Re: GUI tookit for science and education

2005-08-17 Thread Robert Kern
John Hunter wrote: >>"Robert" == Robert Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Robert>H = U*D*V.T > > Robert> then I'm more than happy with that tradeoff. The small > Robert> syntactic conveniences MATLAB provides are dwarfed by the > Robert> intrinsic power of Python. >

Re: GUI tookit for science and education

2005-08-17 Thread John Hunter
> "Robert" == Robert Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Robert>H = U*D*V.T Robert> then I'm more than happy with that tradeoff. The small Robert> syntactic conveniences MATLAB provides are dwarfed by the Robert> intrinsic power of Python. Of course, U*D*V (transpose omitted

Re: GUI tookit for science and education

2005-08-17 Thread Robert Kern
James Sungjin Kim wrote: > Robert Kern wrote: > >>... Once you move outside of that box and start doing real >>programming, Python (with Numeric, ipython, matplotlib, scipy, et al.) >>beats MATLAB handily. > > As one who is really newbie on Python, In MATLAB we can represent the > codes for the

Re: GUI tookit for science and education

2005-08-17 Thread James Sungjin Kim
Robert Kern wrote: > ... Once you move outside of that box and start doing real > programming, Python (with Numeric, ipython, matplotlib, scipy, et al.) > beats MATLAB handily. As one who is really newbie on Python, In MATLAB we can represent the codes for the matrix manipulation as really like

Re: GUI tookit for science and education

2005-08-17 Thread John Hunter
> "James" == James Sungjin Kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: James> Michele Simionato wrote: >> My vote is for ipython + matplotlib. Very easy and very >> powerful. James> Is it really easier than to use MATLAB(TM)? Do you find matlab easy to use? What aspects are hard or easy

Re: GUI tookit for science and education

2005-08-17 Thread Robert Kern
James Sungjin Kim wrote: > Michele Simionato wrote: > >>My vote is for ipython + matplotlib. Very easy and very powerful. > > Is it really easier than to use MATLAB(TM)? If you're only doing exactly the things that MATLAB or one of its toolkits was designed to do, then MATLAB will probably be s

Re: GUI tookit for science and education

2005-08-17 Thread James Sungjin Kim
Michele Simionato wrote: > My vote is for ipython + matplotlib. Very easy and very powerful. Is it really easier than to use MATLAB(TM)? -James -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: GUI tookit for science and education

2005-08-17 Thread phil
> As I said, I'm looking for multiplatform solution. > So, I will go with Python, Tk and C++ (for algorithm and critical parts > of applications). Tk is simple, very simple, Python I like, C++ I love, > as I'm professional C++ programmer. Good choice! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: GUI tookit for science and education

2005-08-17 Thread Mateusz Łoskot
Thomas Bartkus napisał(a): > "Paul Rubin" wrote in message > > I would take MS Excel/VBA as the premier fat client prototyping tool/GUI > toolkit for science & education. How would one go about replicating any of > that in an HTML/browser app? How do we get to "easier t

Re: GUI tookit for science and education

2005-08-17 Thread Michele Simionato
1. Mateusz Loskot: >I would like to ask some scientists or students >which GUI toolkit they would recommend >to develop scientific prototypes (for education and >testing some theories). My vote is for ipython + matplotlib. Very easy and very powerful. Michele Simionato -- http://mail.pyt

Re: GUI tookit for science and education

2005-08-17 Thread Adriaan Renting
Well, I don't think you want to write everything in HTML, but you can certainly have a program in Python/perl/PHP/ASP/java that outputs your user interface in HTML on one side, and maybe talks to Matlab or Root on the otherside to do the actual science/generate the images. I wouldn't advice Excel+V

Re: GUI tookit for science and education

2005-08-17 Thread Thomas Bartkus
"Paul Rubin" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mateusz £oskot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Thank you for any piece of advice in advance. > > Ask yourself why you want a GUI toolkit. Maybe you can write a web > application instead, and use a browser as the GUI.

Re: GUI tookit for science and education

2005-08-16 Thread Mateusz Łoskot
Markus Rosenstihl napisał(a): >>> It doesn't have much math built in. For functions you have to >>> plot points. >> >> >> If you want to plot stuff, the gnuplot-py module is very easy >> to use. http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnuplot-py/ >> [...] > > matplotlib is also ver good possibility >

Re: GUI tookit for science and education

2005-08-16 Thread Markus Rosenstihl
>> It doesn't have much math built in. For functions you have to >> plot points. > > If you want to plot stuff, the gnuplot-py module is very easy > to use. http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnuplot-py/ > > The one feature that I'd really like to add is the ability to > plot a python function obj

Re: GUI tookit for science and education

2005-08-16 Thread Mateusz Łoskot
Thank you all for valuable responses. I think I will stick to Tk and Tkinter. Cheers -- Mateusz Łoskot, mateusz (at) loskot (dot) net Registered Linux User #220771 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: GUI tookit for science and education

2005-08-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2005-08-15, phil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> Tkinter is the default GUI for Python, it runs on lots of platforms >> and often comes already installed (on Linux or Unix distributions). >> > > > I use Tkinter for a geometry course. I think it is fairly easy to > learn, much easier than s

Re: GUI tookit for science and education

2005-08-15 Thread phil
> > Tkinter is the default GUI for Python, it runs on lots of platforms > and often comes already installed (on Linux or Unix distributions). > I use Tkinter for a geometry course. I think it is fairly easy to learn, much easier than say VB. VERY portable and pretty well documented and very

Re: GUI tookit for science and education

2005-08-15 Thread phil hunt
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 04:59:29 +0200, Mateusz £oskot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi, > >I'd like to ask some scientists or students >which GUI toolkit they would recommend >to develop scientific prototypes (for education and >testing some theories). >I think such toolkit should fill a bit different >

Re: GUI tookit for science and education

2005-08-15 Thread TPJ
Recently I was considering the choice of PyGTK or wxPython. They are both rich GUI libraries, and they both are cross-platform ones (well... they work on GNU/Linux and on Windows). I chose PyGTK, because it has *much* better documentation (I wasn't very happy when I had to look for information in

Re: GUI tookit for science and education

2005-08-15 Thread Alessandro Bottoni
Mateusz ?oskot wrote: > I'd like to ask some scientists or students > which GUI toolkit they would recommend > to develop scientific prototypes (for education and > testing some theories). > I think such toolkit should fill a bit different > needs and requirements: > - very simple to learn > - ea

Re: GUI tookit for science and education

2005-08-14 Thread Paul Rubin
Mateusz £oskot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thank you for any piece of advice in advance. Ask yourself why you want a GUI toolkit. Maybe you can write a web application instead, and use a browser as the GUI. That's a lot easier to write (just use html), and makes it trivial to run the applicati

GUI tookit for science and education

2005-08-14 Thread Mateusz Łoskot
Hi, I'd like to ask some scientists or students which GUI toolkit they would recommend to develop scientific prototypes (for education and testing some theories). I think such toolkit should fill a bit different needs and requirements: - very simple to learn - easy to install - beautyfiers and adv