On 2005-10-26, Tim Golden wrote:
> [Sybren Stuvel]
>
> Tim Golden enlightened us with:
>> > Well, I'm with you. I'm sure a lot of people will chime in to point
>> > out just how flexible and useful and productive Linux is as a
>> > workstation, but every time I try to use it -- and I make an honest
On Wednesday 26 October 2005 07:20, Tim Golden wrote:
> I'm sure you're right: given moderately naive users, a Windows box
> is *extremely* likely to be zombified. It's just that it doesn't
> have to be that way with the proper care and attention.
With $200 dollars of antivirus software (on top of
Tim Golden enlightened us with:
> Well, fair enough. Although I don't think that on its own this
> constitutes "rubbish".
True - it's just one of the reasons that shift its status toward
rubishness ;-)
> Not quite sure what this means. As in ANSI support? (Perfectly true
> - definitely lacking th
Thomas Heller wrote:
> FYI, if you don't know this already: You also can resize the console without
> going through the properties menu with 'mode con cols=... lines=...'.
Good grief! I haven't used "mode con" in years; forgotten
it even existed! Thanks for bringing that back, Thomas.
TJG
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> Thanks to both of you. But that much I already knew. It's not
> that I have *no* knowledge about readline: I did at least
> read the manuals when I got stuck! But as far as I can tell
> from my experience and from the docs -- and I'm not near a
> Linux box at the mo -- having used ctrl-r to reca
Tim> I am quite well aware of all of the ways you mention of recalling
Tim> history etc. etc. When I've tried using them, they all seem
Tim> tiresomely cumbersome ...
That's not at all surprising (at least not to me). An important point to
realize is that readline's command recall is
[Giovanni Dall'Olio]
Tim Golden ha scritto:
[... bash vs Win command-line ...]
> Argh!! ;)
> How about reading a simple tutorial on bash?
[... snip signs of aggravation over my ignorance ...]
I am quite well aware of all of the ways you mention
of recalling history etc. etc. When I've tried usi
"Tim Golden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [Sybren Stuvel]
>> You can't resize it horizontally
>
> Well, peculiarly, you can do this (as you're probably aware) from
> the Properties menu and it'll work immediately, albeit without
> advising the running programs that it's resized, so only new
> li
[Tim Golden]
> Just occasionally you read posts from people who say (synthesised)
> "The Windows command line is rubbish",
[Sybren Stuvel]
> It is. Let me give an example. I have the following files:
[.. snip example of finding .somefile when you type som ..]
Well, fair enough. Although I don't
Tim Golden enlightened us with:
> Well yes. I think the (only slightly) wider point I was making was
> that -- despite goodwill and several attempts on my part -- Linux
> still has not overpowered me with its usefulness.
I have yet to see any OS that overpowers me with its usefulness.
> Extending
Tim Golden ha scritto:
> As it happens, (and I suspect I'll have to don my flameproof suit here),
> I prefer the Windows command line to bash/readline for day-to-day use,
> including in Python. Why? Because it does what I can't for the life of
> me get readline to do: you can type the first few
Tim Golden enlightened us with:
> But as far as I can tell from my experience and from the docs -- and
> I'm not near a Linux box at the mo -- having used ctrl-r to recall
> line x in the history, you can't just down-arrow to recall x+1, x+2
> etc. Or can you?
[Sybren]
With bash as well as the Py
Tim Golden enlightened us with:
> But as far as I can tell from my experience and from the docs -- and
> I'm not near a Linux box at the mo -- having used ctrl-r to recall
> line x in the history, you can't just down-arrow to recall x+1, x+2
> etc. Or can you?
With bash as well as the Python inte
[Sybren Stuvel]
[Tim Golden]
> > It's obvious that everyone has a different way of working, and that
> > I'm more comfortable in Windows because all sorts of small
> > familiarities
> So what I read in your post is that you simply don't want to leave
> your familiar environment. Fair enough.
Wel
oops, stand corrected. As I don't use the feature more than ctrl-r and
up/down arrow.
Tim Golden wrote:
> Thanks to both of you. But that much I already knew. It's not
> that I have *no* knowledge about readline: I did at least
> read the manuals when I got stuck! But as far as I can tell
> from m
Tim Golden wrote:
> As it happens, (and I suspect I'll have to don my flameproof suit
here),
> I prefer the Windows command line to bash/readline for day-to-day use,
> including in Python. Why? Because it does what I can't for the life of
> me get readline to do: you can type the first few letters
Tim Golden wrote:
>As it happens, (and I suspect I'll have to don my flameproof suit here),
>I prefer the Windows command line to bash/readline for day-to-day use,
>including in Python. Why? Because it does what I can't for the life of
>me get readline to do: you can type the first few letters
Tim Golden enlightened us with:
> Not quite fair. Not only would I avoid saying something with a
> redundant apostrophe ;) but the Windows user interface, at least for
> my purposes, didn't change such a huge amount between Win9x and
> Win2K,
Hence my reference to windows 3.1.
> It's obvious that
Jon Perez wrote:
> James Stroud wrote:
>
>
>>"better". The only reason I want this functionality is to make my software
>>available to windoze users--despite their unfortunate ignorance, they are
>>people too. That's what I always say.
>
>
> Actually, I think it's many unix/linux users who are
quoth the Tim Golden:
> As it happens, (and I suspect I'll have to don my flameproof suit here),
> I prefer the Windows command line to bash/readline for day-to-day use,
> including in Python. Why? Because it does what I can't for the life of
> me get readline to do: you can type the first few lett
Tim Golden wrote:
> As it happens, (and I suspect I'll have to don my flameproof suit here),
> I prefer the Windows command line to bash/readline for day-to-day use,
> including in Python. Why? Because it does what I can't for the life of
> me get readline to do: you can type the first few letters
[Sybren Stuvel]
Tim Golden enlightened us with:
> > Well, I'm with you. I'm sure a lot of people will chime in to point
> > out just how flexible and useful and productive Linux is as a
> > workstation, but every time I try to use it -- and I make an honest
> > effort -- I end up back in Windows
Tim Golden enlightened us with:
> Well, I'm with you. I'm sure a lot of people will chime in to point
> out just how flexible and useful and productive Linux is as a
> workstation, but every time I try to use it -- and I make an honest
> effort -- I end up back in Windows
I'm curious, what do you
Jon Perez enlightened us with:
> Actually, I think it's many unix/linux users who are ignorant of
> just how nice, stable and productive Windows can be as a desktop
> environment.
I thought the same thing after spending two hours removing some adware
I found.
> Ever since Win2K got rid of the con
> James Stroud wrote:
>> "better". The only reason I want this functionality is to make my
software
>> available to windoze users--despite their unfortunate ignorance, they
are
>> people too. That's what I always say.
Jon Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Actually, I think it's many unix/linux
Jon Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> James Stroud wrote:
>
>> "better". The only reason I want this functionality is to make my software
>> available to windoze users--despite their unfortunate ignorance, they are
>> people too. That's what I always say.
>
> Actually, I think it's many unix/lin
James Stroud wrote:
> "better". The only reason I want this functionality is to make my software
> available to windoze users--despite their unfortunate ignorance, they are
> people too. That's what I always say.
Actually, I think it's many unix/linux users who are ignorant of just
how nice, stab
On Saturday 17 September 2005 10:29, Tim Roberts wrote:
> James Stroud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I think the motivation is to ween people off of M$ products altogether,
>
> Well, CrossOver Office doesn't really do that. You're still running
> Microsoft Office.
>
> >...to get
> >them used to wo
The other thing (and this is always true) is that "better" needs
definition. On purely technical grounds, on average, MSOffice is better
than OO. However, holistically, OO is probably better (no lock-in, open
standards, multiplatform and so on). Those soft issues do matter.
On Mon, 19 Sep
Tim Roberts a écrit :
> James Stroud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>I think the motivation is to ween people off of M$ products altogether,
>
>
> Well, CrossOver Office doesn't really do that. You're still running
> Microsoft Office.
>
>
>>...to get
>>them used to working an a unix environm
James Stroud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I think the motivation is to ween people off of M$ products altogether,
Well, CrossOver Office doesn't really do that. You're still running
Microsoft Office.
>...to get
>them used to working an a unix environment and to the idea of using open
>altern
James Stroud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "better". The only reason I want this functionality is to make my software
> available to windoze users--despite their unfortunate ignorance, they are
> people too. That's what I always say.
+1 QOTW...
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Jorge Godoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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I think the motivation is to ween people off of M$ products altogether, to get
them used to working an a unix environment and to the idea of using open
alternatives rather than thinking that commercial software is somehow
"better". The only reason I want this functionality is to make my software
James Stroud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>My department has switched from vmware to wine/cxoffice.
Fascinating. If you don't mind, and if others don't mind an off-topic
diversion, can you spend a few minutes explaining what led to this
decision? Wine is pretty good, but it will never be as thor
James Stroud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello,
>
> My department has switched from vmware to wine/cxoffice. I have been
> playing with this all morning, and I've gotten this far. If someone
> has done this, could you point me in the right direction
>
>
> euler 65% winpy
> Enthought Edition buil
I know Thomas Heller monitors this list but you should probably
post this to gmane.comp.python.py2exe as it is the py2exe
newsgroup.
FYI, Larry Bates
James Stroud wrote:
> Hello,
>
> My department has switched from vmware to wine/cxoffice. I have been playing
> with this all morning, and I've g
Hello,
My department has switched from vmware to wine/cxoffice. I have been playing
with this all morning, and I've gotten this far. If someone has done this,
could you point me in the right direction
euler 65% winpy
Enthought Edition build 1057
Python 2.3.3 (#51, Feb 16 2004, 04:07:52) [MSC v
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