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Nick Vargish wrote: Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Guido is the one, who should care by time about the status of the python-community. That one crashed my parser. Sounds like a new Ministry song - "Guido Crashed my Parser". Could be the sequel to "Jesus Built My Hot Rod". -- http:/

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Stephen Kellett wrote: [...] Who's Guido? Guido is the one, who should care by time about the status of the python-community. Who is care by time? -- Stephen Kellett Object Media Limitedhttp://www.objmedia.demon.co.uk

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Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Guido is the one, who should care by time about the status of the > python-community. That one crashed my parser. > Thank's for every bit of contribution, which has made this thread an > worthfull insight into the python-community. To really get a s

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upport for MinGW Open Source Compiler Essence: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/5ba2a0ba55d4c102 - Thank's for every bit of contribution, which has made this thread an worthfull insight into the python-community. . -- http://lazaridis.com -- http://mail.python.org/m

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people are just poking you with a stick to > watch you jump? jump: [EVALUATION] - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler Essence: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/5ba2a0ba55d4c102 Lol, this guy is hopeless :-) Who's Guido? -- Stephen Kellett Object Media Limi

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u jump? > > jump: > > [EVALUATION] - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler > Essence: > http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/5ba2a0ba55d4c102 Lol, this guy is hopeless :-) George -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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Grant Edwards wrote: [...] Um, you realize that nobody in this thread takes you the least bit seriously and people are just poking you with a stick to watch you jump? jump: [EVALUATION] - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler Essence: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg

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elong to us. >>> - >> >> For great justice! >> >> ;o) > > [EVALUATION] - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler > Essence: > http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/5ba2a0ba55d4c102 Um, you realize that nobody in this

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VALUATION] - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler Essence: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/5ba2a0ba55d4c102 . -- http://lazaridis.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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Fredrik Lundh schrieb: +00: googled for the mingw home page +00: found the mingw download page +02: finally figured out what to download +03: noticed that my usual SF site only offered 1K/s; aborted download +07: finished downloading the mingw kit from another SF site +17: f

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George Sakkis wrote: "Ilias Lazaridis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Nick Vargish wrote: You can excuse yourself from this one and stop replying to comments, but you don't get to unilaterally declare a discussion over. [...] The discussion is over. At least the in-top

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- All your thread are belong to us. This is true ["us" = a few off-topic-freaks] - - - George [EVALUATION] - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler Essence: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/5ba2a0ba55d4c102 . -- http://lazaridis.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've never understood the problem with long URLs. Many > newsreaders let you click on them. If not, you just cut/paste > it into a browser (with a shellscript a couple lines long, you > can start firefox with the URL on the X clipboard with a single >

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"Ilias Lazaridis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Nick Vargish wrote: > > You can excuse yourself from this one and stop replying to comments, > > but you don't get to unilaterally declare a discussion over. > [...] > > The discussion is over. > > At least the in-topi

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> I've never understood the problem with long URLs. Many > newsreaders let you click on them. If not, you just cut/paste > it into a browser (with a shellscript a couple lines long, you > can start firefox with the URL on the X clipboard with a single > command). Some break the urls - so copy an

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Nick Vargish wrote: Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Now it's really time to close this thread. I suspect this will fall of deaf ears, but I have to mention that you do not get to "close threads" on Usenet. this is obvious. You can excuse yourself from this one and stop replying to comm

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On 2005-02-20, Nick Vargish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "BrainDead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I believe that you are wasting your time. Looking at your email >> address, this may well be relevant. > [ 4-line URL snipped ] > > Thanks for the historical reference. Please consider a visit t

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Nick Vargish schreef: > Please consider a visit to > tinyurl.com before posting a monster like that... :^) As long as he also posts the full URL... -- JanC "Be strict when sending and tolerant when receiving." RFC 1958 - Architectural Principles of the Internet - section 3.9 -- http://mail.py

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Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Should a professional developer take python serious? A *professionnal developper*, yes. But this is irrelevant to you. -- bruno desthuilliers python -c "print '@'.join(['.'.join([w[::-1] for w in p.split('.')]) for p in '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'.split('@')])" -- http://mail.python

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Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: [...] closing thread http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/f2ae9cdbe16676d1 Nope. You are not entitled to close thread. This is irrelevant. -- bruno desthuilliers python -c "print '@'.join(['.'.join([w[::-1] for w in p.split('.')]

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Nick Vargish wrote: > "BrainDead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I believe that you are wasting your time. Looking at your email > > address, this may well be relevant. > [ 4-line URL snipped ] > > Thanks for the historical reference. Please consider a visit to > tinyurl.com before posting a

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Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Now it's really time to close this thread. I suspect this will fall of deaf ears, but I have to mention that you do not get to "close threads" on Usenet. You can excuse yourself from this one and stop replying to comments, but you don't get to unilate

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Martin v. Löwis: > So I have to guess what you could have meant. If you want > to be understood, you might have phrased the question like > this: > > "Should I take answers from people which do not respect coherence > of writings serious?" The main grammatical problem with the question is the

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"BrainDead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I believe that you are wasting your time. Looking at your email > address, this may well be relevant. [ 4-line URL snipped ] Thanks for the historical reference. Please consider a visit to tinyurl.com before posting a monster like that... :^) Nick --

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Summarized Suggestions for the Python Team, PSF, Community): - - - An automated-build-process-system should allow community-members to add their targets (e.g. MinGW) into an special "incubation section", which does not in any way affect the "main section" (which contains the official production

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Martin v. Löwis wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Should I take answers serious? [...] Answer from people which do not respect coherence of writings? [...] I still detect the coherence. As most people in this group will detect the coherence. I don't. The second fragment is not even correct English [...

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[Snip] Martin, I believe that you are wasting your time. Looking at your email address, this may well be relevant. http://groups-beta.google.com/group/de.admin.net-abuse.news/browse_frm/thread/8914399857641c05/4163a4fb8a624349?q=Ilias&_done=%2Fgroup%2Fde.admin.net-abuse.news%2Fsearch%3Fgroup%3D

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Nick Coghlan wrote: > Pat wrote: > > On Windows, most users are used to installing precompiled binary > > packages, rather than compiling from source. When you do have to > > compile from source, it often requires you to fiddle with nitty gritty > > details about which you'd rather remain ignorant

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On 2005-02-20, Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> If you would have written: >> >> """ >> Should I take answers serious? Answer from people which do not respect >> coherence of writings? >> """ >> >> it would have been much more coherent. > > I understand. I doubt it. > I still det

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Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Should I take answers serious? . . . . Answer from people which do not respect coherence of writings? - - - I still detect the coherence. As most people in this group will detect the coherence. I don't. The second fragment is not even correct English (it does not have a verb

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Ilias Lazaridis wrote: > I understand. no. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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Jan Dries wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: [...] - (things which justify inability of coherence-detection) If you would have written: """ Should I take answers serious? Answer from people which do not respect coherence of writings? """ it would have been much more coherent. I understand. Let's see:

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Ilias Lazaridis wrote: they above 2 questions are coherent, thus answering isolated [as you've done] makes not much sense. " >> Should I take answers serious? >> Answer from people which do not respect coherence of writings? " Except that the quote here above is NOT what was in your original p

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[snip, Ilias would not understand it] > P.S. if Ilias volunteers, or offers to pay someone to do this, instead of just > complaining, will hell freeze over?) Nick, There is about as much chance of hell freezing over as there is of England beating Australia in the cricket this summer. [I'am a hal

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Martin v. Löwis wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Should I take answers serious? If not, why are you asking questions in the first place? simply read the next question, which limits the scope of the first one. Answer from people which do not respect coherence of writings? Coherence of writings? An exam

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> If you put yourself into the shoes of someone who decides to use a > Python product that requires compiling, and that product contains C > extensions that also need compiling, you'll see that it doesn't matter > whether or not that individual has actually written a single line of > Python themsel

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Pat wrote: On Windows, most users are used to installing precompiled binary packages, rather than compiling from source. When you do have to compile from source, it often requires you to fiddle with nitty gritty details about which you'd rather remain ignorant. The less fiddling required, the hap

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Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Should I take answers serious? If not, why are you asking questions in the first place? Answer from people which do not respect coherence of writings? Coherence of writings? Should a professional developer take python serious? Yes. I mean, if the team does not manage at least

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Fredrik Lundh wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Should a professional developer take python serious? yes. Should I take answers serious? yes. Answer from people which do not respect coherence of writings? coherence of writings? Ironic, is it not? I think he's referring to the fact that you snipped

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Ilias Lazaridis wrote: >>>Should a professional developer take python serious? >> >> yes. > > Should I take answers serious? yes. > Answer from people which do not respect coherence of writings? coherence of writings? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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Ilias Lazaridis wrote: > Should a professional developer take python serious? yes. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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Martin v. Löwis wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Should a professional developer take python serious? Yes. Should I take answers serious? Answer from people which do not respect coherence of writings? " Should a professional developer take python serious? I mean, if the team does not manage at least t

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Fredrik Lundh wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Should a professional developer take python serious? yes. Should I take answers serious? Answer from people which do not respect coherence of writings? " Should a professional developer take python serious? I mean, if the team does not manage at least the

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A.B., Khalid wrote: [...] - (comments) I've just overflown your comments for a few seconds. And I got my confirmations. Thank you for your time. -- pyMinGW: http://jove.prohosting.com/iwave/ipython/pyMinGW.html . -- http://lazaridis.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Should a professional developer take python serious? Yes. Regards, Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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Diez B. Roggisch wrote: > > >> Just out of curiousity: How many python extensions are you planning to > >> write? > > > > I estimate 10 to 100, depending on abstractional capabilities of the > > extension system. > > > >> And how many lines of pure python code have you written in your life? > > > >

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Ilias Lazaridis wrote: > A.B., Khalid wrote: > > Ilias Lazaridis wrote: > > > >>The first step is to make a pyMinGW project. > > > > You are mistaken. The first steps are the following: > [...] - (nonrelevant comments) > > > 3) Realizing that there _is_ already a project called pyMinGW! That it > >

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Diez B. Roggisch wrote: Thank you for the links. They are irrelevant for me. As usual. sorry. Just out of curiousity: How many python extensions are you planning to write? I estimate 10 to 100, depending on abstractional capabilities of the extension system. And how many lines of pure python code

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> Thank you for the links. > > They are irrelevant for me. As usual. >> Just out of curiousity: How many python extensions are you planning to >> write? > > I estimate 10 to 100, depending on abstractional capabilities of the > extension system. > >> And how many lines of pure python code hav

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Diez B. Roggisch wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Diez B. Roggisch wrote: Should a professional developer take python serious? [...] - (ungentle babbling after disrupting coherence of writings) And that from you *lol* Of course. I respect the "coherence of writings" of my conversation partners. [I

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Ilias Lazaridis wrote: > Should a professional developer take python serious? yes. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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Ilias Lazaridis wrote: > Diez B. Roggisch wrote: >>>Should a professional developer take python serious? > [...] - (ungentle babbling after disrupting coherence of writings) And that from you *lol* > I mean, if the team does not manage at least the foundation of a > multi-target automated-bu

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Diez B. Roggisch wrote: Should a professional developer take python serious? [...] - (ungentle babbling after disrupting coherence of writings) " Should a professional developer take python serious? I mean, if the team does not manage at least the foundation of a multi-target automated-build-proce

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> Unnecessary and deliberately provoking question - python is taken > seriously, e.g. by multi-billion dollar companies like google and zope. Of course zope corporation is not amongst the multi-billion dollar companies - by now. But who knows :) -- Regards, Diez B. Roggisch -- http://mail.pyth

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> Should a professional developer take python serious? Unnecessary and deliberately provoking question - python is taken seriously, e.g. by multi-billion dollar companies like google and zope. You OTH have provided no evidence so far that you can be taken seriously as a developer of whatever kind

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Martin v. Löwis wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: My questions: It appears that nobody has answered the questions, yet. a) Why does the Python Foundation not provide additionally a binary version, compiled with MinGW or another open-source compiler? We don't have the resources to do that. Should a pro

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Ilias Lazaridis wrote: My questions: It appears that nobody has answered the questions, yet. a) Why does the Python Foundation not provide additionally a binary version, compiled with MinGW or another open-source compiler? We don't have the resources to do that. b) Why does the Python Foundation n

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A.B., Khalid wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: The first step is to make a pyMinGW project. You are mistaken. The first steps are the following: [...] - (nonrelevant comments) 3) Realizing that there _is_ already a project called pyMinGW! That it does not fit your requirements-- whatever these maybe--

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Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Duncan Booth wrote: [...] > > It is GPL licensed with an amendment which prevents the GPL > > spreading to other open source software with which it is linked. > > "In accordance with section 10 of the GPL, Red Hat, Inc. permits > > programs whose sour

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Ilias Lazaridis wrote: > The first step is to make a pyMinGW project. > You are mistaken. The first steps are the following: 1) Realizing that a project _must_ start not because you want it to, but because those who are willing to work on it think it is worth the extra effort for it to. 2) Reali

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Robert Kern schreef: > And yet there is not one company that has someone devoted full-time to > developing Python. Except for 'future Python' aka PyPy... :) -- JanC "Be strict when sending and tolerant when receiving." RFC 1958

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Josef Meile wrote: It looks like here the only worth words are yours. Didn't you close this thread? yes, but when reviewing again I found this lack [created by myself due to private conversation]. I will refresh your mind with your own unpolite way: I find this very polite [to notify conversation

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It looks like here the only worth words are yours. Didn't you close this thread? I will refresh your mind with your own unpolite way: """ Ilias Lazaridis wrote: [...] closing thread http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/f2ae9cdbe16676d1 """ Anyway, I will add some comments: The d

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[this is a summary of a private conversation that I had with the developer of the phMinGW. It contains just my comments. I've send additionally a CC via email (private-to-public switch notification)] - A.B., Khalid wrote: [...] Khalid, first of all I like to thank you for the efforts you have ta

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Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: [...] closing thread http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/f2ae9cdbe16676d1 . -- http://lazaridis.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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Mike Meyer wrote: [...] closing thread http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/f2ae9cdbe16676d1 . -- http://lazaridis.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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Stephen Kellett wrote: [...] closing thread http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/f2ae9cdbe16676d1 . -- http://lazaridis.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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Joe Francia wrote: [...] http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/f2ae9cdbe16676d1 . -- http://lazaridis.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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Michael Hoffman schrieb: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: But don't act like the volunteers who develop Python owe you a version of Python that runs out of the box on MinGW. They don't, anymore than you owe *me* a version of Python that runs out of the box on MinGW. Please, leave him alone. When he posted he

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Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mike Meyer wrote: >> Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>>Mike Meyer wrote: >>> >It is an community need. Based on the evidence at hand, this is a false statement. >>> >>>It is an community need [at least partially] >> Repeati

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On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 17:24, Jeff Shannon wrote: > Ilias Lazaridis wrote: > > > Adam DePrince wrote: > > [...] > >> You're on it. You drive a car? You have to treat it right to get what > >> you want, right? Same here. Ask correctly, and you will get your > >> answers. > > Your interpretatio

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes MinGW compatibility is not [only] my need. It is an community need [at least partially] Clearly not. If it was, using your logic, it would already exist. -- Stephen Kellett Object Media Limitedhttp://www.objmedia.demon.

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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes The community is everyone around python (including me at this moment). Based on the communities response to you (and the similar response you are getting in c.l.ruby) you are not a member of either community as you contin

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Ilias Lazaridis a écrit : bruno modulix wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: (snip) impressive. but things are much simpler. Could you be more prolific ? Please explain the word "prolific". Say more -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Adam DePrince wrote: [...] You're on it. You drive a car? You have to treat it right to get what you want, right? Same here. Ask correctly, and you will get your answers. Your interpretation/definition of "asking correctly" is irrelevant to me. "Interpretation is irrel

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On 2005-02-15, bruno modulix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ilias Lazaridis wrote: > >> impressive. >> >> but things are much simpler. > > Could you be more prolific ? Good god, let's hope not! -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I'm working under

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In his 15 post on this thread within 5 hours, "Ilias Lazaridis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > Please explain the word "prolific". -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Joe Francia wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: [...] MinGW compatibility is not [only] my need. It is an community need [at least partially] You keep using that word "community". I do not think it means what you think it means. The community is everyone around python (including

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I'm 'closing' this thread now [means that I do possibly not respond anymore to messages]. Thank you for your time and effort. . -- http://lazaridis.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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Tim Peters wrote: [...] - (thorough comments) Thank you very much for your thoroug comments. . -- http://lazaridis.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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Mike Meyer wrote: Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joe Francia wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: [...] MinGW compatibility is not [only] my need. It is an community need [at least partially] You keep using that word "community". I do not think it means what you think it means. The community

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Mike Meyer wrote: Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mike Meyer wrote: It is an community need. Based on the evidence at hand, this is a false statement. It is an community need [at least partially] Repeating a falsehood will not make it true. Can you offer anything besides your own whinin

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Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Joe Francia wrote: >> Ilias Lazaridis wrote: > [...] >>> MinGW compatibility is not [only] my need. >>> >>> It is an community need [at least partially] >> You keep using that word "community". I do not think it means what >> you think it means. > > Th

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Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mike Meyer wrote: >>>It is an community need. >> Based on the evidence at hand, this is a false statement. > It is an community need [at least partially] Repeating a falsehood will not make it true. Can you offer anything besides your own whining to

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Adam DePrince wrote: [...] If the community needs it, a member of said community has both complete unfettered freedom and a supportive environment to make it. Which is this "supportive environment"? You're on it. You drive a car? You have to treat it right to get what you want, right? Same he

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On 2005-02-15, Adam DePrince <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You didn't intent to, but you begging. Sure, you save some face by not > obviously groveling, but that only makes the slight worse. Now somebody > asked that you to read > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html. Read it in

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On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 14:25, Ilias Lazaridis wrote: > Adam DePrince wrote: > > On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 13:29, Ilias Lazaridis wrote: > >>Mike Meyer wrote: > >>>Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [...] > >>MinGW compatibility is not [only] my need. > >> > >>It is an community need [at least

Re: [EVALUATION] - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

Joe Francia wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: [...] MinGW compatibility is not [only] my need. It is an community need [at least partially] You keep using that word "community". I do not think it means what you think it means. The community is everyone around python (including me at this moment). We c

Re: [EVALUATION] - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

[Tim Peters] >> Well, I'm a Director of the Python Software Foundation, and my view is >> "the more platforms the merrier". [Ilias Lazaridis] > I extract: "you are intrested, that the source-code-base compiles > directly with MinGW (and other compilers)". Sure, I'm in favor of that. I'm also in

Re: [EVALUATION] - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Mike Meyer wrote: Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MinGW compatibility is not my need. Then why do you waste so much effort whining about it not being given to you? It is an community need. Based on the evidence at hand, this is a false statement. MinGW co

Re: [EVALUATION] - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

bruno modulix wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: bruno modulix wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: there are other reasons behind the decision to not support the MinGW open-source-complier directly out of the main source-code base. Yes, of course. The reason is they are lying about their commitment to open

Re: [EVALUATION] - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

Adam DePrince wrote: On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 13:29, Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Mike Meyer wrote: Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] MinGW compatibility is not [only] my need. It is an community need [at least partially] And herein lies the beauty of the noble meritocratic free software mov

Re: [EVALUATION] - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 13:29, Ilias Lazaridis wrote: > Mike Meyer wrote: > > Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >>MinGW compatibility is not my need. > > > > Then why do you waste so much effort whining about it not being given > > to you? > > > >>It is an community need. > > > >

Re: [EVALUATION] - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

Ilias Lazaridis wrote: bruno modulix wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: there are other reasons behind the decision to not support the MinGW open-source-complier directly out of the main source-code base. Yes, of course. The reason is they are lying about their commitment to open source. They are cur

Re: [EVALUATION] - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

Mike Meyer wrote: Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MinGW compatibility is not my need. Then why do you waste so much effort whining about it not being given to you? It is an community need. Based on the evidence at hand, this is a false statement. MinGW compatibility is not [only]

Re: [EVALUATION] - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

bruno modulix wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: there are other reasons behind the decision to not support the MinGW open-source-complier directly out of the main source-code base. Yes, of course. The reason is they are lying about their commitment to open source. They are currently trying to port P

Re: [EVALUATION] - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

Ilias Lazaridis wrote: there are other reasons behind the decision to not support the MinGW open-source-complier directly out of the main source-code base. Yes, of course. The reason is they are lying about their commitment to open source. They are currently trying to port Python to .NET, and wh

Re: [EVALUATION] - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > MinGW compatibility is not my need. Then why do you waste so much effort whining about it not being given to you? > It is an community need. Based on the evidence at hand, this is a false statement. http://www.mired.org/home

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Fredrik Lundh wrote: > "Pat" wrote: > > > A few things. Primarily the fact that I'm not very experienced in C > > (the extensions that I need to have compiled are not written by me). > > Secondarily, the fact that the discussion threads I read made it seem > > much more complicated than what you j

Re: [EVALUATION] - E02 - Support for MinGW Open Source Compiler

Stephen Kellett wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes The answer to most of your questions is, "Because no one has yet volunteered their time and effort to get the job done." this answer do not fit in most questions. please review them again. There you

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