Re: [osx] dyld: Library not loaded: /usr/local/Cellar/python@3.8/3.8.3_1/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.8/Python

2020-12-04 Thread Mats Wichmann
On 12/4/20 7:15 AM, Noah wrote: Hi there, Anybody know how to fix this issue on a mac? ❯ /usr/local/bin/python dyld: Library not loaded: /usr/local/Cellar/python@3.8/3.8.3_1/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.8/Python   Referenced from: /usr/local/bin/python   Reason: image not found

[osx] dyld: Library not loaded: /usr/local/Cellar/python@3.8/3.8.3_1/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.8/Python

2020-12-04 Thread Noah
Hi there, Anybody know how to fix this issue on a mac? ❯ /usr/local/bin/python dyld: Library not loaded: /usr/local/Cellar/python@3.8/3.8.3_1/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.8/Python Referenced from: /usr/local/bin/python Reason: image not found [1]32209 abort /usr/local

A nice collection of often useful awesome Python frameworks

2019-05-03 Thread heshanfu
A nice collection of often useful awesome Python frameworks, libraries and software. https://pythonawesome.com/ -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Web Frameworks

2017-03-09 Thread Patrick McFarling
> > I would like to know what are the pros and cons of the web frameworks made > > in python. > > The one I tend to lean towards is Flask. > > -- > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list Thanks for the book! -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Web Frameworks

2017-03-09 Thread David Froger
There is a free ebook on the subject on O'Reilly: http://www.oreilly.com/web-platform/free/python-web-frameworks.csp Hope it helps, David Quoting Patrick McFarling (2017-03-09 10:24:16) > I would like to know what are the pros and cons of the web frameworks made in > python. >

Web Frameworks

2017-03-09 Thread Patrick McFarling
I would like to know what are the pros and cons of the web frameworks made in python. The one I tend to lean towards is Flask. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python dashboard tutorials/frameworks for interactive, D3.js graphs in IPython Notebooks

2015-11-06 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 5:13 PM, wrote: > On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 8:10:16 PM UTC-4, Matt Sundquist wrote: >> For more background, refer to our Python docs: https://plot.ly/python/, our >> Python framework for making dashboards: https://github.com/plotly/dash, our >> data science blog: http:

Re: Python dashboard tutorials/frameworks for interactive, D3.js graphs in IPython Notebooks

2015-11-05 Thread srinath . nathan
On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 8:10:16 PM UTC-4, Matt Sundquist wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm part of Plotly, and we've just finished a few releases I thought I'd pass > along. > > These tools make it easy to craft interactive graphs and dashboards with > D3.js using Python. We're especially drawn to

Re: How may I learn Python Web Frameworks

2015-07-24 Thread Nonami Animashaun
The official Django docs is pretty detailed https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.8/ You could also look at the Django book but it confesses to being written for version 1.4 even though it goes ahead to assure us that it's not outdated https://django-book.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ -- https://mail.

Re: How may I learn Python Web Frameworks

2015-07-24 Thread darnold via Python-list
you'll find a very extensive Flask tutorial at http://blog.miguelgrinberg.com/post/the-flask-mega-tutorial-part-i-hello-world . -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How may I learn Python Web Frameworks

2015-07-24 Thread Laura Creighton
web2py http://www.web2py.com/ has extensive tutorials, videos, and a book. Laura -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

How may I learn Python Web Frameworks

2015-07-24 Thread subhabrata . banerji
Dear Group, I am slightly new in Python Web Frameworks. I could learn bit of Django, Flask and Bottle. But I am looking for a good web based tutorial like Python or NLTK. Somehow, I did not find documentations for web frameworks are very good, one has to do lot of experiments even to learn

Python dashboard tutorials/frameworks for interactive, D3.js graphs in IPython Notebooks

2015-07-09 Thread Matt Sundquist
Hi all, I'm part of Plotly, and we've just finished a few releases I thought I'd pass along. These tools make it easy to craft interactive graphs and dashboards with D3.js using Python. We're especially drawn towards matplotlib, pandas, and IPython. We're still early in building, so any and a

Re: [GUI] Good frameworks for Windows/Mac?

2013-08-08 Thread Gilles
On Thu, 8 Aug 2013 01:47:21 -0700 (PDT), sagar varule wrote: >Pyside is also Good. It has a Designer which can be helpful. Thanks for the info. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [GUI] Good frameworks for Windows/Mac?

2013-08-08 Thread sagar varule
On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 4:05:40 PM UTC+5:30, Gilles wrote: > Hello > > > > I need to write a small GUI application that should run on Windows and > > Mac. > > > > What open-source framework would you recommend? I just need basic > > widgets (button, listbox, etc.) and would rather a solu

Re: [GUI] Good frameworks for Windows/Mac?

2013-08-06 Thread Gilles
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 13:22:01 +0200, Vlastimil Brom wrote: >I mostly use wxPython myself, but if you just need some basic widgets >and not some very complex or non-standard layouts, the tkinter - >available in the standard library - might be perfectly viable. >http://docs.python.org/3.3/library/tk.h

Re: [GUI] Good frameworks for Windows/Mac?

2013-08-06 Thread Jordi Riera
Hey you can build GUIs with tkinter . Easy but not as powerful than PyQt can be. I think it is os agnostic. Regards, Jordi On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Gilles wrote: > Hello > > I need to write a small GUI application that should run on Windows and > M

Re: [GUI] Good frameworks for Windows/Mac?

2013-08-06 Thread Vlastimil Brom
2013/8/6 Gilles : > Hello > > I need to write a small GUI application that should run on Windows and > Mac. > > What open-source framework would you recommend? I just need basic > widgets (button, listbox, etc.) and would rather a solution that can > get me up and running fast. > > I know about wxW

[GUI] Good frameworks for Windows/Mac?

2013-08-06 Thread Gilles
Hello I need to write a small GUI application that should run on Windows and Mac. What open-source framework would you recommend? I just need basic widgets (button, listbox, etc.) and would rather a solution that can get me up and running fast. I know about wxWidgets and Qt: Are there other good

Re: Installation on Mac OSX 10.6.8 doesn't create the folder: /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/

2013-04-02 Thread Ned Deily
et an > > error saying: > > > > How did you install Python 2.7? How did you install Kivy? Note that Kivy > states 10.7 or 10.8 is required. > > /> /usr/local/bin/kivy: line 24: > > /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/bin/python2.

Re: Installation on Mac OSX 10.6.8 doesn't create the folder: /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/

2013-04-02 Thread Jason Swails
n 2.7 to be installed in the standard Frameworks directory since it requires Python 2.7. Another option is to grok the MacPorts Portfile for Python 2.7 to figure out how they compile it using the Mac Framework and emulate that process when you build Python 2.7 from source (but don't install to

Installation on Mac OSX 10.6.8 doesn't create the folder: /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/

2013-04-02 Thread kramer65
Hello people, I installed python 2.7 on Mac OSX 10.6.8 with no problems and it is working fine. When I try to install Kivy however (www.kivy.org), I get an error saying: /usr/local/bin/kivy: line 24: /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/bin/python2.7: No such file or

Are there any Python libraries/frameworks which generate AngularJS?

2013-03-19 Thread Alec Taylor
I find the stateless SOA architecture to be increasingly useful and relevant. For example, it allows you to write once; deploy to: - Website (for viewing in web browsers) - Native mobile apps (using Adobe PhoneGap or similar) - Ubuntu apps - Windows Metro Store apps (for Windows 8)

Re: Web Testing Frameworks

2013-02-12 Thread John Gordon
In Greg Lindstrom writes: > I'm not wanting to start anything here, but I am wanting to automate > testing of my Django-based websites. A quick search on Google turns up a Have you looked at using the built-in django test client? -- John Gordon A is for Amy, who fell down

Web Testing Frameworks

2013-02-12 Thread Greg Lindstrom
Hello, I'm not wanting to start anything here, but I am wanting to automate testing of my Django-based websites. A quick search on Google turns up a number of packages and I would like to know if any stand out from the others? Our main sites are used to display a customer dashboard, so my concer

Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-22 Thread Thomas Bach
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:49:52PM -0800, rh wrote: > > wheezy + "myvirtualenv" = 3.3MB > pyramid = 92MB $ mkvirtualenv --no-site-packages -p python2.7 pyramid $ pip install -U distribute $ pip install pyramid $ du -h .virtualenvs/pyramid 22M .virtualenvs/pyramid $ du

Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Modulok
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Steven D'Aprano > wrote: >> On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:21:23 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >>> Counting complexity by giving a score to every statement encourages code >>> like this: >>> >>> def bletch(x,y): >>> return x + {"foo":y*2,"bar":x*3+y,"quux":math.sin(

Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:21:23 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> Counting complexity by giving a score to every statement encourages code >> like this: >> >> def bletch(x,y): >> return x + {"foo":y*2,"bar":x*3+y,"quux":math.sin(y)}.get(mod

Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Chris Rebert
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:57 AM, rh wrote: > On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 10:12:26 -0800 > Chris Rebert wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 9:49 AM, rh >> wrote: >> > On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:41:42 +0300 >> > Andriy Kornatskyy wrote: >> > I'm looking at different technology right now on which to base a >>

RE: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Andriy Kornatskyy
Richard, Thank you for the comment. I have examined web frameworks for PEP8 and CC metrics already. Results are here: http://mindref.blogspot.com/2012/10/python-web-pep8-consistency.html http://mindref.blogspot.com/2012/11/python-web-excessive-complexity.html Same applies to performance

Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Chris Rebert
recommended level of 10 (threshold that points to the >> fact the source code is too complex and refactoring is suggested). >> Here is a list of web frameworks examined: bottle, cherrypy, >> circuits, django, flask, pyramid, pysi, tornado, turbogears, web.py, >> web2py and whee

Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Robert Kern
On 21/11/2012 12:47, Andriy Kornatskyy wrote: Hm... what serves an evidence purpose for you? Well-done empirical studies, like the one I gave you. -- Robert Kern "I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to inte

RE: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Andriy Kornatskyy
: Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 12:26:26 + > > On 21/11/2012 12:17, Andriy Kornatskyy wrote: > > > > Agreed. I think we have pretty much the same point of view on this. > > > > All these metrics advise you... this is again depen

Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Robert Kern
On 21/11/2012 12:17, Andriy Kornatskyy wrote: Agreed. I think we have pretty much the same point of view on this. All these metrics advise you... this is again depends how you look at this. If you are a new comer to a project, you usually spend some time on code review, talk to people, read d

RE: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Andriy Kornatskyy
analysis give you an initial picture, how it fits with your own vision, etc. Convince or accept? Andriy Kornatskyy > To: python-list@python.org > From: robert.k...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2

Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Robert Kern
On 21/11/2012 11:02, Andriy Kornatskyy wrote: Robert, You would never get a better product by accident. The meaning of better product might differ from team to team but you can not ignore excessive complexity. Earlier or later you get back to that code and refactor it, thus existence of such

RE: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Andriy Kornatskyy
I believe for the quality of code you produce. Thanks. Andriy > From: steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info > Subject: Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:43:10 + > To: python-list@python.org > > O

Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Robert Kern
On 21/11/2012 01:43, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:07:54 +, Robert Kern wrote: The source of bugs is not excessive complexity in a method, just excessive lines of code. Taken literally, that cannot possibly the case. def method(self, a, b, c): do_this(a) do_that

RE: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Andriy Kornatskyy
. Thanks. Andriy > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:21:23 +1100 > Subject: Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity > From: ros...@gmail.com > To: python-list@python.org > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Andriy Kornatskyy > wrote: >

Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:21:23 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > Counting complexity by giving a score to every statement encourages code > like this: > > def bletch(x,y): > return x + {"foo":y*2,"bar":x*3+y,"quux":math.sin(y)}.get(mode,0) > > instead of: > > def bletch(x,y): > if mode=="foo": r

RE: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Andriy Kornatskyy
> From: ulrich.eckha...@dominolaser.com > Subject: Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 09:33:09 +0100 > To: python-list@python.org > > Am 21.11.2012 02:43, schrieb Steven D'Aprano: > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:07:54 +, Robert K

RE: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Andriy Kornatskyy
. Thanks. Andriy > To: python-list@python.org > From: robert.k...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:33:46 + > > On 20/11/2012 20:22, Andriy Kornatskyy wrote: > > > >

Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-21 Thread Ulrich Eckhardt
Am 21.11.2012 02:43, schrieb Steven D'Aprano: On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:07:54 +, Robert Kern wrote: The source of bugs is not excessive complexity in a method, just excessive lines of code. Taken literally, that cannot possibly the case. def method(self, a, b, c): do_this(a) do_tha

Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-20 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:07:54 +, Robert Kern wrote: > The source of bugs is not excessive complexity in a method, just > excessive lines of code. Taken literally, that cannot possibly the case. def method(self, a, b, c): do_this(a) do_that(b) do_something_else(c) def method(self

Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-20 Thread Robert Kern
On 20/11/2012 20:22, Andriy Kornatskyy wrote: Robert, I respect your point of view and it definitely make sense to me. I personally do not have a problem to understand CC but agree, method LoC is easier to understand. Regardless the path your choose in your next refactoring (based on method

RE: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-20 Thread Andriy Kornatskyy
> To: python-list@python.org > From: robert.k...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:07:54 + > > On 20/11/2012 19:46, Andriy Kornatskyy wrote: > > > > Robert, > >

Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-20 Thread Robert Kern
On 20/11/2012 19:46, Andriy Kornatskyy wrote: Robert, Thank you for the comment. I do not try relate CC with LOC. Instead pointing to excessive complexity, something that is beyond recommended threshold, a subject to refactoring in respective web frameworks. Those areas are likely to be

RE: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-20 Thread Andriy Kornatskyy
Robert, Thank you for the comment. I do not try relate CC with LOC. Instead pointing to excessive complexity, something that is beyond recommended threshold, a subject to refactoring in respective web frameworks. Those areas are likely to be potential source of bugs (e.g. due to low code

Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-20 Thread Robert Kern
refactoring is suggested). Here is a list of web frameworks examined: bottle, cherrypy, circuits, django, flask, pyramid, pysi, tornado, turbogears, web.py, web2py and wheezy.web. Cyclomatic complexity tells you nothing that counting lines of code doesn't already. http://www.scirp.org/Jo

Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity

2012-11-20 Thread Andriy Kornatskyy
frameworks examined: bottle, cherrypy, circuits, django, flask, pyramid, pysi, tornado, turbogears, web.py, web2py and wheezy.web. You can read more here: http://mindref.blogspot.com/2012/11/python-web-excessive-complexity.html Thanks. Comments or suggestions are welcome. Andriy Kornatskyy

Python Web Frameworks PEP8 Consistency

2012-10-18 Thread Andriy Kornatskyy
The code is read much more often than it is written. The PEP8 guidelines are intended to improve the readability of code. We will take a look at web frameworks source code readability (bottle, cherrypy, circuits, django, flask, pyramid, tornado, web.py, web2py and wheezy.web): http

Re: Your favorite test tool and automation frameworks

2012-08-27 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 27/08/2012 12:04, Alex Naumov wrote: Hello everybody, I would like to ask about your favorite python test frameworks. I never used it before (beginner in testing) and would like to start to learn Unit- and GUI-testing. I look now at PyUnit/unittest and dogtail. Maybe someone can recommend

Your favorite test tool and automation frameworks

2012-08-27 Thread Alex Naumov
Hello everybody, I would like to ask about your favorite python test frameworks. I never used it before (beginner in testing) and would like to start to learn Unit- and GUI-testing. I look now at PyUnit/unittest and dogtail. Maybe someone can recommend something better or just share experiences

Re: Database access benchmarks for use in web-frameworks - How does Python compare?

2011-11-04 Thread Stefan Behnel
extendible). "e-commerce" is also a very broad term. But I'd expect that any of the recent web frameworks (certainly including Django) will satisfy your needs in some way. Are there recent accessible statistics available, comparing these metrics across the most popular web-

Re: Database access benchmarks for use in web-frameworks - How does Python compare?

2011-11-03 Thread 88888 Dihedral
I suggest that the use of dynamical page forwarding to different severs which run the same software package. This can be done in python! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Database access benchmarks for use in web-frameworks - How does Python compare?

2011-11-03 Thread Alec Taylor
dible). Are there recent accessible statistics available, comparing these metrics across the most popular web-frameworks? (i.e. Symfony, DJango, Rails, ASP.NET &etc) Thanks for all suggestions, Alec Taylor -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How to select Python web frameworks and which one is the best framework ?

2011-05-19 Thread Kushal Kumaran
erally found in >> now-a-days web application like security, database connectivity, >> authentication etc. I found few web frameworks over the net like django, >> zope 2/3, pylons, turbogears, web2py, grok etc. etc. >> I just want to know that how developers/managers/organiz

Re: How to select Python web frameworks and which one is the best framework ?

2011-05-18 Thread VGNU Linux
se connectivity, > authentication etc. I found few web frameworks over the net like django, > zope 2/3, pylons, turbogears, web2py, grok etc. etc. > I just want to know that how developers/managers/organizations select a > framework which best suits their needs ? what are the parameters for > select

How to select Python web frameworks and which one is the best framework ?

2011-05-17 Thread VGNU Linux
Hi all, I am confused on which web framework to select for developing a small data driven web application. Application will have features generally found in now-a-days web application like security, database connectivity, authentication etc. I found few web frameworks over the net like django

Re: python test frameworks

2010-11-08 Thread Kev Dwyer
On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 09:01:42 -0800, rustom wrote: > On Nov 7, 7:09 pm, Kev Dwyer wrote: >> On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 10:56:46 +0530, Rustom Mody wrote: >> > There are a large number of test frameworks in/for python.  Apart >> > from what comes builtin with python t

Re: python test frameworks

2010-11-07 Thread rustom
On Nov 7, 7:09 pm, Kev Dwyer wrote: > On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 10:56:46 +0530, Rustom Mody wrote: > > There are a large number of test frameworks in/for python.  Apart from > > what comes builtin with python there seems to be nose, staf, qmtest etc > > etc. > > > Is there

Re: python test frameworks

2010-11-07 Thread Kev Dwyer
On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 10:56:46 +0530, Rustom Mody wrote: > There are a large number of test frameworks in/for python. Apart from > what comes builtin with python there seems to be nose, staf, qmtest etc > etc. > > Is there any central place where these are listed with short > d

python test frameworks

2010-11-06 Thread Rustom Mody
There are a large number of test frameworks in/for python. Apart from what comes builtin with python there seems to be nose, staf, qmtest etc etc. Is there any central place where these are listed with short descriptions? 'Test framework' means widely different things in different con

High(er) level frameworks that wrap Tkinter/ttk?

2010-10-26 Thread python
Curious if there are any higher level frameworks that attempt to wrap Tkinter? For example, wxPython is wrapped by the Dabo framework (http://dabodev.com/) and PythonCard. Motivation: We've recently moved to Python 2.7 (Windows) and are very impressed with the new ttk (Tile) support which a

Re: How decoupled are the Python frameworks?

2009-12-09 Thread mdipierro
ping > large enterprise apps solely with Adobe Flex (ActionScript) for the > past couple years.  During that time I've used a number of 'MVC' > frameworks to glue the bits together - among them Cairngorm, a > modified implementation of Cairngorm using the Presentation Mod

Re: How decoupled are the Python frameworks?

2009-12-08 Thread Martin Sand Christensen
e very little experience with other frameworks than CherryPy, so I do not want to draw any general conclusions. My programmer's instincts say that it's true, though. -- Martin Sand Christensen IT Services, Dept. of Electronic Systems -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How decoupled are the Python frameworks?

2009-12-08 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
shocks wrote: > Hi > > I'm getting back into Python after a long break. I've been developing > large enterprise apps solely with Adobe Flex (ActionScript) for the > past couple years. During that time I've used a number of 'MVC' > frameworks to glue

Re: How decoupled are the Python frameworks?

2009-12-08 Thread Lie Ryan
tials) and either allows or denies him access. This adds up to a LOT of framework-specific code that's been very easily factored out. The CAS and role modules behind the decorators are, in turn, generic frameworks that we've merely specialised for CherryPy. At some point we'll get arou

Re: How decoupled are the Python frameworks?

2009-12-08 Thread Martin Sand Christensen
credentials) and either allows or denies him access. This adds up to a LOT of framework-specific code that's been very easily factored out. The CAS and role modules behind the decorators are, in turn, generic frameworks that we've merely specialised for CherryPy. At some point we'll get

Re: How decoupled are the Python frameworks?

2009-12-07 Thread J Kenneth King
shocks writes: > Hi > > I'm getting back into Python after a long break. I've been developing > large enterprise apps solely with Adobe Flex (ActionScript) for the > past couple years. During that time I've used a number of 'MVC' > frameworks to glue

How decoupled are the Python frameworks?

2009-12-07 Thread shocks
Hi I'm getting back into Python after a long break. I've been developing large enterprise apps solely with Adobe Flex (ActionScript) for the past couple years. During that time I've used a number of 'MVC' frameworks to glue the bits together - among them Cairngorm, a m

Re: Frameworks

2009-10-24 Thread Emmanuel Surleau
ee. You still have the core framework (request / > >> response handling, sessions etc), the templating system, the form API > >> etc. As far as I'm concerned, it's quite enough to "make it worth". > > > > The form API is pretty good, but I don&#x

Re: Frameworks

2009-10-22 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
;. The form API is pretty good, but I don't think the rest makes it stand out that much, compared to other frameworks. I don't care if it "stand out that much" - it works fine and is well documented. Given that for most web apps, Django's ORM is a good enough tool, I

Re: Frameworks

2009-10-21 Thread Emmanuel Surleau
the core framework (request / > response handling, sessions etc), the templating system, the form API > etc. As far as I'm concerned, it's quite enough to "make it worth". The form API is pretty good, but I don't think the rest makes it stand out that much, co

Re: Frameworks

2009-10-21 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Emmanuel Surleau a écrit : Emmanuel Surleau a écrit : Django : very strong integration, excellent documentation and support, huge community, really easy to get started with. And possibly a bit more mature and stable... One strong point in favour of Django: it follows Python's philosophy of "bat

Re: Frameworks

2009-10-20 Thread Emmanuel Surleau
> On Oct 20, 2009, at 4:59 PM, Emmanuel Surleau wrote: > > Compared to custom tags in, say, Mako? Having to implement a mini- > > parser for > > each single tag when you can write a stupid Python function is > > needless > > complication. > > I like Mako a lot and in fact web2py template took some

Re: Frameworks

2009-10-20 Thread Massimo Di Pierro
On Oct 20, 2009, at 4:59 PM, Emmanuel Surleau wrote: Compared to custom tags in, say, Mako? Having to implement a mini- parser for each single tag when you can write a stupid Python function is needless complication. I like Mako a lot and in fact web2py template took some inspiration from

Re: Frameworks

2009-10-20 Thread Emmanuel Surleau
> Emmanuel Surleau a écrit : > >> Django : very strong integration, excellent documentation and support, > >> huge community, really easy to get started with. And possibly a bit more > >> mature and stable... > > > > One strong point in favour of Django: it follows Python's philosophy of > > "batte

Re: Frameworks

2009-10-20 Thread mdipierro
One more clarification to avoid confusion. Django has "admin" and it is great. Web2py also has something called "admin" but that is not apples to apples. The closest thing to Django "admin" in web2py is called "appadmin" (it comes with it). For example consider the following complete program:

Re: Frameworks

2009-10-20 Thread mdipierro
On Oct 19, 9:01 am, flebber wrote: > In short it seems to me that Django and Web2py include more "magic" in > assisting oneself to create you web/application, whilst Pylons and > Werkzueg leave more control in the users hands hopefully leading to > greater expression and power. it depends on how

Re: Frameworks

2009-10-20 Thread Massimo Di Pierro
> So does web2py allow for raw sql if there is an advanced procedure or query that needs to be performed that is outside the scope of the web2pr orm Yes db.executesql("whatever you want") http://www.web2py.com/examples/static/epydoc/web2py.gluon.sql.SQLDB-class.html Massimo -- http://mail.

Re: Frameworks

2009-10-20 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
flebber a écrit : (snip) In short it seems to me that Django and Web2py include more "magic" in assisting oneself to create you web/application, whilst Pylons and Werkzueg leave more control in the users hands hopefully leading to greater expression and power. I can't tell much about web2py - n

Re: Frameworks

2009-10-20 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Emmanuel Surleau a écrit : Django : very strong integration, excellent documentation and support, huge community, really easy to get started with. And possibly a bit more mature and stable... One strong point in favour of Django: it follows Python's philosophy of "batteries included", and feat

Re: Frameworks

2009-10-19 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
> web2py is interesting the author appears to be implying(I could be > misunderstanding this) that the web2py db ORM is equal to if not > superior to SQLAlchemy - From > http://www.web2py.com/AlterEgo/default/show/150 I don't read that out of the post, and it almost certainly is wrong, at least o

Re: Frameworks

2009-10-19 Thread flebber
On Oct 20, 3:31 am, Massimo Di Pierro wrote: > Hello, > > Just to clarify. I did not make any statement about "web2py is   > superior to SQLAlchemy" since that is somewhat subjective. > SQLALchemy for example does a much better job at accessing legacy   > databases. web2py is more limited in that

Re: Frameworks

2009-10-19 Thread Emmanuel Surleau
> Django : very strong integration, excellent documentation and support, > huge community, really easy to get started with. And possibly a bit more > mature and stable... One strong point in favour of Django: it follows Python's philosophy of "batteries included", and features a large array of pl

Re: Frameworks

2009-10-19 Thread Massimo Di Pierro
Hello, Just to clarify. I did not make any statement about "web2py is superior to SQLAlchemy" since that is somewhat subjective. SQLALchemy for example does a much better job at accessing legacy databases. web2py is more limited in that respect and we are working on removing those limitatio

Re: Frameworks

2009-10-19 Thread flebber
On Oct 20, 12:32 am, "Diez B. Roggisch" wrote: > > web2py is interesting the author appears to be implying(I could be > > misunderstanding this) that the web2py db ORM is equal to if not > > superior to SQLAlchemy - From > >http://www.web2py.com/AlterEgo/default/show/150 > > I don't read that out

Re: Frameworks

2009-10-19 Thread Marco Mariani
Diez B. Roggisch wrote: I don't read that out of the post, and it almost certainly is wrong, at least on a general level. There isn't much above SQLAlchemy regarding flexibility & power, so while simple cases might be simpler with other ORMs, they often make more complicated ones impossible. Bu

Re: Frameworks

2009-10-19 Thread flebber
, Oct 19, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Bruno Desthuilliers > > > wrote: > > > flebber a écrit : > > > >> Hi > > > >> I have been searching through the vast array of python frameworks > > >>http://wiki.python.org/moin/WebFrameworksandits quite astoundin

Re: Frameworks

2009-10-19 Thread flebber
r a écrit : > > >> Hi > > >> I have been searching through the vast array of python frameworks > >>http://wiki.python.org/moin/WebFrameworksand its quite astounding the > >> choice available. > > >> I am looking at using a web framework for my pe

Re: Frameworks

2009-10-19 Thread Javier Santana
juno http://github.com/breily/juno it's very easy, uses sqlalchemy as ORM and jinja2 (others can be used if you want) for templates. On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: > flebber a écrit : >> >> Hi >> >> I have been searching through the

Re: Frameworks

2009-10-19 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
flebber a écrit : Hi I have been searching through the vast array of python frameworks http://wiki.python.org/moin/WebFrameworks and its quite astounding the choice available. I am looking at using a web framework for my personal project which isn't actually aimed at developing a websi

Re: Frameworks

2009-10-18 Thread flebber
gt; Since I will be retreiving information from several websites (usually > csv files) formatting them and submitting them to a database and > creating queries and printouts based on them most frameworks seem to > handle this basically with ease and for any complex queries most > support

Frameworks

2009-10-18 Thread flebber
Hi I have been searching through the vast array of python frameworks http://wiki.python.org/moin/WebFrameworks and its quite astounding the choice available. I am looking at using a web framework for my personal project which isn't actually aimed at developing a website as such. However I d

Re: web frameworks that support Python 3

2009-08-25 Thread Graham Dumpleton
On Aug 26, 12:19 pm, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: > On 01:41 am, a...@pythoncraft.com wrote: > > > > > > >In article > >, > >Graham Dumpleton   wrote: > >>On Aug 24, 6:34=A0am, Sebastian Wiesner wrote: > > >>>In any case, there is bottle [1], which provides a *very minimal* > >>>framewo= > >>r

Re: web frameworks that support Python 3

2009-08-25 Thread exarkun
On 01:41 am, a...@pythoncraft.com wrote: In article , Graham Dumpleton wrote: On Aug 24, 6:34=A0am, Sebastian Wiesner wrote: In any case, there is bottle [1], which provides a *very minimal* framewo= rk for WSGI web development. =A0Don't expect too much, it is really small, a= nd does

Re: web frameworks that support Python 3

2009-08-25 Thread Aahz
In article , Graham Dumpleton wrote: >On Aug 24, 6:34=A0am, Sebastian Wiesner wrote: >> >> In any case, there is bottle [1], which provides a *very minimal* framewo= >rk >> for WSGI web development. =A0Don't expect too much, it is really small, a= >nd >> doesn't do much more than routing and mi

Re: web frameworks that support Python 3

2009-08-25 Thread Nobody
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:32:09 -0400, Albert Hopkins wrote: > What's different about Python 3 is that there is only unicode strings, > whereas Python 2 has a string type and a unicode type. Python 2 has "str" (char) and "unicode" (wchar) types. Python 3 has "bytes" (char) and "str" (wchar) types.

Re: web frameworks that support Python 3

2009-08-23 Thread Graham Dumpleton
On Aug 24, 6:34 am, Sebastian Wiesner wrote: > At Sunday 23 August 2009 22:13:16 you wrote:> I use Chinese and therefore > Unicode very heavily, and so Python 3 is > > an unavoidable choice for me. > > Python 2.x supports Unicode just as well as Python 3.  Every common web > framework works perfe

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