Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-16 Thread TerryP
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > what would be the best python GUI toolkit, it must be cross platform. > > i have tried gtk, but it interface are real bad and its coding was > difficult so i dropped it, > > the only remaining are qt4 and wx, i would like to know if one of these or &

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-04 Thread Chris Mellon
On Feb 4, 2008 10:46 AM, Kevin Walzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chris Mellon wrote: > > > > > I didn't say inherently unable, I said the toolkit doesn't provide it. > > Note that you said that you did a lot of work to follow OS X > > conventions and implement behavior. The toolkit doesn't help y

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-04 Thread Kevin Walzer
Chris Mellon wrote: > > I didn't say inherently unable, I said the toolkit doesn't provide it. > Note that you said that you did a lot of work to follow OS X > conventions and implement behavior. The toolkit doesn't help you with > any of this. A mac-native toolkit (or one that strives for native

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-04 Thread Chris Mellon
On Feb 4, 2008 9:57 AM, Kevin Walzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chris Mellon wrote: > > > Nitpick, but an important one. It emulates *look*. Not feel. Native > > look is easy and totally insufficient for a "native" app - it's the > > feel that's important. > > Is this opinion based on firsthand e

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-04 Thread Kevin Walzer
Chris Mellon wrote: > Nitpick, but an important one. It emulates *look*. Not feel. Native > look is easy and totally insufficient for a "native" app - it's the > feel that's important. Is this opinion based on firsthand experience with use of the Tile/ttk widgets on any of the relevant platforms

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-04 Thread Chris Mellon
On Feb 4, 2008 9:19 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Another toolkit you might look into is Tkinter. I think it is something > > like the "official" toolkit for python. I also think it is an adapter > > for other toolkits, so it will use gtk widgets on gnome, qt widgets on > > kde and some

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-04 Thread bockman
> > Another toolkit you might look into is Tkinter. I think it is something > like the "official" toolkit for python. I also think it is an adapter > for other toolkits, so it will use gtk widgets on gnome, qt widgets on > kde and some other strange widgets on windows. > Not t so, AFAIK. Tkinter

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-04 Thread Nikola Stjelja
On Feb 4, 2008 8:18 AM, David Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2008-02-03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > what would be the best python GUI toolkit, it must be cross platform. > > > > i have tried gtk, but it interface are real bad and

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-04 Thread Eric Brunel
On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:38:41 +0100, Thomas Dybdahl Ahle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > Another toolkit you might look into is Tkinter. I think it is something > like the "official" toolkit for python. I also think it is an adapter > for other toolkits, so it will use gtk widgets on gnome, qt

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-03 Thread David Cook
On 2008-02-03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what would be the best python GUI toolkit, it must be cross platform. > > i have tried gtk, but it interface are real bad and its coding was difficult > so i dropped it, > > the only remaining are qt4 and wx, i w

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-03 Thread Benjamin
On Feb 3, 10:55 am, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2008-02-03, Torsten Bronger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hallöchen! > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > >> [...] > > >> the only remaining are qt4 and wx, i would like to know if one of > >> these or any other toolkit is capable

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-03 Thread Thomas Dybdahl Ahle
On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 15:18 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > what would be the best python GUI toolkit, it must be cross platform. > > i have tried gtk, but it interface are real bad and its coding was difficult > so i dropped it, I came from Sving to Gtk, so for me also i

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-03 Thread Guilherme Polo
2008/2/3, Guilherme Polo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2008/2/3, Thomas Pani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Guilherme Polo wrote: > > > PyQt follows same licensing as Qt, so what licenses does Qt4 supports > > > besides GPL and Qt commercial license ? > > > > Qt4 has a special exception to the GPL, allo

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-03 Thread Guilherme Polo
2008/2/3, Thomas Pani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Guilherme Polo wrote: > > PyQt follows same licensing as Qt, so what licenses does Qt4 supports > > besides GPL and Qt commercial license ? > > Qt4 has a special exception to the GPL, allowing the use of free > software licenses not compatible with th

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-03 Thread miller . paul . w
I'd like to offer you one suggestion about coding your app. You'll be best served if you can either write it as a command-line app and write a separate GUI-front end for it, or use an abstraction layer between your app and the display logic that allows you to easily plug in other GUI toolkits. Th

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-03 Thread Thomas Pani
Guilherme Polo wrote: > PyQt follows same licensing as Qt, so what licenses does Qt4 supports > besides GPL and Qt commercial license ? Qt4 has a special exception to the GPL, allowing the use of free software licenses not compatible with the GPL: http://trolltech.com/products/qt/gplexception/ Che

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-03 Thread miller . paul . w
On Feb 3, 10:39 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > also, is qt4 apps better looking in both win/linux than wx apps, coz the > main thing i m looking for is visual appeal of the gui. Well, well... this wasn't in your original post. I had assumed ease of programming and cross-platform-ness were the on

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-03 Thread Guilherme Polo
2008/2/3, Christian Heimes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Jorge Godoy wrote: > > Qt is a the best choice, IMHO. Nice support, free if you write free > > software, very nice API, nice tools to develop with and the best looking > > widget system for *nix and mobile phones. > > > PyQt4 forces you to eithe

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-03 Thread Christian Heimes
Jorge Godoy wrote: > Qt is a the best choice, IMHO. Nice support, free if you write free > software, very nice API, nice tools to develop with and the best looking > widget system for *nix and mobile phones. PyQt4 forces you to either release your software under GPL or buy a license. Qt3 and Qt4

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-03 Thread Christian Heimes
James Matthews wrote: > Just a side question! > > Does QT support Events from multiple threads without any special calls! > Example when i use WX i have to call wx.CallAfter() Yes, you can send signal across threads with some precaution. Christian -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyt

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-03 Thread James Matthews
Just a side question! Does QT support Events from multiple threads without any special calls! Example when i use WX i have to call wx.CallAfter() Thanks! On Feb 3, 2008 6:05 PM, Jorge Godoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > what i meant was, i tried gtk, didnt like it

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-03 Thread Gary Herron
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > what would be the best python GUI toolkit, it must be cross platform. > > i have tried gtk, but it interface are real bad and its coding was difficult > so i dropped it, > > the only remaining are qt4 and wx, i would like to know if one of these or >

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-03 Thread miller . paul . w
On Feb 3, 10:18 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > what would be the best python GUI toolkit, it must be cross platform. > > i have tried gtk, but it interface are real bad and its coding was difficult > so i dropped it, > [...] If "cross-platform," and "nice API"

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-02-03, Jorge Godoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> And they don't look native on systems that don't use Qt as the >> native widget set. > > But then, there's no toolkit that does. > > GTK based toolkits don't look native on Qt based systems. > Same for a lot of others. Quite true. > What

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-03 Thread Torsten Bronger
Hallöchen! Grant Edwards writes: > On 2008-02-03, Torsten Bronger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hallöchen! >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> >>> [...] >>> >>> the only remaining are qt4 and wx, i would like to know if one >>> of these or any other toolkit is capable of creating >>> good-looking

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-03 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 03/02/2008, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2008-02-03, Torsten Bronger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hallöchen! > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > >> [...] > >> > >> the only remaining are qt4 and wx, i would like to know if one of > >> these or any other toolkit is capable

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-03 Thread Jorge Godoy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > what i meant was, i tried gtk, didnt like it, the main reason was that it > had a very bad gui appeal for me, i did try my hand at wx , and i would > have stuck with it, but then i saw the qt4 screenshot and couple of > examples of its code and i liked it, so i was wonde

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-03 Thread Jorge Godoy
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2008-02-03, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I would recommend Qt, as it is cross-platform and can look native on >> all systems. > > Qt doesn't look native on my system. I run XFCE, and "native" > is GTK. > >> Opera, KDE, GoogleEarth, Acrobat, and lots of o

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-02-03, Torsten Bronger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hallöchen! > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >> [...] >> >> the only remaining are qt4 and wx, i would like to know if one of >> these or any other toolkit is capable of creating good-looking >> GUI's, like in other apps, for e.g, .net apps.

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-02-03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what i meant was, i tried gtk, didnt like it, the main reason was that it > had a very bad gui appeal for me, i did try my hand at wx , and i would have > stuck with it, Wx generally uses GTK on Unix, so if you don't like GTK, then Wx

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-02-03, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would recommend Qt, as it is cross-platform and can look native on > all systems. Qt doesn't look native on my system. I run XFCE, and "native" is GTK. > Opera, KDE, GoogleEarth, Acrobat, and lots of other software > are written in Qt. A

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-03 Thread Torsten Bronger
Hallöchen! [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > [...] > > the only remaining are qt4 and wx, i would like to know if one of > these or any other toolkit is capable of creating good-looking > GUI's, like in other apps, for e.g, .net apps. I think both Qt4 and wx create good-looking GUIs, since Qt4 now tri

Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-03 Thread default
what i meant was, i tried gtk, didnt like it, the main reason was that it had a very bad gui appeal for me, i did try my hand at wx , and i would have stuck with it, but then i saw the qt4 screenshot and couple of examples of its code and i liked it, so i was wondering, if anyone would tell me that

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-03 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 03/02/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what would be the best python GUI toolkit, it must be cross platform. > > i have tried gtk, but it interface are real bad and its coding was difficult > so i dropped it, > > the only remaining are qt4 and wx,

Re: Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-02-03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] was difficult so i dropped it, > [...] > i m a noob, and willing to learn, so difficulty is no problem On the contrary, it appears that difficulty is a problem. ;) -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Ex

Python GUI toolkit

2008-02-03 Thread default
what would be the best python GUI toolkit, it must be cross platform. i have tried gtk, but it interface are real bad and its coding was difficult so i dropped it, the only remaining are qt4 and wx, i would like to know if one of these or any other toolkit is capable of creating good-looking