On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 11:05 +0900, Bertilo Wennergren wrote:
> Aahz wrote:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>
> > Bertilo Wennergren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> I don't suppose there is any introductory material out there that is
> >> based on Python 3000 and that is also geared at
Nick Craig-Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On the other hand, leaving out the parens returns the function itself,
> > which you can then call later. I've often used this to create data-driven
> > logic.
>
> I didn't say it wasn't useful, just that if you came from Perl like I
> did, it
Roy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Nick Craig-Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > My favourite mistake when I made the transition was calling methods
> > without parentheses. In perl it is common to call methods without
> > parentheses - in python this
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Nick Craig-Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My favourite mistake when I made the transition was calling methods
> without parentheses. In perl it is common to call methods without
> parentheses - in python this does absolutely nothing! pychecker does
> warn abo
Bertilo Wennergren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm planning to start learning Python now, using Python 3000.
> I have no previous Python skills, but I now Perl pretty well.
> I'm also well experienced with JavaScript.
>
> Any pointers and tips how I should go about getting into
> Python?
Re
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Bertilo Wennergren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>The main reason I waited until Python 3000 came out is the new way
>Unicode is handled. The old way seemed really broken to me. Much of
>what I do when I program consists of juggling Unicode text (real
>Unicode text w
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Python Nutter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At least if you push REs inform the readers where to get the a RE GUI
> builder written in Python so they can build and *test* the complex and
> unwieldy REs to perform anything beyond the basic pattern searches.
Oh, my
Bertilo Wennergren wrote:
Aahz wrote:
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Bertilo Wennergren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I don't suppose there is any introductory material out there that is
based on Python 3000 and that is also geared at people with a Perl
background? Too early for that I gue
Aahz wrote:
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Bertilo Wennergren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I don't suppose there is any introductory material out there that is
based on Python 3000 and that is also geared at people with a Perl
background? Too early for that I guess..
Honestly, the diffe
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Well, as an old-time unix hacker (who learned REs long before Perl
> existed), my question to you would be, "Is there any problem which
> *shouldn't* be solved with an RE?" :-)
>
> One of the reasons REs don't get u
Perl Cookbook for Python Programmers:
http://pleac.sourceforge.net/pleac_python/index.html
P3K as starting point (slight cringe) as long as you know the caveats.
I'm of the mind as Christopher with regard to how Python 3.0 has been
released on Python.org:
"""I don't think that Python 3.0 is a ba
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 14:15:28 -0500, Roy Smith wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:50:20 -0500, Roy Smith wrote:
>>
>> > For your first
>> > project, pick something that's small enough that you think you could
>> > tac
On Dec 6, 12:30 pm, Roy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz)
> wrote:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Bertilo Wennergren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > >I don't suppose there is any introductory material out there that is
> > >base
On Dec 6, 5:00 am, Bertilo Wennergren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm planning to start learning Python now, using Python 3000.
> I have no previous Python skills, but I now Perl pretty well.
> I'm also well experienced with JavaScript.
>
> Any pointers and tips how I should go about getting into
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:50:20 -0500, Roy Smith wrote:
>
> > For your first
> > project, pick something that's small enough that you think you could
> > tackle it in under 50 lines of Perl.
>
> Is there anything which *c
News123 wrote:
What's more painful is to learn which functianilty is in which library
and which library exists.
Yes and one mistake I still often find myself doing is, when confronted
with a particular problem, that I write some helper code to deal with
it. Of course later on I discover tha
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz)
wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Bertilo Wennergren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >I don't suppose there is any introductory material out there that is
> >based on Python 3000 and that is also geared at people with a Perl
> >b
I fully agree with Roy's answer.
COding small tasks is a good starting point. For quite some time you'll
be of course less efficient than with your previous language, but that's
part of the learning curve, isn't it.
I guess you'll learn the syntax rather quickly.
What's more painful is to learn w
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Bertilo Wennergren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I don't suppose there is any introductory material out there that is
>based on Python 3000 and that is also geared at people with a Perl
>background? Too early for that I guess..
Honestly, the differences between 2.x
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:50:20 -0500, Roy Smith wrote:
> For your first
> project, pick something that's small enough that you think you could
> tackle it in under 50 lines of Perl.
Is there anything which *can't* be written in under 50 lines of Perl?
:-)
> One of the very first things you'll pr
Bertilo Wennergren wrote:
Roy Smith wrote:
Bertilo Wennergren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm planning to start learning Python now, using Python 3000.
I have no previous Python skills, but I now Perl pretty well.
I'm also well experienced with JavaScript.
Any pointers and tips how I should
Roy Smith wrote:
Bertilo Wennergren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm planning to start learning Python now, using Python 3000.
I have no previous Python skills, but I now Perl pretty well.
I'm also well experienced with JavaScript.
Any pointers and tips how I should go about getting into
Pyth
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Bertilo Wennergren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm planning to start learning Python now, using Python 3000.
> I have no previous Python skills, but I now Perl pretty well.
> I'm also well experienced with JavaScript.
>
> Any pointers and tips how I should go abo
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