Richard, Thank you for the comment.
I have examined web frameworks for PEP8 and CC metrics already. Results are here: http://mindref.blogspot.com/2012/10/python-web-pep8-consistency.html http://mindref.blogspot.com/2012/11/python-web-excessive-complexity.html Same applies to performance benchmarks: http://mindref.blogspot.com/2012/09/python-fastest-web-framework.html http://mindref.blogspot.com/2012/10/python-web-routing-benchmark.html http://mindref.blogspot.com/2012/10/python-web-reverse-urls-benchmark.html http://mindref.blogspot.com/2012/10/python-web-caching-benchmark.html and template engine related: http://mindref.blogspot.com/2012/10/python-templates-benchmark.html http://mindref.blogspot.com/2012/07/python-fastest-template.html If there are any other metrics we can gather automatically I will be happy to run them. Thank you for your interest of wheezy.web. Before you buy: Demo application source: https://bitbucket.org/akorn/wheezy.web/src/tip/demos/template Demo application live: http://wheezy.pythonanywhere.com/ Tutorial: http://packages.python.org/wheezy.web/tutorial.html Finished: https://bitbucket.org/akorn/wheezy.web/src/tip/demos/guestbook Try understand what is cache dependency and how you benefit of using it with content caching. Try relate it with web caching benchmark from above and imagine 99% of your web application content is served out from cache, even it is dynamic (you control content cache with cache dependency). Thanks. Andriy Kornatskyy ---------------------------------------- > To: python-list@python.org > From: richard_hubb...@lavabit.com > Subject: Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 09:49:39 -0800 > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:41:42 +0300 > Andriy Kornatskyy <andriy.kornats...@live.com> wrote: > > > > > Cyclomatic (or conditional) complexity is a metric used to indicate > > the complexity of a source code. Excessive complexity is something > > that is beyond recommended level of 10 (threshold that points to the > > fact the source code is too complex and refactoring is suggested). > > Here is a list of web frameworks examined: bottle, cherrypy, > > circuits, django, flask, pyramid, pysi, tornado, turbogears, web.py, > > web2py and wheezy.web. > > > > You can read more here: > > > > http://mindref.blogspot.com/2012/11/python-web-excessive-complexity.html > > You are the author of wheezy.web right? Can't blame you for trying to > market your product. The conclusions, or lack of, are meaningless to me. > I have to get in and drive the car before I go all in and buy it. > > I'm looking at different technology right now on which to base a site. > I tried pyramid and after install it consumed 92MB of disk. It seemed > large and it turns out that it installed its own version of python. > Seems more complex to me, yet another python on disk. > > Anyway if you're really serious about making a point that complexity > matters you'll have to measure many more things than loc or cc. > > Did you look at the number of commits to the same file over time? > Etc. Number of authors for same file? Etc., etc. Number of security > fixes? There must be a correlation between complexity and insecurity. > Maybe check for randomness of the code. Not sure how, maybe > look for strange, non-idiomatic uses of the language. > > I'm no computer scientist and I'm sure there are volumes on all this. > > Then there's also the social side, how much discussion takes place > about the software? Does more discussion mean more problems? > More project vibrancy? You could check for vocab, etc. > > I'm gonna take a look at wheezy.web. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Comments or suggestions are welcome. > > > > Andriy Kornatskyy > > > > > -- > > > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
