instances

2006-07-14 Thread Quenton Bonds
Hello I am trying to understand the abilities and limitation of creating an instance. First I will give you my understanding then please steer me in the right direction. Abiities 1. The two ways to create an instance is def method(self) & __int__(self, other, instances,...) 2. By creating a

Re: activestate vs enpython

2006-07-14 Thread Robert Hicks
mclaugb wrote: > Um, i didnt see at the "more information" link whether "numpy, > numarray, matplotlib, scipy, and scientific python" was included . > There's your answer... :Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: EuroPython 2006 and Py3.0

2006-07-14 Thread Lawrence Oluyede
Antoon Pardon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a tree class, a tree acts like a dictionary, but when you > iterate over it, it always iterates over the keys in order. This > makes it usefull to iterate over a slice. So it would be usefull > if methods like keys, values and items could take a sl

Re: EuroPython 2006 and Py3.0

2006-07-14 Thread Lawrence Oluyede
A.M. Kuchling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If Python 3000 turns into a let's-try-all-sorts-of-goofy-new-ideas > language, at least some of those ideas will turn out to have been > mistakes, and then we'll need a Python 3000++ to clean things up. And I also think "we" will lose some developers in

Re: EuroPython 2006 and Py3.0

2006-07-14 Thread Nick Vatamaniuc
That is why we have PEPs and people who read forums and, of course, GvR. At this point it seems that Python is mainstream enough that it probably shouldn't be modified too much but it is also 'fresh' enough to accept some modifications and new ideas. The bottom line is that the more people are in

dict = no ordered keys = no slicing

2006-07-14 Thread Nick Vatamaniuc
>I have a tree class, a tree acts like a dictionary, but when you > iterate over it, it always iterates over the keys in order. Antoon, First of all there is a distinction between ordered and un-ordered data types. You can only slice ordered data types. Lists and tuples are ordered while the keys

Re: instances

2006-07-14 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Quenton Bonds wrote: > I am trying to understand the abilities and limitation of creating an > instance. First I will give you my understanding then please steer me > in the right direction. > > Abiities > 1. The two ways to create an instance is def method(self) & > __int__(self, other, ins

Re: Python WSDL Generation Tools

2006-07-14 Thread Chris Lambacher
You will probably have more result on the pywebsvcs-talk mailing list. http://pywebsvcs.sf.net/ That said, ZSI will generate code from wsdl. I am not sure what it is you are asking for, but this is probably what you actually want. -Chris On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 11:15:45AM +0530, Vedanta Barooa

Re: Python for Embedded Systems?

2006-07-14 Thread James Thiele
Jack wrote: > ...snip... > If Python is not the best candidate for embedded systems because > of the size, what (scripting) language would you recommend? > TCL is fairly popular in the embedded space. Fairly small footprint. The syntax is not to everyone's taste. -- http://mail.python.org/mailma

Re: Python for Embedded Systems?

2006-07-14 Thread gregarican
Here's an URL to a project that appears to be dated from 2004 --> http://skreak.com/wrt54g/python.php. Jack wrote: > Is there a Python packaging that is specifically for > embedded systems? ie, very small and configurable so the > user gets to select what modules to install? > > For Linux-based em

Re: Python for Embedded Systems?

2006-07-14 Thread Grzegorz Makarewicz
Jack wrote: > Is there a Python packaging that is specifically for > embedded systems? ie, very small and configurable so the > user gets to select what modules to install? > > For Linux-based embedded systems in particular? > > I'm thinking of running it on the Linksys's Linux-based open > source

Re: instances

2006-07-14 Thread Paddy
Quenton Bonds wrote: > Hello > I am trying to understand the abilities and limitation of creating an > instance. First I will give you my understanding then please steer me > in the right direction. > > Abiities > 1. The two ways to create an instance is def method(self) & > __int__(self, other,

Re: Python for Embedded Systems?

2006-07-14 Thread gregarican
Or Python on the Zaurus, which I used to develop a wifi CRM app on a group of refurb Sharp Zaurus SL-5500 units. Here's a link to the Python implementation on the Z --> http://starship.python.net/~hinsen/Zaurus/. Grzegorz Makarewicz wrote: > Jack wrote: > > Is there a Python packaging that is spec

Re: Byte array question

2006-07-14 Thread Dan Winsor
Nevermind. Did it in Java. Thanks anyway to all who gave suggestions. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: instances

2006-07-14 Thread Simon Forman
Quenton Bonds wrote: > Hello > I am trying to understand the abilities and limitation of creating an > instance. First I will give you my understanding then please steer me > in the right direction. > Wow, you've got it nearly completely comprehensively backwards. > Abiities > 1. The two ways t

Re: instances

2006-07-14 Thread Nick Vatamaniuc
Quenton, What kind of instances do you want to create? An instance has to be an instance of something. You mention creating instances "of a method", what do you mean by that? Anyway, assuming you are new to Python here is a basic intro about objects and classes: Think of a class as a blueprint an

Re: Augument assignment versus regular assignment

2006-07-14 Thread Piet van Oostrum
> Antoon Pardon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (AP) wrote: >AP> Well I'll start on an possitive note and accept this. Now I'd like you >AP> to answer some questions. >AP> 1) Do you think the langauge reference makes it clear that this is how >AP>the reader has to understand things. Yes. >AP> 2a) I

Re: How to start more than one process at the same time?

2006-07-14 Thread Piet van Oostrum
> "Dirk Hagemann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (DH) wrote: >DH> Hi! >DH> How can I start several jobs at the same time with python? I want to >DH> collect data from some servers and I don't want to wait until the first >DH> server is finished. These jobs should run parallel to save time. Use the subpr

Re: What is a type error?

2006-07-14 Thread Joe Marshall
Marshall wrote: > Joe Marshall wrote: > > Marshall wrote: > > > > > > Consider the following Java fragment: > > > > > > void foo() { > > > int i = 0; > > > int j = 0; > > > > > > // put any code here you want > > > > > > j = 1; > > > i = 2; > > > // check value of j here. It is still 1

Re: {} for set notation

2006-07-14 Thread Carl Banks
tac-tics wrote: > Nick Vatamaniuc wrote: > > I really like the set notation idea. Now that sets are first class > > "citizens" along with dicts, lists and tuples I think they should be > > used when it makes sense to use them > > In actual usage, though, how often is it strictly required one uses a

When writing text. . .

2006-07-14 Thread Ivan Shevanski
Hey I'm pretty new to python and I have a question.  I'm trying to write:"[BOOT]run=C:\windows\aawin.bat"in my win.iniSo I went about it like this:win = open('C:\windows\win.ini', 'a') win.write('[BOOT]')win.write('\n')win.write('run=C:\windows\aawin.bat')I expected that to work, but instead of C:\

Re: wxPython Grid XY Coordinates question

2006-07-14 Thread Will McGugan
Kiran wrote: > Hello All, > I am writing an app in wxPython using a grid. I need to be able to > recognize what cell in the grid the user is hovering over with the > mouse. How to do this? > I tried XYToCell(x, y), but that doesnt work properly because it > thinks that mouse position (0, 0) i

Re: What is a type error?

2006-07-14 Thread Joachim Durchholz
Marshall schrieb: > Joachim Durchholz wrote: >> Marshall schrieb: >>> What about my example of SQL? Mutation, no pointers, no aliasing. >>> Yet: useful. >> Sorry, but SQL does have aliasing. > > Well. I suppose we do not have an agreed upon definition > of aliasing, so it is hard to evaluate eithe

Re: Python strings outside the 128 range

2006-07-14 Thread Gerhard Fiedler
On 2006-07-14 12:07:12, Fredrik Lundh wrote: > umm. what are we talking about here, really ? Aha! You took a big load off my chest -- this is pretty much what I thought should be there :) What I was talking about is that Diez responded with a clear "no" to my question whether print would do the

Re: What is a type error?

2006-07-14 Thread Joachim Durchholz
Marshall schrieb: > Joachim Durchholz wrote: >> You can have aliasing without pointers; e.g. arrays are fully sufficient. >> If i = j, then a [i] and a [j] are aliases of the same object. > > I am having a hard time with this very broad definition of aliasing. > Would we also say that a[1+1] and a

Hard time with installing MySQLdb for Python on Linux

2006-07-14 Thread gmax2006
Hi, I am having hard time with installing MySQLdb on Linux. My Python version is 2.3. I have downloaded "MySQL-python-1.2.1_p2.tar.gz" from sourceforge. The README file asks for MySQL installation. My MySql server is on another box. That is why I think I should to install just the MySql client (a

Re: Augument assignment versus regular assignment

2006-07-14 Thread Gerhard Fiedler
On 2006-07-14 16:07:28, Piet van Oostrum wrote: >>AP> 2a) In case you answer yes to question (1). Can you explain me how >>AP> I have to read the language reference in order to deduce this >>AP> is indeed the way things should be understood. > > Just read what it says. `It is only evaluat

Re: When writing text. . .

2006-07-14 Thread Daniel Nogradi
> Hey I'm pretty new to python and I have a question. I'm trying to write: > "[BOOT] > run=C:\windows\aawin.bat" > > in my win.ini > So I went about it like this: > > win = open('C:\windows\win.ini', 'a') > win.write('[BOOT]') > win.write('\n') > win.write('run=C:\windows\aawin.bat') > > I expecte

Deferred imports

2006-07-14 Thread Tom Plunket
I'm using this package that I can't import on startup, instead needing to wait until some initialization takes place so I can set other things up so that I can subsequently import the package and have the "startup needs" of that package met. Specifically this has to do with the interaction between

Re: String handling and the percent operator

2006-07-14 Thread Tom Plunket
Justin Azoff wrote: > Of course.. > > I should read the python documentation at > http://docs.python.org/lib/typesseq-strings.html Excellent. Thanks. Has this been around long? I "learned" Python in the 1.6 days iirc, but haven't done much except simple scripting with it since... -tom! -- h

Re: String handling and the percent operator

2006-07-14 Thread Erik Max Francis
Tom Plunket wrote: > Excellent. Thanks. Has this been around long? I "learned" Python in > the 1.6 days iirc, but haven't done much except simple scripting with > it since... Yep. Been around since at least 1.5.x. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San

Re: String handling and the percent operator

2006-07-14 Thread Tom Plunket
Erik Max Francis wrote: > > For enrichment purposes, is there a way to do this sort of thing with > > a generator? E.g. something like: > > > > def SentenceGenerator(): > >words = ['I', 'have', 'been', 'to', 'the', 'fair'] > >for w in words: > > yield w > > > > message = "%s %s %

Re: String handling and the percent operator

2006-07-14 Thread Erik Max Francis
Tom Plunket wrote: > I know that the message didn't have enough formatters, that's why I > asked. (Although I would have assumed that the generator would get > automatically converted to a sequence that was consumable by the > interpolation operator...) That's because:: aFormatString %

WSDL and SOAP?

2006-07-14 Thread tobiah
I need to link an event registration site to a housing site. From what I can gather, I make a call to some url that ends in WSDL, and get some XML back from the housing site. Now I'm supposed to make this into an object and call it here and there through SOAP? Is that how it works? Is this

Python on RedHat AS 2.1?

2006-07-14 Thread Jeremy Winters
Installable package?Any ideas?Thanks in advance,Jeremy Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: When writing text. . .

2006-07-14 Thread barberomarcelo
Or: win.write(r'run=C:\windows\aawin.bat') The r before the string makes it a "raw" string, where \ are not interpreted as escape characters. Marcelo Daniel Nogradi ha escrito: > > Hey I'm pretty new to python and I have a question. I'm trying to write: > > "[BOOT] > > run=C:\windows\aawin.ba

Re: What is a type error?

2006-07-14 Thread Chris Smith
Marshall wrote... > I am having a hard time with this very broad definition of aliasing. > Would we also say that a[1+1] and a[2] are aliases? It seems > to me, above, that we have only a, and with only one variable > there can be no aliasing. The problem with this (and with the relational one as

math symbols not displaying

2006-07-14 Thread Andrew Dabrowski
I'm working on a simple Python program, with Tkinter, and I need to display the math symbols for set union and intersection, in unicode \N{N-ARY UNION} and \N{N-ARY INTERSECTION}. Everything was displaying correctly (when I ran the program) until I changed my OS distribution from SuSE to Ubuntu

Re: When writing text. . .

2006-07-14 Thread Gerhard Fiedler
On 2006-07-14 18:05:56, Ivan Shevanski wrote: > Hey I'm pretty new to python and I have a question. I'm trying to write: > "[BOOT] > run=C:\windows\aawin.bat" > > in my win.ini > So I went about it like this: > > win = open('C:\windows\win.ini', 'a') > win.write('[BOOT]') > win.write('\n') > wi

Re: Deferred imports

2006-07-14 Thread Justin Azoff
Tom Plunket wrote: > I'm using this package that I can't import on startup, instead needing > to wait until some initialization takes place so I can set other > things up so that I can subsequently import the package and have the > "startup needs" of that package met. [...] > So as y'all might gues

Getting focused window of another app

2006-07-14 Thread Jim Lewis
Anyone know how to get the caption of the window currently in focus in whatever app is in use? If I am using Excel, for example, I want my python app to know that Excel is currently being used. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

ANN: Urwid 0.9.5 - Console UI Library

2006-07-14 Thread Ian Ward
Announcing Urwid 0.9.5 -- Urwid home page: http://excess.org/urwid/ Tarball: http://excess.org/urwid/urwid-0.9.5.tar.gz About this release: === This release adds support for the alternate character set with DEC special and line drawing characters. Ur

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Re: Augument assignment versus regular assignment

2006-07-14 Thread Terry Reedy
The problem with understanding augmented assignment is that it directs the compiler and interpreter to do one or maybe two mostly invisible optimizations. To me, the effective meaning of 'evalutating once versus twice' is most easily seen in the byte code generated by what is, remember, the r

InteractiveConsole History on Linux

2006-07-14 Thread Chris Spencer
Why does code.InteractiveConsole support command history on Windows, but not in a Gnome terminal (all I get is ^[[A^[[B)? Or does it not support history at all, and the Windows console is implementing it's own? Is there any way to get command history working with InteractiveConsole on Linux? C

Re: Compiling Python using the Portland Group compiler

2006-07-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Konrad Hinsen wrote: > I am trying to install Python 2.4.3 on an AMD Opteron system using > the Portland Group's compiler (pgcc). Using > > I finally managed to obtain an executable that would start and work, > but it fails a couple of test cases: ... > Has anyone encountered such failures before?

Re: Hard time with installing MySQLdb for Python on Linux

2006-07-14 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "gmax2006" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I am having hard time with installing MySQLdb on Linux. ... >My Linux is "Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant)" Why don't you just use yum to install python-mysql or whatever the package is called, and have it au

Re: printing raw postscript data on windows

2006-07-14 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Uwe Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I am trying to print raw postscript data on windows. >win32print should do the work like this: > > h=win32print.OpenPrinter(name) > win32print.StartDocPrinter(h, 1, ("", "", "RAW")) > win32print.WritePrinter(h, file("p.

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