On 07/01/2013 01:38 PM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> > Op 01-07-13 16:02, ru...@yahoo.com schreef:
> >
>> >> You claim "collective experience" is not reliable and dismiss it
>> >> in favor of your own theory, flaming trolls is a better response.
>> >> And your evidence for that? Nothing (that I've read
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 12:02 AM, wrote:
> ... engaging in flame wars with trolls simply produces more
> flames, hostility begets hostility ...
It does. Please can these threads die quietly now?
ChrisA
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Op 01-07-13 16:02, ru...@yahoo.com schreef:
You claim "collective experience" is not reliable and dismiss it
in favor of your own theory, flaming trolls is a better response.
And your evidence for that? Nothing (that I've read so far).
You can decide all for yourself on how you want to handle
On 06/30/2013 11:25 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> Op 28-06-13 19:20, Ian Kelly schreef:
>[...]
>> Flaming a troll is not punishing to them.
>
> I see I didn't make my point clear. This was my response to
> your remark about the collective experience going back decades.
> The collective experience oft
Op 30-06-13 19:50, Ian Kelly schreef:
On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Antoon Pardon
That is a bit odd. Rurpy seemed to consider it a big nono if others
used methods that would coerce him to change his behaviour. But here
you see shaming as an option which seems a coercive method.
Well, if
On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Antoon Pardon
wrote:
>>> So what do you think would be a good approach towards people
>>> who are behaving in conflict with this wish of yours? Just
>>> bluntly call them worse than the troll or try to approach them
>>> in a way that is less likely to antangonize
Op 28-06-13 19:20, Ian Kelly schreef:
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Antoon Pardon
wrote:
So what do you think would be a good approach towards people
who are behaving in conflict with this wish of yours? Just
bluntly call them worse than the troll or try to approach them
in a way that is l
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Antoon Pardon
wrote:
> So what do you think would be a good approach towards people
> who are behaving in conflict with this wish of yours? Just
> bluntly call them worse than the troll or try to approach them
> in a way that is less likely to antangonize them?
I
Op 26-06-13 23:02, Ian Kelly schreef:
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Antoon Pardon
wrote:
But you didn't even go to the trouble of trying to find out
what those concerns would be and how strong people feel about
them. You just took your assumptions about those concerns for
granted and procee
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Antoon Pardon
wrote:
> But you didn't even go to the trouble of trying to find out
> what those concerns would be and how strong people feel about
> them. You just took your assumptions about those concerns for
> granted and proceeded from there.
Jumping back in h
Op 25-06-13 19:25, Ian Kelly schreef:
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Antoon Pardon
wrote:
What do you mean with not a participant in the past? As far
as I can see his first appearance was in dec 2011. That is
over a year ago. It also seems that he always find people
willing to engage with hi
Op 25-06-13 17:56, ru...@yahoo.com schreef:
On 06/24/2013 07:37 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
Op 23-06-13 16:29, ru...@yahoo.com schreef:
On 06/21/2013 01:32 PM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
Op 19-06-13 23:13, ru...@yahoo.com schreef:
[...]
I put forward what I thought was a rational way of thinking
abou
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Antoon Pardon
wrote:
> What do you mean with not a participant in the past? As far
> as I can see his first appearance was in dec 2011. That is
> over a year ago. It also seems that he always find people
> willing to engage with him. Is how the group treats him
> n
On 06/24/2013 07:37 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> Op 23-06-13 16:29, ru...@yahoo.com schreef:
>> On 06/21/2013 01:32 PM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>>> Op 19-06-13 23:13, ru...@yahoo.com schreef:
>[...]
Note: although I clipped the "group volition"
paragraphs, thank you for pointing out that Nikos posts
go
Op 23-06-13 16:29, ru...@yahoo.com schreef:
> On 06/21/2013 01:32 PM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>> Op 19-06-13 23:13, ru...@yahoo.com schreef:
>>> The troll is outside the volition of the group and so his
>>> appearance is effectively an act of nature.
>>
>> This seems a rather artificial division. Esp
On 06/21/2013 01:32 PM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> Op 19-06-13 23:13, ru...@yahoo.com schreef:
>> On 06/19/2013 04:57 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>>> Op 19-06-13 05:46, ru...@yahoo.com schreef:
>>> I don't remember making such a claim. What I do remember is
>>> you among others claiming that the problem w
Op 19-06-13 23:13, ru...@yahoo.com schreef:
On 06/19/2013 04:57 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
Op 19-06-13 05:46, ru...@yahoo.com schreef:
On 06/18/2013 02:22 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
I don't remember making such a claim. What I do remember is
you among others claiming that the problem was not (so
On Friday, June 21, 2013 9:49:01 PM UTC+5:30, Ian wrote:
>
> The level of hospitality is already decreasing for me. That's why I'm
> speaking up.
I believe that this can be a point of unanimity -- "The level of hospitality
having gone down enough, I felt the need to speak up".
And with the imme
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 3:18 AM, Antoon Pardon
wrote:
> Op 21-06-13 04:40, Ian Kelly schreef:
>
>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 3:41 AM, Antoon Pardon
>> wrote:
>>> There are two problems with your reasoning. The first is that you
>>> are equivocating on "expect". "Expect" can mean you will be surpris
Op 21-06-13 04:40, Ian Kelly schreef:
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 3:41 AM, Antoon Pardon
> wrote:
>> There are two problems with your reasoning. The first is that you
>> are equivocating on "expect". "Expect" can mean you will be surprised
>> if it doesn't happen but it can also mean you will feel
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 3:41 AM, Antoon Pardon
wrote:
> There are two problems with your reasoning. The first is that you
> are equivocating on "expect". "Expect" can mean you will be surprised
> if it doesn't happen but it can also mean you will feel indignant or
> disappointed or something simil
Op 19-06-13 20:40, Ian Kelly schreef:
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 4:57 AM, Antoon Pardon
> wrote:
>> I don't remember making such a claim. What I do remember is
>> you among others claiming that the problem was not (so much)
>> the troll (Nikos) but the others.
> Count me among those who feel this
On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:40:15 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On the other hand, the flamers responding to the trolls are regular
> contributers to the list who presumably do care about keeping the list
> courteous, respectful, welcoming and enjoyable to participate in.
> Toward that end, I do not think
t;> and prolong the miscreant's stay. So their main utility is to
>> drive away those who wish to participate in Nikos' threads.
> I don't know it is that clear. I have the impression it can be
> rather effective in cases where the whole community makes it
> clear trol
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 4:57 AM, Antoon Pardon
wrote:
> I don't remember making such a claim. What I do remember is
> you among others claiming that the problem was not (so much)
> the troll (Nikos) but the others.
Count me among those who feel this way.
> And your last conclusion is unsound. Yo
Op 19-06-13 05:46, ru...@yahoo.com schreef:
> On 06/18/2013 02:22 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>> Op 17-06-13 19:56, ru...@yahoo.com schreef:
> I was using the photodetector/light system as a emotion-free
> analog of the troll/troll-feeders positive feedback system for
> which you claimed it was clea
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:07:28 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> On the contrary, stereotyping is "You are-a , therefore you
>> will behave in ".
>
> I don't think that's how stereotypes usually work.
>
> "He wears a turban, therefore he's an
On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:07:28 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On the contrary, stereotyping is "You are-a , therefore you
> will behave in ".
I don't think that's how stereotypes usually work.
"He wears a turban, therefore he's an Arab terrorist."
"He's wearing black, has pale skin, listens to t
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:49 PM, wrote:
> On 06/18/2013 01:21 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 2:39 PM, alex23 wrote:
>>> tl;dr Stop acting like a troll and we'll stop perceiving you as such.
>>
>> This being Python-list, we duck-type. You don't have to declare that
>> you're
On 2013-06-18, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 13:38:40 + (UTC), Grant Edwards
>>On 2013-06-18, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 2:39 PM, alex23 wrote:
tl;dr Stop acting like a troll and we'll stop perceiving you as such.
>>>
>>> This being Python-list, w
On 06/18/2013 01:21 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 2:39 PM, alex23 wrote:
>> tl;dr Stop acting like a troll and we'll stop perceiving you as such.
>
> This being Python-list, we duck-type. You don't have to declare that
> you're a troll, like you would in C; you just react li
On 06/18/2013 02:22 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> Op 17-06-13 19:56, ru...@yahoo.com schreef:
>> On 06/17/2013 02:15 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>>> Op 17-06-13 05:46, ru...@yahoo.com schreef:
On 06/16/2013 02:04 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Yes. Trying to start flame wars with Nikos is unaccept
On 2013-06-18, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> Op 17-06-13 19:56, ru...@yahoo.com schreef:
>>> I don't see that much change in his style. He just admitted
>>> not reading help files (because they are too technical for
>>> him). So essentialy he is asking we give him a beginners
>>> tutorial in everything
On 2013-06-18, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 2:39 PM, alex23 wrote:
>> tl;dr Stop acting like a troll and we'll stop perceiving you as such.
>
> This being Python-list, we duck-type. You don't have to declare that
> you're a troll, like you would in C; you just react like a trol
Oscar Benjamin writes:
> There is a very simple solution used by many mailing lists
Yes, that solution is described in RFC 2369: the “List-Post” field in
the header of every message sent through the mailing list.
> which is to set the Reply-To header to point back to the mailing list.
That is
Op 18-06-13 01:02, Steven D'Aprano schreef:
> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 09:31:53 +0200, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>
>> Op 16-06-13 22:04, Steven D'Aprano schreef:
>>> On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:16:34 +0200, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>>>
You are trying to get it both ways. On the one hand you try to argue
tha
Op 17-06-13 19:56, ru...@yahoo.com schreef:
> On 06/17/2013 02:15 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>> Op 17-06-13 05:46, ru...@yahoo.com schreef:
>>> On 06/16/2013 02:04 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>>
Yes. Trying to start flame wars with Nikos is unacceptable behaviour. It
is unproductive, it ma
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 2:39 PM, alex23 wrote:
> tl;dr Stop acting like a troll and we'll stop perceiving you as such.
This being Python-list, we duck-type. You don't have to declare that
you're a troll, like you would in C; you just react like a troll and
we'll treat you as one. We never ask "ar
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 6:15 AM, Guy Scree wrote:
> I recommend that all participants in this thread, especially Alex and
> Anton, research the term "Pathological Altruism"
I don't intend to buy a book about it, but based on flipping through a
few Google results and snippets, I'm thinking that th
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:03 AM, wrote:
>> if Python had perfect documentation,
>> he still wouldn't read it.
>
> If your crystal ball is that good, could you try using it
> to solve some of Nikos' problems?
I have done so, many times. Sometimes it helps, often it doesn't.
Once, it led me to ac
On Jun 18, 2:19 am, Simpleton wrote:
> I like things to be put up simple and i'am not trolling this group.
> I respect this group.
There are a number of things you could to do confirm this:
1. Stop changing your name.
2. Stop bumping your threads if no one responds.
3. Stop exaggerating the "ben
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Steven D'Aprano <
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 07:41:54 -0700, rurpy wrote:
>
> > On 06/17/2013 01:23 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Ferrous Cranus
> >> wrote:
> >>> The only thing i'm feeling
On 06/17/2013 04:22 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 17/06/2013 15:41, ru...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> It is NOT a matter of simply reading the documentation.
>> I have posted here several times as have many others about
>> some of the problems the documentation has, especially for
>> people who don't alrea
On 06/17/2013 03:43 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:41 AM, wrote:
>> On 06/17/2013 01:23 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Ferrous Cranus
>>> wrote:
The only thing i'm feeling guilty is that instead of reading help files and
PEP's wh
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 09:31:53 +0200, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> Op 16-06-13 22:04, Steven D'Aprano schreef:
>> On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:16:34 +0200, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>>
>>> You are trying to get it both ways. On the one hand you try to argue
>>> that there are no boundaries
>> I have never, ever argu
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 07:41:54 -0700, rurpy wrote:
> On 06/17/2013 01:23 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Ferrous Cranus
>> wrote:
>>> The only thing i'm feeling guilty is that instead of reading help
>>> files and PEP's which seem too technical for me, i prefer the liv
On 17/06/2013 15:41, ru...@yahoo.com wrote:
It is NOT a matter of simply reading the documentation.
I have posted here several times as have many others about
some of the problems the documentation has, especially for
people who don't already know Python.
It's extremely easy to change the Pyt
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:41 AM, wrote:
> On 06/17/2013 01:23 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
>>> The only thing i'm feeling guilty is that instead of reading help files and
>>> PEP's which seem too technical for me, i prefer the live help of
I recommend that all participants in this thread, especially Alex and
Anton, research the term "Pathological Altruism"
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On 06/17/2013 02:15 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> Op 17-06-13 05:46, ru...@yahoo.com schreef:
>> On 06/16/2013 02:04 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>
>>> Yes. Trying to start flame wars with Nikos is unacceptable behaviour. It
>>> is unproductive, it makes this a hostile, unpleasant place to be, it
>>>
On 17/6/2013 8:42 μμ, Oscar Benjamin wrote:
On 17 June 2013 17:35, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 14:39:56 + (UTC)
Grant Edwards wrote:
I don't want _any_ copies from from Mailman. I don't subscribe to
whatever mailing list you're talking about. I'm reading this via an
NNTP
On 17 June 2013 17:35, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 14:39:56 + (UTC)
> Grant Edwards wrote:
>> I don't want _any_ copies from from Mailman. I don't subscribe to
>> whatever mailing list you're talking about. I'm reading this via an
>> NNTP server. Keep replies in the group
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 14:39:56 + (UTC)
Grant Edwards wrote:
> I don't want _any_ copies from from Mailman. I don't subscribe to
> whatever mailing list you're talking about. I'm reading this via an
> NNTP server. Keep replies in the group or on the list.
And that is part of the problem. I h
On 17/6/2013 7:14 μμ, Grant Edwards wrote:
But failing _isn't_ inevitible. If you take the time to actually
learn Python by reading the references people provide, by studying
small examples, and by experimenting with Python code, there's no
reason why you should fail.
I'am and i feel better ex
On 2013-06-17, Simpleton wrote:
> On 16/6/2013 9:39 , Antoon Pardon wrote:
>> If nikos's project was a college project we would have told
>> him he has to make his homework himself.
>
> This is where you all mistaken.
>
> You see, my website could be done ina CMS like (Joomla or Drupal) or
>
On 16/6/2013 9:39 μμ, Antoon Pardon wrote:
If nikos's project was a college project we would have told
him he has to make his homework himself.
This is where you all mistaken.
You see, my website could be done ina CMS like (Joomla or Drupal) or
even in DreamWeaver.
I choosed Python because
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> Op 15-06-13 21:54, ru...@yahoo.com schreef:
>
> On 06/15/2013 12:18 PM, rusi wrote:
>>
>>> On Jun 15, 10:52 pm, Steven D'Aprano>> +comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.**info >
>>> wrote:
>>>
On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 10:36:00 -0700, rusi wrote:
Op 15-06-13 21:54, ru...@yahoo.com schreef:
On 06/15/2013 12:18 PM, rusi wrote:
On Jun 15, 10:52 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 10:36:00 -0700, rusi wrote:
With you as our spamming-guru, Onward! Sky is the limit!
If you're going to continue making unproductive, off-topic, in
On 15 Jun 2013 15:40:35 GMT
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 07:58:27 -0400, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote:
> > I suggested including the poster that you are replying to.
>
> In the name of all that's good and decent in the world, why on earth
> would you do that when replying to a mailing
On 06/17/2013 01:23 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
>> The only thing i'm feeling guilty is that instead of reading help files and
>> PEP's which seem too technical for me, i prefer the live help of an actual
>> expert human being.
>
> This is de
On 2013-06-15, Chris ???Kwpolska??? Warrick wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 07:58:27 -0400, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote:
>>
>>> I suggested including the poster that you are replying to.
>>
>> In the name of all that's good and decent in the wor
Op 17-06-13 07:04, Ferrous Cranus schreef:
> On 17/6/2013 6:46 πμ, ru...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> I could be wrong but I don't think Nikos is a pure troll --
>> someone motivated purely by provoking reaction and discord.
>> He has a real website and his problems with Python seem like
>> genuine problem
Op 17-06-13 05:46, ru...@yahoo.com schreef:
> On 06/16/2013 02:04 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
>> Yes. Trying to start flame wars with Nikos is unacceptable behaviour. It
>> is unproductive, it makes this a hostile, unpleasant place to be, it
>> ruins the environment for the rest of the community
Op 16-06-13 22:04, Steven D'Aprano schreef:
> On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:16:34 +0200, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>
>> You are trying to get it both ways. On the one hand you try to argue
>> that there are no boundaries
> I have never, ever argued that there are no boundaries. I have repeatedly
> made it cl
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
> The only thing i'm feeling guilty is that instead of reading help files and
> PEP's which seem too technical for me, i prefer the live help of an actual
> expert human being.
>
This is definitely a reason to feel guilty. You are asking peo
On Jun 16, 12:54 am, ru...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> ... killfile him and shut the fuck up.
Ok. Advice taken. Thanks.
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On 17/6/2013 6:46 πμ, ru...@yahoo.com wrote:
I could be wrong but I don't think Nikos is a pure troll --
someone motivated purely by provoking reaction and discord.
He has a real website and his problems with Python seem like
genuine problems many beginners have. He seems to have little
knowledg
On 06/16/2013 02:04 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:16:34 +0200, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>
>> You are trying to get it both ways. On the one hand you try to argue
>> that there are no boundaries
>
> I have never, ever argued that there are no boundaries. I have repeatedly
> mad
On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:16:34 +0200, Antoon Pardon wrote:
> You are trying to get it both ways. On the one hand you try to argue
> that there are no boundaries
I have never, ever argued that there are no boundaries. I have repeatedly
made it clear to Nikos when I thought he was behaving improper
's nothing I can do about it.
Yes you can. You can stop enabling his behaviour. Now you may think
this is an unacceptable option for and that is something you will
have to decide for yourself but you do have a choice.
Everyone is exasperated and talking of kill-filing him.
Then why don
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 12:51:04AM +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 09:09:37 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > Mailman is the software that runs python-list@python.org, so this
> > *is* applicable to everyone who reads the mailing list (including
> > myself). The fact that there'
On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 09:09:37 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 3:47 AM, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:25:21 +0200, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick wrote:
>>> The source code seems to think otherwise:
>>
>> Mailman is not the only mailing list software in the wor
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 3:47 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:25:21 +0200, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick wrote:
>> The source code seems to think otherwise:
>
> Mailman is not the only mailing list software in the world, and the
> feature you are referring to is optional.
>
>> http:/
On 15/06/2013 22:47, alex23 wrote:
On Jun 16, 5:29 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
And others have publicly thanked me for giving useful answers to Nikos,
because they have learned from them.
I take it you'll also be critical of people on list now saying "we
don't do your homework for you"? Or is
On Jun 16, 5:29 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> And others have publicly thanked me for giving useful answers to Nikos,
> because they have learned from them.
I take it you'll also be critical of people on list now saying "we
don't do your homework for you"? Or is there some fundamental
difference h
On Saturday, June 15, 2013 2:04:31 PM UTC-6, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote:
> Thank you ruspy.
Don't thank me. You are not contributing in a positive way to the situation.
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On 15/6/2013 10:54 μμ, ru...@yahoo.com wrote:
On 06/15/2013 12:18 PM, rusi wrote:
On Jun 15, 10:52 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 10:36:00 -0700, rusi wrote:
With you as our spamming-guru, Onward! Sky is the limit!
If you're going to continue making unproductive, off-topic,
On 06/15/2013 12:18 PM, rusi wrote:
> On Jun 15, 10:52 pm, Steven D'Aprano +comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 10:36:00 -0700, rusi wrote:
>> > With you as our spamming-guru, Onward! Sky is the limit!
>>
>> If you're going to continue making unproductive, off-topic, infl
Nikos-tainted.
That would be disappointing, but there's nothing I can do about it.
> Everyone is exasperated and talking of kill-filing him.
Then why don't they? "Don't feed the troll" includes trying to beat him
into submission with insults and half-witty remarks.
Th
On 15/6/2013 8:47 μμ, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I still get two copies if you CC me. That's still unnecessary and rude.
If I wanted a copy emailed to me, I'd subscribe via email rather than via
news. Whether you agree or not, I'd appreciate if you respect my wishes
rather than try to wiggle out of
On Jun 15, 10:52 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 10:36:00 -0700, rusi wrote:
> > With you as our spamming-guru, Onward! Sky is the limit!
>
> If you're going to continue making unproductive, off-topic, inflammatory
> posts that prolong these already excessively large threads, Niko
Nick the Gr33k wrote:
>You are spamming my thread.
Well, you don't own this thread. In fact nobody owns it. This is a
public forum and thus anybody can answer to any post as he likes.
Bye, Andreas
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On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 10:36:00 -0700, rusi wrote:
> With you as our spamming-guru, Onward! Sky is the limit!
If you're going to continue making unproductive, off-topic, inflammatory
posts that prolong these already excessively large threads, Nikos won't
be the only one kill-filed.
If you have no
On 15/06/2013 18:30, Nick the Gr33k wrote:
On 15/6/2013 7:41 μμ, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick wrote:
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 07:58:27 -0400, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote:
I suggested including the poster that you are replying to.
In the name of all
On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:25:21 +0200, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:07 PM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain
> wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 18:41:41 +0200
>> Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick wrote:
>>> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Steven D'Aprano
>>> wrote:
>>> > In the name of all that
On 06/15/2013 11:30 AM, Nick the Gr33k wrote:
> You are spamming my thread.
No he's not. The subject is changed on this branch of the thread, so
it's easy to see in any good e-mail reader that this sub-thread or
branch is diverting. This is proper list etiquette.
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On Jun 15, 10:30 pm, Nick the Gr33k wrote:
>
> You are spamming my thread.
With you as our spamming-guru, Onward! Sky is the limit!
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On 15/6/2013 7:41 μμ, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick wrote:
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 07:58:27 -0400, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote:
I suggested including the poster that you are replying to.
In the name of all that's good and decent in the world, why on
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:07 PM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 18:41:41 +0200
> Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick wrote:
>> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Steven D'Aprano
>> wrote:
>> > In the name of all that's good and decent in the world, why on earth
>> > would you do that when repl
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 01:07:29PM -0400, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 18:41:41 +0200 Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > > In the name of all that's good and decent in the world, why on earth
> > > would you do that when
On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 18:41:41 +0200, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 07:58:27 -0400, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote:
>>
>>> I suggested including the poster that you are replying to.
>>
>> In the name of all that's good and
On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 18:41:41 +0200
Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
> > In the name of all that's good and decent in the world, why on earth
> > would you do that when replying to a mailing list??? They're already
> > getting a reply. Sen
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 07:58:27 -0400, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote:
>
>> I suggested including the poster that you are replying to.
>
> In the name of all that's good and decent in the world, why on earth
> would you do that when replying to a mail
On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 07:58:27 -0400, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote:
> I suggested including the poster that you are replying to.
In the name of all that's good and decent in the world, why on earth
would you do that when replying to a mailing list??? They're already
getting a reply. Sending them TWO id
On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 21:29:35 +1000
Ben Finney wrote:
> > Bah. Plenty of us like both. In the inbox alerts me that someone
> > replied to _my_ post, and in the python mail gets it nicely
> > threaded.
>
> Your mail client doesn't alert you to a message addressed to you?
Every message in my mailbo
Cameron Simpson writes:
> On 15Jun2013 10:42, Ben Finney wrote:
> | The message sent to the individual typically arrives earlier (since
> | it is sent straight from you to the individual), and the message on
> | the forum arrives later (since it typically requires more
> | processing).
> |
> |
On 2013-06-15 03:09, Cameron Simpson wrote:
On 15Jun2013 10:42, Ben Finney wrote:
| "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" writes:
| Even for those who do participate by email, though, your approach is
| broken:
| > My answer is simple. Get a proper email system that filters out
| > duplicates.
|
| The message se
:
On 14 June 2013 08:50, Nick the Gr33k wrote:
>
> So, if i had no interest of actually learning python i would just cut n'
> paste provided code without worrying what it actually does, since knowing
> that came form you would be enough to know that works.
Worrying what it actually does is good;
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:32:56 +0300, Nick the Gr33k wrote:
> I'mm not trolling man, i just have hard time understanding why numbers
> acts as strings.
It depends on the context.
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On 15Jun2013 10:42, Ben Finney wrote:
| "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" writes:
| Even for those who do participate by email, though, your approach is
| broken:
| > My answer is simple. Get a proper email system that filters out
| > duplicates.
|
| The message sent to the individual typically arrives earlie
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