On 2020-07-03 10:09, Daley Okuwa via Python-list wrote:
> Write an algorithm (choose the language you prefer) that given a
> character string, for instance {‘c’,’a’,’i’,’o’,’p’,’a’}, will
> print out the list of characters appearing at least 2 times. In
> this specific example, it would return {‘a’
On 03/07/2020 11:09, Daley Okuwa via Python-list wrote:
Please can someone help
Write an algorithm (choose the language you prefer) that given a character
string, for instance {‘c’,’a’,’i’,’o’,’p’,’a’}, will print out the list of
characters appearing at least 2 times. In this specific example
Hello!
> Please can someone help
>
> Write an algorithm (choose the language you prefer) that given a
> character string, for instance {‘c’,’a’,’i’,’o’,’p’,’a’}, will print
> out the list of characters appearing at least 2 times. In this
> specific example, it would return {‘a’}. Afterwards, c
On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 at 14:42, ferzan saglam wrote:
> How can I stop this code when -1 is typed or at a maximum item count of ten.
> At the moment the code seems to be in a infinite loop meaning it keeps on
> asking for an entry until -1 is typed
> item = input()
> item != -1:
Try these
On 2019-10-28 06:42:46 -0700, ferzan saglam wrote:
> How can I stop this code when -1 is typed or at a maximum item count of ten.
I'm just rewriting that sentence in Python:
> At the moment the code seems to be in a infinite loop meaning it keeps on
> asking for an entry until -1 is typed
>
>
> On Oct 28, 2019, at 8:42 AM, ferzan saglam wrote:
>
> How can I stop this code when -1 is typed or at a maximum item count of ten.
> At the moment the code seems to be in a infinite loop meaning it keeps on
> asking for an entry until -1 is typed
>
>
> total = 0
Bev
> On Oct 28, 2019, at 8:42 AM, ferzan saglam wrote:
>
> How can I stop this code when -1 is typed or at a maximum item count of ten.
> At the moment the code seems to be in a infinite loop meaning it keeps on
> asking for an entry until -1 is typed
>
>
> total = 0
On 03Jun2019 16:32, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
On Mon, 3 Jun 2019 17:05:52 +0200 (CEST), "Lentes, Bernd"
declaimed the following:
I wrote a shellscript to create consistent images of the virtual
machines each night, using the bash and virsh (the libvirt shell).
Script is running fairly fine, bu
Hello peter and *,
Am 2018-02-03 hackte Peter J. Holzer in die Tasten:
> On 2018-01-29 19:14:57 +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
>> Am 2018-01-29 hackte Dan Stromberg in die Tasten:
>> > I don't see blueman on pypi, so this is probably part of the package
>> > you downloaded, and not something you n
On 2018-01-29 19:14:57 +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am 2018-01-29 hackte Dan Stromberg in die Tasten:
> > I don't see blueman on pypi, so this is probably part of the package
> > you downloaded, and not something you need to "pip3 install".
>
> I have Python 2.7 and 3.5 from the Debian GNU/Lin
Good morning,
Am 2018-01-30 hackte careenjosep...@gmail.com in die Tasten:
> One contributing factor to this problem is the artificial environment that
> online courses provide to students. Students are usually typing code into
> a web page that contains instructions and hints. This is not how rea
One contributing factor to this problem is the artificial environment that
online courses provide to students. Students are usually typing code into a web
page that contains instructions and hints. This is not how real programming
gets done. So when the course is over and it’s time to use a real
Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Hello *,
>
> because I am runing into problems with SOME python based programs, I the
> this as opportunity to learn python (after ASM, C, BaSH, CP/M, COBOL,
> JS, PHP and perl).
>
>
> OK, I tried to install "blueman" (Bluetooth Manager) on my Debian 9.2
> (Stret
Hello Dan,
Am 2018-01-29 hackte Dan Stromberg in die Tasten:
> I don't see blueman on pypi, so this is probably part of the package
> you downloaded, and not something you need to "pip3 install".
I have Python 2.7 and 3.5 from the Debian GNU/Linux repository installed
I use the Stable (Stretch) v
On 2018-01-29 17:01, Michelle Konzack wrote:
[snip]
I think, that I have found the error here:
sys.path = [_dirname, os.path.join(_dirname, 'module', '.libs')] + sys.path
because there is written in
[ '/usr/lib/python-3.5/os.py' ]-
To get a full path (w
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 9:01 AM, Michelle Konzack
wrote:
> OK, I tried to install "blueman" (Bluetooth Manager) on my Debian 9.2
> (Stretch system and discovered a problem:
>
> [ c 'blueman-applet' ]--
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File
In article ,
larry.mart...@gmail.com says...
>
> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 6:37 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> > pta...@gmail.com:
> >
> >> New to Python and have been at it for about a month now. I'm doing
> >> well and like it very much. Considering a career change down the road
> >> and have been w
On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Larry Martell writes:
>> I can tell they think I am old and they dismiss me right away.
>
> http://oldgeekjobs.com ?
Cool! Thanks! Sharing with all my old nerdy friends.
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Larry Martell writes:
> I can tell they think I am old and they dismiss me right away.
http://oldgeekjobs.com ?
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On 6/6/17 5:39 PM, [1]pta...@gmail.com wrote:
New to Python and have been at it for about a month now. I'm doing well and
like it very much. Considering a career change down the road and have been
wondering... What are the job prospects for a middle age entry level
programmer. Just trying t
On Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 3:37:56 PM UTC-7, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> pta...@gmail.com:
>
> > New to Python and have been at it for about a month now. I'm doing
> > well and like it very much. Considering a career change down the road
> > and have been wondering... What are the job prospects for a
On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 6:37 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> pta...@gmail.com:
>
>> New to Python and have been at it for about a month now. I'm doing
>> well and like it very much. Considering a career change down the road
>> and have been wondering... What are the job prospects for a middle age
>> en
pta...@gmail.com:
> New to Python and have been at it for about a month now. I'm doing
> well and like it very much. Considering a career change down the road
> and have been wondering... What are the job prospects for a middle age
> entry level programmer. Just trying to get a better understandin
On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 5:39 PM, wrote:
> New to Python and have been at it for about a month now. I'm doing well and
> like it very much. Considering a career change down the road and have been
> wondering... What are the job prospects for a middle age entry level
> programmer. Just trying to
On 2017-05-17, BT wrote:
> I am fairly new to programming. I was just trying to understand how
> this group works. Am i allowed to ask any questions that I may have
> when i get stuck?
Certainly.
For best results, post small pieces of code that demonstrate your
problem/question (cut and paste f
On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 9:00:08 PM UTC+1, BT wrote:
> Hi guys,
> I am fairly new to programming. I was just trying to understand how this
> group works. Am i allowed to ask any questions that I may have when i get
> stuck? I mean is this group for new programmers as well..?
> Thanks
You ca
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 4:43 PM, justin walters
wrote:
> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 12:59 PM, BT wrote:
>
> > Hi guys,
> > I am fairly new to programming. I was just trying to understand how this
> > group works. Am i allowed to ask any questions that I may have when i get
> > stuck? I mean is this
BT writes:
> I am fairly new to programming. I was just trying to understand how
> this group works. Am i allowed to ask any questions that I may have
> when i get stuck? I mean is this group for new programmers as well..?
Welcome. Yes, it's for pretty much any questions about Python
programmin
On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 5:59 AM, BT wrote:
> I am fairly new to programming. I was just trying to understand how this
> group works. Am i allowed to ask any questions that I may have when i get
> stuck? I mean is this group for new programmers as well..?
>
Hi! Yes, it is, but if you're really R
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 12:59 PM, BT wrote:
> Hi guys,
> I am fairly new to programming. I was just trying to understand how this
> group works. Am i allowed to ask any questions that I may have when i get
> stuck? I mean is this group for new programmers as well..?
> Thanks
> --
> https://mail.p
On 17 October 2016 at 21:51, Bill Cunningham wrote:
> I just installed python I might start with 3. But there is version 2 out
> too. So far I can '3+4' and get the answer. Nice. I typed the linux man page
> and got a little info. So to learn this language is there an online
> tutorial? I am i
On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Bill Cunningham
wrote:
> I just installed python I might start with 3. But there is version 2 out
> too. So far I can '3+4' and get the answer. Nice. I typed the linux man
> page
> and got a little info. So to learn this language is there an online
> tutorial? I
On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 8:51:52 PM UTC+1, Bill Cunningham wrote:
> I just installed python I might start with 3. But there is version 2 out
> too. So far I can '3+4' and get the answer. Nice. I typed the linux man page
> and got a little info. So to learn this language is there an online
On 17 Oct 2016, at 21:51, Bill Cunningham wrote:
I just installed python I might start with 3. But there is version
2 out
too. So far I can '3+4' and get the answer. Nice. I typed the linux
man page
and got a little info. So to learn this language is there an online
tutorial? I am interest
> So to learn this language is there an online
> tutorial?
Yup, go to https://docs.python.org/3/ and check out the tutorial links.
Also, if you want useful replies in the future, please provide a valid
email address. A private reply to this particular question would have been
better than bombing t
On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 08:34:30 -0800, Anas Belemlih wrote:
> i am a beginning programmer, i am trying to write a simple code to
> compare two character sets in 2 seperate files. ( 2 hash value files
> basically)
Why? If you simply wish to compare two files, most operating systems
provide executa
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 17:55:33 +, Quivis wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 13:58:35 +1100, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
>> horribly inefficient
>
> Assuming it was md5 values, who cares? Those are small.
A file of 160 million md5 hashes as 32 character hex strings is a huge
file. Your method calculat
Tim Chase wrote:
> On 2015-11-12 15:56, Peter Otten wrote:
>> Tim Chase wrote:
>>
>> > with open("file1.md5") as a, open("file2.md5") as b:
>> > for s1, s2 in zip(a, b):
>> > if s1 != s2:
>> > print("Files differ")
>>
>> Note that this will not detect extra lines in one of th
On 2015-11-12 15:56, Peter Otten wrote:
> Tim Chase wrote:
>
> > with open("file1.md5") as a, open("file2.md5") as b:
> > for s1, s2 in zip(a, b):
> > if s1 != s2:
> > print("Files differ")
>
> Note that this will not detect extra lines in one of the files.
> I recommend that
Tim Chase wrote:
> with open("file1.md5") as a, open("file2.md5") as b:
> for s1, s2 in zip(a, b):
> if s1 != s2:
> print("Files differ")
Note that this will not detect extra lines in one of the files.
I recommend that you use itertools.zip_longest (izip_longest in Python 2)
Would some form of subprocess.Popen() on cmp or fc /b be easier?
On Nov 12, 2015 7:13 AM, "Tim Chase" wrote:
> On 2015-11-12 08:21, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> > And if you really wanted to compare two files that are known to
> > contain MD5 checksums, the simplest way is:
> >
> >with open('f1.md
On 2015-11-12 08:21, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> And if you really wanted to compare two files that are known to
> contain MD5 checksums, the simplest way is:
>
>with open('f1.md5') as f1, open('f2.md5') as f2:
>if f1.read() == f2.read():
>...
>else:
>...
T
Steven D'Aprano :
> On Thursday 12 November 2015 04:48, Quivis wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 08:34:30 -0800, Anas Belemlih wrote:
>>
>>> md5
>>
>> If those are md5 values stored inside files, wouldn't it be easier to
>> just hash them?
>>
>> import hashlib
>>
>> m1 = hashlib.sha224(open('f1'
On Thursday 12 November 2015 04:48, Quivis wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 08:34:30 -0800, Anas Belemlih wrote:
>
>> md5
>
> If those are md5 values stored inside files, wouldn't it be easier to
> just hash them?
>
> import hashlib
>
> m1 = hashlib.sha224(open('f1').read()).hexdigest()
> m2 = has
Anas Belemlih writes:
> i am a beginning programmer, i am trying to write a simple code to
> compare two character sets in 2 seperate files. ( 2 hash value files
> basically)
Welcome, and congratulations on arriving at Python for your programming!
As a beginning programmer, you will benefit f
On 2015-11-11 08:34, Anas Belemlih wrote:
> i am a beginning programmer, i am trying to write a simple code
> to compare two character sets in 2 seperate files. ( 2 hash value
> files basically) idea is: open both files, measure the length of
> the loop on.
>
> if the length doesn't match, ==
In <93aef8e5-3d6f-41f4-a625-cd3c20076...@googlegroups.com> Anas Belemlih
writes:
> i=0
> s1=line1[i]
> s2=line2[i]
> count = 0
> if number1 != number2:
> print " hash table not the same size"
> else:
> while count < number1:
> if s1 == s2:
> print " character", lin
Glenn Schultz writes:
> ...
> Following the example of Ivan I have setup A folder structure. My
> understand is that if each folder has an __init__.py From what it is
> considered a module. Have I set this up correctly?
An "__init__.py" in a folder used to indicate that this folder
is a
Hey David,
Yeah,I had an overall look at
https://www.python.org/about/gettingstarted/! Let me dig deep into the
websites you shared me with!
Thanks,
Arthi
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 1:19 PM, David Palao
wrote:
> 2015-07-20 7:20 GMT+02:00 Arthi Vigneshwari :
> > Hi,
> > Am intereste
2015-07-20 7:20 GMT+02:00 Arthi Vigneshwari :
> Hi,
> Am interested to learn python!Can you please guide me how to start with
> python which will help in my selenium automation?
>
> Regards,
> Arthi
>
> --
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>
Hi,
If you enter "learning python
In article ,
Rustom Mody wrote:
>On Monday, April 20, 2015 at 4:00:16 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Monday 20 April 2015 12:43, Rustom Mody wrote:
>>
>> > You've a 10-file python project in which you want to replace function 'f'
>> > by function 'longname'
>> > How easy is it?
>>
>> A
On Saturday, April 25, 2015 at 12:57:34 PM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Rustom Mody :
> > Some rambly ruminations on switchable (aka firstclass) syntax
> > http://blog.languager.org/2015/04/poverty-universality-structure-0.html
>
> I'll ruminate in response:
Thanks for a connoisseur review
Rustom Mody :
> Some rambly ruminations on switchable (aka firstclass) syntax
> http://blog.languager.org/2015/04/poverty-universality-structure-0.html
I'll ruminate in response:
* The awesomeness of lisp is in lambda calculus and not in macros.
* Lisp syntax is actually not quite first-class
On Friday, April 17, 2015 at 10:36:13 PM UTC+5:30, BartC wrote:
> (Actually *I* would quite like to know why languages don't have
> switchable syntax anyway to allow for people's personal preferences.)
Some rambly ruminations on switchable (aka firstclass) syntax
http://blog.languager.org/2015/04
On 04/24/2015 01:31 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 16/04/2015 15:52, Blake McBride wrote:
>> So, Python may be a cute language for you to use as an individual, but it
>> is unwieldy in a real development environment.
>>
>
> First paragraph from
> http://www.talkpythontome.com/episodes/show/4/ent
On 16/04/2015 15:52, Blake McBride wrote:
So, Python may be a cute language for you to use as an individual, but it is
unwieldy in a real development environment.
First paragraph from
http://www.talkpythontome.com/episodes/show/4/enterprise-python-and-large-scale-projects
Mahmoud is lead
On 22/04/2015 12:37, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 9:35:34 AM UTC+5:30, llanitedave wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 8:12:07 PM UTC-7, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 3:05:57 AM UTC+5:30, llanitedave wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 10:49:34 AM U
On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 9:35:34 AM UTC+5:30, llanitedave wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 8:12:07 PM UTC-7, Rustom Mody wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 3:05:57 AM UTC+5:30, llanitedave wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 10:49:34 AM UTC-7, Rustom Mody wrote:
> > > >
On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 8:12:07 PM UTC-7, Rustom Mody wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 3:05:57 AM UTC+5:30, llanitedave wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 10:49:34 AM UTC-7, Rustom Mody wrote:
> > > If only Galileo had had you as lawyer...
> >
> > Well, I'd asked Giordano Bruno
On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 3:05:57 AM UTC+5:30, llanitedave wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 10:49:34 AM UTC-7, Rustom Mody wrote:
> > If only Galileo had had you as lawyer...
>
> Well, I'd asked Giordano Bruno for a positive recommendation. For some
> inexplicable reason, he declined.
On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 10:49:34 AM UTC-7, Rustom Mody wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 9:01:08 PM UTC+5:30, llanitedave wrote:
> > On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 7:09:02 PM UTC-7, Rustom Mody wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > let me spell it out:
> > > Prestige of Aristotle stymies progress of p
On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 9:01:08 PM UTC+5:30, llanitedave wrote:
> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 7:09:02 PM UTC-7, Rustom Mody wrote:
> >
> >
> > let me spell it out:
> > Prestige of Aristotle stymies progress of physics of 2 millennia
> > likewise
> > Prestige of Unix development environment
On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 7:09:02 PM UTC-7, Rustom Mody wrote:
>
>
> let me spell it out:
> Prestige of Aristotle stymies progress of physics of 2 millennia
> likewise
> Prestige of Unix development environment keeps us stuck with text files when
> the world has moved on
Difference is, Aristo
On Monday, April 20, 2015 at 9:14:23 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> I definitely don't see how a non-text source code format would improve
> on it. Feel like elaborating?
You are putting emphasis on the 'non'. This puts you into an oscillatory system
between tautology and contradiction:
How
On 20/04/2015 11:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Monday 20 April 2015 12:43, Rustom Mody wrote:
You've a 10-file python project in which you want to replace function 'f'
by function 'longname'
How easy is it?
About a thousand times easier than the corresponding situation:
You have ten PDF file
On Monday, April 20, 2015 at 4:00:16 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Monday 20 April 2015 12:43, Rustom Mody wrote:
>
> > You've a 10-file python project in which you want to replace function 'f'
> > by function 'longname'
> > How easy is it?
>
> About a thousand times easier than the co
On Monday 20 April 2015 12:43, Rustom Mody wrote:
> You've a 10-file python project in which you want to replace function 'f'
> by function 'longname'
> How easy is it?
About a thousand times easier than the corresponding situation:
You have ten PDF files in which you want to replace the word "f
On Monday 20 April 2015 18:38, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> Wheels have been round for thousands of years! Why can't we
>> try something modern, like triangular wheels?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reuleaux_triangle
>
> http://blog.geomblog.org/2004/04/square-wheels.html
I work in research and mainly use Fortran and Python.
I haven't had any problem with the python indentation. I like it, I find it
simple and easy.
Well, sometimes I may forget to close an IF block with an ENDIF, in Fortran, so
used I am on ending a block just decreasing the indentation, not a
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Wheels have been round for thousands of years! Why can't we
try something modern, like triangular wheels?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reuleaux_triangle
http://blog.geomblog.org/2004/04/square-wheels.html
--
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Chris Angelico :
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
>> On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 06:41 am, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> Python has a noncanonical textual representation?
>>
>> What is a noncanonical textual representation, and where can I see
>> some?
>
> I think what Marko means
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
>> If you have a ten-file project that's identifying a key function
>> globally as 'f', then you already have a problem. If your names are
>> more useful and informative, a global search-and-replace will do the
>> job.
>
> Are you sure your globa
On Monday, April 20, 2015 at 8:34:12 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> > The key thing to make this work is that the tab needs to be a reasonably
> > solid
> > non-leaky abstraction for denoting an indent.
> > As soon as you allow both tab
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 06:41 am, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>
>> Lisp has a noncanonical textual representation just like Python.
>
> Python has a noncanonical textual representation?
>
> What is a noncanonical textual representation, and where ca
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> The key thing to make this work is that the tab needs to be a reasonably solid
> non-leaky abstraction for denoting an indent.
> As soon as you allow both tabs and spaces all the interminable bikeshedding
> starts
>
Whatever you change, ther
On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 06:41 am, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Lisp has a noncanonical textual representation just like Python.
Python has a noncanonical textual representation?
What is a noncanonical textual representation, and where can I see some?
--
Steven
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On Monday, April 20, 2015 at 7:54:37 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> > Prestige of Unix development environment keeps us stuck with text files when
> > the world has moved on
>
> And what, pray, would we gain by using non-text source cod
On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 04:07 am, Dan Sommers wrote:
> Smalltalk, Forth, and LISP don't follow the program=textfile system
> (although LISP can, and does sometimes);
Correct, and the fact that they wrapped code and environment into a
completely opaque image was a major factor in their decline in popu
On 20/04/2015 03:08, Rustom Mody wrote:
Prestige of Unix development environment keeps us stuck with text files when
the world has moved on
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
--
My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask
what you can do for our language.
Mark Lawrence
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> Prestige of Unix development environment keeps us stuck with text files when
> the world has moved on
And what, pray, would we gain by using non-text source code? Aside
from binding ourselves to a set of tools, which would create an even
wors
On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 11:23:20 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Programmers use source code as text for the same reason that wheels are
> still round. Wheels have been round for thousands of years! Why can't we
> try something modern, like triangular wheels? Or something fractal in
> th
On Monday, April 20, 2015 at 2:11:13 AM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Michael Torrie:
>
> > On 04/18/2015 01:00 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> >> It would be possible to define a canonical AST storage format. Then,
> >> your editor could "incarnate" the AST in the syntax of your choosing.
> >
> >
On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 11:38:45 PM UTC+5:30, Dan Sommers wrote:
> What's to revamp? My IDE is UNIX.
Precisely my point: source-file = text-file is centerstage of Unix philosophy
If you want to start by questioning that, you must question not merely the
language (python or whatever) but th
On 20/04/2015 00:59, Ben Finney wrote:
BartC writes:
I used actual languages Python and C in my example, I should have used
A and B or something.
If you had, then the topic drifts so far from being relevant to a Python
programming forum that I'd ask you to stop.
Perhaps that should have hap
BartC writes:
> I used actual languages Python and C in my example, I should have used
> A and B or something.
If you had, then the topic drifts so far from being relevant to a Python
programming forum that I'd ask you to stop.
Perhaps that should have happened much sooner.
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On 04/19/2015 05:42 PM, BartC wrote:
So I'm aware of some of the things that are involved.
(BTW that project worked reasonably well, but I decided to go in a
different direction: turning "J" from a mere syntax into an actual language
of its own.)
Something you might try with your new langua
On 19/04/2015 13:59, Ben Finney wrote:
BartC writes:
Why shouldn't A configure his editor to display a Python program in
C-like syntax, and B configure their editor to use Python-like tabbed
syntax?
I don't recall anyone saying that *shouldn't* be done. Feel free to
make, and maintain and su
Michael Torrie :
> On 04/18/2015 01:00 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> It would be possible to define a canonical AST storage format. Then,
>> your editor could "incarnate" the AST in the syntax of your choosing.
>
> As was just mentioned in another part of the thread, what you're
> describing is ess
Steven D'Aprano writes:
> You might be interested in the Coffeescript model>
> You'll notice that Coffeescript isn't a mere preprocessor or source code
> transformation.
I like Purescript (purescript.org) better than Coffeescript, but either
way, I don't see Python as an attractive target fo
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 4:07 AM, Dan Sommers wrote:
> IMO, until git's successor tracks content-_not_-delimited-by-linefeeds,
> languages will continue to work that way.
Linefeeds are nothing to git - it tracks the entire content of the
file. When you ask to see the diff between two versions of a
On Thursday, April 16, 2015 at 11:06:28 PM UTC+8, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 16/04/2015 15:52, Blake McBride wrote:
>
> > So, Python may be a cute language for you to use as an individual, but it
> > is unwieldy in a real development environment.
> >
>
> Thanks for this, one of the funniest comme
On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 03:53:08 +1000, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 02:03 am, Rustom Mody wrote:
>> Well evidently some people did but fortunately their managers did not
>> interfere.
>
> You are assuming they had managers. University life isn't exactly the
> same as corporate cultu
On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 09:03:23 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote:
> Now if Thomson and Ritchie (yeah thems the guys) could do it in 1970,
> why cant we revamp this 45-year old archaic program=textfile system
> today?
Revamp? What's to revamp?
C, C++, C#, Java, FORTRAN, Python, Perl, Ruby, POSIX shells, Ja
On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 02:03 am, Rustom Mody wrote:
> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 8:45:27 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>
>
>> I suspect you'll find the task fundamentally hard.
>
> How hard?
> Lets see.
> Two guys wanted to write an OS.
> Seeing current languages not upto their standard
On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 09:38 pm, BartC wrote:
> (I think much of the problem that most languages are intimately
> associated with their specific syntax, so that people can't see past it
> to what the code is actually saying. a=b, a:=b, b=>a, (setf a b),
> whatever the syntax is, who cares? We just wa
On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 09:03:23 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote:
> Now if Thomson and Ritchie (yeah thems the guys) could do it in 1970,
> why cant we revamp this 45-year old archaic program=textfile system
> today?
Dunno. Why not? There's half of you right there.
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On 04/18/2015 01:00 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Ben Finney :
>
>> If you only write programs that will only ever be read by you and
>> no-one else, feel free to maintain a fork of Python (or any other
>> language) that suits your personal preferences.
>
> It would be possible to define a canonica
On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 8:45:27 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> I suspect you'll find the task fundamentally hard.
How hard?
Lets see.
Two guys wanted to write an OS.
Seeing current languages not upto their standard they first made themselves a
suitable language.
Would you call their
On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 9:38 PM, BartC wrote:
> Suppose there were just two syntaxes: C-like and Python-like (we'll put
> aside for a minute the question of what format is used to store Python
> source code).
>
> Why shouldn't A configure his editor to display a Python program in C-like
> syntax,
On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 5:15:07 PM UTC+5:30, BartC wrote:
> On 18/04/2015 03:22, Rustom Mody wrote:
> > On Saturday, April 18, 2015 at 6:49:30 AM UTC+5:30, Dan Sommers wrote:
> >> On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 18:05:52 +0100, BartC wrote:
> >>
> >>> (Actually *I* would quite like to know why languages d
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