RE: [Python-ideas] Proposal: Query language extension to Python (PythonQL)

2017-03-26 Thread Gerald Britton
(Forgot the subject) > >* On 25 Mar 2017, at 15:51, Gerald Britton ><https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas>> wrote: > *> >* On 25 March 2017 at 11:24, Pavel Velikhov <http://gmail.com> <http://gmail.com/ <http://gmail.com/>>> wrot

What are your opinions on .NET Core vs Python?

2017-01-30 Thread Gerald Britton
on, which is implemented in .NET, has no GIL and doesn't need it since ir runs on the CLR. That means that, for some things, IronPython can be more performant. No word yet if the IronPython project intends to port to .NET core or enable to run it on OS's other than Windows. Also, it&

Fwd: What are your opinions on .NET Core vs Python?

2017-01-29 Thread Gerald Britton
> > As you guys might know, .NET Core is up and running, promising a > "cross-platform, unified, fast, lightweight, modern and open source > experience" (source: .NET Core official site). What do you guys think about > it? Do you think it will be able to compete with and overcome Python in the > op

Re: Question about abstract base classes and abstract properties -- Python 2.7

2017-01-10 Thread Gerald Britton
I was rereading the 2.7 docs about abstract base classes the other day. I found this line in the usage section of the abc.abstractproperty function: "This defines a read-only property; you can also define a read-write abstract property using the ‘long’ form of property declaration:" along with

Question about abstract base classes and abstract properties -- Python 2.7

2016-10-22 Thread Gerald Britton
ng write property implementation (otherwise, what's the point of the example?) Is this a doc bug, an ABC bug or just me? (I've been known to be buggy from time to time!) -- Gerald Britton -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

RE: How to reduce the DRY violation in this code

2016-09-27 Thread Gerald Britton
ppy=50, sleepy=60, sneezy=70): > # the usual assign arguments to attributes dance... > self.bashful = bashful > self.doc = doc > # etc. This looks like a situation where the GoF Builder pattern might help -- Gerald Britton, MCSE-DP, MVP LinkedIn Profile: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/g

RE: Any ReST aware editors?

2016-09-22 Thread Gerald Britton
type. (Or at least, updated every thirty seconds or so.) Anybody know > anything like that? Visual Studio Code does an OK job with the reStructuredText Language Support for Visual Studio Code Extension -- Gerald Britton, MCSE-DP, MVP LinkedIn Profile: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/geraldbritton --

Question about abstract base classes and abstract properties -- Python 2.7

2016-09-04 Thread Gerald Britton
just me? (I've been known to be buggy from time to time!) -- Gerald Britton, MCSE-DP, MVP LinkedIn Profile: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/geraldbritton -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Learning Descriptors

2016-07-31 Thread Gerald Britton
>On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 6:33 AM, Gerald Britton > wrote: >> Today, I was reading RH's Descriptor HowTo Guide at >> >> https://docs.python.org/3/howto/descriptor.html?highlight=descriptors >> >> I just really want to fully "get" this. >> >

Learning Descriptors

2016-07-31 Thread Gerald Britton
Today, I was reading RH's Descriptor HowTo Guide at https://docs.python.org/3/howto/descriptor.html?highlight=descriptors I just really want to fully "get" this. So I put together a little test from scratch. Looks like this: class The: class Answer: def __get__(self, obj, type=None

re: Operator Precedence/Boolean Logic

2016-07-16 Thread Gerald Britton
<https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2016-July/thread.html#711777> [ subject ] <https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2016-July/subject.html#711777> [ author ] <https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2016-July/author.html#711777> ---

Package setup best practice style question

2016-05-28 Thread Gerald Britton
that would indicate to prefer method 1 or method 2? Are there methods 3, 4, 5, ... that I should consider that are even better? -- Gerald Britton, MCSE-DP, MVP LinkedIn Profile: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/geraldbritton -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Question about imports and packages

2016-05-24 Thread Gerald Britton
On Wed, 25 May 2016 10:00 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >On Wed, 25 May 2016 09:35 am, Gerald Britton wrote: > >For brevity, here's your package setup: > > >testpkg/ >+-- __init__.py >+-- testimport.py which runs "from testpkg.testimported import A" >

Question about imports and packages

2016-05-24 Thread Gerald Britton
t call last): File "testimport.py", line 1, in from testpkg.testimported import A ImportError: No module named testpkg.testimported However, I thought I was doing what the doc describes for intra package imports. What am I missing? Or is the problem simply that I do not have subpackages?

RE: Please critique my script

2011-07-14 Thread Gerald Britton
el + '\n' + "description *** local outbound dialpeer ***" + '\n' + destpatt + '\n' + "port " + p + '\n' "forward-digits 7" if line[0:3] == y and q == "y" else "&

Re: Namespaces in functions vs classes

2011-04-19 Thread Gerald Britton
>Gerald Britton wrote: >> I now understand the Python does >> not consider a class definition as a separate namespace as it does for >> function definitions. That is a helpful understanding. >That is not correct. Classes are separate namespaces -- they just >aren

Re: Namespaces in functions vs classes

2011-04-19 Thread Gerald Britton
ses the global definition of "meat". The class attribute "meat" is not seen by the serve method unless it is qualified. I now understand the Python does not consider a class definition as a separate namespace as it does for function definitions. That is a helpful understanding. Anyway, thanks for jumping in to the discussion. -- Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Namespaces in functions vs classes

2011-04-17 Thread Gerald Britton
quot; to my use of "foo" >>> class a(): ... foo = 'foo' ... def g(x): ... return a.foo ... >>> x = a() >>> x.g() 'foo' So, this works and I can use it. However, I would like a deeper understanding of why I cannot use "foo" as an unqualified variable inside the method in the class. If Python allowed such a thing, what problems would that cause? -- Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

value of pi and 22/7

2011-03-20 Thread Gerald Britton
horsepower and the size of sys.maxint on your machine, this may take a few *days* to run. Note: The sum in the Python expression above runs in reverse to minimize rounding errors. -- Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Compile time evaluation of dictionaries

2011-03-14 Thread Gerald Britton
d obviate any such concern. >3/ it would make the implementation more complex (i.e. more work for our >beloved active community) for no gain See my reply to 1/ above. >4/ you can write C code to speed up things: >http://docs.python.org/extending/extending.html, when really needed. How do you spell red herring? -- Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Compile time evaluation of dictionaries

2011-03-10 Thread Gerald Britton
    19 STORE_MAP             20 BINARY_MODULO             21 POP_TOP             22 LOAD_CONST               5 (None)             25 RETURN_VALUE >>> Any idea why Python works this way?  I see that, in 3.2, an optimization was done for sets (See "Optimizations" at http://docs.python.org/py3k/whatsnew/3.2.html) though I do not see anything similar for dictionaries. -- Gerald Britton -- Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Python 3.2 and html.escape function

2011-02-20 Thread Gerald Britton
&& x < 7') 'x > 2 && x < 7' -- Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Python 3.2 and html.escape function

2011-02-20 Thread Gerald Britton
I see that Python 3.2 includes a new module -- html -- with a single function -- escape. I would like to know how this function differs from xml.sax.saxutils.escape and, if there is no difference (or only a minor one), what the need is for this new module and its lone function -- Gerald Britton

Map vs. List Comprehensions (was "lint warnings")

2011-02-15 Thread Gerald Britton
gt; Timer('map(g, s)', 'from __main__ import s, g').timeit() 1.8645310401916504 >>> Timer('[x.__class__ for x in s]', 'from __main__ import s').timeit() 1.7232599258422852 >>> Timer('map(a, s)', 'from __main__ import s, a').timeit() 2.4131419658660889 >>> So, what's the feeling out there? Go with map and the operators or stick with the list comps? -- Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

lint warnings

2011-02-15 Thread Gerald Britton
0 loops, best of 3: 879 usec per loop granted, but not on topic here. we're talking about map vs list comps when you want to use a function. >map is only likely to be faster if you wanted to call a function in both cases. Which is exactly the point. >f you have an expression that can be inlined you save the function call >overhead with the list comprehension. Of course, but that's not the point. -- Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

lint warnings

2011-02-15 Thread Gerald Britton
ter. BTW, if you like: [item for item in iterable if predicate(item)] you can use: filter(predicate, item) I find the latter neater for the same reasons as above -- Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

How can I print a traceback without raising an exception?

2011-02-13 Thread Gerald Britton
ack (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in File "", line 2, in f File "", line 2, in g File "", line 2, in h Exception >>> -- Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How can I tell if I am inside a context manager?

2011-02-01 Thread Gerald Britton
ss of how it was created. Whatever the test, it needs to return False in the first case and True in the second case, without modifying the class definition. Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

How can I tell if I am inside a context manager?

2011-02-01 Thread Gerald Britton
On Dienstag 01 Februar 2011, Gerald Britton wrote: > I'd like to know how (perhaps with the inspect module) I can > tell if I am running in a context manager. >>class f(object): >> def __init__(self): >> self.inContext = False >>def __enter__(sel

How can I tell if I am inside a context manager?

2011-02-01 Thread Gerald Britton
ot in a context manager on f: with h as f(): # insert code here to return True, since I am in a context manager on f: -- Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Style question: Nicknames for deeply nested objects

2011-01-30 Thread Gerald Britton
roach 2 sets up loop machinery which you don't really need in this case. I have a couple of questions: 1. If you had to choose between approaches 1 and 2, which one would you go for, and why? 2. What other techniques have you used in such a situation? -- Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Slice lists and extended slicing

2011-01-26 Thread Gerald Britton
ld do this: >>> l = [1,2,3,4,5] >>> l[0:1, 3:4] Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in TypeError: list indices must be integers, not tuple but that clearly doesn't work! So, when and how can one use slice lists? -- Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

PEP8, line continuations and string formatting operations

2011-01-21 Thread Gerald Britton
;s the general feeling about this? Adhere to the PEP 8 binary operators style, or modify it for string formatting? -- Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

RE: Code review request

2010-12-22 Thread Gerald Britton
ng (the trailing comma suppresses the new line) and you'll never have to count the number of items in lst. You also have some statements like: sqlchk = "select * from employees where id = \"%s\"" % (arg) Since a Python list can be enclosed in apostrophes as well as quotations, you can get the same thing without the escapes: sqlchk = 'select * from employees where id = "%s"' % (arg) Anyway -- just some food for thought. -- Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

RE: PEP8 compliance and exception messages ?

2010-12-08 Thread Gerald Britton
e 3, in Exception: Long exception text Then, you can indent the individual lines any way you like. -- Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Style question for conditional execution

2010-11-24 Thread Gerald Britton
Have you used the second approach and, if so, what was your motivation? Is there a good/bad reason to choose one over the other? -- Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: "if {negative}" vs. "if {positive}" style

2010-02-10 Thread Gerald Britton
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > Something similar in a for-loop: for x in y: if not should_process(x): continue # process x -- Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Checking the coding style

2010-02-07 Thread Gerald Britton
tandards > > -- > Pablo Recio Quijano > > Estudiante de Ingeniería Informática (UCA) > Alumno colaborador del Departamento de Lenguajes y Sistemas Informáticos > Participante del IV Concurso Universitario de Software Libre > > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listin

Re: Exception class documentation

2010-02-06 Thread Gerald Britton
If you browse the Python source tree, you should be able to find it. http://svn.python.org/view/python/trunk/Objects/exceptions.c?revision=77045&view=markup On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Charles Yeomans wrote: > > On Feb 5, 2010, at 2:13 PM, Gerald Britton wrote: > >> On

Re: Last M digits of expression A^N

2010-02-05 Thread Gerald Britton
;    return ret > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > http://docs.python.org/3.1/library/decimal.html#decimal.Context.power -- Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: method names nounVerb or verbNoun

2010-02-05 Thread Gerald Britton
names should be lowercase, with words separated by underscores as necessary to improve readability. mixedCase is allowed only in contexts where that's already the prevailing style (e.g. threading.py), to retain backwards compatibility. -- Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Exception class documentation

2010-02-05 Thread Gerald Britton
'd','e') Exception('a', 'b', 'c', 'd', 'e') >>> Exception(Exception(1)) Exception(Exception(1,),) -- Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Editor for Python

2010-02-05 Thread Gerald Britton
ecker or pylint though I believe that its not too difficult. Who knows? Perhaps someone already has such a plugin that you can use. -- Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: which

2010-02-05 Thread Gerald Britton
if-then-else machinery, making it easier (for me) > to read. But there was considerable resistance to spending so much vertical > space in the source code. Weird! It's three lines and the original was four lines was it not>? -- Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: list.extend([]) Question

2010-02-05 Thread Gerald Britton
t in ['a'], not None. > > http://www.python.org/doc/faq/general/#why-doesn-t-list-sort-return-the-sorted-list > -- > Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com)           <*>         http://www.pythoncraft.com/ > > import antigravity > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > -- Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: which

2010-02-05 Thread Gerald Britton
hough I might consider removing the outer parentheses. -- Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: exec within function

2010-02-03 Thread Gerald Britton
tracebacks** when asking a > question like this. (The only exception would be if it is v e r y long, as > with hitting the recursion depth limit of 1000.) > > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > -- Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Trouble with os.system

2010-02-03 Thread Gerald Britton
,re,os > files2create = sys.argv[1:] > os.system('mkdir tmp') > > # Some code to create the .tex > > # Compile tex files > os.system('for file in tmp/*; do pdflatex "$file"; done') > > Pretty simple, alas. > > -- > Cpa > > > O

Re: Trouble with os.system

2010-02-03 Thread Gerald Britton
cted some kind of escaping issue, but it won't even work with > files such as : foo.txt, bar.txt. > > Any idea ? > Thanks, > Cpa > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > -- Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: lists as an efficient implementation of large two-dimensional arrays(!)

2010-02-02 Thread Gerald Britton
d > many factors affecting it, including patterns of use. I just wanted to > demonstrate the basics for a situation that I just encountered. In > particular, if the array was sparse, rather than completely full, the > two-level dictionary implementation would be the natural representation. > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > -- Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Iterating over a function call

2010-02-02 Thread Gerald Britton
it > buggy. Quite so. I just like to eliminate the possibility up front. If 'value' is never bound, the the bug will show up sooner. -- Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Adding methods from one class to another, dynamically

2010-02-01 Thread Gerald Britton
med by the string in the variable > `name`. > You want setattr(): http://docs.python.org/library/functions.html#setattr > Assuming the rest of your code chunk is correct: > > setattr(tee, name, new.instancemethod(func,None,tee)) > > Cheers, > Chris > -- > http://blog.rebertia.com > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > -- Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Iterating over a function call

2010-02-01 Thread Gerald Britton
st calls deque anyway when you want to eat up the rest of the iterable. It also solves the iterator-variable leakage problem and is only a wee bit slower than a conventional for-loop. > > -- > Arnaud > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > -- Gerald Bri

Iterating over a function call

2010-02-01 Thread Gerald Britton
any interest in an apply() built-in function that would work like map() does in 2.x (calls the function with each value returned by the iterator) but return nothing. Maybe "apply" isn't the best name; it's just the first one that occurred to me. Or is this just silly and should

Re: Performance of lists vs. list comprehensions

2010-01-19 Thread Gerald Britton
n Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Arnaud Delobelle wrote: > Gerald Britton writes: > >> [snip] >> >>> >>> Yes, list building from a generator expression *is* expensive. And >>> join has to do it, because it has to iterate twice over the iterable >>&

Re: Performance of lists vs. list comprehensions

2010-01-19 Thread Gerald Britton
s as you say then join would have to copy the iterable on the first pass, effectively turning it into a list. Though I didn't read through it, I would suppose that join could use a dynamic-table approach to hold the result, starting with some guesstimate then expanding the result buffer

Re: Create list/dict from string

2010-01-19 Thread Gerald Britton
_name": "action_1", "val": "asdf", "val2": > "asdf"}] > > And have this create a list/dict.  I'm aware of pickle, but it won't > work as far as I can tell. > > Thanks. > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > -- Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Performance of lists vs. list comprehensions

2010-01-19 Thread Gerald Britton
em in the generator expression. That in itself probably accounts for the differences since function calls are somewhat expensive IIRC. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Stephen Hansen wrote: > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:30 AM, Gerald Britton > wrote: > [snip] >> >> mystring = &

Re: Performance of lists vs. list comprehensions

2010-01-19 Thread Gerald Britton
Thanks! Good explanation. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Alf P. Steinbach wrote: > * Gerald Britton: >> >> Yesterday I stumbled across some old code in a project I was working >> on.  It does something like this: >> >> mystring = '\n'.join( [ li

Performance of lists vs. list comprehensions

2010-01-19 Thread Gerald Britton
on would prove more efficient. There doesn't appear to be one. I scaled the length of the input list up to 1 million items and got more or less the same relative performance. Now I'm really curious and I'd like to know: 1. Can anyone else confirm this observation? 2. Why should the "pure" list comprehension be slower than the same comprehension enclosed in '[...]' ? -- Gerald Britton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

is None vs. == None

2009-01-23 Thread Gerald Britton
Hi -- Some time ago I ran across a comment recommending using is None instead of == None (also is not None, etc.) My own testing indicates that the former beats the latter by about 30% on average. Not a log for a single instruction but it can add up in large projects. I'm looking for a (semi)

Re: Lazy List Generator Problem

2009-01-16 Thread Gerald Britton
For those interested in the Sieve of Eratosthenes, have a look at: http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~oneill/papers/Sieve-JFP.pdf The examples in the paper are in Haskell, but I have been corresponding with the author who provided this Python version: def sieve(): innersieve = sieve() prevsquare = 1