ction='append')
At least from my point of view, I don't any way to separate both lists
on this command call:
cool-script.py thing1 thing2 stuff1 stuff2
Do I miss something here?
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On 03.08.21 01:49, Dan Stromberg wrote:
Isn't -- usually used to signal the end o
Hi everyone,
maybe, I am missing something here but is it possible to specify a
delimiter for list arguments in argparse:
https://docs.python.org/3/library/argparse.html
Usually, '--' is used to separate two lists (cf. git).
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on. :)
I could not agree more with what you said above, so I hope this will put
the discussion in better perspective, especially when people here trying
to be overly absolute in their views (which was the quote about).
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ll"
"I could even squeeze those 14 lines to 10 using dict comprehensions"
"that's even more readable; +1 line, that's okay"
Life is full of compromises.
This guideline is more about discussing, shaping existing code and
extracting the essence (with yourself or with colleagues) to keep things
on a usable level.
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nze/xheap
https://github.com/srkunze/fork
https://github.com/srkunze/xcache
They are small but deserve the same professionalism I daresay.
How does PyCharm make the use of many files easier?
I'll let Sven answer that one. I don't know, but I've noticed the
correlation of habit to IDE.
D
ho started it so I take it with a smile. But
it's definitely a wart.
So, we have a new guideline since then: "empty __init__.py" if possible
of course; you sometimes need to collect/do magic imports but that's a
separate matter.
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On 05.04.2016 19:59, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 3:38 AM, Sven R. Kunze wrote:
Your package is currently under 500 lines. As it stands now, you could
easily flatten it to a single module:
bidict.py
I don't recommend this.
The line is blurry but 500 is definitely too
ine to us and as
PyCharm tried not to be overly clever when it comes to detecting names,
we like the direct way.
In case of our PyPI module, usability is really important for newbies
and people not using sophisticated IDEs. So, making it really easy for
them is a must. :)
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g each other but have some internals that should not be used
outside of them.
The _ signifies that actually clearly but it looks weird within the
package itself.
We haven't found a solution so far. Maybe others do.
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On 31.03.2016 18:30, Travis Griggs wrote:
British: http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/python
American: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/python?s=t
That does it. If I ever make some sort of open source module for pythun/pythawn
I’ll be sure to call it either tuhmayto/tomawto
valent for sequences such as lists and tuples is a slice. If the
slice is out of range, Python returns a empty sequence:
I see what you are trying to achieve here. What do you think about this?
[1, 2, 3].get(999, '?')
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On 30.03.2016 12:21, BartC wrote:
On 30/03/2016 11:07, Sven R. Kunze wrote:
On 30.03.2016 01:29, Eric S. Johansson wrote:
On 3/29/2016 6:05 AM, Sven R. Kunze wrote:
Python = English
As someone who writes English text and code using speech recognition,
I can assure you that Python is not
don't know how other English-speaking groups say the word, but in
England the first syllable is stressed and the second is the
conventional short "uh" sound).
TJG
I recognize this too. I also started with the England variant but now I
am not so sure anymore. :D
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On 30.03.2016 01:29, Eric S. Johansson wrote:
On 3/29/2016 6:05 AM, Sven R. Kunze wrote:
Python = English
As someone who writes English text and code using speech recognition,
I can assure you that Python is not English. :-)
:D Interesting. Never thought of how Python sounds when spoken
On 30.03.2016 01:43, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 09:26 pm, Sven R. Kunze wrote:
On 27.03.2016 05:01, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Am I the only one who has noticed that threading of posts here is
severely broken? It's always been the case that there have been a few
a, sure. But don't get stuck there. Learn something new from time to
time; even a new language.
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On 29.03.2016 12:18, Sven R. Kunze wrote:
On 29.03.2016 11:39, Peter Otten wrote:
My question to those who know a bit of C#: what is the state-of-the-art
equivalent to
"\n".join(foo.description() for foo in mylist
if foo.description() != "")
U
On 26.03.2016 18:06, Peter Otten wrote:
beliavsky--- via Python-list wrote:
I can use x[::n] to select every nth element of a list. Is there a
one-liner to get a list that excludes every nth element?
del x[::n]
;)
Actually quite nice.
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't we both already have a conversation about this? I
thought it is my thunderbird messing things up.
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On 28.03.2016 17:34, ast wrote:
"Matt Wheeler" a écrit dans le message de
news:mailman.92.1458825746.2244.python-l...@python.org...
On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:10 Sven R. Kunze, wrote:
On 24.03.2016 11:57, Matt Wheeler wrote:
>>>> import ast
>>>> s = "
On 29.03.2016 11:39, Peter Otten wrote:
My question to those who know a bit of C#: what is the state-of-the-art
equivalent to
"\n".join(foo.description() for foo in mylist
if foo.description() != "")
Using LINQ, I suppose:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_Inte
On 29.03.2016 06:13, Michael Torrie wrote:
On 03/28/2016 06:44 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
http://lukeplant.me.uk/blog/posts/why-learning-haskell-python-makes-you-a-worse-programmer/
I have the same problem as the writer. Working in Python makes me
really dislike working in any other language
Not heard of any but I can recommend django-restframework. We've got
good experience with that.
On 28.03.2016 23:06, David Shi via Python-list wrote:
Has anyone done a recent reviews of creating REST services, in Python?
Regards.
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On 24.03.2016 14:22, Matt Wheeler wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:10 Sven R. Kunze, wrote:
On 24.03.2016 11:57, Matt Wheeler wrote:
import ast
s = "(1, 2, 3, 4)"
t = ast.literal_eval(s)
t
(1, 2, 3, 4)
I suppose that's the better solution in terms of safety.
It has the added
On 24.03.2016 11:57, Matt Wheeler wrote:
import ast
s = "(1, 2, 3, 4)"
t = ast.literal_eval(s)
t
(1, 2, 3, 4)
I suppose that's the better solution in terms of safety.
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t;function object" -- and lose the possibility to completely
change the function object in place.
Exactly. Except __globals__ we are all set and I think that'll work for
us. I will report once we've implemented it that way.
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and extended this to context managers for other purposes. Maybe, it can
be useful to other Python devs as well. :-)
Let me know if you need help with it.
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On 21.03.2016 21:42, Matt Wheeler wrote:
On 20 March 2016 at 16:46, Sven R. Kunze wrote:
On 19.03.2016 00:58, Matt Wheeler wrote:
I know you have a working solution now with updating the code &
defaults of the function, but what about just injecting your function
into the modules that
;d end up having to do it to lots of modules...
Why do you consider it cleaner?
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On 16.03.2016 16:02, Tim Chase wrote:
On 2016-03-16 15:29, Sven R. Kunze wrote:
I would re-use the "for-else" for this. Everything I thought I
could make use of the "-else" clause, I was disappointed I couldn't.
Hmm...this must be a mind-set thing. I use the "els
quite regularly could find this
useful within the logic part (the actions) of our applications.
Do you think this would be worth posting on python-ideas?
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onsidering that Django provides an {% url %} template tag which would
then use yet another reverse implementation.
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ch. Thanks. :-)
Although, I for one would like a keyword. I remember having this issue
myself, and found that the "empty" variable approach is more like a
pattern. As usual, patterns are workarounds for features that a language
misses.
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On 18.03.2016 20:10, Palpandi wrote:
You can do like this.
if not my_iterable:
for x in my_iterable:
Thanks for you help here, however as already pointed out, my_iterable is
not necessarily a list but more likely an exhaustible iterator/generator.
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ke use of the "-else" clause, I was disappointed I couldn't.
I find the addition to for-loop as useful as we already have a quite
complex try-except-else-finally clause. I don't know why for-loops
couldn't benefit from this as well.
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w function that uses the same code but with
different defaults or globals.
It occurred to me after I sent that email.
However, changing globals is not possible.
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On 16.03.2016 19:53, Ben Finney wrote:
Do you think some better error message should be used?
Yes, I think that error message needs to be improved. Please file a bug
report in Python's issue tracker https://bugs.python.org/>.
For example a hint that "0" does work for the given argument.
I sug
7;s
__globals__ with your own as well.
Thanks again. :-)
Again, why would it make sense for those dunder attributes to be part of
the function but not of the code object?
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On 16.03.2016 17:37, Random832 wrote:
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016, at 11:17, Sven R. Kunze wrote:
I can imagine that. Could you describe the general use-case? From what I
know, "else" is executed when you don't "break" the loop. When is this
useful?
for item in col
the first loop.
I think I can imagine where this is coming from but this was not the
initial use-case. I think Tim's answer (count approach) would provide a
solution for this (from my point of view) rather rare use-case.
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On 16.03.2016 15:29, Sven R. Kunze wrote:
On 16.03.2016 13:57, Peter Otten wrote:
I'd put that the other way round: syntactical support for every pattern
would make for a rather unwieldy language. You have to choose
carefully, and
this requirement could easily be fulfilled by a fun
meant. Thanks. :)
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o_something(x)
if empty:
something_else()
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On 16.03.2016 17:20, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 3/16/2016 11:17 AM, Sven R. Kunze wrote:
On 16.03.2016 16:02, Tim Chase wrote:
Does it annoy me when I have to work in other languages that lack
Python's {for/while}/else functionality? You bet.
I can imagine that. Could you describ
On 16.03.2016 17:56, Sven R. Kunze wrote:
On 16.03.2016 17:37, Random832 wrote:
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016, at 11:17, Sven R. Kunze wrote:
I can imagine that. Could you describe the general use-case? From
what I
know, "else" is executed when you don't "break" the loop. W
On 18.03.2016 15:33, Sven R. Kunze wrote:
On 18.03.2016 15:23, Ian Kelly wrote:
On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 7:47 AM, Ian Kelly
wrote:
Your patched version takes two extra arguments. Did you add the
defaults for those to the function's __defaults__ attribute?
And as an afterthought, you'
for...else to work right and I didn't
understand why until finally the penny dropped and realised that "else"
should be called "then".
That's actually a fine idea. One could even say: "finally".
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On 16.03.2016 16:09, Joel Goldstick wrote:
symbol '|' in python. Can you elaborate
bitwise or
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prefix=None, current_app=None, get=None, fragment=None):
def reverse(viewname, urlconf=None, args=None, kwargs=None, prefix=None,
current_app=None):
Some ideas?
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tored.
It's furthermore too large to fit into memory completely.
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Hi,
a colleague of mine (I write this mail because I am on the list) has the
following issue:
for x in my_iterable:
# do
empty:
# do something else
What's the most Pythonic way of doing this?
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e doc string of a function basically is the help string which is true
for arguments as well.
I hope that helps even though you asked for argparse explicitly. :-)
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On 09.03.2016 19:19, Sven R. Kunze wrote:
ps: there are two error's when i ran tests with test_xheap.
Damn. I see this is Python 2 and Python 3 related. Thanks for bringing
this to my attention. I am going to fix this soon.
Fixed.
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On 06.03.2016 14:59, Sven R. Kunze wrote:
Using the original xheap benchmark
<http://srkunze.blogspot.de/2016/02/the-xheap-benchmark.html>, I could
see huge speedups: from 50x/25x down to 3x/2x compared to heapq.
That's a massive improvement. I will publish an update soon.
An
.80x) 4.41 (
0.78x) 43.86 ( 0.77x)')
So as the results are not much effected apart of __init__, i think you
should consider this.
Looks promising. I will
some unittests and
I love SHORT oneliners:
for c in reversed(zip(ascii_lowercase, ascii_uppercase)):
...
ooops. :-/
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On 06.03.2016 19:53, Peter Otten wrote:
Sven R. Kunze wrote:
what's the reason that reversed(zip(...)) raises as a TypeError?
Would allowing reversed to handle zip and related functions lead to
strange errors?
In Python 3 zip() can deal with infinite iterables -- what would you expect
Hi,
what's the reason that reversed(zip(...)) raises as a TypeError?
Would allowing reversed to handle zip and related functions lead to
strange errors?
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see huge speedups: from 50x/25x down to 3x/2x compared to heapq. That's
a massive improvement. I will publish an update soon.
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On 01.03.2016 13:13, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 09:38 am, Larry Martell wrote:
But what is reality?
Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.
Just like that.
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ecause almost
everybody is able to see them and can start having an opinion about them:
Who loves the new Windows modern UI? Either you like it or you hate it.
What about the Riemann zeta function? Anybody?
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PS: another thought.
I recently introduced LaTeX to my girlfriend. LaTeX is
tions out there.
Propose that on the tracker, after checking previous issues.
:)
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On 27.02.2016 00:07, eryk sun wrote:
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 4:08 PM, Sven R. Kunze wrote:
Python sometimes seems not to hop back and forth between C and Python code.
Can somebody explain this?
Normally a C extension would call PySequence_SetItem, which would call
the type's sq_ass
On 26.02.2016 23:37, Ian Kelly wrote:
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Sven R. Kunze wrote:
Python sometimes seems not to hop back and forth between C and Python code.
C code as a rule tends to ignore dunder methods. Those are used to
implement Python operations, not C operations.
Ah, good
p
def my_heappop(heap):
lastelt = heap.pop()
if heap:
returnitem = heap[0]
heap[0] = lastelt
_siftup(heap, 0)# that's C
return returnitem
return lastelt
ml = MyList(range(10))
my_heappop(ml)
print(ml.count) # print 6
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Some even suggested putting the table into the Python docs. I am unaware
of the formal procedure here but I would be glad if somebody could point
be at the right direction if that the survey table is wanted in the docs.
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hat that is.
You could wrap up the boilerplate in Python if you like:
def get(coro, loop=None):
if loop is None:
loop = asyncio.get_event_loop()
return loop.run_until_complete(coro)
print(get(tcp_reader(1000)))
As usual. :)
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On 23.02.2016 01:48, Ian Kelly wrote:
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Sven R. Kunze wrote:
Is something like shown in 12:50 ( cout << tcp_reader(1000).get() ) possible
with asyncio? (tcp_reader would be async def)
loop = asyncio.get_event_loop()
print(loop.run_until_complete(tcp_reade
ync def)
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icial infrastructure (tools,
classes, ... such as there is for unittests) around timeit to
encapsulate benchmarks, choosing a baseline, calculate ratios etc (and
write code instead of strings).
Does somebody have an idea here?
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e learning curve because it uses iterators in places
where py2 uses lists. That's a significant new concept and it can be
bug-prone even for programmers who are experienced with it.
That is indeed very true.
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On 16.02.2016 14:05, Sven R. Kunze wrote:
Hi Srinivas,
I think the tuple assignment you showed basically nails it.
First, the rhs is evaluated.
Second, the lhs is evaluated from left to right.
Completely wrong?
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As you mentioned swapping. The following two statements do the same
rms a swap operation???
I just want to get a better idea around this.
I think the tuple assignment you showed basically nails it.
First, the rhs is evaluated.
Second, the lhs is evaluated from left to right.
Completely wrong?
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. Would you accept a solution that would involve wrapping the
function in another object carrying the priority? Would you prefer a
wrapper that's defined by xheap itself so you can just use it?
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er fall victim to
the cascading async/await.
And if you did that, why bother sprinkling async's and await's
everywhere? Why not make every single function call an await implicitly
and every single subroutine an async? In fact, that's how everything
works in multithreading: blockin
r i in range(n)]
random.shuffle(items)
heap = RemovalHeap(items)
random.shuffle(items)
for i in items:
heap.remove(i)
print(X.c)
X.c = 0
(note to myself: never copy PyCharm formatting strings to this list).
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Hi srinivas,
do better here?
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On 05.02.2016 15:48, Bernardo Sulzbach wrote:
On 02/05/2016 12:42 PM, Sven R. Kunze wrote:
PS: I do competitive programming, I use these modules every couple of
days
when compared to other modules. so didn't give much thought when
posting to
the mailing list. sorry for that.
Compet
#x27;t give much thought when posting to
the mailing list. sorry for that.
Competitive programming? That sounds interesting. :)
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On 05.02.2016 01:12, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 07:50 am, srinivas devaki wrote:
_siftdown function breaks out of the loop when the current pos has a valid
parent.
but _siftup function is not implemented in that fashion, if a valid
subheap is given to the _siftup, it will bring
On 04.02.2016 19:35, Random832 wrote:
On Thu, Feb 4, 2016, at 11:18, Sven R. Kunze wrote:
On 04.02.2016 00:47, Random832 wrote:
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016, at 16:43, Sven R. Kunze wrote:
Actually a nice idea if there were no overhead of creating methods for
all heap instances separately. I'll
On 04.02.2016 00:47, Random832 wrote:
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016, at 16:43, Sven R. Kunze wrote:
Actually a nice idea if there were no overhead of creating methods for
all heap instances separately. I'll keep that in mind. :)
What about changing the class of the object to one which is inherited
On 03.02.2016 22:34, Bernardo Sulzbach wrote:
Did Peter's suggestion work?
Somewhat for a single Heap class.
However, it breaks inheritance.
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On 03.02.2016 22:19, Peter Otten wrote:
You could try putting
self.heappush = functools.partial(heapq.heappush, self)
into the initializer.
Actually a nice idea if there were no overhead of creating methods for
all heap instances separately. I'll keep that in mind. :)
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When you call x.replace(2) you are calling heapreplace(2), NOT
heapreplace(self, 2).
It is exactly as you've described it.
Question now is how can I circumvent/shortcut that? There are several
proposals out there in the Web but none of them works. :-/
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ethod when the
function I am wrapping actually already has the same signature?
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ethod from a function like I aliased
replace with poppush?
If I am not completely mistaken, it saves 1 stack frame, right?
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On 02.02.2016 01:48, srinivas devaki wrote:
On Feb 1, 2016 10:54 PM, "Sven R. Kunze" <mailto:srku...@mail.de>> wrote:
>
> Maybe I didn't express myself well. Would you prefer the sweeping
approach in terms of efficiency over how I implemented xheap currently?
&g
On 31.01.2016 02:48, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sunday 31 January 2016 09:47, Sven R. Kunze wrote:
@all
What's the best/standardized tool in Python to perform benchmarking?
timeit
Thanks, Steven.
Maybe, I am doing it wrong but I get some weird results:
>>> min(timeit.Ti
On 31.01.2016 05:59, srinivas devaki wrote:
@Sven
actually you are not sweeping at all, as i remember from my last post
what i meant by sweeping is periodically deleting the elements which
were marked as popped items.
Exactly.
Maybe I didn't express myself well. Would you prefer the swe
s the best/standardized tool in Python to perform benchmarking?
Right now, I use a self-made combo of unittest.TestCase and time.time +
proper formatting.
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PS: fixing some weird typos and added missing part.
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l for your feedback as you have first-hand
experience with heaps.
@srinivas
You might want to have a look at the removal implementation. Do you
think it would be wiser/faster to switch for the sweeping approach?
I plan to publish some benchmarks to compare heapq and xheap.
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On 29.01.2016 23:49, Ben Finney wrote:
"Sven R. Kunze" writes:
On 29.01.2016 01:01, Fillmore wrote:
How was the Python 2.7 vs Python 3.X solved? which version should I
go for?
Python 3 is the new and better one.
More importantly: Python 2 will never improve; Python 3 is the onl
e aware of?
Don't worry. Just try it out. :)
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Hi Gert,
just upgrade to 5.03.
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On 13.01.2016 18:38, Gert Förster wrote:
Ladies, Gentlemen,
using the PyCharm Community Edition 4.5.4, with Python-3-5-1-amd64.exe,
there is constantly a “Repair”-demand. This is “successful” when executed.
Without execution, there results an “Error
On 13.01.2016 12:20, Cem Karan wrote:
On Jan 12, 2016, at 11:18 AM, "Sven R. Kunze" wrote:
Thanks for replying here. I've come across these types of
wrappers/re-implementations of heapq as well when researching this issue. :)
Unfortunately, they don't solve the unde
ex" and be efficient at it (by
not using _heapq C implementation).
So, I thought I did another wrapper. ;) It at least uses _heapq (if
available otherwise heapq) and lets you remove items without violating
the invariant in O(log n). I am going to make that open-source on pypi
and see what p
On 09.01.2016 19:32, Paul Rubin wrote:
"Sven R. Kunze" writes:
Basically a task scheduler where tasks can be thrown away once they
are too long in the queue.
I don't think there's a real nice way to do this with heapq. The
computer-sciencey way would involve separate bala
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