On Feb 10, 9:19 am, "Gabriel Genellina"
wrote:
> You really should push them to be included in python.org, even in their
> unfinished form. (At least a link in the wiki pages). Their visibility is
> almost null now.
It looks like I made an unfortunate choice with the
title ("Things to Know ab
En Wed, 11 Feb 2009 00:31:06 -0200, Benjamin Kaplan
escribió:
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Daniel Fetchinson <
fetchin...@googlemail.com> wrote:
Okay, I think we converged to a common denominator. I agree with you
that the documentation needs additions about super and I also agree
with yo
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Daniel Fetchinson <
fetchin...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>> Consider whether you really need to use super().
> >>> http://fuhm.net/super-harmful/
>
> Because throwing around that link carries about the same amount of
> information as "perl is
>>> Consider whether you really need to use super().
>>> http://fuhm.net/super-harmful/
Because throwing around that link carries about the same amount of
information as "perl is better than python", "my IDE is better than
yours", "vim rulez!", "emacs is cooler than vim"
En Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:01:53 -0200, Daniel Fetchinson
escribió:
On 2/9/09, Gabriel Genellina wrote:
En Mon, 09 Feb 2009 23:34:05 -0200, Daniel Fetchinson
escribió:
Consider whether you really need to use super().
http://fuhm.net/super-harmful/
Because throwing around that link carries ab
On 10 Feb, 20:45, Jean-Paul Calderone wrote:
>
> It replaces one kind of repetition with another. I think each kind is
> about as unpleasant. Has anyone gathered any data on the frequency of
> changes of base classes as compared to the frequency of classes being
> renamed? I don't think either
> Consider whether you really need to use super().
>
> http://fuhm.net/super-harmful/
Did you actually read that article, understood it, went through the
tons of responses from python-dev team members, including Guido
>
> "Tons" of responses?
This was mentioned already, bu
On 2/9/09, Gabriel Genellina wrote:
> En Mon, 09 Feb 2009 23:34:05 -0200, Daniel Fetchinson
> escribió:
>
>> Hello. I've been scouring the web looking for something to clear up a
>> little confusion about the use of "super()" but haven't found
>> anything
>> that really helps. Her
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:40:56 + (UTC), Benjamin Peterson
wrote:
Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch gmx.net> writes:
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 02:02:43 +, Benjamin Peterson wrote:
> Jean-Paul Calderone divmod.com> writes:
>> Consider whether you really need to use super().
>>
>> http://fuhm.net/sup
Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch gmx.net> writes:
>
> On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 02:02:43 +, Benjamin Peterson wrote:
>
> > Jean-Paul Calderone divmod.com> writes:
> >> Consider whether you really need to use super().
> >>
> >> http://fuhm.net/super-harmful/
> >
> > This article chiefly deals with supe
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 02:11:10 -0800, Michele Simionato wrote:
> Unfortunately there is no good solution. If you have a single
> inheritance hierarchy and you do not use super, you make it impossible
> for users of your hierarchy to subclass it by using multiple
> inheritance in a cooperative way (t
On Feb 10, 10:42 am, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 02:02:43 +, Benjamin Peterson wrote:
> > Jean-Paul Calderone divmod.com> writes:
> >> Consider whether you really need to use super().
>
> >>http://fuhm.net/super-harmful/
>
> > This article chiefly deals with super()'
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 02:02:43 +, Benjamin Peterson wrote:
> Jean-Paul Calderone divmod.com> writes:
>> Consider whether you really need to use super().
>>
>> http://fuhm.net/super-harmful/
>
> This article chiefly deals with super()'s harm in multiple inteheritance
> situations. For the simp
En Tue, 10 Feb 2009 03:26:20 -0200, Michele Simionato
escribió:
On Feb 10, 4:29 am, "Gabriel Genellina"
> Honestly, I don't understand how this thing got so much out of
> control. If anyone starts an intelligent question or remark about
> super, this essay is thrown in no matter what. Anyone
On Feb 10, 4:29 am, "Gabriel Genellina"
> AFAIK, all facts appearing in said article are still true (except for 3.x
> which uses a shorter form). If super usage had been clearly documented in
> the first place, this had not happened.
> Perhaps you could point us to some resource explaining how
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 17:34:05 -0800, Daniel Fetchinson wrote:
...
Consider whether you really need to use super().
http://fuhm.net/super-harmful/
>>>
>>>Did you actually read that article, understood it, went through the
>>>tons of responses from python-dev team members, including Gu
En Mon, 09 Feb 2009 23:34:05 -0200, Daniel Fetchinson
escribió:
Hello. I've been scouring the web looking for something to clear up a
little confusion about the use of "super()" but haven't found
anything
that really helps. Here's my simple example:
[snip]
"super(Child,self).__init__(fil
Jean-Paul Calderone divmod.com> writes:
> Consider whether you really need to use super().
>
> http://fuhm.net/super-harmful/
This article chiefly deals with super()'s harm in multiple inteheritance
situations. For the simple case, though, like that presented by the OP, I
believe super() is perf
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:34:05 -0800, Daniel Fetchinson
wrote:
Hello. I've been scouring the web looking for something to clear up a
little confusion about the use of "super()" but haven't found anything
that really helps. Here's my simple example:
[snip]
"super(Child,self).__init__(filePath)
Ty
Hello. I've been scouring the web looking for something to clear up a
little confusion about the use of "super()" but haven't found anything
that really helps. Here's my simple example:
[snip]
"super(Child,self).__init__(filePath)
TypeError: super() argument 1 mus
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:19:41 -0800, Daniel Fetchinson
wrote:
Hello. I've been scouring the web looking for something to clear up a
little confusion about the use of "super()" but haven't found anything
that really helps. Here's my simple example:
[snip]
"super(Child,self).__init__(filePath)
Ty
>>Hello. I've been scouring the web looking for something to clear up a
>>little confusion about the use of "super()" but haven't found anything
>>that really helps. Here's my simple example:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>"super(Child,self).__init__(filePath)
>>TypeError: super() argument 1 must be type, not c
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 16:18:34 -0800 (PST), Lionel wrote:
On Feb 9, 4:04 pm, Jean-Paul Calderone wrote:
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:20:05 -0800 (PST), Lionel wrote:
>Hello. I've been scouring the web looking for something to clear up a
>little confusion about the use of "super()" but haven't found any
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Lionel wrote:
> On Feb 9, 4:04 pm, Jean-Paul Calderone wrote:
>> On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:20:05 -0800 (PST), Lionel
>> wrote:
>> >Hello. I've been scouring the web looking for something to clear up a
>> >little confusion about the use of "super()" but haven't found
On Feb 9, 4:04 pm, Jean-Paul Calderone wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:20:05 -0800 (PST), Lionel
> wrote:
> >Hello. I've been scouring the web looking for something to clear up a
> >little confusion about the use of "super()" but haven't found anything
> >that really helps. Here's my simple examp
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:20:05 -0800 (PST), Lionel wrote:
Hello. I've been scouring the web looking for something to clear up a
little confusion about the use of "super()" but haven't found anything
that really helps. Here's my simple example:
[snip]
"super(Child,self).__init__(filePath)
TypeErro
Lionel wrote:
Hello. I've been scouring the web looking for something to clear up a
little confusion about the use of "super()" but haven't found anything
that really helps. Here's my simple example:
class Parent:
def __init__(self, filePath):...
class Child(Parent):
def __init__(sel
On 2009-02-09 17:20, Lionel wrote:
Hello. I've been scouring the web looking for something to clear up a
little confusion about the use of "super()" but haven't found anything
that really helps. Here's my simple example:
class Parent:
def __init__(self, filePath):
.
.
Hello. I've been scouring the web looking for something to clear up a
little confusion about the use of "super()" but haven't found anything
that really helps. Here's my simple example:
class Parent:
def __init__(self, filePath):
.
.
Do some processing with "filePath"
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