Being a user of that list i've also noticed that only recently. hope that
this list is good enough to take on all python questions. Are there any
other alternative lists? Thx
On Wed, 28 May 2025, 01:35 Alan Gauld via Python-list, <
python-list@python.org> wrote:
> I am the mo
ke 28.5.2025 klo 1.45 Thomas Passin (li...@tompassin.net) kirjoitti:
> On 5/27/2025 10:41 AM, Roland Mueller via Python-list wrote:
> > To get a list of files in a given directory one can use glob.glob and
>
> The OP had a different problem. He wanted to find a config file of
&g
Message received!
Hope you enjoyed your holiday...
On 28/05/25 12:00, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote:
On 28/05/2025 00:32, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote:
The archives are still there and the sign-up page seems to
work, but it doesn't recognise me. I tried signing up as
a new m
On 28/05/2025 00:32, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote:
> The archives are still there and the sign-up page seems to
> work, but it doesn't recognise me. I tried signing up as
> a new member with a different address and that seems to work(ie no
> errors) but I still don;t see any
I am the moderator of the python tutor mailing list.
Or at least I was. It seems the tutor list has been deleted.
I came back from vacation to find that I can't access it.
Nobody told me anything in advance. I've tried emailing
postmaster but got no response.
I wonder if anyone here ha
he parts for the glob mask together
instead of plain '/'.
>
>
> ti 27.5.2025 klo 17.05 Peter J. Holzer (hjp-pyt...@hjp.at) kirjoitti:
>
>> On 2025-05-24 17:18:11 -0600, Mats Wichmann wrote:
>> > On 5/23/25 16:05, Rob Cliffe via Python-list wrote:
>> &g
s and add the resulting list of
files.
>>> tmp_files = []
>>> for dir in ['/tmp', '/var/tmp']:
... tmp_files += [f for f in glob(dir + '/*') if isfile(f) ]
ti 27.5.2025 klo 17.05 Peter J. Holzer (hjp-pyt...@hjp.at) kirjoitti:
> On 2025-05-
Here’s the second 3.14 beta.
https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3140b2/
This is a beta preview of Python 3.14
Python 3.14 is still in development. This release, 3.14.0b2, is the second
of four planned beta releases.
Beta release previews are intended to give the wider community
On Sun, 25 May 2025 at 10:05, Rob Cliffe via Python-list
wrote:
> Yes, but if I understand correctly, they all start from a single
> directory (and work downwards if required).
> My suggestion involved searching a *list* (possibly multiple lists) of
> directories.
for dir in dirs:
On 25/05/2025 00:18, Mats Wichmann wrote:
On 5/23/25 16:05, Rob Cliffe via Python-list wrote:
On 23/05/2025 18:55, Mats Wichmann wrote:
On 5/22/25 21:04, Rob Cliffe via Python-list wrote:
It occurs to me that it might be useful if Python provided a
function to search for a file with a
r it.
Thanks for all of the suggestions.
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re on this idea.
So, I use an environment variable because my config is shared between Python
and Java auto test frameworks. I think keeping the config adjacent to the
.py files is also workable because a Python program can know where it is:
from pathlib import Path
script_path = Path(__file__).re
On 23/05/2025 18:55, Mats Wichmann wrote:
On 5/22/25 21:04, Rob Cliffe via Python-list wrote:
It occurs to me that it might be useful if Python provided a function
to search for a file with a given name in various directories (much
as the import.import_lib function searches for a module in
but
> this is unnecessarily complicated for many applications - have the
> program look first on the command line for the config directory,
> then for an environmental variable, then in those likely places.
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It occurs to me that it might be useful if Python provided a function to
search for a file with a given name in various directories (much as the
import.import_lib function searches for a module in the directories in
sys.path).
This function would perhaps be best placed in the os.path or os
On 22/05/2025 23:45, Mats Wichmann wrote:
On 5/22/25 13:59, Michael F. Stemper via Python-list wrote:
I recently wrote a program to do some record-keeping for me. I found
myself hard-coding a bunch of different values into it. This didn't
seem right, so I made my first u
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ion in ways that
are difficult to accomplish using metaclasses and other complicated
mechanisms Python language provides to that end. Eg. you can
conditionally inherit from different superclasses (so, you can use
this approach as a factory that creates different classes), or you can
conditional
under the name
'Flag3: 4, __init__'.
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On 5/19/2025 5:49 PM, Mats Wichmann via Python-list wrote:
On 5/19/25 09:51, Jonathan Gossage via Python-list wrote:
I have created a dynamic class using the type() function:
x = type('MyFlags', (), {'Flag1': 1, &
On 5/19/2025 5:49 PM, Mats Wichmann via Python-list wrote:
On 5/19/25 09:51, Jonathan Gossage via Python-list wrote:
I have created a dynamic class using the type() function:
x = type('MyFlags', (), {'Flag1': 1, 'Flag2': 2, 'Flag3: 4, '
'__init__&#
On 5/19/25 09:51, Jonathan Gossage via Python-list wrote:
I have created a dynamic class using the type() function:
x = type('MyFlags', (), {'Flag1': 1, 'Flag2': 2, 'Flag3: 4, ' '__init__' :
__init__})
The new class is there, and the cla
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Am 18.05.2025 22:16 schrieb Larry Martell via Python-list:
https://youtu.be/pqBqdNIPrbo?si=P2ukSXnDj3qy3HBJ
Awesome! Which release channels will be used? How can we pay?
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On 5/18/25 15:16, Larry Martell wrote:
https://youtu.be/pqBqdNIPrbo?si=P2ukSXnDj3qy3HBJ
Get ready Guido:
"I'd like to thank the Academy ..."
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Apologies for top-posting. It's my phone's fault.Since no-one appears to have
responded, I'll stir up some aggro and offer my opinion based on ~45 years
experience with Microsoft.Uninstall python/idle etc completely and
https://youtu.be/pqBqdNIPrbo?si=P2ukSXnDj3qy3HBJ
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Apologies for top-posting. It's my phone's fault.Since no-one appears to have
responded, I'll stir up some aggro and offer my opinion based on ~45 years
experience with Microsoft.Uninstall python/idle etc completely and download
from python.org instead. I would advise ignoring
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Betreff: dont use C:\Windows as working directory when installed using
microsoft store
Hi,
ive installed python with IDLE using the microsoft store, but one big issue
with it
tk config files
somewhere.
i would aprichiate any help on that.
thanks a lot in advance,
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extend, so we can always tune them or add new ones.
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On 5/8/2025 2:05 AM, Left Right via Python-list wrote:
Also, it appears that the change linked above is a lie:
https://docs.python.org/3/reference/lexical_analysis.html#grammar-token-python-grammar-longstringitem
According to the grammar, any character can follow backslash in a
valid Python
On 13/05/25 6:28 am, Left Right wrote:
Read the associate release note.
I take it you're referring to this:
In a future Python version, SyntaxError will
eventually be raised, instead of SyntaxWarning. (Contributed by Victor
Stinner in gh-98401.)
That doesn't contradict w
. It makes the discussion easier to follow, especially for
those of us who read the comp.lang.python Usenet newsgroup rather
than the mailing list.
I do not intend to reply further.
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Chris and Oleg (sp?), please control your tempers; your latter posts added
nothing useful to the conversation.
(Apologies for the late reply, I was out of town.)
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rd, you could at least try to find the
irony, that was the larger goal, than to immediately presume you are
being attacked, and start retaliating instead of looking into the
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> But the message doesn't say it's an error. It uses the word "warning",
> not "error". You're tilting at a straw horse here.
Read the associate release note.
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"lie"
means to you, but I suggest that it explains the harsh reaction to
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ly care. All it really proves is
> that you have zero respect for anyone else.
>
> ChrisA
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to spell my
name correctly.
You can leave that there, I don't really care. All it really proves is
that you have zero respect for anyone else.
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then. Prove it. You're all hot air and opinions and bluster.
> Show some actual code, and show that you can do right what you're
> complaining that Python has done wrong.
>
> I'm not holding my breath.
>
> ChrisA
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Oh, so this is where 4chan relocated after they were hacked?
What a refined discussion!
On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 5:28 PM Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> On Mon, 12 May 2025 at 01:24, Left Right via Python-list
> wrote:
> >
> > But, sure, go ahead, foam at the mouth, if it
>
On Mon, 12 May 2025 at 01:24, Left Right via Python-list
wrote:
>
> But, sure, go ahead, foam at the mouth, if it
> makes you feel better about it.
Projecting, much?
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hat you can do right what you're
complaining that Python has done wrong.
I'm not holding my breath.
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Hahah... what a pile of rubbish. The point is that the error is wrong.
It cannot be a syntax error and at the same time the program compiles.
You need to choose one. But, sure, go ahead, foam at the mouth, if it
makes you feel better about it.
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> Have you ever built a language parser?
I've lost count by now. Probably fewer than hundred times though.
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On 2025-05-11 12:36:31 +0200, Left Right via Python-list wrote:
> Then it just means that the grammar lies.
No, because the parser accepts the sequence. And it produces exactly
what the description says.
The program
#!/usr/bin/python3
print("start")
for i in range(3):
print(&
On 05/11/2025 6:36 AM EDT Left Right via Python-list
<[1]python-list@python.org> wrote:
Then it just means that the grammar lies. The two claims are mutually
exclusive, so either one is a lie or the other or both.
No, it more points out that not all erro
On Sun, 11 May 2025 at 20:38, Left Right via Python-list
wrote:
>
> My comment was more of an irony really. It's plenty obvious that the
> grammar is a lie. The reason is that it's tedious to put the actual
> intender rules into the grammar, and so whoever wrote the gr
words, the grammar author didn't put enough effort into
making grammar actually work, but seeing how many other things are
done in Python, this is not an exception. It would've been strange to
have it done properly when "properly" means doing copious amounts of
tedious work.
On Sun,
On 2025-05-08 08:05:54 +0200, Left Right via Python-list wrote:
> Also, it appears that the change linked above is a lie:
Such strong words ...
> https://docs.python.org/3/reference/lexical_analysis.html#grammar-token-python-grammar-longstringitem
>
> According to the grammar, a
Also, it appears that the change linked above is a lie:
https://docs.python.org/3/reference/lexical_analysis.html#grammar-token-python-grammar-longstringitem
According to the grammar, any character can follow backslash in a
valid Python program. The warning / error raised by this code should
not
r regular expression:
re.compile(r"\d+\.\d+")). In a future Python version, SyntaxError will
eventually be raised, instead of SyntaxWarning. (Contributed by Victor
Stinner in gh-98401.)
Found in:
https://docs.python.org/3/whatsnew/3.12.html#other-language-changes
It's not supposed to crash
Did something change in python buggering up my use of a "\ " sequence in a
triple quoted string?
I have yet to go through my archive on the program, but I tried to run it
today and it crashed quite spectacularly when it hit a """ """ line
being used
Only one day late, welcome to the first beta!
https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3140b1/
This is a beta preview of Python 3.14
Python 3.14 is still in development. This release, 3.14.0b1, is the first
of four planned beta releases.
Beta release previews are intended to give the
before I realised that the lists non_hierarchical, uses_query
and uses_fragment are not used. With only three options instead of six, making
a strategy object is not quite as attractive. But still worth considering.
regards, Anders
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Schimon Jehudah writes:
> Is there an "ignore" option for "urljoin" to allow schemes that are not
> included in the registry of the interpreter of the Python computer
> language?
Some approach to support future-proofing in general would seem to be
in order. Given so
Is there an "ignore" option for "urljoin" to allow schemes that are not
included in the registry of the interpreter of the Python computer
language?
I think that it is needed to have, even if it is not registered, as
there are ongoing attempts to try to censor Gemini
Schimon Jehudah via Python-list writes:
> Yesterday, I have added support for a new syndication format, Gemini
> feed.
I note that 'gemini' is not (yet?) a registered URI scheme:
https://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/uri-schemes.xhtml
ht
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> OK but beyond that and they tend to suffer knowledge rot.
My Python directory has
apple/ create/ fastapi/ lunar/ numerical/ pyside6/ weather/
comics/ django/ folium/ ml/ sqlite/ coursera/ impractical/
nn/ pyqt/ torch/
Not all like sqlite are venvs since no additional modules
Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> On 2025-04-18 13:08:36 -0400, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
...
>> When the system launches its application the PYTHONPATH will start with
>> system site directories; local user site directories will be on the
>> PYTHONPATH but since they come l
Good day.
Yesterday, I have added support for a new syndication format, Gemini
feed.
Yet, it appears that module urljoin fails at its task, even though
module urlsplit correctly handles Gemini.
Python 3.13.3
>>> from urllib.parse import urljoin
>>> urljoin('gopher://g
On 4/19/2025 4:56 AM, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote:
On 2025-04-18 13:08:36 -0400, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
On 4/18/2025 11:38 AM, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote:
On 2025-04-18 13:24:28 +1200, Greg Ewing via Python-list wrote:
On 18/04/25 9:41 am, Mats Wichmann
On 2025-04-18 13:08:36 -0400, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
> On 4/18/2025 11:38 AM, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote:
> > On 2025-04-18 13:24:28 +1200, Greg Ewing via Python-list wrote:
> > > On 18/04/25 9:41 am, Mats Wichmann wrote:
> > > > There'
On 2025-04-18 17:11:33 +0100, Oscar Benjamin via Python-list wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 at 16:50, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
> wrote:
> >
> > On 2025-04-18 13:24:28 +1200, Greg Ewing via Python-list wrote:
> > > On 18/04/25 9:41 am, Mats Wichmann wrote:
> &
On 4/18/2025 11:38 AM, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote:
On 2025-04-18 13:24:28 +1200, Greg Ewing via Python-list wrote:
On 18/04/25 9:41 am, Mats Wichmann wrote:
There's just not a really great answer to this.
Seems to me a system-installed application shouldn't be look
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 at 16:50, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
wrote:
>
> On 2025-04-18 13:24:28 +1200, Greg Ewing via Python-list wrote:
> > On 18/04/25 9:41 am, Mats Wichmann wrote:
> > > There's just not a really great answer to this.
> >
> > Seems to me a
On 2025-04-18 13:24:28 +1200, Greg Ewing via Python-list wrote:
> On 18/04/25 9:41 am, Mats Wichmann wrote:
> > There's just not a really great answer to this.
>
> Seems to me a system-installed application shouldn't be looking in the
> user's .local packages in
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On 4/17/25 15:15, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
On 2025-04-17, Left Right via Python-list wrote:
Also... when installing stuff with pip --user, it is always a package
that is not installed for the system (usually not even available for
the system). How can that "break system pac
On 2025-04-17, Left Right via Python-list wrote:
>> Also... when installing stuff with pip --user, it is always a package
>> that is not installed for the system (usually not even available for
>> the system). How can that "break system packages"?
>
> pip insta
The reason it doesn't happen very often is that package
maintainers kind of trust each other to be nice. There aren't really
any safeguards to prevent malicious actors from doing this, but you
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On 4/17/2025 4:58 AM, Roel Schroeven via Python-list wrote:
Op 15/04/2025 om 20:31 schreef Mats Wichmann via Python-list:
To be clear: you do not have to activate a virtualenv to use *Python*
from it. If you just call the python by the path it's in, it figures
everything out (and sets
Op 15/04/2025 om 20:31 schreef Mats Wichmann via Python-list:
To be clear: you do not have to activate a virtualenv to use *Python*
from it. If you just call the python by the path it's in, it figures
everything out (and sets some variables you can query vi sysconfig if
you have reas
On 4/15/2025 5:38 PM, rbowman via Python-list wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 14:12:19 -0400, Thomas Passin wrote:
On Linux, at least, it's standard for pip to install into the user's
site-packages location if it's not invoked with admin privileges - even
without --user. Pip will
o be
> true but nowadays Pip wants you to use the --break-system-packages flag
> if you want to insist on installing into the system's Python install,
> even if it's going to go into --user. I'm not sure if the restriction
> will be in place given that the OP built his own
On 2025-04-16, Mats Wichmann via Python-list wrote:
> On 4/15/25 16:07, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
>> On 2025-04-15, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
>>
>>> On Linux, at least, it's standard for pip to install into the user's
>>> site
On 4/15/25 16:07, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
On 2025-04-15, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
On Linux, at least, it's standard for pip to install into the user's
site-packages location if it's not invoked with admin privileges - even
without --user. Pip will
On 2025-04-15, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
> On Linux, at least, it's standard for pip to install into the user's
> site-packages location if it's not invoked with admin privileges - even
> without --user. Pip will emit a message saying so. Well, that used to
sing *--user.
This may depend on the OS. On Ubuntu 24.10 with python 3.12.7 I get
$ pip install black
error: externally-managed-environment
× This environment is externally managed
╰─> To install Python packages system-wide, try apt install
python3-xyz, where xyz is the package yo
On 4/15/2025 3:41 PM, dn via Python-list wrote:
Various responses have been provided but the OP has not yet replied on-
list (as verified by Archive). Is this an error with the list-processor
or have some posts been sent to one person only (using Reply instead of
ReplyList)?
There are always
On 4/15/2025 12:43 PM, Friedrich Romstedt via Python-list wrote:
Am Mo., 14. Apr. 2025 um 01:14 Uhr schrieb Jonathan Gossage via Python-list
:
I am using *Python 3.13* in a virtual environment under *Ubuntu Linux
24.04*
.
[...]
Instead, it was
installed into the site-packages directory in
-discussions -
but will hearing only half of some of the conversation help them?
On 14/04/25 11:33, dn via Python-list wrote:
On 14/04/25 11:10, Jonathan Gossage via Python-list wrote:
I am using *Python 3.13* in a virtual environment under *Ubuntu Linux
24.04*
.
The version of Python was compiled
On 4/15/25 10:43, Friedrich Romstedt via Python-list wrote:
Many people put emphasis on that you need to *activate* a virtualenv before
using it, but no-one so far stressed the fact that you got Sphinx installed
to ~/jonathan/.local/lib/python3.13/site-packages *without using *--user.
To be
Am Mo., 14. Apr. 2025 um 01:14 Uhr schrieb Jonathan Gossage via Python-list
:
> I am using *Python 3.13* in a virtual environment under *Ubuntu Linux
> 24.04*
> .
> [...]
> Instead, it was
> installed into the site-packages directory in
> */home/jonathan/.locals/lib/pyt
te.ps1 is in the
Scripts subdirectory and you do run it directly. On Linux the python in
bin is usually a symlink, although you can specify it to be copied with a
parameter to venv. Symlinks on Windows are problematic but the process is
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. So where is the venv that you
>> set up? I usually put them into ~/venv. For example, a venv named "gf4"
>> is at ~/venv/gf4.
>
> Are you sure about that?
Sure about what?
> activate has
>
>
> VIRTUAL_ENV="/home/rbowman/wor
On 4/14/2025 6:20 PM, Keith Thompson via Python-list wrote:
Thomas Passin writes:
[...]
To activate a venv, you have to source its activate script, which is
in the venv. First you have to mark it as executable. Then you source
it -
source ~/venv/gf4/bin/activate
[...]
No, you don't ha
On 4/14/2025 6:20 PM, Keith Thompson via Python-list wrote:
Thomas Passin writes:
[...]
To activate a venv, you have to source its activate script, which is
in the venv. First you have to mark it as executable. Then you source
it -
source ~/venv/gf4/bin/activate
[...]
No, you don't ha
> set up? I usually put them into ~/venv. For example, a venv named "gf4"
> is at ~/venv/gf4.
Are you sure about that? activate has
VIRTUAL_ENV="/home/rbowman/work/python/weather"
export VIRTUAL_ENV
_OLD_VIRTUAL_PATH="$PATH"
PATH="$VIRTUAL_ENV/bin:$PATH&q
id */
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;
is at ~/venv/gf4.
To activate a venv, you have to source its activate script, which is in
the venv. First you have to mark it as executable. Then you source it -
source ~/venv/gf4/bin/activate
Now when you run python (or more likely, python3), it will find the
venv's directories be
On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 19:10:47 -0400, Jonathan Gossage wrote:
> The version of Python was compiled from source code and installed with
> make altinstall. I attempted to use *pip* to install the *Sphinx*
> package into the virtual environment using the command *pip install
> sphinx* in
On 14/04/25 11:10, Jonathan Gossage via Python-list wrote:
I am using *Python 3.13* in a virtual environment under *Ubuntu Linux 24.04*
.
The version of Python was compiled from source code and installed with make
altinstall. I attempted to use *pip* to install the *Sphinx* package into
the
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