On 2023-01-31, Alan Gauld wrote:
> On 28/01/2023 21:36, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
>
>> Now -- last time I checked the gmane server says posting is prohibited.
>> I used to use gmane as it retrieved directly from the mailing list
>
> I still use gmane but its no posting thing is a pain because
On 28/01/2023 21:36, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> Now -- last time I checked the gmane server says posting is prohibited.
> I used to use gmane as it retrieved directly from the mailing list
I still use gmane but its no posting thing is a pain because responding
(or posting new stuff) is a n
On 2023-01-31, Anssi Saari wrote:
> Grant Edwards writes:
>
>> No. FWIW, it's the mailing list that's blocking them, not Gmane.
>>
>> That's why I wrote this:
>>
>> https://github.com/GrantEdwards/hybrid-inews
>>
>> It's an inews work-alike that submits most posts via gmanes NNTP
>> server, b
Grant Edwards writes:
> No. FWIW, it's the mailing list that's blocking them, not Gmane.
>
> That's why I wrote this:
>
> https://github.com/GrantEdwards/hybrid-inews
>
> It's an inews work-alike that submits most posts via gmanes NNTP
> server, but will deal with particular groups
> (e.g. gm
On 2023-01-28, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 20:07:44 +, Chris Green declaimed the
> following:
>
>
>>As far as I am aware the mirroring of the Python mailing list on
>>comp.lan.python works perfectly. I love gmane! :-)
>
> Is gmane's gmane.comp.python.general allowing
On 2023-01-28, Chris Green wrote:
> As far as I am aware the mirroring of the Python mailing list on
> comp.lan.python works perfectly. I love gmane! :-)
If gmane stopped working, I'd have to retire and give up on computers.
I supposed I might be able to hammer procmail and mutt into something
On 2023-01-29, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> On 2023-01-29 02:09:28 -, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote:
>> I'm not aware of any significant period in the last twenty-one years
>> that
> [the gateway]
>> hasn't been working. Although sometimes it does feel like it isn't, in
>> that I reply to a po
Igor Berger writes:
> On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 10:02:57 PM UTC-5, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>> Jon Ribbens writes:
>>
>> > On 2023-01-29, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>> >> "Peter J. Holzer" writes:
>> >>
>> >>> On 2023-01-27 21:04:58 +, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>> mut...@dastardlyhq.com
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 10:02:57 PM UTC-5, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> Jon Ribbens writes:
>
> > On 2023-01-29, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> >> "Peter J. Holzer" writes:
> >>
> >>> On 2023-01-27 21:04:58 +, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> mut...@dastardlyhq.com writes:
>
> > Hi
On 2023-01-29 02:09:28 -, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote:
> I'm not aware of any significant period in the last twenty-one years
> that
[the gateway]
> hasn't been working. Although sometimes it does feel like it isn't, in
> that I reply to a post with an answer and then several other people
Jon Ribbens writes:
> On 2023-01-29, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>> "Peter J. Holzer" writes:
>>
>>> On 2023-01-27 21:04:58 +, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
mutt...@dastardlyhq.com writes:
> Hi
It looks like you posted this question via Usenet. comp.lang.python is
essential
On 2023-01-29, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> "Peter J. Holzer" writes:
>
>> On 2023-01-27 21:04:58 +, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>>> mutt...@dastardlyhq.com writes:
>>>
>>> > Hi
>>>
>>> It looks like you posted this question via Usenet. comp.lang.python is
>>> essentially dead as a Usenet group. It ex
"Peter J. Holzer" writes:
> On 2023-01-27 21:04:58 +, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>> mutt...@dastardlyhq.com writes:
>>
>> > Hi
>>
>> It looks like you posted this question via Usenet. comp.lang.python is
>> essentially dead as a Usenet group. It exists, and gets NNTP versions
>> of mail sent to
On Sun, 29 Jan 2023 at 12:07, Chris Green wrote:
>
> Chris Green wrote:
> > Jon Ribbens wrote:
> > > On 2023-01-28, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> > > > On 2023-01-27 21:04:58 +, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> > > >> It looks like you posted this question via Usenet. comp.lang.python is
> > > >> essenti
On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 20:07:44 +, Chris Green declaimed the
following:
>As far as I am aware the mirroring of the Python mailing list on
>comp.lan.python works perfectly. I love gmane! :-)
Is gmane's gmane.comp.python.general allowing posts to go through
again? I had to revert to com
Chris Green wrote:
> Jon Ribbens wrote:
> > On 2023-01-28, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> > > On 2023-01-27 21:04:58 +, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> > >> It looks like you posted this question via Usenet. comp.lang.python is
> > >> essentially dead as a Usenet group. It exists, and gets NNTP versions
Jon Ribbens wrote:
> On 2023-01-28, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> > On 2023-01-27 21:04:58 +, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> >> It looks like you posted this question via Usenet. comp.lang.python is
> >> essentially dead as a Usenet group. It exists, and gets NNTP versions
> >> of mail sent to the maili
On 2023-01-28, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> On 2023-01-27 21:04:58 +, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>> It looks like you posted this question via Usenet. comp.lang.python is
>> essentially dead as a Usenet group. It exists, and gets NNTP versions
>> of mail sent to the mailing list, but nothing posted to
On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 15:30:59 +0100, "Peter J. Holzer"
declaimed the following:
>On 2023-01-27 21:04:58 +, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>> mutt...@dastardlyhq.com writes:
>>
>> > Hi
>>
>> It looks like you posted this question via Usenet. comp.lang.python is
>> essentially dead as a Usenet group.
On 05/24/2018 08:20 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> But you had to jump through hoops with procmail and server/client side
> filtering to get there.
True, but it takes maybe 30 seconds for each new list I sign up for, and
then it's out of sight, out of mind. I already do a ton of filtering on
my inbox
On 05/24/2018 07:01 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2018 05:44:26 -0600, Michael Torrie wrote:
>
>> I agree web forums really suck for any kind of multi-user conversation.
>
> Oh good. Because the Python core-devs are talking about moving to
> Github's web interface instead of email.
On 05/24/2018 07:10 AM, Chris Green wrote:
> A *thread* yes, but not a whole list. I.e. if you read this using
> mail/IMAP you can mark a thread read but you can't mark *all* Python
> list messages read in one go can you? With tin/Usenet I look at
> the list of new subjects in the Python group
José María Mateos wrote:
> On Thu, May 24, 2018, at 09:10, Chris Green wrote:
> > > Yes I can mark an entire thread as "read" in IMAP.
> > >
> > A *thread* yes, but not a whole list. I.e. if you read this using
> > mail/IMAP you can mark a thread read but you can't mark *all* Python
> > list mes
On Thu, May 24, 2018, at 09:10, Chris Green wrote:
> > Yes I can mark an entire thread as "read" in IMAP.
> >
> A *thread* yes, but not a whole list. I.e. if you read this using
> mail/IMAP you can mark a thread read but you can't mark *all* Python
> list messages read in one go can you? With t
On 2018-05-24, Michael Torrie wrote:
> On 05/23/2018 12:03 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> But IMO email pales in comparison to NNTP when there are more than a
>> few messages per day per group.
>
> This is not my experience at all. I used to use Usenet back in the day,
> but for nearly the last two
Michael Torrie wrote:
> Comparing to IMAP and Thunderbird:
>
> On 05/23/2018 04:39 PM, Chris Green wrote:
> > Well from other comments here it seems I'm not alone but anyway:-
> >
> > Proper threading etc. is built in
>
> check.
>
> >
> > It's automatically archived and one can search
On Thu, 24 May 2018 05:44:26 -0600, Michael Torrie wrote:
> I agree web forums really suck for any kind of multi-user conversation.
Oh good. Because the Python core-devs are talking about moving to
Github's web interface instead of email. Because Github is the future :-)
https://circleci.com/bl
Comparing to IMAP and Thunderbird:
On 05/23/2018 04:39 PM, Chris Green wrote:
> Well from other comments here it seems I'm not alone but anyway:-
>
> Proper threading etc. is built in
check.
>
> It's automatically archived and one can search back through
> threads for old postings,
On 05/23/2018 12:03 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> Yes. NNTP and NNTP clients were designed from the ground up to deal
> with ongoing discussions shared by large groups of people posting lots
> of messages, and they're _very_ good at.
>
> Email was designed for one person sending one message to anoth
Ned Batchelder wrote:
On 5/23/18 12:03 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
Brain damaged by facebook, AOL, M$, Google, yahoo yadda yadda into
thinking that webmail and forums are the only game in town?
Please avoid accusing others of being brain damaged, even if it was
meant in a humorous context. :(
I
On Wednesday 23 May 2018 19:24:52 Alan Bawden wrote:
> Gene Heskett writes:
> > You are stating an opinion, but no facts to back it up, so describe
> > your environment that makes you write that, please.
>
> If he describes his environment and why he likes it, will that be a
> "fact"? Or will yo
Gene Heskett writes:
> You are stating an opinion, but no facts to back it up, so describe your
> environment that makes you write that, please.
If he describes his environment and why he likes it, will that be a
"fact"? Or will you dismiss that as just another "opinion"?
You asked:
> can so
Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday 23 May 2018 12:45:57 Chris Green wrote:
>
> > Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote:
> > > can someone explain to me why the mailing list (spam free) is not
> > > used by everybody?
> >
> > Because the Usenet/NNTP interface (with a good newsreader) is so much
> > bett
On Wednesday 23 May 2018 12:45:57 Chris Green wrote:
> Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote:
> > can someone explain to me why the mailing list (spam free) is not
> > used by everybody?
>
> Because the Usenet/NNTP interface (with a good newsreader) is so much
> better! :-)
>
> --
> Chris Green
> ·
You
On 2018-05-23, Chris Green wrote:
> Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote:
>> can someone explain to me why the mailing list (spam free) is not used by
>> everybody?
>
> Because the Usenet/NNTP interface (with a good newsreader) is so much
> better! :-)
Yes. NNTP and NNTP clients were designed from th
On 2018-05-23, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote:
> can someone explain to me why the mailing list (spam free) is not used by
> everybody?
1) I perfer the user-interface offered by my NNTP client (slrn).
2) I don't want to archive many years worth of dozens of mailing
lists (I let gmane do t
On 5/23/18 12:03 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Wednesday 23 May 2018 11:20:34 Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote:
can someone explain to me why the mailing list (spam free) is not used
by everybody?
Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ
Brain damaged by facebook, AOL, M$, Google
Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote:
> can someone explain to me why the mailing list (spam free) is not used by
> everybody?
>
Because the Usenet/NNTP interface (with a good newsreader) is so much
better! :-)
--
Chris Green
·
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On Wednesday 23 May 2018 11:20:34 Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote:
> can someone explain to me why the mailing list (spam free) is not used
> by everybody?
>
> Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
> https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ
Brain damaged by facebook, AOL, M$, Google, yahoo yadda yadda into
thinking
can someone explain to me why the mailing list (spam free) is not used by
everybody?
Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ
>
>
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In article ,
Colin Higwell wrote:
>On Fri, 25 May 2012 15:38:55 -0700, Jon Clements wrote:
>
>>
>> Is there a server out there where I can get my news groups? I use to be
>> with an ISP that hosted usenet servers, but alas, it's no longer
>> around...
>>
>I use Albasani.net (free and very reliabl
On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 16:25:53 +0200, Matej Cepl wrote:
> Yes, Pan is better, but it used to have some rough edges
> (e.g., it's offline qualities were a bit elusive)
I wouldn't know about that. My connection is always-on.
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On 2012-06-03, Peter Pearson wrote:
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 16:05:23 +0100, duncan smith wrote:
>> On 25/05/12 23:38, Jon Clements wrote:
> [snip]
>>> Is there a server out there where I can get my news groups?
>>
>> If you don't mind paying a small fee there are several companies
>> providing usen
On Sat, 26 May 2012 16:05:23 +0100, duncan smith wrote:
> On 25/05/12 23:38, Jon Clements wrote:
[snip]
>> Is there a server out there where I can get my news groups?
>
> If you don't mind paying a small fee there are several companies
> providing usenet access such as http://www.newsdemon.com. (I
Jon Clements wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Normally use Google Groups but it's becoming absolutely frustrating - not only
> has the interface changed to be frankly impractical, the posts are somewhat
> random of what appears, is posted and whatnot. (Ironically posted from GG)
>
> Is there a server out th
On 03/06/12 13:59, Colin Higwell wrote:
Google Groups is an abomination IMHO, and I find it much easier to read
mailing lists via a newsreader. I highly recommend Pan, by the way.
I am still surprised how good experience I have with reading news with
Thunderbird. Yes, Pan is better, but it use
On Fri, 25 May 2012 15:38:55 -0700, Jon Clements wrote:
>
> Is there a server out there where I can get my news groups? I use to be
> with an ISP that hosted usenet servers, but alas, it's no longer
> around...
>
I use Albasani.net (free and very reliable), as well as gmane.org.
Google Groups i
Here is my SS: 259 71 2451
On May 26, 2012, at 8:05 AM, duncan smith wrote:
> On 25/05/12 23:38, Jon Clements wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Normally use Google Groups but it's becoming absolutely frustrating - not
>> only has the interface changed to be frankly impractical, the posts are
>> somewh
Here is my SS: 259 71 2451
On May 26, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
> In article ,
> duncan smith wrote:
>
>> On 25/05/12 23:38, Jon Clements wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Normally use Google Groups but it's becoming absolutely frustrating - not
>>> only has the interface changed to be fr
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Roy Smith wrote:
> I use panix.com. For $100/year, I get mail, news, and unix shell
> access. By some measures, it's an expensive way to get mail access, but
> I'd much rather give Panix $100 than take advantage of any of the free
> mail services who does who-kn
news.aioe.org
nntp.aioe.org
http://www.aioe.org/
Aioe.org hosts a public news server, an USENET site that is
intentionally kept open for all IP addresses without requiring any kind
of authentication both for reading and posting.Each IP address is
authorized to post 25 messages per day...
--
In article ,
duncan smith wrote:
> On 25/05/12 23:38, Jon Clements wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Normally use Google Groups but it's becoming absolutely frustrating - not
> > only has the interface changed to be frankly impractical, the posts are
> > somewhat random of what appears, is posted and
On 25/05/12 23:38, Jon Clements wrote:
Hi All,
Normally use Google Groups but it's becoming absolutely frustrating - not only
has the interface changed to be frankly impractical, the posts are somewhat
random of what appears, is posted and whatnot. (Ironically posted from GG)
Is there a serve
On Fri, 25 May 2012 23:30:24 -0600, Jason Earl
wrote:
>On Fri, May 25 2012, Jon Clements wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Normally use Google Groups but it's becoming absolutely frustrating -
>> not only has the interface changed to be frankly impractical, the
>> posts are somewhat random of what appear
[Default] On Fri, 25 May 2012 23:30:24 -0600, Jason Earl
wrote:
>On Fri, May 25 2012, Jon Clements wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Normally use Google Groups but it's becoming absolutely frustrating -
>> not only has the interface changed to be frankly impractical, the
>> posts are somewhat random of w
On Fri, May 25 2012, Jon Clements wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Normally use Google Groups but it's becoming absolutely frustrating -
> not only has the interface changed to be frankly impractical, the
> posts are somewhat random of what appears, is posted and
> whatnot. (Ironically posted from GG)
>
> Is
On Friday, May 25, 2012 3:38:55 PM UTC-7, Jon Clements wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Normally use Google Groups but it's becoming absolutely frustrating - not
> only has the interface changed to be frankly impractical, the posts are
> somewhat random of what appears, is posted and whatnot. (Ironically po
Em Wed, 14 May 2008 10:01:40 -0700, castironpi escreveu:
> On May 14, 11:58 am, "Terry Reedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Love them opticals.
Testing. :-P
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On May 14, 11:58 am, "Terry Reedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Duncan Booth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | I also recommend Gmane which provides a free news server for most mailing
> | lists: mailing lists are a lot more manageable when gatewayed into a news
On May 13, 1:02 pm, hdante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> How can I access Usenet without using Google Groups ? (my ISP doesn't
> have a NNTP server). Do you recommend doing so ?
>
> What's your prefered news reader ?
You can use Gmane or Nabble or you could subscribe to c.l.py as a
mai
Jacob Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi. I am a newbie to usenet. I am using mac and have downloaded a
> free usenet client, "MT-NewsWatcher". I put in comp.lang.python but
> it says that it cannot get the address of the news server host.
'comp.lang.python' is the name of the newsgroup, not
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Real people have real names. Using your real name on the net makes
> you less virtual to the people you communicate with.
on the other hand,
http://www.python.org/doc/Humor.html#timbot2
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 2005-12-06, Aahz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hmm, I though he explained it:
>>>
>>> 1) Not using your real name.
>>>
>>> 2) A yahoo,
>> Hmm, I though he explained it:
>>
>> 1) Not using your real name.
>>
>> 2) A yahoo, aol, or hotmail address.
>>
>> In the ancient and hallowed (by net standards) history of Usenet, both
>> of these (particularly the first one) have been pretty good predictors
On 2005-12-06, Aahz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>Hmm, I though he explained it:
>>
>> 1) Not using your real name.
>>
>> 2) A yahoo, aol, or hotmail address.
>>
>>In the ancient and hallowed (by net standards) histor
Aahz wrote:
> To use a Panix in-joke, how old are you, anyway?
>
> I've been on the Net for more than fifteen years, and while this canard
> about real names gets trotted out from time to time, it's quite clear
> that many many people have been active on the Net *and* taken seriously
> using name
John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> They don't have killfiles or scoring
>
> You can install a mod to kill people.
Gee, didn't know that it's that powerful. One more reason not to use web
forums :-)
Dragan
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Dragan Cvetkovic,
To be or not to be is true. G.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In comp.lang.perl.misc John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm talking about using the technology for communication, instead of
>> > reinventing the wheel with crappy web forums.
>>
>> What is exactly crappy about those forums?
>>
> They are slow
I have
In comp.lang.perl.misc John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I'm talking about using the technology for communication, instead of
> > reinventing the wheel with crappy web forums.
>
> What is exactly crappy about those forums?
>
They are slow
They are inflexible
They are slow
They do
Ulrich Hobelmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John Bokma wrote:
>> Ulrich Hobelmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> On the information side (in contrast to the discussion side) RSS is
>>> replacing Usenet,
>>
>> LOL, how? I can't post to RSS feeds. Or do you mean for lurkers?
>
> I said "inf
John Bokma wrote:
> Ulrich Hobelmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On the information side (in contrast to the discussion side) RSS is
>> replacing Usenet,
>
> LOL, how? I can't post to RSS feeds. Or do you mean for lurkers?
I said "information side", meaning stuff like RSS is used for.
>> T
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