Re: Python in High School

Op Thu, 03 Apr 2008 00:06:34 -0700, schreef Dennis Lee Bieber: > On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 03:37:43 GMT, Jan Claeys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> declaimed > the following in comp.lang.python: > >> Later I learned C (and even later C++), and I've always been wondering >> why those languages were making simple th

Re: Python in High School

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jan Claeys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >There are at least 3 books about game programming in python: > STAY AWAY Speaking as half of the tech-editing team for this book (the formal title

Re: Python in High School

[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : (snip) > I think I agree with all of the positive, supporting posts about > Python. I would just like to add that Python (and PyGame) are open > source And run on most common platforms AFAIK. > and so your students can download it at home and have fun > exploring it on

Re: Python in High School

On Apr 3, 10:17 am, Stef Mientki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Well I doubt it's the visual environment that makes it more easy, > >> color, shape and position can give some extra information though. > >> I think apriori domain knowledge and flattness of information are of far > >> more importanc

Re: Python in High School

On Apr 3, 12:24 pm, ajaksu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 2, 5:01 pm, John Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > However, once I start teaching him variables, expressions, loops, and > > what not, I found that (by surprise) he had great difficulties > > catching on. Not soon after that, we h

Re: Python in High School

On Apr 2, 5:01 pm, John Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, once I start teaching him variables, expressions, loops, and > what not, I found that (by surprise) he had great difficulties > catching on.  Not soon after that, we had to quit. This makes me curious: how much of videogamer are y

Re: Python in High School

On Apr 1, 1:27 pm, sprad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm a high school computer teacher, and I'm starting a series of > programming courses next year (disguised as "game development" classes > to capture more interest). The first year will be a gentle > introduction to programming, leading to two

Re: Python in High School

>> Well I doubt it's the visual environment that makes it more easy, >> color, shape and position can give some extra information though. >> I think apriori domain knowledge and flattness of information are of far >> more importance. >> The first issue is covered quit well by Robolab / Labview, >>

Re: Python in High School

Jan Claeys a écrit : (snip) > I learned about pointers while learning Pascal (and later embedded > assembler) using Borland's tools. > > Later I learned C (and even later C++), and I've always been wondering why > those languages were making simple things so complicated... > Similar pattern he

Re: Python in High School

sprad wrote: > I'm a high school computer teacher, and I'm starting a series of > programming courses next year (disguised as "game development" classes > to capture more interest). The first year will be a gentle > introduction to programming, leading to two more years of advanced > topics. > I

Re: Python in High School

Op Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:02:45 -0400, schreef Dan Upton: > Side rant: I think Java's just fine, as long as it's taught properly. > I'd done a little bit of C and C++ programming when I was in high > school, trying to teach myself from a book, but I never really got > pointers or objects. Going bac

Re: Python in High School

Laurent Pointal wrote: > Le Tue, 01 Apr 2008 12:35:46 -0700, Paddy a écrit : > And if you want to do easy and simple 3D graphics programming, look at > VPython > > http://www.vpython.org/ I offer a _strong_ second -- Nowhere in computing have I seen it easier to create stereoscopic views of 3-D

Re: Python in High School

On Apr 2, 1:32 pm, Stef Mientki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Henry wrote: > > On Apr 1, 11:10 am, sprad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> On Apr 1, 11:41 am, mdomans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> Python needs no evangelizing but I can tell you that it is a powerfull > >>> tool. I prefer t

Re: Python in High School

On Apr 2, 1:01 pm, John Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 1, 11:10 am, sprad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 1, 11:41 am, mdomans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Python needs no evangelizing but I can tell you that it is a powerfull > > > tool. I prefer to think that flash is rat

Re: Python in High School

On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Jan Claeys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Op Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:27:18 -0700, schreef sprad: > > > > I'm a high school computer teacher, and I'm starting a series of > > programming courses next year (disguised as "game development" classes > > to capture more inter

Re: Python in High School

John Henry wrote: > On Apr 1, 11:10 am, sprad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Apr 1, 11:41 am, mdomans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> Python needs no evangelizing but I can tell you that it is a powerfull >>> tool. I prefer to think that flash is rather visualization tool than >>>

Re: Python in High School

On Apr 1, 11:10 am, sprad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 1, 11:41 am, mdomans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Python needs no evangelizing but I can tell you that it is a powerfull > > tool. I prefer to think that flash is rather visualization tool than > > programing language, and java needs

Re: Python in High School

Op Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:27:18 -0700, schreef sprad: > I'm a high school computer teacher, and I'm starting a series of > programming courses next year (disguised as "game development" classes > to capture more interest). The first year will be a gentle introduction > to programming, leading to two

Re: Python in High School

sprad wrote: > I'm a high school computer teacher, and I'm starting a series of > programming courses next year (disguised as "game development" classes > to capture more interest). The first year will be a gentle > introduction to programming, leading to two more years of advanced > topics. > > I

Re: Python in High School

On Apr 1, 12:27 pm, sprad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm a high school computer teacher, and I'm starting a series of > programming courses next year (disguised as "game development" classes > to capture more interest). The first year will be a gentle > introduction to programming, leading to two

Re: Python in High School

On Apr 1, 3:09 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: > sprad a écrit : > > > > > I'm a high school computer teacher, and I'm starting a series of > > programming courses next year (disguised as "game development" classes > > to capture more interest). The first year will be a gentle > > introduction to p

Re: Python in High School

Le Tue, 01 Apr 2008 12:35:46 -0700, Paddy a écrit : > On Apr 1, 6:27 pm, sprad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I want to believe. Evangelize away. > > How proficient are you in Flash/Actionscript? I suggest you try out > Python/Pygame and extrapolate from that, given your available time, > woul

Re: Python in High School

On Apr 1, 6:27 pm, sprad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm a high school computer teacher, and I'm starting a series of > programming courses next year (disguised as "game development" classes > to capture more interest). The first year will be a gentle > introduction to programming, leading to two

Re: Python in High School

sprad a écrit : > On Apr 1, 11:41 am, mdomans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Python needs no evangelizing but I can tell you that it is a powerfull >> tool. I prefer to think that flash is rather visualization tool than >> programing language, and java needs a lot of typing and a lot of >> reading.

Re: Python in High School

On Apr 1, 11:41 am, mdomans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Python needs no evangelizing but I can tell you that it is a powerfull > tool. I prefer to think that flash is rather visualization tool than > programing language, and java needs a lot of typing and a lot of > reading. On the other hand pyth

Re: Python in High School

sprad a écrit : > I'm a high school computer teacher, and I'm starting a series of > programming courses next year (disguised as "game development" classes > to capture more interest). The first year will be a gentle > introduction to programming, leading to two more years of advanced > topics. >

Re: Python in High School

Python needs no evangelizing but I can tell you that it is a powerfull tool. I prefer to think that flash is rather visualization tool than programing language, and java needs a lot of typing and a lot of reading. On the other hand python is simple to read and write, can be debuged easily, is intui

Python in High School

I'm a high school computer teacher, and I'm starting a series of programming courses next year (disguised as "game development" classes to capture more interest). The first year will be a gentle introduction to programming, leading to two more years of advanced topics. I was initially thinking abo