On 3/28/21 12:28 PM, Michael Torrie wrote:
> You want to use an obsolete version of Python and an obsolete version of
> Qt. That's totally fine! But why are you angry when people, who are
> strictly volunteers, are unable to help much here other than to strongly
> recommend you reconsider?
Oops.
On 3/27/21 1:02 PM, pyt...@blackward.eu wrote:
> You say: "The point is that there are those who use Python 2 and
> don't want to move to Python 3, claiming that it's easier to switch
> from Python 2 to some other language than from Python 2 to Python 3.
> That's what seems questionable." And I say
On 27/03/2021 06:20, pyt...@blackward.eu wrote:
Chris,
you seem to imply, that I have compiled said versions without reason
and that the same would be possible on basis of Python 3 - which is
simply not true. Maybe you are not enough acquainted with Qt and
belonging libraries alike PyQtGraph.
On 3/27/2021 1:20 AM, pyt...@blackward.eu wrote:
By the way, some months ago I started trying to migrate to Python 3 and
gave up in favor of creating said compilation.
Why? What was biggest roadblock?
Compatibility of Python and its Packages decreased with V3 significantly.
I don't believ
On 2021-03-27, MRAB wrote:
> On 2021-03-27 17:03, pyt...@blackward.eu wrote:
>> You write, that "Everyone claims that it's easier to move to some other
>> language rather than to migrate to Python 3".
>>
>> Thank you for sharing this remarkable information!
>
> You've quoted him partially and inc
I would like to suggest adding "Blythooon" to the list under "Other
parties have re-packaged CPython" listed here:
https://www.python.org/download/alternatives/
Your title is misleading because you are proposing a change to a
python.org website page, not the 'Python documentation'. That te
I answered your actual question, in your original post, separately. But
by posting here, and continuing to respond, you implicitly invited
extended discussion with questions and opinions.
On 3/26/2021 11:15 PM, pyt...@blackward.eu wrote:
in response to Chris Angelico, a long-time python-list
On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 7:46 AM Avi Gross via Python-list
wrote:
>
> What are the odds, Chris, that rewriting an existing project written in an
> older version of a language like python FROM SCRATCH into any other existing
> language, would be easier than updating it to the same language which mad
wishes but not free to force others to
help him when it is not in their interest.
-Original Message-
From: Python-list On
Behalf Of Chris Angelico
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 1:37 AM
To: Python
Subject: Re: python documentation
On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 4:20 PM wrote:
>
> Chris,
&
On 2021-03-27 19:02, pyt...@blackward.eu wrote:
You say: "The point is that there are those who use Python 2 and don't
want to move to Python 3, claiming that it's easier to switch from
Python 2 to some other language than from Python 2 to Python 3. That's
what seems questionable."
And I say, fo
You say: "The point is that there are those who use Python 2 and don't
want to move to Python 3, claiming that it's easier to switch from
Python 2 to some other language than from Python 2 to Python 3. That's
what seems questionable."
And I say, forcing people to do things they do not want to
On 2021-03-27 17:03, pyt...@blackward.eu wrote:
You write, that "Everyone claims that it's easier to move to some other
language rather than to migrate to Python 3".
Thank you for sharing this remarkable information!
You've quoted him partially and incorrectly. He said "Everyone claims
that it
On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 4:03 AM wrote:
>
> You write, that "Everyone claims that it's easier to move to some other
> language rather than to migrate to Python 3".
>
> Thank you for sharing this remarkable information!
>
Yep. Plenty of people have claimed that. And guess what? They mostly
end up d
On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 9:56 AM wrote:
> May I ask, do you have any knowledge or even experience about if resp.
> how good Tauthon and Pypy2 works together with Qt 4.8?
>
I've never used Qt. I do my GUI's with PyGOBject.
I've moved all of my personal code that I care about from Python 2.x to
3
You write, that "Everyone claims that it's easier to move to some other
language rather than to migrate to Python 3".
Thank you for sharing this remarkable information!
On 2021-03-27 06:36, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 4:20 PM wrote:
Chris,
you seem to imply, that I ha
Hi Dan,
thank you very much for your kind hints - quite interesting idea to have
a more detailed look into this direction!
By the way, your response was the very first here, which I consider to
have a constructive notion; at least I did not felt very welcome here by
Chris until yet...
In
On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 5:01 PM Dan Stromberg wrote:
>
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 10:37 PM Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 4:20 PM wrote:
>> > By the way, some months ago I started trying to migrate to Python 3 and
>> > gave up in favor of creating said compilation. Compatibil
On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 10:37 PM Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 4:20 PM wrote:
> > By the way, some months ago I started trying to migrate to Python 3 and
> > gave up in favor of creating said compilation. Compatibility of Python
> > and its Packages decreased with V3 significan
On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 4:20 PM wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
> you seem to imply, that I have compiled said versions without reason and
> that the same would be possible on basis of Python 3 - which is simply
> not true. Maybe you are not enough acquainted with Qt and belonging
> libraries alike PyQtGraph.
Chris,
you seem to imply, that I have compiled said versions without reason and
that the same would be possible on basis of Python 3 - which is simply
not true. Maybe you are not enough acquainted with Qt and belonging
libraries alike PyQtGraph. Maybe you are just not willing to see /
accept
On 2021-03-27 03:44, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 2:15 PM wrote:
[snip]
By the way, there is more, Blythooon offers beyond what I already have
written in the last email. Otherwise please name me another comparable
MINIMAL 'distribution', which is compiled specifically for sc
On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 2:15 PM wrote:
>
> No, I am not encouraging, I am just offering the possibility.
>
> Python and its community once was not dogmatic. At least this was my
> impression when I started - after all Python originally had been
> designed to be multi paradigmatic. This spirit of f
No, I am not encouraging, I am just offering the possibility.
Python and its community once was not dogmatic. At least this was my
impression when I started - after all Python originally had been
designed to be multi paradigmatic. This spirit of freedom was one mayor
reason for Python to grow
On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 7:49 AM wrote:
>
> Hi Chris,
>
>
> thank you for your interest and thanks for asking.
>
>
> Blythooon is notable due to several reasons; let's compare it with some
> of the already listed (and thus obviously notable) 'distributions':
>
> 2) winpython seems not to support Py
Sorry, copy & paste obviously failed, here is the link I wanted to
include:
https://www.anaconda.com/terms-of-service
On 2021-03-26 17:33, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 3:31 AM wrote:
Howdy Folks,
I would like to suggest adding "Blythooon" to the list under "Other
partie
Hi Chris,
thank you for your interest and thanks for asking.
Blythooon is notable due to several reasons; let's compare it with some
of the already listed (and thus obviously notable) 'distributions':
1) pythonxy seems not to be maintained anymore - the last version I
found is from 2015.
On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 3:31 AM wrote:
>
> Howdy Folks,
>
>
> I would like to suggest adding "Blythooon" to the list under "Other
> parties have re-packaged CPython" listed here:
>
What makes it notable?
ChrisA
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Archana Pandey wrote:
[...]
> A = a + 1 and a += 1 both behave in same way for all data types except
> python Lists
I cannot think of any other mutable data type that supports + but there are
mutable data types that support other augmented assignment operators:
py> a = set("abcd")
py> b = a #
On 25/11/2014 11:44, Archana Pandey wrote:
Hello
I hereby would like to share the problem I have faced regarding python
list implementation :-
As per python documentation python list is mutable data object.
The problem I found with the list is that is behaves differently when we
use ‘+=’ and ‘
On 11/02/2010 02:42 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> However, there is a Python wiki. It doesn't get anywhere near as much
> love as it deserves, and (I think) the consensus was that the official
> Python docs should stay official, but link to the wiki for user-
> contributed content. This hasn't ha
In message , Cameron
Simpson wrote:
> But its weakness is stuff like this:
>
> http://epydoc.sourceforge.net/stdlib/Canvas.Polygon-class.html
>
> Automatic docness, no useful information.
But it Conforms to Documentation-Production Metrics as decreed by the
Corporate Task Force on Policy. S
On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 08:03:37 +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> On 02Nov2010 04:23, jk wrote: | This
> (http://epydoc.sourceforge.net/stdlib/) is what I'm talking | about.
> |
> | Why aren't the official docs like this, and why has it taken me 2 days
> | of searching? All this needs is a search engi
On 02Nov2010 04:23, jk wrote:
| This (http://epydoc.sourceforge.net/stdlib/) is what I'm talking
| about.
|
| Why aren't the official docs like this, and why has it taken me 2 days
| of searching? All this needs is a search engine behind it and it'd be
| perfect.
It looks a lot like javadoc. But
On 02Nov2010 03:42, jk wrote:
| I've been coding in PHP and Java for years, and their documentation is
| concise, well structured and easy to scan.
While I agree about Java, at least the core Java docs, and javadoc
output in general (_great_ cross referencing!) I have mixed feelings
about the PHP
Steven D'Aprano writes:
> On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 03:42:22 -0700, jk wrote:
>> The former is difficult to find (try searching for 'open' in the search
>> box and see what you get).
>
> A fair point -- the built-in open comes up as hit #30, whereas searching
> for open in the PHP page brings up fopen a
On Nov 2, 11:06 pm, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message
> , jk
> wrote:
>
> > This (http://epydoc.sourceforge.net/stdlib/) is what I'm talking
> > about.
>
> Framesets? Is that really your idea of well-laid-out documentation? Using a
> feature which has been derided (and dropped in HTML5) beca
In message , Dennis Lee
Bieber wrote:
> Whereas I have a whole shelf of Java documentation and it still
> takes me an hour to write "Hello World"... Java's one class per file
> results in a plethora of bloody names one has to remember just to find
> out where to start looking for a standard libra
AD i agree with you! The official python tutorial and the official
docs are pretty much a twisted mass of confusion to the initiated
programmer. Even today when i try yo search the docs i find the result
quite frankly useless. And the search reminds me of the old XP "puppy
dog" search. The doc AR
My 2c:
I use the ActiveState distro, and it's winhelp doco. It's generally ok
and some things, like Dive Into Python, I've found excellent.
But I do quite regularly find myself cursing at the vagueness of the
index, and some of the content seems to require that you know it before
you read i
In message <2010110223050345181-nizum...@mcnuggetscom>, Nizumzen wrote:
> On 2010-11-02 10:42:22 +, jk said:
>
>> I've been coding in PHP and Java for years, and their documentation is
>> concise, well structured and easy to scan.
>
> Are you mad? Javadoc is one of the worst examples of sour
>
>>
>> Therefore, if you truly want changes in the documentation, I suggest that,
>> rather then whining to the group, you make some of the changes yourself.
>
> I agree up to here, with a different interpretation of the last clause.
> Work within the existing system. There are currently 250 o
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Nizumzen wrote:
> Are you mad? Javadoc is one of the worst examples of source code
> documentation I can possibly imagine. I would go as far to say that the
> Python guys should do exactly the opposite of Javadoc.
For what it's worth, I concur.
cheers
James
--
On Nov 3, 7:43 am, Tim Harig wrote:
> On 2010-11-02, jk wrote:
>
> > As for the 9 paragraphs statement, there's a usability book that
> > applies here - it's called "Don't make me think". I shouldn't have to
>
> Anything that promotes a lack of thinking sends up red flags in my head.
> We want to
In message
, jk
wrote:
> This (http://epydoc.sourceforge.net/stdlib/) is what I'm talking
> about.
Framesets? Is that really your idea of well-laid-out documentation? Using a
feature which has been derided (and dropped in HTML5) because of its effect
on usability and accessibility?
--
http:/
On 2010-11-02 10:42:22 +, jk said:
Hi,
I've been coding in PHP and Java for years, and their documentation is
concise, well structured and easy to scan.
Are you mad? Javadoc is one of the worst examples of source code
documentation I can possibly imagine. I would go as far to say that th
On 11/2/2010 2:43 PM, Tim Harig wrote:
The real question is what do you want to gain by your posts here. You
should already know that most groups are, by their very nature, slow to
make changes to the status quo. The problem tends to be exasperated in
open source projects where any changes mea
On 03/11/10 05:04, John Nagle wrote:
>Right. Google does a far better job of organizing Python's
> documentation than the Python community does. I don't even try
> looking up anything starting at Python.org; I always start
> with a Google search. Even though Python.org's search is
> powered
On Nov 2, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Ian wrote:
> On 02/11/2010 14:47, jk wrote:
>> I think the key difference is that I don't want to have to *read*
>> the
>> python docs - I want to be able to scan for what I'm looking for and
>> find it easily. That makes me productive.
>>
> Hi jk,
>
> I totally a
On 11/2/2010 7:53 AM, Paul Rudin wrote:
Steven D'Aprano writes:
A fair point -- the built-in open comes up as hit #30, whereas searching
for open in the PHP page brings up fopen as hit #1. But the PHP search
also brings up many, many hits -- ten pages worth.
OTOH googling for "python open"
On Nov 2, 8:47 am, jk wrote:
> You're right in that the python docs in this case are less lines, but
> that's one of the problems. It doesn't mention anywhere the extra
> detail you've added regarding exceptions thrown. That's the kind of
> thing that probably comes through experience or some kind
On 2010-11-02, jk wrote:
> As for the 9 paragraphs statement, there's a usability book that
> applies here - it's called "Don't make me think". I shouldn't have to
Anything that promotes a lack of thinking sends up red flags in my head.
We want to recruit smart people who think, not idiots.
> go
On 02/11/2010 14:47, jk wrote:
I think the key difference is that I don't want to have to*read* the
python docs - I want to be able to scan for what I'm looking for and
find it easily. That makes me productive.
Hi jk,
I totally agree. But you will get nowhere.
A few weeks back I complained th
On 11/2/2010 6:42 AM, jk wrote:
Compare for instance the differences in ease of use, and speed of use,
of these:
http://docs.python.org/library/functions.html#open
http://uk.php.net/manual/en/function.fopen.php
The former is difficult to find (try searching for 'open' in the
search box and see
jk a écrit :
Hi,
I've been coding in PHP and Java for years, and their documentation is
concise, well structured and easy to scan.
Others have mentioned this apparently for years (see:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4046166/easy-to-navigate-online-python-reference-manual/4070851
and http://
Steven D'Aprano writes:
> A fair point -- the built-in open comes up as hit #30, whereas searching
> for open in the PHP page brings up fopen as hit #1. But the PHP search
> also brings up many, many hits -- ten pages worth.
>
OTOH googling for "python open" gives you the correct (for 2.7) pag
On Nov 2, 1:42 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> It's always difficult to know how much information is too much. The PHP
> docs seem to take an "everything including the kitchen sink" approach.
> Given that approach, it makes sense to divide everything into
> subsections, one page per function. But wit
On 2010-11-02, brf...@gmail.com wrote:
> A tutorial type book can also be great for reference and
> documentation (as long as its current). I would recommend a
> non-programmers tutorial to python even if you have started
> programming in other languages before. Also its a wiki book and is
> free
On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 03:42:22 -0700, jk wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've been coding in PHP and Java for years, and their documentation is
> concise, well structured and easy to scan.
Well, that's one opinion.
> Others have mentioned this apparently for years (see:
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/40
On Nov 2, 11:49 am, Tim Golden wrote:
> But why do you imagine that the core
> Python documentation -- developed and maintained by a group of people
> who clearly have some idea what they're doing -- should change to a
> format which happens to suit you?
It's not just me who's found the current d
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 04:23:49 -0700 (PDT)
jk wrote:
> This (http://epydoc.sourceforge.net/stdlib/) is what I'm talking
> about.
>
> Why aren't the official docs like this, and why has it taken me 2 days
> of searching?
What's wrong with this:
http://docs.python.org/library/
?
If you have specific
On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 04:23 -0700, jk wrote:
> This (http://epydoc.sourceforge.net/stdlib/) is what I'm talking
> about.
Aaaarrr
> Why aren't the official docs like this,
Because not everyone likes documentation like that. Personally I far
prefer the existing documentation to the JavaDoc-s
A tutorial type book can also be great for reference and documentation (as long
as its current). I would recommend a non-programmers tutorial to python even if
you have started programming in other languages before. Also its a wiki book
and is free.
-Braden Faulkner
Sent wirelessly from my Bla
On 11/02/10 10:42, jk wrote:
Is there much chance that the Python maintainers will change their
documentation system to make it more like Java or PHP? How would I go
about trying to make that happen?
I am by no means an authority however since you ask it here I feel
compelled to give you my opi
On 02/11/2010 11:23, jk wrote:
This (http://epydoc.sourceforge.net/stdlib/) is what I'm talking
about.
Why aren't the official docs like this, and why has it taken me 2 days
of searching? All this needs is a search engine behind it and it'd be
perfect.
I'm glad you find the epydoc format usefu
This (http://epydoc.sourceforge.net/stdlib/) is what I'm talking
about.
Why aren't the official docs like this, and why has it taken me 2 days
of searching? All this needs is a search engine behind it and it'd be
perfect.
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If you are really beginner in python you can look into the dive into
python,search as in google as the same its quite helpful for beginners.Also
you can go for the byte of python.
CHEERS
CNA
9986229891
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 4:42 PM, jk wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've been coding in PHP and Java for yea
On Mar 20, 12:32 am, Steve Holden wrote:
> Steve Holden wrote:
> > Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
> >> On Mar 17, 6:41 pm, Andrej Mitrovic
> >> wrote:
> >>> Hi,
>
> >>> What happened to the sidebar on the left of the documentation website?
> >>> It seems to be gone:
>
> >>>http://docs.python.org/py3k/ind
Steve Holden wrote:
> Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
>> On Mar 17, 6:41 pm, Andrej Mitrovic
>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> What happened to the sidebar on the left of the documentation website?
>>> It seems to be gone:
>>>
>>> http://docs.python.org/py3k/index.html
>>>
>>> I found it quite useful since I can q
Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
> On Mar 17, 6:41 pm, Andrej Mitrovic
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> What happened to the sidebar on the left of the documentation website?
>> It seems to be gone:
>>
>> http://docs.python.org/py3k/index.html
>>
>> I found it quite useful since I can quickly swap between Python2/3
>>
On Mar 17, 6:41 pm, Andrej Mitrovic
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> What happened to the sidebar on the left of the documentation website?
> It seems to be gone:
>
> http://docs.python.org/py3k/index.html
>
> I found it quite useful since I can quickly swap between Python2/3
> documentation, and between other pa
On Aug 10, 12:53 pm, Roy Hyunjin Han
wrote:
> Are there issues with the python documentation servers?http://docs.python.org/
> The site has been really slow to respond all weekend.
try this thread
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/052368a71f2a8ad2/929bd74bd203c6
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have been learning python for some time using the dive into python
book. I am interested to know if anyone can recommend a book which
covers more advanced topics like threading and potentially GUI style
coding
If you don't at least browse "The Python Cookbook," you
On May 2, 4:34 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have been learning python for some time using the dive into python
> book. I am interested to know if anyone can recommend a book which
> covers more advanced topics like threading and potentially GUI style
> coding.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ronald
Steven Bethard wrote:
> Colin J. Williams wrote:
>
>> Doc strings provide us with a great opportunity to illuminate our code.
>>
>> In the example below, __init__ refers us to the class's documentation,
>> but the class doc doesn't help much.
>
>
> It doesn't?
>
> >>> print list.__doc__
> list
Steven Bethard wrote:
> Colin J. Williams wrote:
>> Doc strings provide us with a great opportunity to illuminate our code.
>>
>> In the example below, __init__ refers us to the class's documentation,
>> but the class doc doesn't help much.
>
> It doesn't?
>
> >>> print list.__doc__
> list() ->
Colin J. Williams wrote:
> Doc strings provide us with a great opportunity to illuminate our code.
>
> In the example below, __init__ refers us to the class's documentation,
> but the class doc doesn't help much.
It doesn't?
>>> print list.__doc__
list() -> new list
list(sequence) -> new list i
In comp.lang.perl.misc Xah Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i wanted to find out if Python supports eval. e.g.
> somecode='3+4'
> print eval(somecode) # prints 7
> in the 14 hundred pages of python doc, where am i supposed to find this
> info?
By using the index - it's an alphabetical list of
Xah Lee wrote:
> i wanted to find out if Python supports eval. e.g.
>
> somecode='3+4'
> print eval(somecode) # prints 7
>
> in the 14 hundred pages of python doc, where am i supposed to find
> this info?
Why are you asking in a Perl NG for information about Python?
Or are you also asking your bac
Xah Lee wrote:
> Python documentation,
> [...] Python Reference Manual for more information.
> [...] python doc wasted my time. [...] python coders.
> [...] use python doc
> python community [...] coding in python.
[Sexual explicatives deleted]
And this outburst has exactly _what_ to do with Perl
On 2005-06-18, Xah Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> Fuck the python doc wasted my time. Fuck python coders. Each
> time i tried to use python doc and got frustrated because it
> being grossly incompetent, i'll post a message like this, no
> more frequent than once a week. This will go on as
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:02:07 +0200, Kalle Anke wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:49:38 +0200, Xah Lee wrote
> (in article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>):
>
>> the problem is that the page essentially says nothing. Nothing that is
>> relevant to programing, and such nothingness occupies a significant
>> porti
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:49:38 +0200, Xah Lee wrote
(in article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>):
> the problem is that the page essentially says nothing. Nothing that is
> relevant to programing, and such nothingness occupies a significant
> portion of the python doc. (at least a quarter) It is like reading a
> what is wrong with python doc
> http://python.org/doc/2.4.1/lib/typesfunctions.html
the problem is that the page essentially says nothing. Nothing that is
relevant to programing, and such nothingness occupies a significant
portion of the python doc. (at least a quarter) It is like reading a
manu
Also sprach Xah Lee:
> i wanted to find out if Python supports eval. e.g.
>
> somecode='3+4'
> print eval(somecode) # prints 7
>
> in the 14 hundred pages of python doc, where am i supposed to find this
> info?
You are not going to find it in comp.lang.perl.misc.
Tassilo
--
use bigint;
$n=71423
Apparently i tried it before posting
eval '3'
and got misleading errors because i forgot the parenthesis...
This is a easy one to find in the doc...
The unhelpful doc organization and past experiences confounded this
case.
Thanks.
Xah
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
∑ http://xahlee.org/
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http://mail.pyt
Xah Lee wrote:
> i wanted to find out if Python supports eval. e.g.
>
> somecode='3+4'
> print eval(somecode) # prints 7
>
> in the 14 hundred pages of python doc, where am i supposed to find this
> info?
>
Option 1: As they say in the classics, "Suck it and see".
If you want to find out if som
Xah Lee said unto the world upon 18/06/2005 04:11:
> i wanted to find out if Python supports eval. e.g.
>
> somecode='3+4'
> print eval(somecode) # prints 7
>
> in the 14 hundred pages of python doc, where am i supposed to find this
> info?
>
> Xah
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ∑ http://xahlee.org/
>
Xah Lee said unto the world upon 18/06/2005 03:49:
> Python documentation,
> http://python.org/doc/2.4.1/lib/typesfunctions.html
>
> -
> 2.3.10.3 Functions
>
> Function objects are created by function definitions. The only
> operation on a function object is to call it: func(argu
i wanted to find out if Python supports eval. e.g.
somecode='3+4'
print eval(somecode) # prints 7
in the 14 hundred pages of python doc, where am i supposed to find this
info?
Xah
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
∑ http://xahlee.org/
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Xah Lee wrote:
> Fuck the python doc wasted my time. Fuck python coders.
Use your words!
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Overall organization is definitely an issue, at least for newer users.
As an occasional python user I remain constantly in a mode of having to
look up basic terminology for examples and exact spelling of terms in
order to knock out a quick script. I feel very much like Mr. Bottaro
that the docs, w
bruno modulix a écrit :
>
> I fail to see why would it would be better to have to open a browser, go
> to python.org, go to the doc, find the right link etc instead of just
> typing dir(xxx) and/or help(xxx).
>
I fully agree with you. I just suspect that you are not more than me a
web develo
Greg Ewing wrote:
> Curiously I had the same problem just the other day,
> except with list instead of string. I think the problem
> is that the sections on the actual built-in types
> (list, str, dict, etc.) are one level too far down
> to appear in the table of contents of the Library
> Referenc
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Greg Ewing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Curiously I had the same problem just the other day, except with list
>instead of string. I think the problem is that the sections on the
>actual built-in types (list, str, dict, etc.) are one level too far
>down to appear in
"Christopher J. Bottaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
By the way, did you try the .chm?
John
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"Christopher J. Bottaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
> At my work, we are developing a product from scratch. It is completely
> modular and the modules communicate via SOAP. Because of that, we can
> implement individual modules in any language of our choosing (so long as
> they have good S
Greg Ewing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Ivan Van Laningham wrote:
> > Hi All--
> > The Python docs are not ideal. I can never remember, for instance,
> > where to find string methods (not methods in the string module, but
> > methods with '')
>
> Curiously I had the same problem just the other
Ivan Van Laningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi All--
> The Python docs are not ideal. I can never remember, for instance,
> where to find string methods (not methods in the string module, but
> methods with ''), but I can remember a tortured path to get me there
[...]
The answer to 80% of "
bruno> I fail to see why would it would be better to have to open a
bruno> browser, go to python.org, go to the doc, find the right link etc
bruno> instead of just typing dir(xxx) and/or help(xxx).
Actually, you frequently don't even have to enter the Python interpreter.
Executing "py
Ivan Van Laningham a écrit :
(snip)
> BTW, my "tortured method" is quicker than Bruno's, because to use his
> method I'd have to start the interactive interpreter.
>
"start the interactive interpreter" ??? What do you mean, "start the
interactive interpreter" ??? It's *always* started as a part
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