Re: Python IDE.

Spyder El 20/11/14 a las 18:47, TP escibió: On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Irmen de Jong mailto:irmen.nos...@xs4all.nl>> wrote: PyCharm *is* free, if you fall in one of several categories. See http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/buy/license-matrix.jsp Even when you have to buy it

Re: Python IDE.

On 20/11/2014 19:01, dvenkatj2ee...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone suggest a good python IDE. I'm very happy with Eclipse -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python IDE.

On 2014-11-20 21:54, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > VIM in one window for editing, and a bare command line for test > execution in another (I'm sure VIM probably has a way to invoke a > command line, It can be done, but (without an unofficial patch) it's modal, so most of us vi/vim users prefer to hos

Re: Python IDE.

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > dvenkatj2ee...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Can someone suggest a good python IDE. > > Yes. Use a UNIX or Linux system: > > http://blog.sanctum.geek.nz/series/unix-as-ide/ My IDE is Xfce, with a bunch of plugins called SciTE, Google Chrome, xfce

Re: Python IDE.

dvenkatj2ee...@gmail.com wrote: > Can someone suggest a good python IDE. Yes. Use a UNIX or Linux system: http://blog.sanctum.geek.nz/series/unix-as-ide/ -- Steven -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python IDE.

On 2014-11-20, dvenkatj2ee...@gmail.com wrote: > Can someone suggest a good python IDE. Sure: emacs, bash, grep, et alia. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Hello? Enema Bondage? at I'm calling because I want

Re: Python IDE.

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Irmen de Jong wrote: > PyCharm *is* free, if you fall in one of several categories. > See http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/buy/license-matrix.jsp > > Even when you have to buy it, it is cheap (IMO) for what it offers. > "PyCharm Editions Comparison" [1] is a bet

RE: Python IDE.

today. It is somewhere between pro and community I think. Clayton >-Original Message- >From: Python-list [mailto:python-list- >bounces+crk=godblessthe...@python.org] On Behalf Of Larry Martell >Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 11:09 AM >To: python-list@python.org >Subje

Re: Python IDE.

On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 11:19:23 -0800, dvenkatj2eedev wrote: > On Thursday, November 20, 2014 2:09:24 PM UTC-5, larry@gmail.com > wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 2:01 PM, wrote: >> > Can someone suggest a good python IDE. >> >> PyCharm, but it's not free. > > If you can tell me a free one,

Re: Python IDE.

On 11/20/2014 12:01 PM, dvenkatj2ee...@gmail.com wrote: > Can someone suggest a good python IDE. I'm sure Google can reveal many options and opinions on the matter. Personally I don't find IDEs that useful with Python. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python IDE.

On 20-11-2014 20:19, dvenkatj2ee...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, November 20, 2014 2:09:24 PM UTC-5, larry@gmail.com wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 2:01 PM, wrote: >>> Can someone suggest a good python IDE. >> >> PyCharm, but it's not free. > > If you can tell me a free one, that will

Re: Python IDE.

On Thursday, November 20, 2014 2:09:24 PM UTC-5, larry@gmail.com wrote: > On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 2:01 PM, wrote: > > Can someone suggest a good python IDE. > > PyCharm, but it's not free. If you can tell me a free one, that will be great. I was looking at the following document, which st

Re: Python IDE.

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 2:01 PM, wrote: > Can someone suggest a good python IDE. PyCharm, but it's not free. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: python IDE and function definition

Chris Friesen writes: > I'm running into issues where my current IDE (I'm playing with Komodo) > can't seem to locate the definition, I suspect because it's too > ambiguous. The feature you're looking for – to start from the statement where a function is called, then jump to the statement where

Re: python IDE and function definition

On Sep 23, 2013, at 8:06 AM, Chris Friesen wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm looking for a python IDE (for Linux) that can look at code like this: > > class ConductorManager(manager.Manager): >def compute_recover(self, context, instance): >self.compute_api.stop(context, instance, do_cast

Re: python IDE and function definition

On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Neil Hodgson wrote: > Chris Friesen: > > > where I could highlight the "stop" and ask it to go to the definition. >> (Where the definition is in a different file.) >> >> I'm running into issues where my current IDE (I'm playing with Komodo) >> can't seem to locat

Re: python IDE and function definition

Chris Friesen: where I could highlight the "stop" and ask it to go to the definition. (Where the definition is in a different file.) I'm running into issues where my current IDE (I'm playing with Komodo) can't seem to locate the definition, I suspect because it's too ambiguous. Some IDEs

Re: python IDE and function definition

On 09/23/2013 09:32 AM, Fabio Zadrozny wrote: On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Chris Friesen mailto:cbf...@mail.usask.ca>> wrote: Hi all, I'm looking for a python IDE (for Linux) that can look at code like this: class ConductorManager(manager.__Manager): def compute_

Re: python IDE and function definition

On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Chris Friesen wrote: > On 09/23/2013 09:32 AM, Fabio Zadrozny wrote: > >> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Chris Friesen > > wrote: >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> I'm looking for a python IDE (for Linux) that can look at code like >>

Re: python IDE and function definition

On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Chris Friesen wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm looking for a python IDE (for Linux) that can look at code like this: > > class ConductorManager(manager.**Manager): > def compute_recover(self, context, instance): > self.compute_api.stop(context, instance, do_

Re: Python IDE/Eclipse

I recommend PyCharm. Best Python IDE ever :-) If you can't afford to pay for it in the long run, then PyDev is the next best bet. I would recommend downloading the most minimal Eclipse you can get (Usually the Eclipse RCP Runtime) and install the necessary plugins as you go. This prevents you from

Re: Python IDE/Eclipse

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Dave Boland wrote: > I'm looking for a good IDE -- easy to setup, easy to use -- for Python.  Any > suggestions? > > I use Eclipse for other projects and have no problem with using it for > Python, except that I can't get PyDev to install.  It takes forever, then

Re: Python IDE/Eclipse

Editra On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 5:56 PM, flebber wrote: > On Aug 27, 6:34 pm, UncleLaz wrote: >> On Aug 26, 5:18 pm, Dave Boland wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I'm looking for a good IDE -- easy to setup, easy to use -- for Python. >> >   Any suggestions? >> >> > I use Eclipse for other

Re: Python IDE/Eclipse

On Aug 27, 6:34 pm, UncleLaz wrote: > On Aug 26, 5:18 pm, Dave Boland wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I'm looking for a good IDE -- easy to setup, easy to use -- for Python. > >   Any suggestions? > > > I use Eclipse for other projects and have no problem with using it for > > Python, except that I

Re: Python IDE/Eclipse

On Aug 26, 5:18 pm, Dave Boland wrote: > I'm looking for a good IDE -- easy to setup, easy to use -- for Python. >   Any suggestions? > > I use Eclipse for other projects and have no problem with using it for > Python, except that I can't get PyDev to install.  It takes forever, > then produces an

Re: Python IDE/Eclipse

Dave Boland wrote: > I'm looking for a good IDE -- easy to setup, easy to use -- for Python. > Any suggestions? PyDev (currently 2.2.1.2011073123, from the Aptana Studio 3.0.4 Plugin; but I can see that 2.2.2 has been released). > I use Eclipse for other projects and have no problem with usin

Re: Python IDE/Eclipse

You can get a lot done, if not everything, with a simple editor however for me an IDE is awesome for digging around in the django internals to see how it all works. I used PyDev initially then onto emacs but finally I settled on PyCharm - it's just like PyDev except that everything works.

Re: Python IDE/Eclipse

On Aug 26, 2011 11:39 AM, "Moises Alberto Lindo Gutarra" wrote: > > I like Aptana Studio > http://www.aptana.com/products/studio3 > FYI, Aptana is just a set of extensions for Eclipse. Aptana Studio is just Eclipse with all of the Aptana extensions (including PyDev) preinstalled. > 2011/8/26 Dav

Re: Python IDE/Eclipse

I like Aptana Studio http://www.aptana.com/products/studio3 2011/8/26 Dave Boland : > I'm looking for a good IDE -- easy to setup, easy to use -- for Python.  Any > suggestions? > > I use Eclipse for other projects and have no problem with using it for > Python, except that I can't get PyDev to in

Re: Python IDE/Eclipse

I've honestly always used either PyDev or IDLE. However, Python is pretty easy to usd without a big IDE slowing you down, so you could also use a developer's text editor like Notepad++ or gedit and still be good. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Make Python "portable" by default! (Re: Python IDE/text-editor)

On Apr 17, 7:13 pm, Wolfgang Keller wrote: > > You can't run Python programs without a Python interpreter installed. > > Wrong. > > See e.g.http://www.portablepython.com/ In this case Python is still installed on the machine. It may not be installled on the PC's hard disk but it is certainly is

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

On Apr 16, 5:20 am, Alec Taylor wrote: > Good Afternoon, > > I'm looking for an IDE which offers syntax-highlighting, > code-completion, tabs, an embedded interpreter and which is portable > (for running from USB on Windows). > > Here's a mockup of the app I'm looking for:http://i52.tinypic.com/2u

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

Pydev for eclipse/aptana On Saturday, May 7, 2011, emato wrote: > >> On Apr 16, 1:20 pm, Alec Taylor wrote: >> >>> I'm looking for an IDE which offers syntax-highlighting, >>> code-completion, tabs, > > gedit > > http://projects.gnome.org/gedit/index.html > > > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailma

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

> On Apr 16, 1:20 pm, Alec Taylor wrote: > >> I'm looking for an IDE which offers syntax-highlighting, >> code-completion, tabs, gedit http://projects.gnome.org/gedit/index.html -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

No thanks, it's shareware, doesn't included embedded python interpreter out-of-the-box, and isn't portable. On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:39 PM, JussiJ wrote: > On Apr 16, 1:20 pm, Alec Taylor wrote: > >> I'm looking for an IDE which offers syntax-highlighting, >> code-completion, tabs, > > The Zeus

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

On Apr 16, 1:20 pm, Alec Taylor wrote: > I'm looking for an IDE which offers syntax-highlighting, > code-completion, tabs, The Zeus editor does offers all these features: http://www.zeusedit.com/ Zeus is also scriptable and Zeus scripts can be written in Python. Zeus also does Python smar

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

!!! =] http://code.google.com/p/fooide Contact me if you'd like to join the project :D On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:39 AM, Yico Gaga wrote: >   foolDE :)!!! > > 2011/4/29 Alec Taylor >> >> Your probably right. >> >> I suppose I'll just wait till I finish my fooIDE project >> >> > On Fri, Apr 29,

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

foolDE :)!!! 2011/4/29 Alec Taylor > Your probably right. > > I suppose I'll just wait till I finish my fooIDE project > > > On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 2:21 AM, Albert van der Horst > > wrote: > >> In article , > >> Alec Taylor wrote: > >>>Geany I've tried in the past, it's really buggy on my

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

Your probably right. I suppose I'll just wait till I finish my fooIDE project > On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 2:21 AM, Albert van der Horst > wrote: >> In article , >> Alec Taylor   wrote: >>>Geany I've tried in the past, it's really buggy on my home computer >>>and at Uni... however from my phone it

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

In article , Alec Taylor wrote: >Geany I've tried in the past, it's really buggy on my home computer >and at Uni... however from my phone it works wonderfully! (Use it for >C++ projects on Rhobuntu) > >Eric 4 was suggested to me on the #python channel on Freenode... >however I've never been able

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

Thanks for all the suggestions, glad I found the right one! You're welcome :D -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

Excellent news everyone! They've released an update for Editra with the bugfix for the issues I submitted. So now PyScripter and Editra do exactly what I need, but since Editra is updated it isn't buggy. =] Editra has tabs (in the right place!), syntax-highlight, shortcuts to run code, embedded

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

* 2011-04-18T21:17:17-07:00 * Westley Martínez wrote: > On Tue, 2011-04-19 at 06:51 +0300, Teemu Likonen wrote: >> * 2011-04-19T00:40:09+10:00 * Alec Taylor wrote: >>> Please continue recommending >> >> Vim. >> >> * 2011-04-19T02:41:11+10:00 * Alec Taylor wrote: >>> Please continue suggesting Py

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

2011/4/19 Alec Taylor : > SPE looks good, however I couldn't get it running (svn'd it). Do you > know if there's an installer? > > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > There are source archives http://pythonide.blogspot.com/2008/02/spe-084c-python-ide-editor-released.html dow

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

On Apr 19, 9:44 am, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 2:37 PM, rusi wrote: > > On Tue, 2011-04-19 at 06:51 +0300, Teemu Likonen wrote: > > emacs * 3 > > > On Apr 19, 9:17 am, Westley Martínez wrote: > > vi * 3 > > > This would be a competition except for viper: > >http://www.emacsw

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

On Apr 19, 9:32 am, Ben Finney wrote: > Alec Taylor writes: > > Please continue with your recommendations. > > At some point you need to act on these recommendations by picking one > for the time being. > > If you're so tight for time, why are you still evaluating editors after > several days of

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 2:37 PM, rusi wrote: > On Tue, 2011-04-19 at 06:51 +0300, Teemu Likonen wrote: > emacs * 3 > > On Apr 19, 9:17 am, Westley Martínez wrote: > vi * 3 > > This would be a competition except for viper: > http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ViperMode > IOW emacs can be morphed into

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

On Tue, 2011-04-19 at 06:51 +0300, Teemu Likonen wrote: emacs * 3 On Apr 19, 9:17 am, Westley Martínez wrote: vi * 3 This would be a competition except for viper: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ViperMode IOW emacs can be morphed into vi -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

Alec Taylor writes: > Please continue with your recommendations. At some point you need to act on these recommendations by picking one for the time being. If you're so tight for time, why are you still evaluating editors after several days of recommendations? Why have you not yet chosen an edit

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

On Tue, 2011-04-19 at 06:51 +0300, Teemu Likonen wrote: > * 2011-04-19T00:40:09+10:00 * Alec Taylor wrote: > > Please continue recommending > > Vim. > > * 2011-04-19T02:41:11+10:00 * Alec Taylor wrote: > > Please continue suggesting Python IDEs and/or fixes for the above > > Cons. > > Vim. > >

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

* 2011-04-19T00:40:09+10:00 * Alec Taylor wrote: > Please continue recommending Emacs. * 2011-04-19T02:41:11+10:00 * Alec Taylor wrote: > Please continue suggesting Python IDEs and/or fixes for the above > Cons. Emacs. * 2011-04-19T13:44:29+10:00 * Alec Taylor wrote: > Please continue with your

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

SPE looks good, however I couldn't get it running (svn'd it). Do you know if there's an installer? Editra has a really active support team, and have addressed all 3 of the bugs I found. (although mostly the bugs were me not knowing how it works!) Code completion would be nice, especially for a be

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

The current finalists: Editra with PyShell in Shelf Pros: Syntax highlighting, tabs, ¿portable? and embedded python interpreter (PyShell 0.8) Cons: No run button or keyboard shortcut for quick running of script (made issue: http://code.google.com/p/editra/issues/detail?id=641) and doesn't save se

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

The current finalists: *Editra* with PyShell in Shelf Pros: Syntax highlighting, tabs, ¿portable? and embedded python interpreter (PyShell 0.8) Cons: No run button or keyboard shortcut for quick running of script (made issue: http://code.google.com/p/editra/issues/detail?id=641) and doesn't save

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

Alec Taylor writes: > > Emacs and vim still seem like good alternatives, when I get the time. > However, currently have 3 assignments to start and finish so would > like a simple Notepad2 with python interpreter attached (and keyboard > shortcut to run script) type program. > > Please continue rec

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

Geany I've tried in the past, it's really buggy on my home computer and at Uni... however from my phone it works wonderfully! (Use it for C++ projects on Rhobuntu) Eric 4 was suggested to me on the #python channel on Freenode... however I've never been able to get it compiled/working. Too many dep

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 13:20:32 +1000, Alec Taylor wrote: >Good Afternoon, > >I'm looking for an IDE which offers syntax-highlighting, >code-completion, tabs, an embedded interpreter and which is portable >(for running from USB on Windows). > >Here's a mockup of the app I'm looking for: http://i52.t

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

Alec Taylor wrote: Good Afternoon, I'm looking for an IDE which offers syntax-highlighting, code-completion, tabs, an embedded interpreter and which is portable (for running from USB on Windows). Here's a mockup of the app I'm looking for: http://i52.tinypic.com/2uojswz.png Which would you rec

Re: Make Python "portable" by default! (Re: Python IDE/text-editor)

On Apr 18, 6:33 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: > > Which part of the word "installed" don't you understand while actually > > using it? >;-> > > I have various programs which I distribute in zip/tgz format, and also > as a self-extracting execu

Re: Make Python "portable" by default! (Re: Python IDE/text-editor)

On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: > Which part of the word "installed" don't you understand while actually > using it? >;-> I have various programs which I distribute in zip/tgz format, and also as a self-extracting executable on Windows. Does this mean they need to be "inst

Re: Make Python "portable" by default! (Re: Python IDE/text-editor)

> >> You can't run Python programs without a Python interpreter > >> installed. > > > > Wrong. > > > > See e.g. http://www.portablepython.com/ > > Uhm... how does that disprove? Which part of the word "installed" don't you understand while actually using it? >;-> > Whatever language you distrib

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

Jorgen Grahn wrote: Based on the comments here, it seems that emacs would have to be the editor-in-chief for programmers. I currently use SciTE at work; is it reasonable to, effectively, bill my employer for the time it'll take me to learn emacs? Editor-in-chief is a bit strong... but many

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

Terry Reedy wrote: IDLE loses syntax highlighting annoyingly often Could you exlain? When does it do that with a file labelled .py? ... never seen this behavior in IDLE with a .py file; not even once. I take that back... there was the time I tried to run IDLE on the mac mini with Apple bu

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

On 04/17/2011 04:19 PM, Ben Finney wrote: No, it's not. Vim is THE way. Clearly there is only one standard text editor, and that's ‘ed’ While it's funny, I'm curious how many folks on c.l.p have done any/much python coding in ed. I've had to do a bit on a router running an embedded Linux t

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

Westley Martínez writes: > On Sat, 2011-04-16 at 23:12 +, Krzysztof Bieniasz wrote: > > Remember, Emacs is THE way. It's the light in the darkness, it'll save > > your soul and bring you happiness. Isn't it worth the trouble? :) […] > > No, it's not. Vim is THE way. Clearly there is only on

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

In http://docs.python.org/using/unix.html#editors you can read: Geany is an excellent IDE with support for a lot of languages. For more information, read: http://geany.uvena.de/ I followed that suggestion, and am very happy with Geany. But I confess that I am not a sophisticated user. Why does no

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

On 16Apr2011 10:59, Jorgen Grahn wrote: | On Sat, 2011-04-16, Alec Taylor wrote: | > Thanks, but non of the IDEs so far suggested have an embedded python | > interpreter AND tabs... | > emacs having the opposite problem, missing tabs (also, | > selecting text with my mouse is something I do often)

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

On Sun, 2011-04-17 at 09:08 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Westley Martínez wrote: > > > > Either way doesn't it require python be installed on the system? > > Most Python development is going to require that... > > I'm rather puzzled by this question; I think I'

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

On Sat, 2011-04-16 at 23:12 +, Krzysztof Bieniasz wrote: > > It takes a day or two to learn emacs. > > > > It takes forever to set it up. > > Remember, Emacs is THE way. It's the light in the darkness, it'll save > your soul and bring you happiness. Isn't it worth the trouble? :) > > Seriou

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

Alec Taylor writes: > Emacs and vim are good, however I often find myself on a workstation > without direct console access. Emacs and vim can also work in a GUI enviroment. > GVim leaves a lot aesthetically desired. Ditto for Emacs. It misses the bling bling. But are you really looking at all

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

Bastian Ballmann writes: > Am Sat, 16 Apr 2011 22:22:19 -0500 > schrieb John Bokma : > >> Yeah, if you bring it down to open a file, save a file, and move the >> cursor around, sure you can do that in a day or two (two since you >> have to get used to the "weird" key bindings). > > Sorry but lear

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

rusi writes: [ Notepad -> Emacs ] > If all one seeks is 'notepad-equivalence' why use any key-binding? > All this basic ('normal') stuff that other editors do, emacs can also > do from menus alone. OK, true. Anyway, I highly doubt anyone using Notepad as an editor is going to switch to Emacs to

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

On Apr 17, 7:09 am, Ben Finney wrote: > Alec Taylor writes: [..] > > whereas nano, and all the text-editors/IDEs above are user-friendly. No they're not 'user-friendly'. They are a user's worst enemy. What's the point of a computer if all you can come up with is a typewriter in disguise? Back

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

Ben Finney writes: > As many others in this thread have said, the learning curve pays off in > access to a powerful general-purpose tool that you can apply to an > enormous range of programming tasks. > > A reason Vim and Emacs survive while so many thousands of other options > rise and fall and

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

Alec Taylor writes: > I've tried all the IDEs/text-editors mentioned. Great! Experimenting with them is valuable if you have the time. > Emacs and vim are good, however I often find myself on a workstation > without direct console access. I don't understand this; both of those (unlike most of

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

Thanks for all the replies (I love the python mailing-list!) I've tried all the IDEs/text-editors mentioned. PyScripter is great, however is unmaintained thus doesn't support 64-bit :[ (and is a little buggy) Also, it requires network connectivity, which could prove troublesome on my locked-down

Re: Make Python "portable" by default! (Re: Python IDE/text-editor)

On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: >> You can't run Python programs without a Python interpreter installed. > > Wrong. > > See e.g. http://www.portablepython.com/ Uhm... how does that disprove? Whatever language you distributed code is in, you need something on the computer t

Make Python "portable" by default! (Re: Python IDE/text-editor)

> You can't run Python programs without a Python interpreter installed. Wrong. See e.g. http://www.portablepython.com/ BTW: Imho, the Python interpreter should be made "portable" ("zero-install") _by default_. "Installing" it should be purely optional. Sincerely, Wolfgang Keller -- http://mai

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

Am Sat, 16 Apr 2011 22:22:19 -0500 schrieb John Bokma : > Yeah, if you bring it down to open a file, save a file, and move the > cursor around, sure you can do that in a day or two (two since you > have to get used to the "weird" key bindings). Sorry but learning the basic stuff doesnt take any l

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Jorgen Grahn wrote: > (That should really be a new job title. Just as there are aerobics > instructors or whatever at the gyms to help you use the equipment > there safely and efficiently, there should be text editor instructors!) You nearly had me crack up laughi

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

On Sat, 2011-04-16, Chris Angelico wrote: > Based on the comments here, it seems that emacs would have to be the > editor-in-chief for programmers. I currently use SciTE at work; is it > reasonable to, effectively, bill my employer for the time it'll take > me to learn emacs? I'm using a lot of the

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

On Apr 17, 8:22 am, John Bokma wrote: > rusi writes: > > On Apr 17, 3:19 am, John Bokma wrote: > >> rusi writes: > >> > On Apr 16, 9:13 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> >> Based on the comments here, it seems that emacs would have to be the > >> >> editor-in-chief for programmers. I currently us

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

rusi writes: > On Apr 17, 3:19 am, John Bokma wrote: >> rusi writes: >> > On Apr 16, 9:13 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >> Based on the comments here, it seems that emacs would have to be the >> >> editor-in-chief for programmers. I currently use SciTE at work; is it >> >> reasonable to, effect

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

On Apr 17, 4:12 am, Krzysztof Bieniasz wrote: > > It takes a day or two to learn emacs. > > > It takes forever to set it up. > > Remember, Emacs is THE way. It's the light in the darkness, it'll save > your soul and bring you happiness. Isn't it worth the trouble? :) > > Seriously though, when I w

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

On Apr 17, 3:19 am, John Bokma wrote: > rusi writes: > > On Apr 16, 9:13 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> Based on the comments here, it seems that emacs would have to be the > >> editor-in-chief for programmers. I currently use SciTE at work; is it > >> reasonable to, effectively, bill my employe

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

> It takes a day or two to learn emacs. > > It takes forever to set it up. Remember, Emacs is THE way. It's the light in the darkness, it'll save your soul and bring you happiness. Isn't it worth the trouble? :) Seriously though, when I was setting my Emacs to work with Python I stumbled upon

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Westley Martínez wrote: > > Either way doesn't it require python be installed on the system? Most Python development is going to require that... I'm rather puzzled by this question; I think I've misunderstood it. You can't run Python programs without a Python int

Re: Python IDE/text-editor

On Sat, 2011-04-16 at 17:14 -0500, John Bokma wrote: > candide writes: > > > Le 16/04/2011 15:50, Adam Tauno Williams a écrit : > > > >> gedit provides a Python interpreter/console 'embedded' in the GUI > >> (provided the plugin is enabled). > >> > > > > > > I agree, cf. this screenshot : > > >

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Chris Angelico writes: > On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Andrea Crotti > wrote: >> That of course is an issue, but since you code in many languages I think >> is really a pretty good investment for your future. >> >> And I don't think that you would be unproductive the first weeks with >> emacs

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rusi writes: > On Apr 16, 9:13 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: >> Based on the comments here, it seems that emacs would have to be the >> editor-in-chief for programmers. I currently use SciTE at work; is it >> reasonable to, effectively, bill my employer for the time it'll take >> me to learn emacs?

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candide writes: > Le 16/04/2011 15:50, Adam Tauno Williams a écrit : > >> gedit provides a Python interpreter/console 'embedded' in the GUI >> (provided the plugin is enabled). >> > > > I agree, cf. this screenshot : > > http://i52.tinypic.com/snj7a0.jpg The name "Terminal" suggests something d

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Le 16/04/2011 15:50, Adam Tauno Williams a écrit : gedit provides a Python interpreter/console 'embedded' in the GUI (provided the plugin is enabled). I agree, cf. this screenshot : http://i52.tinypic.com/snj7a0.jpg but i'm not sure gedit run easily under Windows. Kate editor has the sa

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On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 3:07 AM, Andrea Crotti wrote: > The only language where an IDE like eclipse imho is the only way is > java, but that is because the language sucks so much that without a > massive help is impossible to write something in a human time. (Now OT) I used Eclipse once, and yes

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Here's a mockup of the app I'm looking for: http://i52.tinypic.com/2uojswz.png Which would you recommend? You drew editra! http://editra.org/preview -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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rusi writes: > > It takes a day or two to learn emacs. > > It takes forever to set it up. > > [How many shots of cocaine are are needed to de-addict a cocaine > addict? ] Not to set it up, but surely to master it. There are also many people that didn't really learn elisp but still use emacs taki

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On 4/16/2011 3:03 AM, Alec Taylor wrote: IDLE loses syntax highlighting annoyingly often Could you exlain? When does it do that with a file labelled .py? -- Terry Jan Reedy -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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Chris Angelico writes: > Sure, that was a *slight* exaggeration :) but thanks for the advice. > I'll poke around with it some time. > > ChrisA I also suggest to take a look here, there's a quite nice environment setup for python. https://github.com/gabrielelanaro/emacs-for-python The nice thing

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On Apr 16, 9:13 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: > Based on the comments here, it seems that emacs would have to be the > editor-in-chief for programmers. I currently use SciTE at work; is it > reasonable to, effectively, bill my employer for the time it'll take > me to learn emacs? It takes a day or tw

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On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Andrea Crotti wrote: > That of course is an issue, but since you code in many languages I think > is really a pretty good investment for your future. > > And I don't think that you would be unproductive the first weeks with > emacs, just a bit slower maybe, and it'

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Chris Angelico writes: > Based on the comments here, it seems that emacs would have to be the > editor-in-chief for programmers. I currently use SciTE at work; is it > reasonable to, effectively, bill my employer for the time it'll take > me to learn emacs? I'm using a lot of the same features th

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