?"
>
> That's impossible in pure Python. The only thing I can think of is a
> wrapper in C.
I didn't see the original message, but if you
On 10/02/10 20:04, Nick Keighley wrote:
>>> > > In a statically typed language, the of-the-wrong-type is something which
>>> > > can, by definition, be caught at compile time.
>> >
>> > Any time something is true "by definition" that is an indication that
>> > it's not a particularly useful fact.
>
On 10/05/10 14:36, salil wrote:
> So, the programmer who
> specifically mentions "Int" in the signature of the function, is
> basically overriding this default behavior for specific reasons
> relevant to the application, for example, for performance. I think
> Haskell's way is the right.
I agree
In article <4cb14f8c$0$1627$742ec...@news.sonic.net>
John Nagle wrote:
>Here's an obscure bit of Python semantics which
>is close to being a bug:
[assigning to instance of class creates an attribute within
the instance, thus obscuring the class-level version of the
attribute]
This is sort o
On 10/01/10 23:56, BartC wrote:
>
> "Pascal J. Bourguignon" wrote in message
> news:87zkuyjawh@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com...
>> "BartC" writes:
>>
>>> "Pascal J. Bourguignon" wrote in message
>
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>>>
>>> Which one?
>>
>> Any
I found an interesting project, it's a single 4.7 MB executable with
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But when compiling following the instructions
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there is an error
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frozen.c'. St
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On Fri, 2010-10-08, harryos wrote:
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In <87hbgu8irb@gmail.com> Arnaud Delobelle writes:
>Steven D'Aprano writes:
>> On Sat, 09 Oct 2010 21:39:51 +0100, Arnaud Delobelle wrote:
>>
>>> 1. hash() is an idempotent function, i.e. hash(hash(x)) == hash(x) hold
>>> for any hashable x (this is a simple consequence of the fact that
>>>
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:06:00 +0100, Arnaud Delobelle wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano writes:
>
>> On Sat, 09 Oct 2010 21:39:51 +0100, Arnaud Delobelle wrote:
>>
>>> 1. hash() is an idempotent function, i.e. hash(hash(x)) == hash(x)
>>> hold for any hashable x (this is a simple consequence of the fact t
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 13:49:09 +, kj wrote:
>>> to give only two of an infinite number of counter-examples.
>
> (Infinite???)
I was mistaken. Given Arnaud's specification that we look only at the
Python 2.x ints, I believe that there is only one counter-example, namely
-1.
However, in Pytho
kj writes:
> In <87hbgu8irb@gmail.com> Arnaud Delobelle writes:
[...]
>>And, in fact,
>>(-1) is the only int such that hash(x) != x.
>
> Arnaud, how did you determine that -1 is the only such int? I
> can't imagine any other approach other than a brute-force check of
> all ints... When I
Arnaud Delobelle writes:
> I have learnt too that hash(-1) is not (-1), and that it seems that a
> hash value is not allowed to be (-1). There is one thing left to find
> out. Why can't it be (-1)?
Because -1 has a special meaning in the C function equivalent to
Python's hash(). PyObject_Hash
Hello everybody i am trying to encode a file string of an upload file and i
am facing some problems with the first part of the file. When i open
directly and try to decode the file the error is this:
`UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf8' codec can't decode byte 0xff in position 0:
unexpected code byt
On Sat, 09 Oct 2010 19:30:16 -0700, Ethan Furman wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano wrote:
[snip]
>> But that doesn't mean that the list comp is the general purpose solution.
>> Consider the obvious use of the idiom:
>>
>> def func(arg, count):
>> # Initialise the list.
>> L = [arg for i in range(
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 10:25 AM, wrote:
> Hello everybody i am trying to encode a file string of an upload file and i
> am facing some problems with the first part of the file. When i open
> directly and try to decode the file the error is this: `UnicodeDecodeError:
> 'utf8' codec can't decode b
On 10/10/2010 12:53 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
In message<4cb14f8c$0$1627$742ec...@news.sonic.net>, John Nagle wrote:
Within "fn1", the first reference to "self.classvar" references the class-
level version of "classvar". The assignment overrides that and creates an
object-level instance o
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 21:38:11 +1100, Lie Ryan wrote:
>
> Virtual Machine in Hardware... isn't that a contradiction?
>
Nope. Several mainframes did that.
Two that I knew well were both British - the ICL 1900 and 2900. The
Burroughs x700 series also used hardware virtualisation. Both Burroughs
a
Hi,
please tell us what you are trying to do. Encoding (with UTF-8) is a method
to convert a Unicode string to a sequence of bytes. Decoding does the
reverse.
When i open
> directly and try to decode the file the error is this: `UnicodeDecodeError:
> 'utf8' codec can't decode byte 0xff in positi
In <4cb1dc9a$0$29970$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com> Steven D'Aprano
writes:
>Reading the source code is also a good approach.
Every time I have attempted to answer a question by looking at the
Python C source, all I've achieved was wasting time, sometimes a
*lot* of time, so by now I've de
I try to encode a binary file what was upload to a server and is
extract from the wsgi.input of the environ and comes as an unicode
string.
2010/10/10, Almar Klein :
> Hi,
>
> please tell us what you are trying to do. Encoding (with UTF-8) is a method
> to convert a Unicode string to a sequence of
|>>> '\x80'.decode('cp936')
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in
UnicodeDecodeError: 'gbk' codec can't decode byte 0x80
in position 0: incomplete multibyte sequence
However:
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In article <4c8b8123.80...@sschwarzer.net>,
Stefan Schwarzer wrote:
>
>Which approach would you prefer and why? Or some other approach? Would
>you use a different approach if the library-internal class was named
>`_FTPFile` instead of `FTPFile`?
If it's not a public class, it should have been na
On Oct 10, 6:54 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message
> ,
>
> tinauser wrote:
> > now,the file will be opened only if i give the full path, not if i
> > give only the name of the file, although the folder is in the path.
> > what am I missing?
>
> The fact that sys.path is not used for that.
On Oct 9, 11:39 am, Johny wrote:
> Is it possible to control any webbrowser from Python ? For example to
> issue http POST and GET command
> Thanks
> Johny
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On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 5:29 PM, tinauser wrote:
> On Oct 10, 6:54 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro central.gen.new_zealand> wrote:
>> In message
>> ,
>>
>> tinauser wrote:
>> > now,the file will be opened only if i give the full path, not if i
>> > give only the name of the file, although the folder is i
Hello all:
I have a need to read .msg files exported from Outlook. Google search
came out with a few very old posts about the topic but nothing really
useful. The email module in Python is no help - everything comes back
blank and it can't even see if there are attachments. Did find a Java
libr
On 10/10/2010 3:07 PM, John Nagle wrote:
I understand how the current semantics fall out of the obvious
implementation. But I don't see those semantics as particularly
desirable. The obvious semantics for globals are similar, but
that case is so error-prone that it was made an error.
Nicely st
Antoon Pardon writes:
> Personaly I don't see a reason to declare in advance that someone
> who wants to treat "True" differently from non-zero numbers or
> non-empty sequences and does so by a test like:
>
> if var == Trueorif var is True
>
> to have written incorrect code.
I wouldn't
On Oct 10, 7:48 am, flebber wrote:
> On Oct 9, 3:54 pm, flebber wrote:
>
> > I was hoping someone knew how to setup pyscripter or Spe ide's with
> > light on dark windows. I start to have trouble reading the nomal dark
> > on light screens after any lengthy period.
>
> > I have seen several scree
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:14:33 -0400, John Posner wrote:
> Class attributes are often used as "class constants", so how about
> naming them with UPPERCASE names, like other constants? When you choose
> to override one of these constants, like this:
>
> self.EGGS = 4
Er what?
If self.EGGS is m
On Oct 10, 6:02 pm, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> As for DICT, I think table lookups were still a sufficiently novel concept
> for people to disagree on how they should best be implemented.
I then stumbled over this paper:
Title: List processing in Algol 68 - V. J. Rayward-Smith
International Jour
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I am working on a class project that requires us to use python. I have never
used python before so be gentle. My question is I have python 2.5 installed
on my pc. The instructions as me to run pythonwin but I can't find
pythonwin. What I did find is IDLE(GUI). Any suggestions where I can find
i
On 11/10/2010 11:24 AM, HP Garcia wrote:
I am working on a class project that requires us to use python. I have
never used python before so be gentle. My question is I have python 2.5
installed on my pc. The instructions as me to run pythonwin but I can't
find pythonwin. What I did find is IDLE(G
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 8:24 PM, HP Garcia wrote:
> I am working on a class project that requires us to use python. I have never
> used python before so be gentle. My question is I have python 2.5 installed
> on my pc. The instructions as me to run pythonwin but I can't find
> pythonwin. What I di
On 11/10/2010 01:24, HP Garcia wrote:
I am working on a class project that requires us to use python. I have
never used python before so be gentle. My question is I have python 2.5
installed on my pc. The instructions as me to run pythonwin but I can't
find pythonwin. What I did find is IDLE(GUI)
On 2:59 PM, Lie Ryan wrote:
On 10/01/10 23:56, BartC wrote:
"Pascal J. Bourguignon" wrote in message
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"BartC" writes:
"Pascal J. Bourguignon" wrote in message
When Intel will realize that 99% of its users are running VM
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In message <4cb23ac9.70...@optimum.net>, John Posner wrote:
> Since it's unlikely that the language will change ...
Python 4000, anybody? :)
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In message
,
NevilleDNZ wrote:
> Not having LIST and DICT as part of the base language would make sense
> if user contributions were encouraged.
Unfortunately, they neglected to include any kind of module/package system
to make this kind of thing easy to do.
But then again, the state of the ar
Peter Pearson wrote:
On Sat, 09 Oct 2010 19:30:16 -0700, Ethan Furman wrote:
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
[snip]
But that doesn't mean that the list comp is the general purpose solution.
Consider the obvious use of the idiom:
def func(arg, count):
# Initialise the list.
L = [arg for i in
In message
, John
Henry wrote:
> I have a need to read .msg files exported from Outlook.
Try using EML format instead. That’s plain text.
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On Oct 10, 7:40 pm, est wrote:
> I found an interesting project, it's a single 4.7 MB executable with
> stdlib+PIL+pdf r/w+magpy+wxpython environment
>
> But when compiling following the instructions
>
> http://www.xpython.org/#compiling
>
> there is an error
>
> make: *** No rule to make target `
John Nagle wrote:
On 10/10/2010 12:53 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
In message<4cb14f8c$0$1627$742ec...@news.sonic.net>, John Nagle wrote:
Within "fn1", the first reference to "self.classvar" references the
class-
level version of "classvar". The assignment overrides that and
creates an
o
On Oct 10, 8:27 pm, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message
> , John
>
> Henry wrote:
> > I have a need to read .msg files exported from Outlook.
>
> Try using EML format instead. That’s plain text.
Thanks for the reply. I would have to check to see if my client's
Outlook can export in EML forma
Martin Gregorie wrote:
+---
| Lie Ryan wrote:
| > Virtual Machine in Hardware... isn't that a contradiction?
|
| Nope. Several mainframes did that.
|
| Two that I knew well were both British - the ICL 1900 and 2900.
| The Burroughs x700 series also used hardware virtualisation.
+---
I've read the part about these being variable
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
In message , Ethan
Furman wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
But they can only recognize it as a BOM if they assume UTF-8 encoding to
begin with. Otherwise it could be interpreted as some other coding.
Not so. The first three bytes are the flag.
But this is
On Oct 10, 11:44 pm, Benjamin Kaplan wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 5:29 PM, tinauser wrote:
> > On Oct 10, 6:54 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro > central.gen.new_zealand> wrote:
> >> In message
> >> ,
>
> >> tinauser wrote:
> >> > now,the file will be opened only if i give the full path, not if i
> >
here is my code and two questions :
why it says to me that i can't bind the socket ?
normally it had closed it and kill it :/
and why it returns me plain text and not html ?
Regards and a pack of m&m's to the one who will help me on this two
questions.
import socket
import sys
# Create a TCP/IP
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
It seems to me the same principle, that of disallowing implicit overriding
of a name from an outer scope with that from an inner one after the former
has already been referenced, should be applied here as well.
How would you intend to enforce such a restriction?
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