Go Ahead, Make my PEP... (was: PEP 441 - Improving Python ZIP Application Support)

2015-02-15 Thread Skip Montanaro
>From over yonder, on python-dev... > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Steve Dower > Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 441 - Improving Python ZIP Application Support > > "Go ahead, make my pep." > > We should make a python-dev t-shirt with this o

Re: improving python performance by extension module (64bit)

2010-06-26 Thread geremy condra
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Nobody wrote: > On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:08:27 -0400, geremy condra wrote: > >> I have written Haskell that runs faster than C, and Forth that runs >> faster than C, > > Faster than *what* C, though? Well, than the C it was replacing, which is admittedly not much of

Re: improving python performance by extension module (64bit)

2010-06-26 Thread Nobody
On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:08:27 -0400, geremy condra wrote: > I have written Haskell that runs faster than C, and Forth that runs > faster than C, Faster than *what* C, though? With Haskell, there's seldom a significant performance hit for using -fvia-C, so you would probably have been able to get

Re: improving python performance by extension module (64bit)

2010-06-25 Thread geremy condra
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 25/06/2010 22:25, Stephen Hansen wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Mark >> Lawrencewrote: >> >>> On 25/06/2010 16:34, Stephen Hansen wrote: >>> >>>  Python's slow, sure. But its in practice fast enough for an extremely >>>

Re: improving python performance by extension module (64bit)

2010-06-25 Thread Stephen Hansen
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 25/06/2010 22:25, Stephen Hansen wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Mark Lawrence> >wrote: >> >> On 25/06/2010 16:34, Stephen Hansen wrote: >>> >>> Python's slow, sure. But its in practice fast enough for an extremely >>>

Re: improving python performance by extension module (64bit)

2010-06-25 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 25/06/2010 22:25, Stephen Hansen wrote: On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Mark Lawrencewrote: On 25/06/2010 16:34, Stephen Hansen wrote: Python's slow, sure. But its in practice fast enough for an extremely broad range of activities. What? What, what? --S Python is *NOT* slow,

Re: improving python performance by extension module (64bit)

2010-06-25 Thread Stephen Hansen
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 25/06/2010 16:34, Stephen Hansen wrote: > > Python's slow, sure. But its in practice fast enough for an extremely >> broad >> range of activities. >> >> > What? > What, what? --S -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: improving python performance by extension module (64bit)

2010-06-25 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 25/06/2010 16:34, Stephen Hansen wrote: Python's slow, sure. But its in practice fast enough for an extremely broad range of activities. What? Kindest regards. Mark Lawrence. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: improving python performance by extension module (64bit)

2010-06-25 Thread Stephen Hansen
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Peng Yu wrote: > http://psyco.sourceforge.net/ > > The above package can improve python program on 32 bit library. But I > need to run on 64 bit library. Is there any other module that can help > improving the performance of python on 64 bit? > This is a total as

Re: improving python performance by extension module (64bit)

2010-06-25 Thread geremy condra
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 7:01 AM, Tim Wintle wrote: > On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 21:52 -0500, Peng Yu wrote: >> http://psyco.sourceforge.net/ >> >> The above package can improve python program on 32 bit library. But I >> need to run on 64 bit library. Is there any other module that can help >> improving

Re: improving python performance by extension module (64bit)

2010-06-25 Thread Tim Wintle
On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 21:52 -0500, Peng Yu wrote: > http://psyco.sourceforge.net/ > > The above package can improve python program on 32 bit library. But I > need to run on 64 bit library. Is there any other module that can help > improving the performance of python on 64 bit? As I understand it

improving python performance by extension module (64bit)

2010-06-24 Thread Peng Yu
http://psyco.sourceforge.net/ The above package can improve python program on 32 bit library. But I need to run on 64 bit library. Is there any other module that can help improving the performance of python on 64 bit? -- Regards, Peng -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Improving Python docs (was Re: OpenSource documentation problems)

2005-09-07 Thread Aahz
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Aahz wrote: >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >> Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >.> >>>Bear in mind that the PSF made its very first grants last year. The >>>reason none of those grants was awarded to a documenta

Re: Improving Python

2004-12-27 Thread Steve Holden
Aahz wrote: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: func(*arg) instead of apply() is a step back -- it hides the fact that functions are objects, and it confuses the heck out of both C/C++ programmers and Python programmers that understand the "def func(*arg)" form,

Re: Improving Python (was: Lambda going out of fashion)

2004-12-27 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Dima Dorfman wrote: > I happen to not mind the ''.join syntax, but if I did, I would use > > str.join('', seq) > > which is just like a join builtin except that it's not as easy to make > it work on pre-string-method Pythons. just like join, except that it isn't: >>> string.join(seq, sep) u'axb

Re: Improving Python (was: Lambda going out of fashion)

2004-12-26 Thread Mike Meyer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) writes: > While I'm in complete agreement about the "".join() construct on the > basis of looks, I have come to appreciate the fact that I *never* mess up > the order of arguments any more. Yeah. When I needed joinable arrays of strings in Eiffel, I added them to the ARRA

Re: Improving Python (was: Lambda going out of fashion)

2004-12-26 Thread Dima Dorfman
On 2004-12-26, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > string methods are nice, but nothing groundbreaking, and their niceness is > almost entirely offset by the horrid "".join(seq) construct that keeps popping > up when people take the "the string module is deprecated" yada yada too > seriously

Re: Improving Python (was: Lambda going out of fashion)

2004-12-26 Thread Aahz
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >func(*arg) instead of apply() is a step back -- it hides the fact >that functions are objects, and it confuses the heck out of both >C/C++ programmers and Python programmers that understand the "def >func(*arg)" form, becau

Re: Improving Python (was: Lambda going out of fashion)

2004-12-26 Thread Just
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Fredrik Lundh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > func(*arg) instead of apply() is a step back Strongly disagree. I find func(*args) much more readable than apply(func, args). > -- it hides the fact that functions are objects, What does this have to do with anything

Re: Improving Python (was: Lambda going out of fashion)

2004-12-26 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Aahz wrote: >>(I've said it before, and I'll say it again: native unicode and >>generators are the only essential additions I've seen since 1.5.2, with >>properties and sub-classable C types sharing a distant third place. >>the rest of the stuff has had zero impact on my ability to write solid >>c

Re: Improving Python (was: Lambda going out of fashion)

2004-12-25 Thread Aahz
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >(I've said it before, and I'll say it again: native unicode and >generators are the only essential additions I've seen since 1.5.2, with >properties and sub-classable C types sharing a distant third place. >the rest of the

Re: Improving Python (was: Lambda going out of fashion)

2004-12-23 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Skip Montanaro wrote: > >Keith> My personal gripe is this. I think the core language, as of 2.3 >Keith> or 2.4 is very good, has more features than most people will ever >Keith> use, and they (Guido, et al.) can stop tinkering with it now and >Keith> concentrate more on the standard

Improving Python (was: Lambda going out of fashion)

2004-12-23 Thread Skip Montanaro
Keith> My personal gripe is this. I think the core language, as of 2.3 Keith> or 2.4 is very good, has more features than most people will ever Keith> use, and they (Guido, et al.) can stop tinkering with it now and Keith> concentrate more on the standard libraries. What keeps you