Re: Python on the Web

2009-09-02 Thread Ed Singleton
On Aug 26, 4:17 am, alex23 wrote: > Frameworks created for the sake of creating a framework, as opposed to > those written to meet a defined need, tend to be the worst examples of > masturbatory coding. Indeed, but masturbation is perfectly healthy and acceptable, and we all do it every now and t

Re: How best to test functions which use date.today

2009-03-03 Thread Ed Singleton
On Feb 28, 5:54 pm, Lie Ryan wrote: > Yuan HOng wrote: > > HI, > > > In my project I have several date related methods which I want tested for > > correctness. The functions use date.today() in several places. Since this > > could change every time I run the test, I hope to find someway to fake a

Re: Tabs versus Spaces in Source Code

2006-05-16 Thread Ed Singleton
On 5/15/06, Brian Quinlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The problem with tabs is that people use tabs for alignment e.g. > > def foo(): >->query = """SELECT * >-> -> -> FROM sometable >-> -> -> WHERE condition""" > > Now I change my editor to use 8-space tabs and the code is all

Re: recursion and linked lists

2006-04-07 Thread Ed Singleton
On 01/04/06, John Salerno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I V wrote: > > > > Note that print gets called after _each_ time that printBackward > > returns. So, as the different calls to printBackward return, they print > > whatever 'head' was set to in that invocation. Now, logically enough, > > the la

Re: Doc suggestions

2006-04-05 Thread Ed Singleton
On 4 Apr 2006 15:18:27 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > Here is a 3' view. I posted about a clear > > (admittedly very minor) doc problem 8 days ago. > > Since then there have been 30+ postings in this > > thread. Insults and bad f

Re: Doc suggestions (was: Why "class exceptions" are not deprecated?)

2006-03-31 Thread Ed Singleton
On 30 Mar 2006 16:30:24 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Fredrik Lundh" wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote > > > write a tutorial as good as what is already there. But what I can > > > do is report problems I find when using it, and make suggestions > > > about how to avoid

Re: Doc suggestions (was: Why "class exceptions" are not deprecated?)

2006-03-29 Thread Ed Singleton
On 29/03/06, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ed Singleton wrote: > > > > alright, I got bored and uploaded a copy of the current Python tutorial to > > > > > > http://pytut.infogami.com > > > > Damn. You beat me to it by an hou

Re: Doc suggestions (was: Why "class exceptions" are not deprecated?)

2006-03-29 Thread Ed Singleton
On 29/03/06, Ed Singleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 29/03/06, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > btw, one alternative could be to use an infogame site for this purpose: > > > > > >http://infogami.com > > > > > > thi

Re: Doc suggestions (was: Why "class exceptions" are not deprecated?)

2006-03-29 Thread Ed Singleton
On 29/03/06, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > btw, one alternative could be to use an infogame site for this purpose: > > > >http://infogami.com > > > > this gives you revision history, a permissions system (limiting editing to > > registered users might be a good idea), comments, a

Re: Doc suggestions (was: Why "class exceptions" are not deprecated?)

2006-03-29 Thread Ed Singleton
On 29/03/06, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote > > write a tutorial as good as what is already there. But what I can > > do is report problems I find when using it, and make suggestions > > about how to avoid those problems. > > There's no shortage of ideas -- nor

Re: [CODE] - Python Newcomer Starting with Coding

2006-03-21 Thread Ed Singleton
On 21/03/06, Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Where can I find practical coding examples for real life coding problems? > > Something like a categorized solution guide? > This sounds quite a lot like PLEAC. It certainly contains a lot that you would find useful. http://pleac.sourcefo

Re: Rethinking the Python tutorial

2006-02-10 Thread Ed Singleton
On 09/02/06, Magnus Lycka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While the official Python Tutorial has served its > purpose well, keeping it up to date is hardly anyones > top priority, and there are others who passionately > create really good Python tutorials on the web. > > I think 'A Byte of Python' by

Re: random playing soundfiles according to rating.

2006-02-10 Thread Ed Singleton
On 8 Feb 2006 19:49:09 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am a little bit stuck > > I want to play a bunch of soundfiles randomly, but i want to give each > soundfile a rating (say 0-100) and have the likelihood that the file be > chosen be tied to its rating so that the

Re: Question about idioms for clearing a list

2006-02-08 Thread Ed Singleton
On 08/02/06, Magnus Lycka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ed Singleton wrote: > > Is it obvious to a newbie what the difference between mappings and > > "not-mappings", and is it obvious exactly what is and isn't a mapping? > > > > Should it be necessar

Re: Question about idioms for clearing a list

2006-02-08 Thread Ed Singleton
On 08/02/06, Magnus Lycka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ed Singleton wrote: > > I'm a fairly average programmer (better than average compared to my > > immediate colleagues). I've read every tutorial I can get my hands > > on, but I have no _memory_ of ev

Re: Question about idioms for clearing a list

2006-02-07 Thread Ed Singleton
On 07/02/06, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ed Singleton wrote > > > I'm not mud-slinging, I'm just saying that people are very dismissive > > of making the language easier to use for newbies. > > no, you're telling people who have long

Re: Question about idioms for clearing a list

2006-02-07 Thread Ed Singleton
On 7 Feb 2006 07:08:17 -0800, Raymond Hettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As a general rule of thumb, I would say that if a person is struggling > > with a language, it is primarily a problem with the language, and than > > problem with the documentation, and lastly a problem with the person.

Re: Question about idioms for clearing a list

2006-02-07 Thread Ed Singleton
On 07/02/06, Raymond Hettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Again we unfortunately have a bit of an attitude problem > > > towards anyone posting here that doesn't know whatever the experts > > > think is obvious. > > > > I agree wholeheartedly with this, particularly as there often seems to > >

Re: Question about idioms for clearing a list

2006-02-07 Thread Ed Singleton
On 07/02/06, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bryan Olson wrote: > > > So is consistency; it ain't Perl, thank Guido. > > consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds. > > > Python now has, what, three built-in mutable collections types: > > lists, dictionaries, and sets. Dicts and sets b

Re: Question about idioms for clearing a list

2006-02-07 Thread Ed Singleton
On 7 Feb 2006 02:02:42 -0800, Ben Sizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Fred is exactly correct. Slicing is absolutely basic to Python. > > Accordingly, it gets covered right at the beginning of the tutorial > > (section 3.1). > > Yes, right after UTF encoding details, complex numbers, and various

Re: Question about idioms for clearing a list

2006-02-07 Thread Ed Singleton
On 7 Feb 2006 00:27:05 -0800, Raymond Hettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There was a pithy Tim Peters quotation to the effect that he was > unpersuaded by language proposals predicated on some hypothetical > average programmer not being smart enough to understand something that > the rest of u

Re: Help me in this please--is Python the answer?

2006-01-12 Thread Ed Singleton
On 11 Jan 2006 17:54:05 -0800, Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > I've got the chance to determine the technology to use in creating a > product similar to this: > > http://www.atomicisland.com/ > > Now the thing is that I need to sell this to the guy with the money. > I've developed for y

Re: Which Python web framework is most like Ruby on Rails?

2005-12-22 Thread Ed Singleton
On 22/12/05, A.M. Kuchling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 14:05:08 +, > Ed Singleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Yes; I've long worried about this, but have no idea how to fix the > >> problem. Python users large

Re: Which Python web framework is most like Ruby on Rails?

2005-12-22 Thread Ed Singleton
On 22/12/05, A.M. Kuchling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 20 Dec 2005 15:05:15 -0800, > Michael Tobis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Python people don't really think that way. As a community we really > > seem to inherit the open source dysfunction of trying harder to impress > > each othe

Re: General question about Python design goals

2005-12-01 Thread Ed Singleton
On 29/11/05, Christoph Zwerschke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fredrik Lundh wrote: > > on the other hand, it's also possible that there are perfectly usable ways > > to keep bikes and bike seats dry where Christoph works, but that he prefers > > not to use them because they're violating some design

Re: how to modify code while debugging it without having to stop and then restart debugger

2005-11-10 Thread Ed Singleton
I used Visual Basic a long time in the past and I know what you mean. The ability to step through code line by line was very useful in a language where you often didn't know what was happening. I particularly loved the ability to hover the mouse over any variable or expression and see the value a

Re: Python's website does a great disservice to the language

2005-11-02 Thread Ed Singleton
I think I'm going to back you up a little bit here. You've gone about this in a bit of a half-assed way (and pissed off a fair few people in the process) but you are right that the site needs a redesign. It uses tables for layout with inline styles and font tags and doesn't really use CSS. It ha

Re: Rename files with numbers

2005-11-01 Thread Ed Singleton
The best free app I've found for this is MusicBrainz [www.musicbrainz.com]. This has a huge database of obsessively correct details of albums which can be formatted in anyway you choose. It can automatically recognise which song an MP3 is! This is a similar script I wrote to renumber files in se