Re: Terry Jones: "Monty Python to reunite for stage show"

2013-11-19 Thread Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Thomas Heller wrote: > "All of the surviving members of comedy group Monty Python are to reform for > a stage show, one of the Pythons, Terry Jones, has confirmed." > > See: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24999401 &

Terry Jones: "Monty Python to reunite for stage show"

2013-11-19 Thread Thomas Heller
"All of the surviving members of comedy group Monty Python are to reform for a stage show, one of the Pythons, Terry Jones, has confirmed." See: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24999401 Thomas -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Vowels [was Re: "monty" < "python"]

2013-03-24 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 24/03/2013 14:25, Stefan Behnel wrote: Terry Reedy, 22.03.2013 00:05: I never imagined that there were people who would mix up 'tuner' and 'tuna'. Live and learn. I assume you know "The Chaos" ? http://ncf.idallen.com/english.html Stefan For many years I've felt it was wrong that peop

Re: Vowels [was Re: "monty" < "python"]

2013-03-24 Thread rusi
On Mar 24, 7:25 pm, Stefan Behnel wrote: > > I assume you know "The Chaos" ? > > http://ncf.idallen.com/english.html Ha! Sweet! (Or should I say suet?) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Vowels [was Re: "monty" < "python"]

2013-03-24 Thread Stefan Behnel
Terry Reedy, 22.03.2013 00:05: > I never imagined that there were people who would mix up 'tuner' and > 'tuna'. Live and learn. I assume you know "The Chaos" ? http://ncf.idallen.com/english.html Stefan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: "monty" < "python"

2013-03-24 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 24/03/2013 13:31, jmfauth wrote: The problem here is that this PEP 393 should not have been created. The first time I read it, I quickly understood, it can not work! How come you couldn't pursuade the Python devs that PEP393 was so flawed? This is illustrated by all the examples I give o

Re: "monty" < "python"

2013-03-24 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:31 AM, jmfauth wrote: > The problem here is that this PEP 393 should not have been > created. > The first time I read it, I quickly understood, it can > not work! I fail to understand how something can "not work" when it is clearly working, and very successfully too, in

Re: "monty" < "python"

2013-03-24 Thread jmfauth
On 23 mar, 17:17, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 23/03/2013 09:24, jmfauth wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 20 mar, 22:02, Tim Delaney wrote: > >> On 21 March 2013 06:40, jmfauth wrote: > > >>> > >>> [snip usual rant from jmf] > > >> It has been acknowledged as a real regression, but he keeps hij

Re: "monty" < "python"

2013-03-23 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 23/03/2013 09:24, jmfauth wrote: On 20 mar, 22:02, Tim Delaney wrote: On 21 March 2013 06:40, jmfauth wrote: [snip usual rant from jmf] It has been acknowledged as a real regression, but he keeps hijacking every thread where strings are mentioned to harp on about it. He has sh

Re: "monty" < "python"

2013-03-23 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 23/03/2013 09:23, jmfauth wrote: On 21 mar, 04:12, rusi wrote: On Mar 21, 12:40 am, jmfauth wrote: Courageous people can try to do something with the unicode collation algorithm (see unicode.org). Some time ago, for the fun, I wrote something (not perfect) with a reduced keys tabl

Re: "monty" < "python"

2013-03-23 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 8:45 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 8:23 PM, jmfauth wrote: >> One aspect of Unicode (note the capitalized "U"). >> >> [chomp yet another trivial microbenchmark] >> >> --- >> >> In French, depending of the word, a leading "h", behaves >> as a vowel or

Re: "monty" < "python"

2013-03-23 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 8:23 PM, jmfauth wrote: > One aspect of Unicode (note the capitalized "U"). > > [chomp yet another trivial microbenchmark] > > --- > > In French, depending of the word, a leading "h", behaves > as a vowel or as a consonant. > (From this -> this typical mistake) Huh? Did jm

Re: "monty" < "python"

2013-03-23 Thread jmfauth
On 21 mar, 04:12, rusi wrote: > On Mar 21, 12:40 am, jmfauth wrote: > > > > > > Courageous people can try to do something with the unicode > > collation algorithm (see unicode.org). Some time ago, for the fun, > > I wrote something (not perfect) with a reduced keys table (see > > unicode.org

Re: "monty" < "python"

2013-03-23 Thread jmfauth
On 20 mar, 22:02, Tim Delaney wrote: > On 21 March 2013 06:40, jmfauth wrote: > > > > > [snip usual rant from jmf] > > > It has been acknowledged as a real regression, but he keeps hijacking every > thread where strings are mentioned to harp on about it. He has shown no > inclination to at

Re: Vowels [was Re: "monty" < "python"]

2013-03-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-03-21, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 3/21/2013 1:31 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linking_and_intrusive_R > >> Is the Python language rhotic or non-rhotic? > > Python uses American rather that British English, which would make it > rhotic. Well, there are parts of Ne

Re: Vowels [was Re: "monty" < "python"]

2013-03-21 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Terry Reedy wrote: > On 3/21/2013 1:31 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linking_and_intrusive_R > > > Is the Python language rhotic or non-rhotic? > > Python uses American rather that British English, which would make it > rhotic. > > I never imagine

Re: Vowels [was Re: "monty" < "python"]

2013-03-21 Thread Terry Reedy
On 3/21/2013 1:31 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linking_and_intrusive_R Is the Python language rhotic or non-rhotic? Python uses American rather that British English, which would make it rhotic. I never imagined that there were people who would mix up 'tuner' and

Re: Vowels [was Re: "monty" < "python"]

2013-03-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Peter Pearson wrote: > On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 21:09:52 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 8:36 PM, David H Wild wrote: >>> In article , Larry Hudson >>> wrote: The word "apron" was originally "napron", and over the years the phrase "a

Re: Vowels [was Re: "monty" < "python"]

2013-03-21 Thread Peter Pearson
On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 21:09:52 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 8:36 PM, David H Wild wrote: >> In article , Larry Hudson >> wrote: >>> The word "apron" was originally "napron", and over the years the phrase >>> "a napron" mutated to "an apron". So that became the accepted w

Re: Vowels [was Re: "monty" < "python"]

2013-03-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-03-21, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > By the way, the "n" in "an" is not the only such "bridging" sound. In > Shakespearean times, it was usual to use "mine" in the same fashion: In many (most?) modern, non-rhotic, dialects of English one inserts an "intrusive" bridging "R" sound after a word

Re: Vowels [was Re: "monty" < "python"]

2013-03-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:26 AM, wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 21. März 2013 10:36:20 UTC+1 schrieb David H Wild: >> In article , Larry Hudson >> >> wrote: >> >> > The word "apron" was originally "napron", and over the years the phrase >> >> > "a napron" mutated to "an apron". So that became the acc

Re: Vowels [was Re: "monty" < "python"]

2013-03-21 Thread istjanichtzufassen
Am Donnerstag, 21. März 2013 10:36:20 UTC+1 schrieb David H Wild: > In article , Larry Hudson > > wrote: > > > The word "apron" was originally "napron", and over the years the phrase > > > "a napron" mutated to "an apron". So that became the accepted word. > > > > Similarly, the snake was a

Re: "monty" < "python"

2013-03-21 Thread Dave Angel
On 03/21/2013 08:55 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 11:45 PM, Roy Smith wrote: In article , Terry Reedy wrote: On 3/20/2013 10:03 AM, franzferdinand wrote: Ok, thanks everybody! Threads are like the Sorcerer's Apprentice. You can start 'em, but you cannot stop 'em ;-)

Re: "monty" < "python"

2013-03-21 Thread Wayne Werner
On Thu, 21 Mar 2013, Roy Smith wrote: In article , Terry Reedy wrote: On 3/20/2013 10:03 AM, franzferdinand wrote: Ok, thanks everybody! Threads are like the Sorcerer's Apprentice. You can start 'em, but you cannot stop 'em ;-) Of course you can stop threads. Just call _exit(). No more

Re: "monty" < "python"

2013-03-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 11:45 PM, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > Terry Reedy wrote: > >> On 3/20/2013 10:03 AM, franzferdinand wrote: >> > Ok, thanks everybody! >> >> Threads are like the Sorcerer's Apprentice. You can start 'em, but you >> cannot stop 'em ;-) > > Of course you can stop threa

Re: "monty" < "python"

2013-03-21 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Terry Reedy wrote: > On 3/20/2013 10:03 AM, franzferdinand wrote: > > Ok, thanks everybody! > > Threads are like the Sorcerer's Apprentice. You can start 'em, but you > cannot stop 'em ;-) Of course you can stop threads. Just call _exit(). No more threads! -- http://mail.pytho

Re: Vowels [was Re: "monty" < "python"]

2013-03-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 8:36 PM, David H Wild wrote: > In article , Larry Hudson > wrote: >> The word "apron" was originally "napron", and over the years the phrase >> "a napron" mutated to "an apron". So that became the accepted word. > > Similarly, the snake was a nadder - congruent with the n

Re: Vowels [was Re: "monty" < "python"]

2013-03-21 Thread David H Wild
In article , Larry Hudson wrote: > The word "apron" was originally "napron", and over the years the phrase > "a napron" mutated to "an apron". So that became the accepted word. Similarly, the snake was a nadder - congruent with the natterjack toad. -- David Wild using RISC OS on broadband www.

Re: "monty" < "python"

2013-03-21 Thread Terry Reedy
On 3/20/2013 10:03 AM, franzferdinand wrote: Ok, thanks everybody! Threads are like the Sorcerer's Apprentice. You can start 'em, but you cannot stop 'em ;-) -- Terry Jan Reedy -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Vowels [was Re: "monty" < "python"]

2013-03-20 Thread Larry Hudson
On 03/20/2013 09:28 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:12:13 -0700, rusi wrote: "I did an horrible mistake" [...] is 'h' a vowel in french? This-language-lesson-was-brought-to-you-by-the-letters-thorn-wynn-and-ash- ly y'rs, As a point of totally irrelevant trivia... (And

Vowels [was Re: "monty" < "python"]

2013-03-20 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:12:13 -0700, rusi wrote: > "I did an horrible mistake" [...] is 'h' a vowel in french? No it is not, and writing "an horrible" is a trivial typo which can easily happen if you start thinking "an awful ..." (for example) and then change to "horrible". Been there, done that

Re: "monty" < "python"

2013-03-20 Thread rusi
On Mar 21, 12:40 am, jmfauth wrote: > > > Courageous people can try to do something with the unicode > collation algorithm (see unicode.org). Some time ago, for the fun, > I wrote something (not perfect) with a reduced keys table (see > unicode.org), only a keys subset for some scripts hold i

Re: "monty" < "python"

2013-03-20 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:40:57 -0700, jmfauth wrote: > it [Python3.3] is no more unicode compliant I don't often call people a liar. I prefer to think that they are merely confused, or honestly hold a mistaken belief. But in this case, I will make an exception. JMF, I believe you are deliberatel

Re: "monty" < "python"

2013-03-20 Thread Michael Torrie
On 03/20/2013 01:40 PM, jmfauth wrote: > I forgot Py33 is now optimized for ascii user, it is no more > unicode compliant and I stupidely tested/sorted lists of French > words... Just because you keep saying it does not make it true. How is Py33 not unicode compliant anymore? And maybe you ought

Re: "monty" < "python"

2013-03-20 Thread Tim Delaney
On 21 March 2013 06:40, jmfauth wrote: > > [snip usual rant from jmf] Franz, please pay no attention to jmf. He has become obsessed with a single small regression in Python 3.3 in performance with how strings perform in a very small domain that rarely shows up in practice (although as he h

Re: "monty" < "python"

2013-03-20 Thread jmfauth
Courageous people can try to do something with the unicode collation algorithm (see unicode.org). Some time ago, for the fun, I wrote something (not perfect) with a reduced keys table (see unicode.org), only a keys subset for some scripts hold in memory. It works with Py32 and Py33. In an at

Re: "monty" < "python"

2013-03-20 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-03-20, franzferdinand wrote: >>>> "Monty" < "Python" > True >>>> "Z" < "a" > True >>>> "Monty" < "Montague" > > False > What's the rule about that? I don't

Re: "monty" < "python"

2013-03-20 Thread Jan Oelze
Interesting. Thanks! On 20.03.2013, at 15:17, Ian Foote wrote: > On 20/03/13 13:38, Jan Oelze wrote: > >> "Strings are compared lexicographically using the numeric equivalents >> (the result of the built-in function ord()) of their characters. Unicode >> and 8-bit strings are fully interoperabl

Re: "monty" < "python"

2013-03-20 Thread Ian Foote
On 20/03/13 13:38, Jan Oelze wrote: "Strings are compared lexicographically using the numeric equivalents (the result of the built-in function ord()) of their characters. Unicode and 8-bit strings are fully interoperable in this behavior." This isn't true in python 3: Python 3.2.3 (default, O

Re: "monty" < "python"

2013-03-20 Thread franzferdinand
Ok, thanks everybody! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: "monty" < "python"

2013-03-20 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Jan Oelze wrote: > From the docs[0]: > > "Strings are compared lexicographically using the numeric equivalents (the > result of the built-in function ord()) of their characters. Unicode and 8-bit > strings are fully interoperable in this behavior." Note, however, that sorting or

Re: "monty" < "python"

2013-03-20 Thread R. Michael Weylandt
e.com/ Note that all the upper case values appear before the lower case values. (And there are some other 'characters' like newline before that but you won't see them) Cheers, Michael On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 1:33 PM, franzferdinand wrote: >>>> "Monty" &l

Re: "monty" < "python"

2013-03-20 Thread Jan Oelze
not-in On 20.03.2013, at 14:33, franzferdinand wrote: >>>> "Monty" < "Python" > True >>>> "Z" < "a" > True >>>> "Monty" < "Montague" > > False > What's the rule about that

"monty" < "python"

2013-03-20 Thread franzferdinand
>>> "Monty" < "Python" True >>> "Z" < "a" True >>> "Monty" < "Montague" False What's the rule about that? Is it the number of letters or what? thanks -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: OT: Monty Python in Syria

2012-08-16 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 3:01 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: > But it has nothing to do with Monty Python either, that I can see. > Nor is there a video to see the context of (OP said "For context, start the > video at 1:00.") Perhaps link is erroneous. > At 1:00 the captor asks

Re: OT: Monty Python in Syria

2012-08-16 Thread PythonAB
rmine what is or is not on topic here? >>> >>> The same right as anyone. >>> >>>> The subject is also >>>> clearly marked OT or did that escape your attention? >>> >>> But it has nothing to do with Monty Python either, that I can see. >&g

Re: OT: Monty Python in Syria

2012-08-15 Thread Andrew Cooper
> >>> >>> Please don't shout, please don't top post >> >> agreed. >> >>> and what gives you the right >>> to determine what is or is not on topic here? >> >> The same right as anyone. >> >>> The subject is a

Re: OT: Monty Python in Syria

2012-08-15 Thread Andrew Cooper
post > > agreed. > >> and what gives you the right >> to determine what is or is not on topic here? > > The same right as anyone. > >> The subject is also >> clearly marked OT or did that escape your attention? > > But it has nothing to do with M

Re: OT: Monty Python in Syria

2012-08-15 Thread Terry Reedy
e right as anyone. The subject is also clearly marked OT or did that escape your attention? But it has nothing to do with Monty Python either, that I can see. Nor is there a video to see the context of (OP said "For context, start the video at 1:00.") Perhaps link is erroneous. Marki

Re: OT: Monty Python in Syria

2012-08-15 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 15/08/2012 20:15, Tamer Higazi wrote: Exactly! NOT PROGRAMMING related has NOTHING TODO HERE! Please don't shout, please don't top post and what gives you the right to determine what is or is not on topic here? The subject is also clearly marked OT or did that escape your attention? --

Re: OT: Monty Python in Syria

2012-08-15 Thread Tamer Higazi
Exactly! NOT PROGRAMMING related has NOTHING TODO HERE! Tamer Am 15.08.2012 16:42, schrieb Dotan Cohen: > On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> And now for something completely different. >> >> Not programming related, but at 1:20 I was expecting a different question: >> http:

Re: OT: Monty Python in Syria

2012-08-15 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > And now for something completely different. > > Not programming related, but at 1:20 I was expecting a different question: > http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/08/2012813103922872697.html > > I figured if anybody could appreciate tha

OT: Monty Python in Syria

2012-08-15 Thread Dotan Cohen
And now for something completely different. Not programming related, but at 1:20 I was expecting a different question: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/08/2012813103922872697.html I figured if anybody could appreciate that, it would be the folks here. Enjoy! -- Dotan Cohen http://

Re: Snake references just as ok as Monty Python jokes/references inpython community? :)

2006-12-14 Thread Hendrik van Rooyen
"John Machin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah yes, exposure to Blackadder helps enormously ... after some hours > spent trying to understand things like metaclasses, it's helpful to > know what to do: put a pencil or chopstick up each nostril, wear your > underpants on your head, and sit there m

Re: Snake references just as ok as Monty Python jokes/references in python community? :)

2006-12-12 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : > I'm semi-seriously wondering if snake jokes are valid in the Python > community since technically, Python came from Monty Python, not > slithery animals. > > Problem is I don't know that anyone born after Elvis died gets any of > these Mo

Re: Snake references just as ok as Monty Python jokes/references inpython community? :)

2006-12-09 Thread Hendrik van Rooyen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Problem is I don't know that anyone born after Elvis died gets any of > these Monty Python jokes. But hey - Elvis is not dead! - that is just a conspiracy theory that was originated by the Cliff Richard's fan club... - Hendrik -- http://m

Re: Snake references just as ok as Monty Python jokes/references in python community? :)

2006-12-08 Thread Aahz
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Problem is I don't know that anyone born after Elvis died gets any of >these Monty Python jokes. Who is Elvis? -- Aahz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.

Re: Snake references just as ok as Monty Python jokes/references in python community? :)

2006-12-08 Thread John Machin
Tim Chase wrote: > > I'm semi-seriously wondering if snake jokes are valid in the Python > > community since technically, Python came from Monty Python, not > > slithery animals. > > > > Problem is I don't know that anyone born after Elvis died gets an

Re: Snake references just as ok as Monty Python jokes/references in python community? :)

2006-12-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm semi-seriously wondering if snake jokes are valid in the Python > community since technically, Python came from Monty Python, not > slithery animals. > > Problem is I don't know that anyone born after Elvis died gets any of > these M

Re: Snake references just as ok as Monty Python jokes/references in python community? :)

2006-12-08 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2006-12-08, Roy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm semi-seriously wondering if snake jokes are valid in the >> Python community since technically, Pyt

Re: Snake references just as ok as Monty Python jokes/references in python community? :)

2006-12-08 Thread Tim Chase
> I'm semi-seriously wondering if snake jokes are valid in the Python > community since technically, Python came from Monty Python, not > slithery animals. > > Problem is I don't know that anyone born after Elvis died gets any of > these Monty Python jokes.

Re: Snake references just as ok as Monty Python jokes/references in python community? :)

2006-12-08 Thread Roy Smith
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm semi-seriously wondering if snake jokes are valid in the Python > community since technically, Python came from Monty Python, not > slithery animals. > > Problem is

Snake references just as ok as Monty Python jokes/references in python community? :)

2006-12-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm semi-seriously wondering if snake jokes are valid in the Python community since technically, Python came from Monty Python, not slithery animals. Problem is I don't know that anyone born after Elvis died gets any of these Monty Python jokes. Is it kosher to make snake jokes/refer