Jorgen Grahn wrote:
Based on the comments here, it seems that emacs would have to be the
 editor-in-chief for programmers. I currently use SciTE at work; is it
 reasonable to, effectively, bill my employer for the time it'll take
 me to learn emacs?

Editor-in-chief is a bit strong... but many folks that process text files use nothing else... programming is just one venue where emacs shines.

I learned vi early on at the IBM lab @Rochester back in the very early '90s on the RS6000; IBM's Unix version AIX. Back in the day the machines did not have graphics monitors; rather, they used Info Windows like the 3151 (basically, dumb terminals with RS-232C connection on a short 25 pin cable). So, I became proficient at vi and use it profusely even to this very day... the ESC key is worn out on my keyboard ! (but, I digressed, as usual)

I didn't take the time to learn emacs when I first heard of it because it was presented to me as "just another gui editor" with strange meta key relationships (and besides, I was told, real men use vi).

I didn't try emacs until I got to know RMS (by reading his books, listening to his speeches on-line, interacting on the FSF) and I wanted to know a little bit more about how he ticked... how better than to learn to use the editor he developed. It was then that I realized that this so-called "gui editor" was actually a Lisp environment capable of extension and expansion applicable to all sorts of activities from email to program development. I have been using emacs ever since and loving it too. Yes, I still use vi and always will.

Having said all of that, I was able to learn emacs 2.3 from the built-in tutorial in about an hour (I'm a little slow). Emacs could take a person many years to fully master and appreciate, but the basics come pretty easily for a good hour's effort and a cup of coffee. Learning how to extend its capabilities with Lisp might take a while longer obviously.

Bottom line for my two cents worth here, put emacs in your tool-kit... you'll be glad you did it.


kind regards,
m harris


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