Re: Yes, this is a python question, and a serious one at that (moving to Win XP)

2005-10-20 Thread Steve Holden
Rocco Moretti wrote: > James Stroud wrote: > > >>I propose that any time anyone suggests switching to Windows, the reasons for >>such should be explicitly described, and not left to interpretation. > > > I propose that any time anyone suggests switching to Linux ... > I propose that any time a

Re: Yes, this is a python question, and a serious one at that (moving to Win XP)

2005-10-20 Thread Rocco Moretti
James Stroud wrote: > I propose that any time anyone suggests switching to Windows, the reasons for > such should be explicitly described, and not left to interpretation. I propose that any time anyone suggests switching to Linux ... I propose that any time anyone suggests switching to Mac ... I

Re: Yes, this is a python question, and a serious one at that (moving to Win XP)

2005-10-19 Thread James Stroud
First, my apologies. You sound sincere. But, in my defense to jump to conclusions and comparisons: (1) You compared first: "Windows has so many annoyances that I can only compare it...Bay Area...OS X...Portland..." (2) "Unfortunate reasons" can not necessarily be interpreted a

Re: Yes, this is a python question, and a serious one at that (moving to Win XP)

2005-10-19 Thread Fredrik Lundh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Try 4NT (http://www.jpsoft.com). It is like cmd on steroids. I've > been using it for years and it is the *only* thing that makes powerful > batch files possible on Windows. why bother with "powerful batch files" when you can use a real programming language ? --

Re: Yes, this is a python question, and a serious one at that (moving to Win XP)

2005-10-19 Thread Kenneth McDonald
Perhaps you didn't read my original post? I'm being forced to consider Windowsfor reasons beyond my control. Given that I wanted a decent shell in Windows,I thought I would ask about Python shells because I think Python is a great language,and such a beast would give me the flexibility I want on a

Re: Yes, this is a python question, and a serious one at that (moving to Win XP)

2005-10-19 Thread Simon Brunning
On 19/10/05, James Stroud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The OP is obviously a troll. Hey - let's not throw the T word around quite so freely. The OP did say that he was switching to Windows "for unfortunate reasons", and that OSX was "not as bad" as Windows. Besides, it is possible to prefer Windo

Re: Yes, this is a python question, and a serious one at that (moving to Win XP)

2005-10-19 Thread James Stroud
The OP is obviously a troll. Or he doesn't realize that you can use any shell in OSX as the user default. I used OSX for 4 years and had to go 100% Linux because of my employer. OSX is the best of Linux and Windows--anybody who can't see that has obviously not worked with these three types of op

Re: Yes, this is a python question, and a serious one at that (moving to Win XP)

2005-10-19 Thread robinsiebler
Try 4NT (http://www.jpsoft.com). It is like cmd on steroids. I've been using it for years and it is the *only* thing that makes powerful batch files possible on Windows. It has a slew of features, including batch file debugging. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Yes, this is a python question, and a serious one at that (moving to Win XP)

2005-10-19 Thread Christopher Subich
Chris Lambacher wrote: > The shell that comes with MSys (from the MinGW guys). Is pretty good, although > it does have a bit of a problem with stdout output before a process exits, ie > it will hold back output until the process exits. > > As a bonus, the file system is a little more sane, and if

Re: Yes, this is a python question, and a serious one at that (moving to Win XP)

2005-10-18 Thread Chris Lambacher
The shell that comes with MSys (from the MinGW guys). Is pretty good, although it does have a bit of a problem with stdout output before a process exits, ie it will hold back output until the process exits. As a bonus, the file system is a little more sane, and if you are interested in compiling s

Re: Yes, this is a python question, and a serious one at that (moving to Win XP)

2005-10-18 Thread kdahlhaus
Hmm. I'm not sure what bothered you about cygwin, but if it has been awhile it's worth another look. For me it makes windows tolerable, and even productive. I'm scared more by your thoughts of transitioning from OS-X to windows. I've seen a bit of OS-X and am slowly be warmed up to it as an op

Re: Yes, this is a python question, and a serious one at that (moving to Win XP)

2005-10-17 Thread dave . benjamin
Jorgen Grahn wrote: > On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 12:37:25 +0200, Christophe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Kenneth McDonald a écrit : > >> For unfortunate reasons, I'm considering switching back to Win XP (from > >> OS X) as my "main" system. Windows has so many annoyances that I can > ... > >> Yes, I k

Re: Yes, this is a python question, and a serious one at that (moving to Win XP)

2005-10-17 Thread qwweeeit
Hi Claudio, I fully agree with you. I already used AutoIt 3 but when I moved to Linux I wasn't able to find anything similar. I moved also to Python for its power but also if it is called a scripting language it doesn't simply interact with graphical applications. As a last resort I tried DCOP (Des

Re: Yes, this is a python question, and a serious one at that (moving to Win XP)

2005-10-15 Thread Ivan Shevanski
On 10/14/05, Peter Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Christian Stapfer wrote:> 0.0. ... and add an item to your SendTo folder that allows> you to have Windows Explorer open a terminal window with its> current directory set to the currently displayed folder > (= "Open terminal here").Or install the

Re: Yes, this is a python question, and a serious one at that (moving to Win XP)

2005-10-15 Thread Jorgen Grahn
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 12:37:25 +0200, Christophe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kenneth McDonald a écrit : >> For unfortunate reasons, I'm considering switching back to Win XP (from >> OS X) as my "main" system. Windows has so many annoyances that I can ... >> Yes, I know that Cygwin is out there,

Re: Yes, this is a python question, and a serious one at that (moving to Win XP)

2005-10-14 Thread Fernando Perez
> Kenneth McDonald a écrit : >> For unfortunate reasons, I'm considering switching back to Win XP (from >> OS X) as my "main" system. Windows has so many annoyances that I can >> only compare it to driving in the Bay Area at rush hour (OS X is like >> driving in Portland at rush hour--not as bad

Re: Yes, this is a python question, and a serious one at that (moving to Win XP)

2005-10-14 Thread Peter Hansen
Christian Stapfer wrote: > 0.0. ... and add an item to your SendTo folder that allows > you to have Windows Explorer open a terminal window with its > current directory set to the currently displayed folder > (= "Open terminal here"). Or install the "Command Prompt Here" gadget that MS produces, w

Re: Yes, this is a python question, and a serious one at that (moving to Win XP)

2005-10-14 Thread Christophe
Kenneth McDonald a écrit : > For unfortunate reasons, I'm considering switching back to Win XP (from > OS X) as my "main" system. Windows has so many annoyances that I can > only compare it to driving in the Bay Area at rush hour (OS X is like > driving in Portland at rush hour--not as bad, b

Re: Yes, this is a python question, and a serious one at that (moving to Win XP)

2005-10-13 Thread Christian Stapfer
"John J. Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Kenneth McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [...] >> absolutely preventing me from making the switch. Number one is the >> lack of a decent command line and command-line environment, and I'm >> wondering (hoping) if per

Re: Yes, this is a python question, and a serious one at that (moving to Win XP)

2005-10-13 Thread Trent Mick
[John J. Lee wrote] > 4. There's a registry key for tab completion somewhere... Search for "CompletionChar" and change it to 9. http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/2000/server/reskit/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/Windows/2000/server/reskit/en-us/regentry/3499

Re: Yes, this is a python question, and a serious one at that (moving to Win XP)

2005-10-13 Thread John J. Lee
Kenneth McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > absolutely preventing me from making the switch. Number one is the > lack of a decent command line and command-line environment, and I'm > wondering (hoping) if perhaps someone has written a "Python shell"-- > something that will look like a

Re: Yes, this is a python question, and a serious one at that (moving to Win XP)

2005-10-13 Thread Claudio Grondi
What I can point you to is not Python, but embedding it in Python is a question of executing one line of Python code triggering its execution. I think you will be fascinated by its features and ease of use and how well it is suited to fit into your needs: http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3/index

Re: Yes, this is a python question, and a serious one at that (moving to Win XP)

2005-10-13 Thread Jeremy Jones
Kenneth McDonald wrote: >For unfortunate reasons, I'm considering switching back to Win XP >(from OS X) as my "main" system. Windows has so many annoyances that >I can only compare it to driving in the Bay Area at rush hour (OS X >is like driving in Portland at rush hour--not as bad, but get

Yes, this is a python question, and a serious one at that (moving to Win XP)

2005-10-13 Thread Kenneth McDonald
For unfortunate reasons, I'm considering switching back to Win XP (from OS X) as my "main" system. Windows has so many annoyances that I can only compare it to driving in the Bay Area at rush hour (OS X is like driving in Portland at rush hour--not as bad, but getting there), but there are