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and uses_fragment are not used. With only three options instead of six, making
a strategy object is not quite as attractive. But still worth considering.
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and Gopher.
gemini://woodpeckersnest.space/~schapps/journal/2024-05-28-censoring-gemini-and-gopher.gmi
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"Henry S. Thompson" wrote:
> Schimon Jehudah via Python-list writes:
>
> > Yesterday, I have added support for a new syndication f
Schimon Jehudah via Python-list writes:
> Yesterday, I have added support for a new syndication format, Gemini
> feed.
I note that 'gemini' is not (yet?) a registered URI scheme:
https://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/uri-schemes.xhtml
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Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> On 2025-04-18 13:08:36 -0400, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
...
>> When the system launches its application the PYTHONPATH will start with
>> system site directories; local user site directories will be on the
>> PYTHONPATH but since they come l
~schapps/journal/2025-04-20-slixfeed-gemini-and-twtxt.gmi', query='',
fragment='')
>>>
>>>
https://git.xmpp-it.net/sch/Slixfeed/src/branch/master/slixfeed/parser/gmi.py
Is this a problem with the module urljoin?
To whom should reports about such concern be conveyed?
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On 2025-04-18 13:08:36 -0400, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
On 4/18/2025 11:38 AM, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote:
On 2025-04-18 13:24:28 +1200, Greg Ewing via Python-list wrote:
On 18/04/25 9:41 am, Mats Wichmann
On 2025-04-18 13:08:36 -0400, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
> On 4/18/2025 11:38 AM, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote:
> > On 2025-04-18 13:24:28 +1200, Greg Ewing via Python-list wrote:
> > > On 18/04/25 9:41 am, Mats Wichmann wrote:
> > > > There'
On 2025-04-18 17:11:33 +0100, Oscar Benjamin via Python-list wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 at 16:50, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
> wrote:
> >
> > On 2025-04-18 13:24:28 +1200, Greg Ewing via Python-list wrote:
> > > On 18/04/25 9:41 am, Mats Wichmann wrote:
> &
On 4/18/2025 11:38 AM, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote:
On 2025-04-18 13:24:28 +1200, Greg Ewing via Python-list wrote:
On 18/04/25 9:41 am, Mats Wichmann wrote:
There's just not a really great answer to this.
Seems to me a system-installed application shouldn't be look
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>
> On 2025-04-18 13:24:28 +1200, Greg Ewing via Python-list wrote:
> > On 18/04/25 9:41 am, Mats Wichmann wrote:
> > > There's just not a really great answer to this.
> >
> > Seems to me a
On 2025-04-18 13:24:28 +1200, Greg Ewing via Python-list wrote:
> On 18/04/25 9:41 am, Mats Wichmann wrote:
> > There's just not a really great answer to this.
>
> Seems to me a system-installed application shouldn't be looking in the
> user's .local packages in
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On 4/17/25 15:15, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
On 2025-04-17, Left Right via Python-list wrote:
Also... when installing stuff with pip --user, it is always a package
that is not installed for the system (usually not even available for
the system). How can that "break system pac
On 2025-04-17, Left Right via Python-list wrote:
>> Also... when installing stuff with pip --user, it is always a package
>> that is not installed for the system (usually not even available for
>> the system). How can that "break system packages"?
>
> pip insta
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Op 15/04/2025 om 20:31 schreef Mats Wichmann via Python-list:
To be clear: you do not have to activate a virtualenv to use *Python*
from it. If you just call the python by the path it's in, it figures
everything out (and sets
Op 15/04/2025 om 20:31 schreef Mats Wichmann via Python-list:
To be clear: you do not have to activate a virtualenv to use *Python*
from it. If you just call the python by the path it's in, it figures
everything out (and sets some variables you can query vi sysconfig if
you have reas
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 14:12:19 -0400, Thomas Passin wrote:
On Linux, at least, it's standard for pip to install into the user's
site-packages location if it's not invoked with admin privileges - even
without --user. Pip will
27;s is 24.3.1 but neither of them show
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On 2025-04-16, Mats Wichmann via Python-list wrote:
> On 4/15/25 16:07, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
>> On 2025-04-15, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
>>
>>> On Linux, at least, it's standard for pip to install into the user's
>>> site
On 4/15/25 16:07, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
On 2025-04-15, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
On Linux, at least, it's standard for pip to install into the user's
site-packages location if it's not invoked with admin privileges - even
without --user. Pip will
On 2025-04-15, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
> On Linux, at least, it's standard for pip to install into the user's
> site-packages location if it's not invoked with admin privileges - even
> without --user. Pip will emit a message saying so. Well, that used to
/lib/python3.10/site-packages' left over
from earlier versions of Ubuntu.
However on Fedora 42 with 3.13.2
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Various responses have been provided but the OP has not yet replied on-
list (as verified by Archive). Is this an error with the list-processor
or have some posts been sent to one person only (using Reply instead of
ReplyList)?
There are always
On 4/15/2025 12:43 PM, Friedrich Romstedt via Python-list wrote:
Am Mo., 14. Apr. 2025 um 01:14 Uhr schrieb Jonathan Gossage via Python-list
:
I am using *Python 3.13* in a virtual environment under *Ubuntu Linux
24.04*
.
[...]
Instead, it was
installed into the site-packages directory in
-discussions -
but will hearing only half of some of the conversation help them?
On 14/04/25 11:33, dn via Python-list wrote:
On 14/04/25 11:10, Jonathan Gossage via Python-list wrote:
I am using *Python 3.13* in a virtual environment under *Ubuntu Linux
24.04*
.
The version of Python was compiled
On 4/15/25 10:43, Friedrich Romstedt via Python-list wrote:
Many people put emphasis on that you need to *activate* a virtualenv before
using it, but no-one so far stressed the fact that you got Sphinx installed
to ~/jonathan/.local/lib/python3.13/site-packages *without using *--user.
To be
Am Mo., 14. Apr. 2025 um 01:14 Uhr schrieb Jonathan Gossage via Python-list
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> I am using *Python 3.13* in a virtual environment under *Ubuntu Linux
> 24.04*
> .
> [...]
> Instead, it was
> installed into the site-packages directory in
> */home/jonathan/.locals/lib/pyt
te.ps1 is in the
Scripts subdirectory and you do run it directly. On Linux the python in
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(I'm relatively new at this. Please let me know if I've gotten any of
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On 4/14/2025 6:20 PM, Keith Thompson via Python-list wrote:
Thomas Passin writes:
[...]
To activate a venv, you have to source its activate script, which is
in the venv. First you have to mark it as executable. Then you source
it -
source ~/venv/gf4/bin/activate
[...]
No, you don't ha
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Thomas Passin writes:
[...]
To activate a venv, you have to source its activate script, which is
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it -
source ~/venv/gf4/bin/activate
[...]
No, you don't ha
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> I am using *Python 3.13* in a virtual environment under *Ubuntu
Linux 24.04*
> .
> The version of Python was compiled from source code and installed
with make
> altinstall. I at
the virtual environment*.
How did you create the venv? Was it activated? I would use 'python -m pip
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I am using *Python 3.13* in a virtual environment under *Ubuntu Linux 24.04*
.
The version of Python was compiled from source code and installed with make
altinstall. I attempted to use *pip* to install the *Sphinx* package into
the
install* command. Is this expected behavior? I
wanted Sphinx to be installed in the virtual environment so that it would
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ons that Slixmpp provides.
https://bpa.st/PDNA.
Please advise.
Regards,
Schimon
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Schimon Jehudah via Python-list wrote:
> Good day!
>
> My name is Schimon, and I create software in a form of XMPP contacts
> (i.e. bots) with chat and visual interfa
creating XMPP bots, based on the
module Slixmpp, and perhaps also for IRC and MQTT.
I do not know how to design a framework yet.
I would appreciate guidance.
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> I am happy to announce that magic-wormhole 0.18.0 has been released.
> A visible change is the default display of QR Codes, following the
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Yes,
I have 24.3.1 version of pip in my win 11 device, there is a new version of
pip available, 25.0.1
Shall I upgrade that?
Kind regards,
Praveen
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025, 03:04 Thomas Passin via Python-list, <
python-list@python.org> wrote:
> On 3/9/2025 3:16 PM, Gilmeh Serda via Py
Is that an approved location for executables?
May I know? What do you mean by approved location?
Kind regards,
Praveen
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025, 01:25 Gilmeh Serda via Python-list, <
python-list@python.org> wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 15:59:51 +0530, Praveen Kumar wrote:
>
> >
aveen Kumar,
wrote:
> Yes,
>
> I have 24.3.1 version of pip in my win 11 device, there is a new version
> of pip available, 25.0.1
>
> Shall I upgrade that?
>
> Kind regards,
> Praveen
>
> On Mon, 10 Mar 2025, 03:04 Thomas Passin via Python-list, <
> python-list
On 3/10/25 10:08, Praveen Kumar via Python-list wrote:
Hi Matt,
I pointed out onething that related to the errors, what I pointed out is I
just gone through the system 32 path in c drive and I found the python
executive and other python files indicating 0 kb, and I deleted these exe,
since
On 3/9/2025 3:16 PM, Gilmeh Serda via Python-list wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 15:59:51 +0530, Praveen Kumar wrote:
"C:\Users\Bharath\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python313\python.exe"
Is that an approved location for executables?
Yes, that's where a python.org install normal
ython.exe and
python do evoke the cited error.
Kind regards,
Praveen
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> On 3/8/2025 10:47 PM, Praveen Kumar wrote:
> > Hi Thomas and team,
> >
> > It's worked In non-admin pr
still persisted.
Kind regards,
Sincerely,
Praveen Kumar
Mob: +91 9515531643
On Sun, 9 Mar 2025, 03:52 Thomas Passin via Python-list, mailto:python-list@python.org>> wrote:
On 3/8/2025 5:29 AM, Praveen Kumar via Python-list wrote:
> Hi Python community and membe
Passin via Python-list, <
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> On 3/8/2025 5:29 AM, Praveen Kumar via Python-list wrote:
> > Hi Python community and members,
> >
> > I hope this email finds you well, I want you to be assisted in resolving
> > this following issue. kindl
ly by
accident? I don't know.
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 at 16:59, Praveen Kumar via Python-list <
python-list@python.org> wrote:
> Hi Python community and members,
>
> I hope this email finds you well, I want you to be assisted in resolving
> this following issue. kindly look at t
,
> Sincerely,
> Praveen Kumar
> Mob: +91 9515531643
>
> On Sun, 9 Mar 2025, 03:52 Thomas Passin via Python-list, <
> python-list@python.org> wrote:
>
>> On 3/8/2025 5:29 AM, Praveen Kumar via Python-list wrote:
>> > Hi Python community and members,
>>
On 3/8/2025 5:29 AM, Praveen Kumar via Python-list wrote:
Hi Python community and members,
I hope this email finds you well, I want you to be assisted in resolving
this following issue. kindly look at the below concern,
"""I’m running into an error where I get a 'This app
olve this?
Extending my request you to kindly help me out of this error and give me
the root cause of this problem.
*Kind regards, *
*Sincerely,*
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>>> p3
>>> pc = Person.select(Person.q.lname=="Doe").count()
>>> pc
1
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OptimizeWarning: Covariance of the parameters could not be estimated
Please how can I resolve this error.
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I think Python compiles with fPIC by default. Something else had
happened to the OPs checkout that caused these errors. OP needs to
better describe what they were doing to properly understand the
problem.
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>
> First
d so on. Omg, I didn't know there
were so many reasons... Funny is that the only real reason I really
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code, which your linker (apparently) requires for a specific type of relocation.
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.13.a
ld: error: relocation R_X86_64_32 cannot be used against local symbol;
recompile with -fPIC
>>> defined in /usr/local/lib/libpython3.13.a(thread.o)
>>> referenced by thread_pthread.h:441 (Python/thread_pthread.h:441)
>>> thread.o:(PyThread_allocate_lock) in archive
>>> /usr/local/lib/libpython3.13.a
ld: error: too many errors emitted, stopping now (use --error-limit=0 to see
all errors)
clang++: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see
invocation)
ninja: build stopped: subcommand failed.
===> Compilation failed unexpectedly.
Try to set MAKE_JOBS_UNSAFE=yes and rebuild before reporting the failure to
the maintainer.
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> all online now.
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I'm looking for a book that would teach me the lastest and greatest parts of
Python, does anyone have any recommendations?
I've looked at python.org and pythonbooks.org but I couldn't decide which one
to get.
I us
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On 2/16/25 18:40, Salvador Mirzo via Python-list wrote:
Jan Erik Moström writes:
On 16 Feb 2025, at 20:47, rbowman via Python-list wrote:
David Beasley's 'Python Distilled'. The author doesn't enumerate Python 3
features specifically but as the title suggests hits th
Jan Erik Moström writes:
> On 16 Feb 2025, at 20:47, rbowman via Python-list wrote:
>
>> David Beasley's 'Python Distilled'. The author doesn't enumerate Python 3
>> features specifically but as the title suggests hits the important
>> concepts.
>
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er used. I also appreciated f
strings when they were introduced, the walrus operator, and other
enhancements.
Another part of my renewed interest was the advent of many
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On 16 Feb 2025, at 23:06, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
> I don't have a book for them but I think you should look into the (relatively
> new) type annotation system, as well as asynchronized programming. The latter
> is especially of interest because the older techni
On 2/16/2025 4:00 PM, Jan Erik Moström via Python-list wrote:
On 16 Feb 2025, at 20:59, dn via Python-list wrote:
When stop to think about it, this is quite a request:
don't give me what I do know,
do give me what I don't know!
😜
That said, you are correct: the bulk of new pu
On 16 Feb 2025, at 20:59, dn via Python-list wrote:
> When stop to think about it, this is quite a request:
> don't give me what I do know,
> do give me what I don't know!
😜
> That said, you are correct: the bulk of new publications seem to (still) aim
> at the Begi
On 16 Feb 2025, at 20:47, rbowman via Python-list wrote:
> David Beasley's 'Python Distilled'. The author doesn't enumerate Python 3
> features specifically but as the title suggests hits the important
> concepts.
Thanks, I'll take a look
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I'm looking for a book that would teach me the lastest and greatest parts of
Python, does anyone have any recommendations?
I've looked at python.org and pythonbooks.org but I couldn't decide which one
to get.
I used to
On 2/16/25 05:50, Jan Erik Moström via Python-list wrote:
I'm looking for a book that would teach me the lastest and greatest parts of
Python, does anyone have any recommendations?
I've looked at python.org and pythonbooks.org but I couldn't decide which one
to get.
I used to
language specific changes that has happened the last 10 years or
so.
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to the Makefile.
I don't think this is a new issue in 3.14.0a5; that's just where
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On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 at 05:56, Grant Edwards via Python-list
wrote:
> The -dev packages also contain the man pages for the libraries. It
> surprised me at first that the man pages weren't installed by the
> "normal" lib packages. But, if you're not writing/building ap
On 2025-02-10, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 at 04:04, Grant Edwards via Python-list
> wrote:
>> On 2025-02-09, Left Right via Python-list wrote:
>>
>>> You need the sources of the OpenSSL library, not the compiled library.
>>>
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wrote:
>
> On 2025-02-09, Left Right via Python-list wrote:
>
> > You need the sources of the OpenSSL library, not the compiled library.
> > On Ubuntu, the packages with sources are typically named xxx-dev where
&
On 2025-02-09, Left Right via Python-list wrote:
> You need the sources of the OpenSSL library, not the compiled library.
> On Ubuntu, the packages with sources are typically named xxx-dev where
> xxx is the package that provides the library. I don't have a Ubuntu
> currently
ig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name VersionArchitecture Description
+++--==--
ii libssl-dev:amd64 3.3.1-2ubuntu2 amd64Secure Sockets Layer toolkit -
development files
```
then I don't understand why you'd get the "Python requires a OpenSSL
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`dpkg -l libssl-dev` will tell you whether you have it.
If you don't, `sudo apt-get install libssl-dev` will install it.
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nd atrocious error handling.
On Sun, Feb 9, 2025 at 5:51 PM Vincent Vande Vyvre via Python-list
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> >
> > In case this helps you find the correct package to install:
> >
> > $ python3 -c "if True:
> > > import ssl
> > > print('
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u3.4 amd64
[installed]
libssl3t64/noble-updates,noble-security,now 3.0.13-0ubuntu3.4 amd64
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libxmlsec1t64-openssl/noble,now 1.2.39-5build2 amd64 [installed,automatic]
openssl/noble-updates,noble-security,now 3.0.13-0ubuntu3.4 amd64
[installed,automatic]
ssl-cert/noble,noble,now 1.1.2ubuntu1 all [installed,automatic]
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On Sun, Feb 9, 2025 at 9:35 AM Vincent Vande Vyvre via Python-list
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> Hi,
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> Trying to compile Python-3.12.9 on Ubuntu-24.04
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> The compilation is complete without errors
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What can I do for that ?
Vincent.
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Thomas Wouters writes:
> A small release day today! That is to say the releases are relatively
> small; the day itself was of average size, as most days are.
nice.
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